Honestly, the first thing I would do is go to my job. I'm a shift manager of a local eatery. I have the keys so getting in the the morning wouldn't be bad, its a 5-8min drive from my house.

It's not something for long term, more just to wait out the first few days and get my barrings right, it has a great supply of food and water, with a basic first aid kit. Assuming the power last for a week, its a good hold point until then. It has a secret roof access in the ceiling that leads to a "tower" that over looks the shopping center. So I feel like that's a good spot to be.

Other than that, maybe traverse into the country side and make my way west. I'd love to go east to the coast, but more people tend to build around the coast so it would be over populated. Going south west, sounds like a solid plan, until you hit the Mississippi river and maybe river boat your way down it.

Taking maybe 5 friends with me, more are welcome but I don't want toooo many ya know?

I play War Z

Things I've learned.

>Hear gunshots, hide until you see who's firing.
>never trust any person, ever.
>when it comes to people asking for help, they are lying
>Run out of ammo, drop the gun. You'll find another one before you find ammo (maybe not one I'd follow irl)

>>11397
your better off going east, more religious people, everyone in the west is atheist and looks out for themselves, they wont hesitate to kill the fuck out of you; while the christian is still afraid of hell

So I play a lot. But I'm not in a clan.

I think 420chan should have a clan so we can play. God knows solo hunting takes more patience than I usually want to give.

We don't need a server, but definitely a clan.

>Tabaqui
>penis name
>dick hoarder
>Ophelia Creo

those are my character names

>>11370

Half the blades on taht picture look like taiwanese shitty mall swords, please tell me that you AT LEAST know which steel they are made of.

>>11370
Are those potato peelers?

>>11371
id only loot the fairbairn, the ammo and the hatchet if i had room...try harder

I'll keep this post alive and post some Apoco-Gear of mine. I have a few toys I keep sharp. Stainless steel pakistani Scimitar, my old stepfather's U.S.A Steel Bowie, a KA bar issue black combat Knife, a regular stainless steel Blade, and My Compount Silent Hunter Bow with additional Arrows. I have a 10pump BB gun for hunting small game as well but I didn't feel it was worthy of being considered a weapon. Just a tool.

>>11416
you have to many of one kind of blade, and idk much about scimitars but a i figure a hawk, hatchet, camp asss, kurki you name it would be more useful.

you have three blades all fixed, all large blades. what do you plan to use to do small carving? what will you use to skin? falay? ect. having multiple knives is useful, but having them all be combat fighitng knives is not as piratical as having say a folding lock back that can used for skinning and food prep. and then another knife used for trigger sticks or any other small carving task you come across.


i like your bow alot though, figure a bow is more useful then a cb.

I think it will be a cool vehicle in a peaceful post-apocalyptic town where people will have it all sorted out and they could use it to travel short distances.

The biggest issue is the weight.

GO GO ACTION BRONCO!

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151801/go-go-action-bronco

This is what this thread makes me think of.

you can sail on land

>>11366

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! OMG!!!! I JUST saw one of those for sale on the side of the road, it was a 4 seater. They were asking $2900 and I just laughed hysterically as I drove past.

Yeah it's great, UNTIL YOU GET RAMMED BY THE BANDIT CAR COVERED IN SPIKES!

>>11335
not 100% true.. Op, I'd advise learning of some natural insect repellents, fire will do I suppose, but who likes to smell like a camp fire all weekend?

you can go down to a feed store and buy like 8oz of powdered sulfur, put that in a sock then bam, most of your bug problems are solved. beat yourself with the sulfur sock, and put up a perimeter around your main campsite. effectively deters most pain in the ass bugs except for mosquitoes and ticks

The only real way is to stock up on a few cans of Jungle Formula before SHTF.
I spent a fair amount of time in the Philippines walking through forests near rivers and unlike the people I was with who were using a variety of methods including garlic and a 'toxin free' anti-insect roll-on deodorant I didn't get bitten once. Don't be fooled by "natural" shit, we invented decent insect replants for a reason.

There is herbs you can rub on your skin that bugs dont like.

>>11323

bugs are dying out, the entire food chain is dying at a fucking ridiculous rate, cockroaches are all you will need to deal with op >.> srsly you ever even looked at post-apocalypse?

>>10782
A fireaxe is significantly heavier than nearly every sword. Many hatchets weigh the same as an arming sword.

