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manners at the bar by Graham Chackleferk - Tue, 22 May 2018 13:10:01 EST ID:OPHJj0it No.278476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I turn 21 tomorrow.

What's correct bar educate?

thanks
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Wesley Dagglekitch - Tue, 22 May 2018 16:54:43 EST ID:4f5te5u6 No.278477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278476
>bar educate

I’m assuming you mean etiquette. There’s nothing really specific. Just don’t act a fool, respect your bartender, the usual. It’s basically like going to a restaurant except you’re gonna be there for the sole purpose of alcohol consumption, so don’t act crazy. Try to socialize with the other patrons, you should be fine
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Alice Hogglepudge - Tue, 22 May 2018 17:41:25 EST ID:c1B23Kso No.278478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tfw you never been to a bar in your entire life but you regurarly drink till you pass out at home
life is good
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Nathaniel Bundlebock - Tue, 22 May 2018 20:24:56 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Get the bartender's attention just with eye contact, or slightly raising your hand. Don't use your voice for attention.

Tip at least $1 per drink. Unless it's a cocktail, then it's at least $2.
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Martha Cedgeway - Tue, 22 May 2018 20:53:15 EST ID:LazM8mpU No.278485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278476
tip and learn your bartender's name.
best way to make a friend is to be a friend.
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Esther Dittingville - Sun, 27 May 2018 20:52:36 EST ID:qrA4tgTb No.278545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278483
>tipping $1 for a guy to pull a beer out of a fridge and twist the top off for you

Tip 15% at the end of the night.
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Charles Webblemodge - Mon, 28 May 2018 02:07:46 EST ID:uzQDNzSO No.278548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278545
If they are pouring a draft for ya a dollar will do
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Thomas Grandworth - Mon, 28 May 2018 13:08:21 EST ID:vPJWCXof No.278550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278545
This. Unless they're mixing a cocktail you're giving them a dollar every time they take three seconds to hand you a bottle or refill your glass out of a tap. I can't justify that shit
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Walter Nimmlefuck - Mon, 28 May 2018 13:26:14 EST ID:iPmvl/4c No.278552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278550
Then stay at home and drink.
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Beatrice Brimmleshaw - Mon, 28 May 2018 13:57:06 EST ID:Sv93hATm No.278553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278552
or don't live in the US where it 's customary to tip every drink. In most normal countries you barely tip at bars
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Doris Blillerlad - Mon, 28 May 2018 14:09:57 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278550
It's just a dollar. I'm broke as fuck, but even I can afford being nice to bartenders. Gets you faster service, too. And They'll be nicer when your drunk ass makes a faux pas. Through the night, it;s only like $10 extra bucks. Not that much to be one of the drunk sthey like.

I'll skip a tip if it's a busy club/bar I don't frequent, and it's just a can/bottle they're opening. And I've got cash.
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Thomas Grandworth - Mon, 28 May 2018 15:04:36 EST ID:vPJWCXof No.278555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278552
lol. A dollar for the couple seconds it takes to twist a cap is literally CEO tier pay. I leave a perfectly reasonable ~18% when I close out my tab and if a bartender wants to get all self-righteous because I don't throw money at him every time he blinks I just won't leave one at all.
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Fucking Dusslelig - Wed, 30 May 2018 12:22:51 EST ID:QpGKtzOA No.278568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278555

