Alone in the Wild - a cautionary tale for amateur survivalists.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1660673/

>>7392
what, don't go into the woods massively under-prepared and MASSIVELY fucking crazy?

Dumping some shots from an abandoned house in my town I explored last year.
The room beyond the door in the centre of this photo had no furniture besides a mattress that someone had brought into the house after it was abandoned, a partially deflated beach ball and a cabinet with hundreds (I'm not exagerating) of used condoms all over it and inside it.
Shady shit.

>>7386
Here's the exterior.

>>7387
Sorry, here it is. nb

The bang bed.

Back porch/Entrance

>>4934
Nah. Your stupid ass will die of exposure or starvation first.

I am 25 and unemployed, wasting away behind a desk may seem pathetic.

But I would rather be doing a shitty job in an office than wasting away doing nothing and being unemployed.

When you have a job you can save, go on holiday, have fun with your friends, live at your own place and have a car.

All the time looking to do something which makes you happy.

>>4872
The balance that has to be found imho would be having enough good memories that you could replicate in whatever new world you will be in while attempting to mould your day to day in this world with things you may need in the next. Physical fitness and combat training are a must when shtf, and physical fitness is a good thing now. Getting into some kind of martial arts class and working for the money to do that would give you a double dose of discipline helping you realize that what you want to do needs to be mixed with what you need to do and, hopefully, very often intertwined.

I have a question that I was going to post in another thread, but it fits perfectly here. I really need help on it, because my family assumes Im crazy and "overthinking things" so I dont bring it up with them.

Im from Minnesota, right outside of the capitol St Paul. Back home I liked to go camping, canoeing, etc. Its MN so theres plenty of great areas to do that.
BUT:
Last year, unhappy with school at home, I moved to San Francisco to go to college. I have a job in a woodshop (which is awesome!) but no car, no weapons, just a medium bug out bag in my dorm closet. So now I have no way to escape and Im situated right in the middle of one of the densest cities on the West Coast, and the West Coast is ALREADY a prime target for attacks or catastrophe.

Part of me thinks I should move back home, partly for friends and family but mostly for safety. Part of me thinks I shouldn't let fear of the future effect me in such a way, and I should stick it out here.

What do you guys think?

>>4872agg

>>7208

Shouldn't matter how old they are or if they even have a proof of purchase. Zippos come with a lifetime guarantee and they damn well mean that literally.

I'd use the gunpowder from the bullets to start a fire before I traded them away to anyone else, but I'm a paranoid bastard who has no trust for anyone not within the range of one of my weapons.

>>7210
If you traded me dud rounds, and they didn't work next time I needed them, if I survived, I'd come looking for you.

>>7213

Nah you misunderstood me. I meant that I'd use them to make a fire instead of trading them. It might still fuck you over, but it would fuck you over in a much more honest way.

I would trade medical services like minor surgery, dentistry and medicine for the sick, wound cleaning and i can make my own medicine when its all gone being an herbalist, this also makes me valuable as a person and could save me from death or harm because i would be one of the few people on the continent let alone area that can do what i could do, i could aslo grow weed, make booze, weapons (welding and blacksmithing) im also a mechanic, as well as having a set of regular bush craft/ survival skills, i can also tech martial arts so i think im set :B

>>7344

>>grows weed
>>smokes and gets high
>>thinks hes "medicated"
>>now i know how to doctor

Whenever I see people(on here it is some of the worst) post what they would take in a SHTF scenario, a lot of those people probably have never walked 20 miles with more than 30 pounds. Even funnier when they talk about carrying ten 30rd magazines, a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. The weight difference of even a few ounces is a huge difference hiking. Needless weight adds up and can kill you.

I have a 12"x1/2" crobar and that is as big as I would want to carry with any sort of frequency. Going any bigger and you may not be gaining any advantage that can't be made up for with an improvised cheater bar. Even the mighty crowbar is too limited for it's size and weight. An entry tool with a prying end would probably be better due to the versatility.

If you have a group then someone should have a real crowbar because they can be invaluable for foraging(along with an axe and a means to carry a lot of weight like a sled or something). If you are held up at a set location and just go out on raids or foraging trips, the less weight that you carry, the more weight you can bring home. That means less trips and less energy spent.

I would use a metal baseball bat. Swift, tough, has some reach, and is somewhat useful outside of combat. Can be used as a hammer or destruction tool. Pretty lightweight and easy to carry in hand or attached to a bag.

>>7343
BONK!

>>5979
Shellelagh or a machete. Would hate to have to choose. Probably go with the shellelagh. Traition and all.

>>7381
Traditionally its spelled Shillelagh.

What do you think would be a good survival weapon, I'd personally go for a Moist Nugget with about 95 rounds of 7.62x54 with me.

