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18 months by Sophie Ficklepetch - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 02:36:16 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've officially gone 18 months without ever fully clearing 3-meo-pcp from my system AMA
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Cedric Fesslespear - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:38:04 EST ID:4aXXP5FV No.362336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you like erect penises up your butt?
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Fuck Dandlesot - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:10:34 EST ID:GiEcjgH7 No.362338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i got psychosis from 2-3 months 3-meo-pcp abuse
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Betsy Grimbury - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:23:48 EST ID:8PBzsAHx No.362339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have you noticed any long term effects? Anything which can't be attributed to the high, I mean? Does discontinuing use result in withdrawal-like symptoms, and if so, would you say that these symptoms are due to the long half-life of its metabolites, or that you are genuinely withdrawing? Which ROA do you use?
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Sophie Merringnuck - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:50:02 EST ID:hXJjW59B No.362343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362338
How long did the psychosis last?
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Fuck Dandlesot - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:41:55 EST ID:GiEcjgH7 No.362344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362343

I'm not sure it's pretty blurry but I think I was ok after spending a few days in a psych ward. They gave me antipsychotics and benzos. I was on antipsychotics like 8 months afterwards which wasn't really necessary IMO but better safe than sorry.. I guess. I think I felt 100% fine within a few weeks, a month max.
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Cyril Sirringcocke - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:40:32 EST ID:3pde5DCb No.362346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362335


Does the mania wane with prolonged use?

The drive and motivation from the manic state is my main reason for using 3-MeO-PCP. So I'm just wondering if, after tolerance sets in, you still get that effect consistently?
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John Bunfield - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:56:31 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.362347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362346
LOL no it doesn't it only gets worse as you become less and less conscious of your actions and though process while high. All the while slowly creeping into a psychotic schizophrenic mindstate full of paranoia, confusion, and regret. (that is if you do something completely out of character/retarded in front of your family/friends/coworkers.
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Cyril Collerway - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:58:33 EST ID:lx7v3LTT No.362348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362347

This and while this is probably the best drug induced state I've ever felt it is only gonna get worse. It's insane that you won't even notice it yourself - you're going to get more and more manic and crazy everyday. It's fucking insane to think afterwards, you felt completely "normal" or at least didn't think you were doing anything wrong.
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Isabella Surringhall - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 09:29:50 EST ID:CzWGBOSc No.362359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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anyone ever tried microdosing 3-meo?
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Wesley Sizzleville - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:05:01 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.362370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362359
>>362359
What do you consider micro dosing? 5-10 mg doses are regular doses for someone without any tolerance. Measuring out 1-2 mg will be ridiculously tedious and not worth it imo.

At the height of my use I was dosing 15-25mg for a regular trip. 40-50 for a strong dose.
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Nicholas Heshsotch - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 03:13:45 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Do you like erect penises up your butt?
I haven't tried it but i don't think i would like it

>How long did the psychosis last?
i think i've only really experienced much psychosis when taking abnormally large doses

>Does the mania wane with prolonged use?
short-term no, but i got better at taking more reasonable doses at fairly consistent intervals, so
>wondering if, after tolerance sets in, you still get that effect consistently?
basically, yeah. i still have to be careful with doses though
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David Chapperham - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 23:18:31 EST ID:6CHLpupH No.362399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362343

What is this image from? Please tell me it's a video game, I want to play it.
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Isabella Snodson - Sun, 01 Jul 2018 23:48:16 EST ID:n5LC8Ndf No.362420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362335

Developing any psychic abilities? Telepathy, premonition, pk?

Have you noticed any paranormal or occult activity?
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Shit Honnerbanks - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 01:50:55 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362399
it looks like a video game but why does that image make you want to play whatever it is lol
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Albert Sollerridge - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 09:19:44 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.362450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362420
Siddhi, Look past those tricks and move on because they are only dead ends.
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Oliver Drollerdudging - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:12:15 EST ID:ub87TBhX No.362456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362399
>What is this image from?
>Please tell me it's a video game, I want to play it.

It's from Shadowman.


https://www.gog.com/game/shadow_man
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John Burringpone - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:39:02 EST ID:5Wh+YEr3 No.362457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been looking around for a good pcp analogue, 3-meo-pcp seems to be what everyone is talking about. I wanna capture that stimulating trippy vibe for a show im going to. Any other suggestions or should I stick with getting 3-meo?
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Esther Sillerhood - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:06:23 EST ID:F7gszRBU No.362458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362450

Maybe a dead-end for a mystic, but not a practitioner.

The mystic asks, "What does this mean?" while the magician asks, "How can I use this?"