If you're not going to leave a decent tip then what's the point of even going out? If you're too cheap/poor to tip an okay amount then be a cheap/poor ass and drink at home. You make me sick.
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Jarvis Smallshit - Wed, 30 May 2018 15:14:15 EST ID:Sv93hATm No.278570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278568
Americans really are retarded, huh?
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Charlotte Grimham - Wed, 30 May 2018 18:37:35 EST ID:vPJWCXof No.278571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278568
That's a perfectly acceptable tip. Half the places I've been to even put what a 15%, 18% and 20% tip comes out to on the receipt for your convenience because those are the standard tips. If that isn't enough for you then maybe you should get a big boy job instead of demanding I shower you with money every time you take two seconds to do something a retarded chimp could be trained to do in about ten minutes.
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Martin Hirryfodging - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 07:44:25 EST ID:H1MsSgXk No.278634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278568
>Why leave the house if you're not going to tip
holy shit that argument is piss poor
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Sophie Pickridge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:13:54 EST ID:CTEwynO4 No.278644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278571
This. 18ish% at the end of the night is fine. A dollar a beer is ok too but honestly your'e probably over-tipping at that point. If I want crazy good service Ill tip like $10 on the first drink in the beginning of the night. That usually gets the bartender to fill your drink up instantly when its empty. But especially these days where cash isn't super common, its easier to just tip at the end of the night. Plus this lets you tip according to service rendered. If you're tipping a buck after every drink and you get average/poor service you're literally throwing away money. Bar tending isn't a hard job, just like most of the jobs in the service industry. If your bartender gives good service you should tip them well. If you wait an excessive amount of time for drinks, get ignored, get incorrect drinks or get a shitty attitude then you shouldn't tip more than a few bucks. That's the whole point of tipping T.oI.nsureP.romptS.ervice. Obv if the bars super busy and the bartenders having a hard time getting you drinks cuz they're swamped take that into account and dont tip like an asshole cuz theirs a million customers.
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Archie Subberwurk - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:22:40 EST ID:2xHAESwY No.278658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278568
Lol wtf? Nigguh no one expects you to tip 20% on every single drink. They're happy if they get a tip but it's not like you're obliged to tip every single time you order. What you're obliged to pay is on the bill. Everything else is extra. You aren't required to tip a single dollar unless it's on the bill. If you like the service you can choose to tip. You don't HAVE to tip.
are you guys retarded? The obligatory part is to pay the bill, tipping isn't obligatory. Lol are they gonna kick me out because I buy $150 worth of drinks and only tip $5? Do you guys forget what tipping is for? It's an added bonus, if you feel like your service was extra good you can tip, if you aren't satisfied with it you don't tip. That simple. You only have to pay what's on the fucking bill and not a penny more.
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Eugene Crankinforth - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:57:17 EST ID:ek/ETf81 No.278673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278634

No it's not.

If you can't afford to leave a tip then you can't afford to fucking eat out or go to a bad.

It is literally that fucking simple. Stop being a cheap fucking Bill Cosby for once
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Martha Pockfield - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:51:36 EST ID:YhoEPh5/ No.278675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So as a bartender for the past 7 years I have to say that I have never once seen the 20% thing. I work at a hole in the wall dance club on the east coast and it's always been a dollar a drink. I deal with 60+ different customers a night and you guys are solely in the minority with your tipping behaviors. When you pay as you go you always leave an extra dollar on the table. When you cash out at the end of the night you don't think about what 20% is, you just remember how many drinks you've had and tip accordingly.

I don't know if any of you people saying 20% are American or not, but if you are you've definitely pissed off some bartenders. Now, if you're ordering food along with the drinks you're not obligated to tip a dollar a drink but you're also at a restaurant that has a bar, not a drinks only bar.
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Nell Fesslefit - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:01:16 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278673
so are you going to call cops on me or what? maybe instead of posting in this shitstorm you start your own bar where you make it an actual written rule? no? then get the fuck out of here with your stupid "I said so and all people should respect that" shit
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Martin Finkinstudge - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:46:23 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278675
Lol I’m not obligated regardless. You’re not not gonna get a 50%+ tip from me. If you’re gonna intentionally give me shitty service because I’m not making it rain every time you twist a cap then I won’t tip at the end either and it all works out
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Doris Creffingmurk - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 20:04:01 EST ID:dQEqj5i6 No.278697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278673

fun fact: this isn't a thing in the civilised world, because bar staff are paid properly
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Charles Blackman - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 21:51:25 EST ID:SmctnuYy No.278709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278688
That's when I decide to not pay any attention to you and stop serving you because I live in a right to serve state. If I say you've had enough, you've had enough and you can get your cheap ass out of my bar. Why do you think homeless people have a tough time in bars? It's because Bartenders get paid 2.25 an hour and having a dick that's not going to tip you and scare away customers is bad for business.

If you're not willing to tip decently that's fine, but it also means you aren't going to get any more drinks from me. It gets even better if you get upset that I gave you a water and asked you to calm down because then I can get the bouncer involved. Nothing like getting 86ed from a bar because you were a complete cunt that refuses to play by the rules.

Or if you simply leave no tip at the end if the night because you've been paying on a tab, we will write down your name and make sure you aren't allowed back in. There's a pretty strict private club law in my state and everyone has to be a member to come in. You have to sign your name, have your membership card, etc.