>>7333
DIY gravity filter using a katadyn hiker filter, look it up. Use a ferro rod for fire starting and keep matches as a last resort. Cover the match tips in wax to waterproof. Also learn how to make fire using only sticks at least 4 different ways. If you use the hand drill method, get a length of string the same length as the drill and put a loop on each end that you slide your tumbs into, then put the string in a notch at the top of the drill. This allows you to apply ample pressure and rotation without having to roll down and then stop to re-position. Picture related.
>>7334
Too heavy imo. Look into the kel-tex sub-2000. $250-350 folding pistol carbine that comes in 9mm and .40s&w and accepts 33rd glock mags. It doesn't have AP capabilities but you don't have armor anyways so you will probably die in a fight with someone who does. I would go for the .40 because of the better performance but .40 isn't as common as 9mm. 9mm doesn't have as much stopping power but police and most military pistols are 9mm so they are easier to scavange. Did I mention it is fairly accurate at 100yrds and weights only 4 pounds? That means you are lighter, faster, and can go longer. Treat the kel-tec like the liberator pistols of WWII and use it only as a backup or a means to procure better guns off people you kill. Only real downside it that it can be hard to locate on shelves(so order one), the ergonomics of the weapon are something to get used to, there isn't as many aftermarket parts as the AR or AK platforms, and the barrel isn't threaded(suppressors are a small reason why that is important).

>>7334

My survival weapon would either be a 10/22 or a Ruger markII. I'm a fine shot with both of them and I can take down anything up to a deer. Although it is legal to take a moose under certain circumstances in Alaska with a .22.

Honestly, I'd have to go with whatever I get my hands on.
From personnel experience I'm quite confident with a 12-gauge but need more practice with pistols. Highest I'd go is .45 semi-auto side arm, maybe a 1911 if I can find one.

>>7334
I have upgraded my kit from 50 bullets to 96 bullets, just so I could be better than you.

When we've both spent 95 bullets killing zombies, I will save that last bullet until I find you, and I will kill you with it.

>>7371
Just wait until after about 6 months when all the alcohol is taken from stores. Anyone who is producing alcohol and beer will be like gods to the survivors. Imagine not being able to get an aged whiskey for 10 years or rum because you are nowhere near cane sugar.

Luckily, yeast can be cultivated by taking wheat and water and letting it sit out. I would try and produce beer with a culture of streptomyces so I can have beer with a gold film that is an anti-biotic. A beer that cures you of disease? That shit will be better than bullets or whores.

>>7371
Early colonial Australia used rum for money before we bought Spanish coin from America and punched holes in them to make the "holey dollar".

Then again, we're Australians, we're fucking crazy. I'm sure if the world ended, in certain parts of the western suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne, and even Aukland over in New Zealand, no-one would be able to tell the difference.

Pot would be the easiest to grow while maintaining necessities. It is called weed for a reason.

>>7374

There was a time where it literally was a weed and grew everywhere naturally. Sure there was no super mango bubblegum kush or anything like that and we would lose that again but it would be easy.

>>7376
We would not lose strains. We may lose some obscure ones but the majority would still be around. There are seed banks and people with clones/seeds all over and some silly little apocalypse isn't going to stop us from keeping the strains alive.

>>7363
Well... no.
You are playing to much video games.

>>7364
Yeah you don't survive radiation poisoning as bad as the ghouls were subject to. Mutants will exist but they will be like 8 legged pigs and shit like what came out of Chernobyl, but those die very quickly.

If I ever saw a deathclaw, I would be running very fast in the opposite direction crying with a trail of feces and urine behind me.

>>7364
Actually no i'm not. Even the Fallout game i mentioned exagerates it.
I'm not taking this information out of my ass even the concept of nuclear winter that used to be considered absolute truth is being proven to be exagerated. If we had a nuclear war all important industries and military facilities would be nuked instantly and people would survive in nuclear shelters and in small villages throughtout the globe to re-populate earth.
I personally recomend you the documentary Threads (1986) by BBC it does portray a very accurate depiction of the events during and after a nuclear war relatively near targets of nuclear bombardment but it is extremely outdated and modern theories prove life in post-apocalyptia woudln't be so harsh as they thought but the first 10 years would be pretty tough.
Life expectancy would lower to middle-age levels and radiation poisoning would kill millions.
Human is a pretty persistant animal that lives all over the globe in the far corners of the earth.

>>7365
>>7364

I mentioned Fallout New Vegas becouse i personaly like the representation of politics and war centuries after the nuclear war with the New California Republic and Caesar's Legion and new states and small regional organizations trying to fill the gap left by the fall of the organized states (mainly in huge continental countries like United States, Russia, India, Brazil, China etc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oXpc-59Cdo
Everyone turning into a scotsman

http://boards.420chan.org/fo/res/6786.php

This should get you started.

Nuclear war or CME will destroy the computer. You are better off printing everything out or having it laser etched into a stainless steel plate so small you need a microscope to read.