Wisdom is wasted on the complacent and smug.
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Alice Pangerhug - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:44:35 EST ID:jQIhlHz2 No.362463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362458
I assume Albert is looking at it from a hindu/buddhist perspective where the world is an illusion and ultimately isn't worth engaging in. From that pov, using "powers" for material gain usually increases one's investment in and entanglement with the world (although not always), and ironically leads to a loss of those powers because a decreased entanglement is (supposedly) exactly what is required to have them in the first place. It's like a shit test- it's easier to abandon certain things when they're so difficult that they become undesirable, but once they become easier as a result of what you gain from that abandonment, will you return to them? If you do you fuck yourself over.

I don't think they're a dead end either but it depends on how you practice.
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Shitting Nunkinket - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:37:35 EST ID:xo9hGBdO No.362468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362463
Honestly I fail how to see the possession of said powers could be utilized in a way that would be capable of being considered not for material gain. Material gain isn't synonymous with greed, at least no from what I assume a Buddhist perspective would assume according to Buddhisms one and only true goal of letting go of all attachment the thought processes and human behaviors, conscious or unconscious, that brings, draws, or constrains awareness to and comprehension of the concept of "the self" and "Self". If the ultimate goal is to avoid material attachments because they are the source of all suffering, then the conscious awareness of yourself as an individual being separate and distinct from your surroundings in itself is the result physical matter and thus represents itself an attachment to material reality, even if it might be considered metaphysical because it's mental in origin, as metaphysical reality exists as a substrate of material reality (or perhaps it is possibly the reverse depending on your beliefs, but either way they are inexorably linked, so attachment to one means attachment to the other by extension).

So, any possession of psychic powers requires one's awareness being focused on one's selfhood pretty much by definition. If somehow that isn't considered problematic for a Buddhist, then the utilization of these powers to manipulate the material world for any goal requires as a consequence a desire, which, if not somehow problematic enough since desire is seen as a negative/antithetical to the goals of Buddhism, the desire is specifically concerning the physical world and a desire to manipulate in some way. The motivations behind a desire to manipulate physical matter have to do with one's gain somehow in physical reality no matter what. And, if one doesn't utilize said powers, how would one even know they were actually legitimately n the possession of them? Therefore, from the Buddhist perspective, these powers shouldn't be something they can know or really believe exists at all given that the stated requirement for obtaining said powers requires successfully abandoning material attachment.
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Shitting Nunkinket - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:57:26 EST ID:xo9hGBdO No.362470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362458
The only form of magic/magick that actually exists in any real sense is the kind where the magician realizes and acknowledges that things like spells only exist in a form that involves affecting reality and other people through the one's own actions and words. In other words, one effectively changes their reality by manipulating other's understanding and perception of it, consequently influencing how they respond to it. That is the only true power that a spell holds.

Taking that into consideration, the only viable way a practitioner could possibly use psychic powers is by performing spells involving mentioning these powers to somebody else in order to affect their behavior in some way.

This all of course is true because I already pretty much debunked the idea that Buddhists and other mystics could ever possess such powers, along with the entirety of modern science, as well as the fact "magic" in the sense of the exercise of nonexistent supernatural forces doesn't itself exist either. Without your definitions of what a spell, magic(k), and being a magician are just being a sly way of describing regular human interaction that is purposely meant to mischaracterize the truth behind the terminology (in which case the intent is to deceive and might as well be considered outright lies about what you believe in and what you "are" when it comes to magic and being a practitioner of it), you're just as mistaken about what you're legitimately capable of and not as anybody claiming to have real psychic powers is.
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Beatrice Forringlock - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 13:49:19 EST ID:P+Rt2k3m No.362473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362457
3meopcp is the holy grail
watch out for psychosis if you do it regulary though it creeps up on you
but its so perfect
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Rebecca Pockshit - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 16:39:05 EST ID:e/01+syA No.362474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Consensus reality can be suspended and replaced by a group reality if everyone party is genuine in their attempts and suspension of disbelief. That's why it's easier to perform pk experiments or hypnosis in group settings where most everyone is already bought in.

This is also why skepticism and materialist scientific examination can fail to produce viable results.

Most people I know believe I've acquired a sort of local telepathy, and it seems to work, too.

I practice occultism to discipline my mind and focus my will.
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Lillian Tootham - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:09:17 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.362484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362474
>most people I know believe...

>it seems to work

Easier to perform when everyone in bought in ...
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Phyllis Sangerstere - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:46:19 EST ID:r1WI8Tws No.362485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362474
The farce is strong with this whun
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Simon Crupperworth - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:17:01 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the fuck happened in here? lol
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Clara Sottingbut - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:17:45 EST ID:ooEbIVbH No.362504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone know why 3-meo-PCP causes psychosis in the first place?