Once you're on the 86 list you can never become a member again and you can never sign in as a guest with a friend. Have fun alienating every American bartender you run into if you ever decide to make a trip over here. Just because there's some cultural issues you can't wrap your head around doesn't mean you can act like a horrible foreigner and pretend you're still in the EU.

Not to mention European tourists are always the worst customers when it comes to tips. Not black guys, not primadonna white women, but European men and women.

Do you even know anybody that works in the American service industry? It's unlike anywhere else in the world and completely favors the owner. You not tipping isn't making a statement, it's being a dick because you want to save money.
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Martha Blivingturk - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 23:39:39 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278709
Like I said, if you give me shitty service because I'm not throwing wads of money at you the entire night instead of giving you a completely standard lump sum at the end then I'll just leave exact change for my tab and head to the next bar over.

You've really got me quaking in my boots threatening to ban me from your exclusive VIP deluxe members only club. Sounds like the greatest sense of power you've ever felt in your life comes from fantasies about asking some guy to leave in a bar that pays you $2.25 an hour lmao, as if I'd ever be interested in coming back to a bar tended by some entitled manchild that skips over anybody paying with plastic.
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Charles Blackman - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:23:35 EST ID:SmctnuYy No.278716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278712
>>278712
It's a statewide thing, not an exclusive VIP thing. Having the law on the bar's side is one of the few upsides of having to deal with ALE officers coming in and digging through membership records hoping to fine us with anything. Also, I'm not talking 20% on a card, I'm talking a straight stiff. We have our regulars and some get better service than others. If I can keep them in and pompous assholes out, it's all bueno.

It's the little power I can get at my menial service industry job so you're goddamn right I enjoy utilizing it. Fuck man, bartenders can't even drink on the job in my state. It's different everywhere, but if you're able to talk as much shit as you do about service industry workers you can at least tip like a normal human being. If paying 3 dollars for a 2 dollar draft special is too much for you, then you shouldn't go out. Hell, in order to get into any bars in my state you have to purchase a membership card FOR EACH BAR YOU VISIT that costs anywhere from a buck to 5 dollars and all of that money goes straight to the state police. Drinking out with friends is expensive, but if you do it more often you might realize that you're being a complete ass while everyone else is tipping like a well-adjusted adult.
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Henry Pellygold - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 22:01:41 EST ID:ppiAr7bo No.278720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember i tipped this one bartender a dollar for a drink(rum and coke) but i paid in 4 quarters. She looked at me and said "you look like you need it more than i do" and made a laughing/sarcastic face and didn't take the tip. I had tipped her a dollar previously for two other drinks that night. It really seemed pointlessly insulting ;/
Bartenders are people too and a lot of people can be little cunts. Its probably just playing into expectations of society and fear of looking bad or whatever that causes people to tip. but for me personally my mom is an immigrant, took me to the us when i was 3 and she worked as a bartender when she was a poor, single mom and i was a little boy and those tips kept us going, so i always tip even if they're cunts, i dont know.
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Shitting Mussleway - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 02:01:14 EST ID:sYodSTw7 No.278722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278720
I think it's cultural. 420chan has become extremely multicultural as of late and that's great. In the USA, however, restaurant culture is different than a lot of countries. People that aren't used to tipping find it insane and people that were raised with it accept it as part of the social structure.

I guess what I'm saying is that while tips are a big deal in etiquette where it's appropriate, the big take away is to be decent to your bartender. Don't snap or whistle at him/her to get their attention, don't talk shit loudly hoping that the bartender hears it and gives you better service, and don't order insane cocktails while the bar is busy.

Tips are a cultural thing and it's obvious that we can't even have a reasonable discussion about them without someone who's never had to tip chiming in.
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Simon Huttingwell - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:35:40 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>All these mental backflips to avoid paying an extra dollar per drink
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Charlotte Sibblefeck - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:09:16 EST ID:wLCeqsvp No.278727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278726
Do you even hear what you're saying?

>paying extra
>for drinks

anyway >>278722 has a good point, nb
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Simon Huttingwell - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 15:35:41 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278727
Bars are expensive. If you can't afford it, go to the liquor store. Otherwise, you're disrespecting servents of the booze.
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Nicholas Girringville - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:58:36 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278728
It's their problem, not mine
Are you disrespecting people begging for money if you don't give it to them?
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Priscilla Gipperwatch - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:57:53 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278728
>bars are expensive bro you need to tip me triple what you would tip literally any other service worker because I want more money that's just how it works
No lol. You don't do literally anything that warrants tipping you more than the ~20% standard tip people give waiters and delivery bois. You're nothing but a beggar to demand more when you work no harder than them.
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Cyril Noffinghet - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 22:38:06 EST ID:KAoY/+AG No.278734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is why I just drink at home. The entire tipping thing is ridiculous and its not my fault people accept to work for $2.50/ hour. If I want a drink, I literally take the bottle and pour it in my cup #whoaman.