You could put everything on a portable hard drive and stick that, a netbook computer, a hand crank generator, a car battery, and an inverter in a faraday cage inside of a fire resistant key opening safe. That might help to ensure it's survival.

>>7352
Got the hand crank, about 5 extra batteries, working on getting AC adapter going, and got the safe box to put it all in too :D And was going to print off multiple copies of a lot of it, and make flash drive back ups of it as well. Also, I already ramp sacked that thread too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hardening#Examples_of_rad-hard_computers
Maybe you could shop about for one of these bad boys. Radiation-hardened computers are usually a few years behind state of the art, but if it'll let you read pdfs and txt files...

>>7359
All the ones I saw were like 10 years behind but you don't need an octo-core computer with 16gb of ram to read a file that saves your life. The proton 400k would do it, nice specs, low power consumption, etc. You still need a display of some sort and storage...

I think a kindle or other e-reader with e-ink would be a good option despite being limited in what media you can use. The battery life and durability of it make it more ideal imo.

I plan on stockpiling a number of vaccum sealed bricks of hashish to use as barter currency in the post apocalypic world+getting very high with.

>>7335
Find out where online RC retailers stockpile their goods. Travel to those places when SHTF, make a raise of kilograms upon kilograms of incredibly potent psychedelics/stimulants/opiates/dissociatives etc.
Post-apocalyptic balls to be tripped yet ladies.

>>7355
Mostly oversees. Good luck getting there and back post collapse.

If you're considering stockpiling any kind of drugs, nootropics such as Piracetam and Aniracetam would be your wisest decision. They're basically realities Mentats.

When the zombies come i'll simply move to a farm with as many people as i can find, build huge walls with resources stolen from construction stores and build a castle and lots of farms where we would grow coffee, soy, tobacco, cannabis, carrots, grapes, sugar cane, corn, lettuces and raise cattle, pork, and poultry.
Coffee would be distritubted freely for scouts and guards, cannabis would be distributed for people to smoke on their free time along with alcoholic beverages made from sugar cane and grapes (like wine/grappa/pisco and rum/pinga) becouse people need to relax and chill after trying to survive in the caothic post-apocalyptia.
Also, cannabis can make hemp which is useful for bandages and alcohol is always need to clean any cut or shit like that (unless it's a zombie bite, of course)

I give you moar.

Get Tough - WW2 Close Quarter Combat.
https://rapidshare.com/files/1429047691/tough.pdf

Open source all-purpose metalwork machine made from car engines.
http://opensourcemachine.org/

Japanese classic from 1913 on night operations.
https://rapidshare.com/files/975929533/NIGHTMOVEMENTS.pdf

Nuclear survival novel from Frugalsquirrels, "Lights Out".
http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/fiction/lightsout1-10.pdf
http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/fiction/lightsout11-20.pdf

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This kind of shit kills me because I rapidly download far more than I can ever read. Ive had a lot of free time the past week and made a dedication to read and take notes on 1 ebook or downloaded pdf every 2 days, and I am still nowhere near through my collection.

AND HERE I AM DOWNLOADING MORE. FUCK YOU GUYS

>>6851
READ WHILE YOU EVERYTHING
its how i do it

This guy has a lot of useful stuff.
http://citysurvivalist.com/index.htm

Field expedient tools and weapons.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3423821939/Field-Expedient_Weapons__Tools__and_Equipment.pdf

Great old book on hunting, shooting and fishing from 1877. Lapsed copyright.
https://rapidshare.com/files/1980124647/Hunting_shooting_and_fishing.pdf

Thanks for all the valuable links.

Oh God, this is just like A Canticle For Liebowicz, every time we rebuild some fucker comes along and nukes everything again.
Well, just as long as we don't end up on that terrible Planet of The Apes.
Wait a minute, statue of liberty?! It was Earth all along!
YOU BLEW IT UP! YOU MANIACS! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

Maybe you should try Proboards, I mod a forum that is total trollbait, I ain't sayin' which one, but we have at least one forum completely dedicated to trolling and spamming us, and two other boards who at times have done little else, plus at least one full-time lurker/troll and his sockpuppets, and a handful of IRL stalkers, and we've gone through maybe four or five versions of our forums, inbetween hacking attacks and bogus complaints, and we had nothing but trouble with EZboards until we got Proboards. They're not perfect, but with noone actively trying to shut you down, you should be fine.

>>7347
I might look into them too. I was hoping to get some actual paid hosting eventually, but, things aren't looking too good for me right now any more :\ It's a pity I can't afford $5 a month

Will be watching thread and will make a new acct when its back up.
Dont pick a shitty host this time :P

>>7350
I'm thinking if nothing else, for awhile, we'll do only a blog and radio show, then get forums later. I WAS using a stolen vBulletin, but they got too mad about it lol. Hostgator let me go all the time. But, I'd say within the next week, SOMETHING will be up again, and within a month, forums and shit too, and we'll b going 100%