I know it has some DRI properties but that wouldn't account for it provided you keep an adequate sleep schedule and take care of your physical needs. Otherwise therapeutic doses of amps or phenidate would cause psychosis even when not binging or accumulating sleep deprivation.

3-meow is the only dissociative that taken daily always ends up in some kind of psychotic break or prolonged paranoia for me. I used to take MXE daily and DXM for prolonged periods and never got to the point of being unable to tell reality from delusion, so I'm also ruling out NMDA antagonism. Does it have something to do with its sigma receptor affinity? That's the one thing I can see that differentiates 3-meo-pcp from something like ketamine or MXE is its high affinity for sigma.

Interestingly DXM/DXO both have weaker affinity for the sigma receptor and some people report with prolonged daily high dose usage they eventually develop psychosis. The confusion remains though if that's even the aggravating factor because certain anti-psychotics target sigma-1 I believe and apparently help in treating schizophrenia.

There's so much I wish I knew about how to escape the madness while using PCP analogues, they are so life enhancing when used sparingly but used daily I always end up getting whacked out eventually. With my worst run which was only 1 month of daily use it took months to feel sane again and I thought it was from coming off of benzos but now that I'm through paws and have went on prolonged binges with 3-meo-pcp I can see it was the dissociative that was messing with my head more than the PAWS from the benzos.
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Simon Crupperworth - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 01:02:39 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362504
i'd love to know as well since i genuinely never really had problems with it relative to other dissociatives
maybe it's the clonazepam? idk
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Jack Shittingwell - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 06:32:47 EST ID:4iJ967Ut No.362507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So people with ADHD get to miss out on the psychosis? Or are we just as susceptible as anyone else?
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Ian Dezzletane - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 10:45:08 EST ID:5aKpEM4w No.362509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362505

Has to do with the dopamine and sigma opioid agnostic effects.
Sigmsma receptor agonism is in ebery drug known to cause psychosis states. Cocaine, dxm, 3meopcp, lsd, etc all act of the sigma opioid receptor which i hypothesize is the receptor respondible for hallucinitory/imaginitory modulation and differentiation from reality. Dopamine is also shown to increase psyochotic states, however this could also be purely due to sigma opioid receptor agoniam because most stimulants that act on dopamine also act on sigma opioid.
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Cyril Blodgekore - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 12:36:39 EST ID:6CHLpupH No.362511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362424

Idk it just has a very dreamy surreal look to it that I dig. I also have a soft spot for that era of video-games so that's probably why I guess.
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Simon Crupperworth - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:43:06 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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oh, OP here, i'm a fucking idiot lmao here's the answer to everyone's question:

i take lamotrigine, σ–antagonist lol
have a nice day
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Simon Crupperworth - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:09:57 EST ID:97OJAXu2 No.362515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i wasn't taking it throughout the mxe years and i did get a little 3meo back then, but it was fairly uncommon and expensive at the time so i used it very sparingly.
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Jack Dettingkun - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 17:08:06 EST ID:A/4z+WR0 No.362516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362507
Not sure if this applies to others but I have ADHD and have experienced drug induced psychosis, though it wasn't because of disos
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Eliza Mammergold - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:21:25 EST ID:EWs7BLbQ No.362517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362370
You know it doesn't have to be tedious you can just volumetrically dose like which I did with the mk-801 that I had. The idea being that you're going to try and have a controlled activation of a general signal transducer so what do you think it's pumped out of the nucleus is just increased several fold right? Growth factors, ltp, Etc

I could see that being part of a deep dive into psychonautics. I'm sure the neuro chem guy it's probably chomping at the bit right now...
*call me a gahoogle scientist
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Graham Blammershit - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:53:39 EST ID:EWs7BLbQ No.362520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362517
>it's pumped out of the nucleus is just increased several fold right? Growth factors, ltp, Etc
convince yourself this makes sense
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Lillian Pogglebanks - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 07:30:17 EST ID:SnA+L/D1 No.362527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362347
and what redarded have you done?
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Jarvis Dumblemeck - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 12:13:59 EST ID:w9mXFleX No.362530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362527
i accidentally did those
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William Hocklehood - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:59:38 EST ID:ooEbIVbH No.362565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362516

ADHD doesn't prevent you from getting drug induced psychosis. I have it too and have went psychotic off of 3-meo-pcp.
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Eugene Dreffingfield - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 13:18:25 EST ID:/+nZXI4I No.362613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362517
you are pic related


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