It takes me less effort to do that than to try to get the bartenders attention, say what drink I want, then watch him/her pour the drink and expect some 2$ or so (they'll hate you if you don't tip lmao). At the end of the day, I save 5x the money and get things done twice as fast.
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Nell Drillyfeg - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 23:45:47 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278731
I've never worked at a bar, I just get drunk a bunch and try to follow social norms. Faster, nicer service is also nice.

>you need to tip me triple what you would tip literally any other service worker
$2 a pint is pretty much as cheap as it gets. So a dollar is a 50% tip. That's a lot, but it's still just a fucking dollar you little bitch.

>>278729
So you don't tip waiters?
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Eugene Nicklewill - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:41:36 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278735
> it's still just a fucking dollar you little bitch.
Maybe if you go out to the bar to drink ONE beer like a little bitch, which I suspect you do and you are since you talk like money isn't an issue while making $2.25 an hour lol
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Hamilton Wammerdock - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:47:34 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278735
yep, I don't tip, can't try to save the world by throwing money around when there's literally no reason for them to not get a better job if it's so badly paid
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Samson - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:44:52 EST ID:iiqDNW1e No.278740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278734
agreed. bars are for hipsters and boomers, a real alcoholic can't afford to spend $3-5 plus tip per drink. and while I know working in the service industry sucks, no bar I've ever been to has given tipworthy service (and I have quite a low standard for that too). the rudeness, slowness and entitled attitudes bartenders have would never fly anywhere I've worked, and so I refuse to give them my money
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Jenny Dartway - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:05:54 EST ID:KAoY/+AG No.278741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278740
I still can't wrap my head around the whole tipping culture thing. I understand its a service but why should we tip them for pouring drinks into a cup, or waiters to bring food to your table? That's literally their job. Why don't we tip construction workers, mailman, car sellers etc? Why don't I get tips for my job?

If they want more money they should be asking the manager for the raise rather than expect the customer to give them extra. Maybe they should've thought twice before agreeing to work for slave tier wages.

And for the people saying "omg its just a dollar why be so cheap and not tip?"... exactly. its just a dollar. Why get pissy when you don't receive an extra dollar that you think you're entitled to? Argument work both ways
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Frederick Bettinghall - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:14:38 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278741
>Maybe they should've thought twice before agreeing to work for slave tier wages.
They did, and they decided it would be okay because they could simply demand customers more than make up the difference and refuse to do their job otherwise.
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Samuel Murdwell - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:30:22 EST ID:BOpg2R6c No.278746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278741

Why bitch and complain about it if you're too fucking poor to tip anyways?

Stay at home with your shitty broke ass loser friends while all the cool people go to the bar and hang out with attractive women in a light-hearted atmosphere.

Places where tipping is customary isn't for people like you anyways. No shit you don't understand.
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Fanny Besslefield - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:53:00 EST ID:GZKVYpxN No.278747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tipping is primarily a social status indicator. if you are a poorfag dont go to nice places
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Jenny Dartway - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:17:25 EST ID:KAoY/+AG No.278749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278746
Here we see le entitled tip man feeling threatened when others agree that an extra dollar should not be mandatory

>too poor to not get angry if not tipped extra
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Henry Sushfure - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:30:23 EST ID:zCNWShW2 No.278750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278746
Why bitch and complain when you don't get tipped extra then?
Instead of addressing the argument, why go straight to name calling and call others poor?
If the place demands customary tipping, why not save a step and just include it in the bill?

That's right, your dumb fucking ass cant think of better reasons why you should be receiving any tip at all. Its not anyone's fault youre getting underpaid and think that its justifiable the customer should be paying extra, while you have resort to calling
others poor for paying the fair amount already. This is entitlement at its finest lads
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Alice Pockstock - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:34:50 EST ID:KpPU4IQI No.278751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278750
Holy shit. Why are you like this? Who hurt you?
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Frederick Bettinghall - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:08:10 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278746
>lower-middle class alcoholic degenerate thinks he's Mr. Monopoly because he went to a bar
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Cyril Nunderworth - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:04:57 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278750
>This is entitlement at its finest lads
You're the entitled one. You're ignoring social norms just to save a few bucks.

I'm broke as fuck. I don't go to bars when I'm unemployed, which is most of the time. But even when I'm employed, bars a fucking expensive. You know what I do? I fucking pregame. I order cheap drinks. But I still don't stiff the staff, unless I'm desperate and they're already doin alright.

You're the one being an entitled cunt.

>>278747
>tipping is primarily a social status indicator.
No it's not. It's servers' primary income.

BTW, your tip usually goes to the barback and the door as well. If you have 5 drinks and tip a dollar each, then you're basically giving the bartender 3, the barback 1, and door/security 1. I'm not exactly sure of the usual breakdown, But how is that not fair?


This is how it works in all of the US. If you don't follow the norm, then you're just a dick.
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Hamilton Bamblestock - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:06:26 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278752
I have to admit that /drank is almost as delusional about shit as /psy nowadays, and that's not a good thing
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Hamilton Bamblestock - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:13:14 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278753
>if you spend your own money how you want to and not how I tell you to you are entitled

brainwashing at it's finest, also kinda ironic that a fucking alcoholic worries about social norms
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Cyril Nunderworth - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:50:00 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278755
More like
>If you don't pay for services you use, just because you aren't legally required to, then you are entitled.
Or
>If you're so isolated from people in the service industry that you don't realize why skipping tips is a dick move, then you are entitled
Or
>If you can afford to get drunk at home, but instead spend more money at a bar, while not participating in the social norm that makes bartending a decent job, then you are entitled.

I don't believe the other people who called you poor or broke. I don't believe that for a second. Poor and broke people get it. If they skip on tipping, they at least get why it's a dick move. You're definitely middle or upper class to be unrepentant about not tipping.
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Cyril Nunderworth - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 19:51:58 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278755
>also kinda ironic that a fucking alcoholic worries about social norms
But yah, you got me there. LOLOL.
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Beatrice Tootridge - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:38:58 EST ID:DZuI3tdk No.278759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278755
>ITT Europeans
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Shitting Duckshit - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 02:55:02 EST ID:J3Xw7ZHh No.278777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol poor bar whores
i'm poor as fuck so I don't go to bars, but why would you tip someone who works there and their sole job is to "serve" {you beeers}???

I live in an anti slavery state so we don't have people working at bars for $2.50 but I don't tip at bars or restaurants unless the service was exceptional, thus being worthy of more money than what I paid for.
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Augustus Bungold - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 20:06:33 EST ID:SpEllgnh No.278785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278777

The only time it is acceptable not to tip is if the service was bad. If you go to a place where it is customary to tip, and do not tip purely for the sake of, "hurr tipping is for fag," then you are literally human fucking scum, as your post appears to make you out to be.

Tipping is not for, "exceptional service." Tipping IS CUSTOMARY, and tipping WELL is for exceptional service. You leave a GOOD tip for GOOD service, mediocre tip for mediocre service, and NO TIP for butt suck ass service.

And if the food is late, that's the cooks fault, not the servers fault, so don't blame the server for the cook time and then not leave them a tip. That's equally ignorant.

Like, damn what the fuck is wrong with you nigglets? Are you people really that socially inept and cheap? Fucking Jews.
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Cornelius Dapperton - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:31:54 EST ID:GHFLwdVq No.278786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278785
Yeah some people are just either A: too stupid to understand the simple concept or B: just total pieces of shit who think they're the exception and it's okay.
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John Nellyden - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 03:14:04 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278785
Yeah I have to do what others do because they have to be right and they won't like me if I don't do this
Logic of 10 year old kid
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Frederick Fanningpon - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:13:18 EST ID:RoazgkYv No.278794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278788

>disobeying social norms that have been part of US culture for years

Logic of a hipster
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Shitting Fazzlestone - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 18:49:36 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278794
Seems pretty obvious that you're the trendy faggot trying to project an image when you bitch about "disobeying" social norms lol
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Phineas Sissleville - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:38:59 EST ID:KKqXljqI No.278798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278796
Holy shit, have you ever considered not being a massive dick? You call people out and then when it comes back to you you can't handle it and lash out like a

>10 year old kid

Drink more and chill out. You're too angry about everything to be shitposting this hard.
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Shitting Fazzlestone - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:47:27 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278798
Nothing came back to me lol. I'm not the person he was replying to. It's ironic how buttfrustrated you are about this while telling people to chill out
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Cyril Funkinwodge - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 07:07:37 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278794
>obeying some US norms and laws when you don't even live in the US
you guys are really retarded from all thos big macs and whisky
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Beatrice Siggledale - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:15:26 EST ID:q1qMVNVX No.278808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278807
Oh you pretentious foreigners...
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Fanny Drurryville - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:26:57 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278807
Bruh. You posted like 5 times in this thread, always replying to posts about the US, and this is the first time you bring up being elsewhere? Jesus christ. Just say so. Take a hint from the context of the conversation. You can talk about whatever country you're from, but it's HELPFUL TO KNOW WHICH.

This may shock you, but there's different etiquette around the world! Why don't you tell us how your country (which definitely has mcdonalds) operates.
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Cyril Funkinwodge - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:54:07 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278809
Our bartenders don't cry about their earnings as they have plenty of other jobs to chose from
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Charles Crindlefatch - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:20:33 EST ID:GHFLwdVq No.278811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278810
You're a retard. Nobody is saying that the tipping system is great and just, we're just saying that if you deprive a working class person of their income then you're an asshole.
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Fanny Drurryville - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 11:32:04 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278810
Just say where you're from, so we can get to making fun of it. Come on. It'll be fun.
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Cyril Funkinwodge - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:01:07 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278811
Dude, their boss pays them, you knew that? I worked at many jobs and never expected people to tip me, begging for extra money and calling people that dont give it to you thieves is crazy

>>278812
Triggered murican detected
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William Sammerridge - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 14:48:04 EST ID:DPZeeqsp No.278814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278813
My votes on Brazil but you could be the Iranian guy from /nom/ too. At least if you're from Iran it would make some sense as to your complete lack of bar etiquette.
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Fanny Drurryville - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 15:42:10 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278813
>Dude, their boss pays them, you knew that?
Their boss pays them far below minimum wage. The tips make up for that. It's a stupid system, but it more or less works as long as everyone knows what's going on and isn't a dickwad.

Also, thetip is usually split with the barback (or busser), and the door (or host) at the end of the night.

If you visit murica, fucking tip.
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Cyril Funkinwodge - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 16:10:07 EST ID:ExMRKS84 No.278816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278815
>if you visit murica, fucking tip
make me, keyboard warrior of justice
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Charlotte Grimhall - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:01:22 EST ID:Fzy0QMa4 No.278817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278816
Nah he can't do anything that would constitute disobedience of social norms
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Rebecca Nishfare - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:42:02 EST ID:FN80l/K/ No.278818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278476
no one seems to have answered this man lol

i've been working service industry in America for about 5 years, bartending for 4 in fine dining restaurants and a few clubs.

just be yourself dude. try not to get too plastered, though that depends on the place. the reason i say so is because you will be judged harsh by the patrons and the ones behind the bar, especially if you harass any girls at the bar.

i love seeing people have good conversations with each other while starting off as strangers. that will happen, and just relax and realize some people are there to maybe just to be away from people they are familiar with. alcohol will loosen anyone up, and sharing with strangers is kind of the point.

just dont be that dude that i have seen at higher end places get plastered and keep pestering women that literally turn their backs to him. its like cmon man lol get the fucking message.

also, regarding tipping, always close your tab out on your first drink with a good tip. for me, personally, AND THIS IS JUST ME, i always tip the amount of the first drink, no matter what it may be. it leaves a good first impression, and it's only like 3-5$ depending on where you are. it just depends on how long you want to be there, but trust me - if you do that, i will fucking ignore the hottest big tittied women just to make sure my boy that tipped me is taken care of. they also will not expect you to keep tipping ridiculously like that if you decide to stay - thats when you keep the tab open until you leave and then just leave 20%
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Nicholas Hupperstone - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 23:56:57 EST ID:0iL/IY0w No.278824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>expecting a 1$ tip for opening a beer

Bar-tenders are the scum of the earth. Get drunk at home with your friends rather than support some sad-sack's cocaine habit.
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Fuck Bremmerkot - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 01:19:56 EST ID:hEemcRr1 No.278825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278824

That's how they make a living and pay bills and buy groceries like the rest of us. Most bartenders rely on tips as their hourly pay is below minimum wage. Nobody forced you to walk into the bar. Tip your bartender like a decent human being and enjoy your night out.
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Henry Bardson - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 02:56:29 EST ID:dNeQV3Fd No.278828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278825
nobody forced them to get shitty job
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Phoebe Nicklecocke - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:41:13 EST ID:zcSOKQ6e No.278829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278828
It isn't a shitty job. It pays well because of the tips. I think you're messing up your adjectives here. A government job/military could be considered a shitty job by someone with an anti military perspective, but that doesn't mean it doesn't pay well or have other benefits.

Also, I wish I knew more about world languages so that I could figure out which ones don't use indefinite articles like "a". It's a common trend in your posts and honestly, congrats on being bilingual. All I can speak or type other than English is Spanish, but it's practically the same grammar and sentence structure.

It's all about where you're from and what you know. When I was in Japan where tipping is unacceptable, I didn't tip. It was the social norm and I didn't want to come across as a shitty foreign tourist, plus they DO get paid a decent wage. No one gets a bartending job in the USA thinking that they will actually get paid $2.13 an hour. Tips are not supplemental, they're the actual wage.

Open up to the world my friend.
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Henry Bardson - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 06:40:23 EST ID:dNeQV3Fd No.278832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278829
trilingual actually but who gives a fuck, common trend in my posts is that I'm high af and barely know what I'm relpying to

I still think it is shitty because you have to rely on randoms to pay you as your boss can't afford that and then people constatly whine about how bad they are doing because someone didn't give them few bucks
if they were included in actual wage, bar would have to have some rules that force people to tip

also it's about figuring out on your own whether you want to give bartenders some money or not, blindly following "social norms" lead to some pretty bad things happening in the past
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Fanny Sashstock - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 06:54:52 EST ID:q1qMVNVX No.278833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278832
Slippery slope argument equating tips with fascism (even though you're going to say that isn't what you were implying) is just asinine.

It's either 10 bucks a beer without tips or 3 bucks a beer with the idea that you tip 1 extra to keep the service happy. Bartenders will accept low hourly wages to make more on a good day and people will gladly tip one dollar to keep the prices low. Owners can afford to charge less because they pay their service less, but it works out on all sides. Welcome to capitalism comrade.
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Sophie Honeyway - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 07:38:23 EST ID:wLCeqsvp No.278834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278833
>Welcome to America comrade

ftfy
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Henry Bardson - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:27:54 EST ID:dNeQV3Fd No.278839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278833
>welcome to I-beg-customers-for-money
ftfy
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John Begglefield - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 23:41:50 EST ID:KAoY/+AG No.278842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278839

>Literally begs customers for money
>This is the brize of cabitalism :DDD
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Cornelius Tillingfoot - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:28:22 EST ID:WVEl/fwu No.278844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278816
Does everybody in your country assume that the rest of the world is exactly the same? Serious question. Just tell us the fucking country. We need to make fun of it. I guess we can go in alphabetical order, according to https://www.un.org/en/member-states/index.html

>Afghanistan
No wonder you don't know bar culture. Talivan, islam, etc.
>Albania
AKA wanabee Greece.
>Algeria
Fuckit. I'm 3 countries deep, and already bored. Wherever you live, it's a shithole and you wish you were in murica. I'd welcome you, as long as you tip bartenders.
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Shit Claddlelock - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:23:58 EST ID:RxJZVL1F No.278845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278844

Growing up in a place where it is customary to leave a tip for a service job, it blows my mind that there are so many cheap ass, poor Bill Cosbys in the world.

I guess that's what I get for not being a cheap ass, poor Bill Cosby.
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George Pimmerfield - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:41:18 EST ID:DPZeeqsp No.278846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278845
I'm still not convinced it isn't just the same guy switching his VPN and talking to himself.
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Walter Tootshaw - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 16:20:14 EST ID:oZ/VnHgN No.278851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278846

Fuck yourself dude. Go be fucking poor somewhere else
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Doris Gemmerwell - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 16:36:50 EST ID:WP1K/05E No.278852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>278796

Leaving a tip at a restaraunt or bar is just part of the experience. Its like eating popcorn at the movies how is that projecting an image?
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Doris Channerson - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 05:01:38 EST ID:GHFLwdVq No.278858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>278846
Because it is inconceivable that someone would think it's not okay to deprive someone of their earnings and to be a leech because you're too broke or you 'don't believe in it'?


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