>>10785
This is the truth. Though I'd substitute the word "knife" for "blade". It depends entirely on where you intend on surviving. But a steel or even iron edge has been man's best friend for so very long.

>>10789
id probably go with a tomahawk, its small enouugh to use as a knife, easy to remove from the handle, easy to replace the handle and gives you about 12 inches of reach. processing wood would be harder but weight is an issue.

12 ga or a 22

>>10789

Holy fuck do want

>>10789

I want to wear her ass like a mask.

>>8230

>You can stock yourself up as much as you like, but sooner or later you will run out

nigga you dont understand how much ammo i have
>>8242
holy shit is that yours? thats a beautiful seax

>>11352
Crohn's here and I am on steroids to keep down inflammation. Many are used to treat patients with long conditions or post-surgery.

Not all are the muscle roid-rage types (although actually, ones like Prednisolone, that I am currently on can cause mood fluctuations).

Good thread. I'm writing a story and have a lot of people in it who either grow weed or do solvents. Listening to Metro 2033 audiobook, and lol at the weed in that.

1.opiates
2.stimulants (and opiates for the comedown)
would probably avoid stimulants because the comedown would make me slightly unstable. being unstable during the apocalypse won't end well.

>>11354
you could smoke some amp and be awake for a few days punching goons in the face, but you will probably end up discharging a few rounds at something completely inanimate. most drugs have side effects that are pretty strong and although stims give you energy, they put you on a razors edge in terms of paranoia.

e is just going to make you wanna pound some poon and be uncomfrortable due to lack of sound. pcp i have little knowledge of, but ive seen some cases where they get naked and run down the street, last hting you need in SHTF.

if you have an injury you cant ignore, you are going to die. its pretty simple thati f you cant work, and if you dont have people do to it for you, you will die, it will be slow it will be painful, and them opiates will ease all that. at least you go out feeling the best you ever felt.

pot really isnt euphoric in that sense, much better off with some xannex. benzos basically make you ok with everything. might black out, but hey who cares

>>11360
he was talking about using them for the benefits of strength.

Weaponized salvia.

>>11404
if your going to go that route use datura

>Wizards

this movie makes so little sense that i really want whatever the director was on. must be the same guys who made the first lotr movies but pretty much lacking a story. not trying to be rude, i thank you, OP, for these links but... Wizards man... probably something you should watch while tripping. you wont really need to worry too much about the plot.

>>11392
Yeah, Ralph Bakshi, the animated Lord Of The Rings guy, but based on a lot of stuff he was working on with Vaughn Bode before he died. Bode was a pretty fucked up guy, transexual acid-head mystic, died of auto-erotic asphixiation, but a brilliant cartoonist, kind of the Jim Morrison of comics. But it was Wizards that landed Bakshi the gig of animating Lord Of The Rings.

>>11393
i thought i recognized the style. i remember seeing lotr as a child (and that didnt make much sense either). its artistic, ill give him that but as to the story (at least as presented in the movie) there are so many things that dont make sense that i dont even know where to start. its not the style its made in, its the actual script that lacks any red line. its like charles dodgson without a proofreader. stuff happens that makes no sense even with the new imaginary rules.

Threads
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Battle Angel Alita
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeVznLn0ZFI

Demon City Shinjuku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeVznLn0ZFI

Highlander: The Search For Vengeance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUiEkwrjHC4

Robot Monster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wUF0lKLQ3s

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When The Wind Blows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9aHT-IlkHo

>>11394
Well I left the first bit because it seemed redundant to point out that we only started keeping obituaries as a semi-standard until about 300 years ago before that it was mostly just important/forceful people who were written about. Therefore there is no way to obtain an average lifespan, let alone have it skewed by a variable.

Also it was 30-40 years average lifespan, it's only the last 50 years that we've started living past 100.
So by excluding the first part of his sentence I was actually losing one of my points.
So a candid fuck you too you to buddy.

>>11395
I read all of your post and I kinda like you. Do you know what drunken sex parties are ?

>festivals were celebrated at the end of battle, so that the destruction would come to an end. During an annual festival held at the beginning of the year, a festival of intoxication, the Egyptians danced and played music to soothe the wildness of the goddess and drank great quantities of wine ritually to imitate the extreme drunkenness that stopped the wrath of the goddess—when she almost destroyed humankind.

Alcohol was drank for ritual or religious reasons as well.

>>11396

>Therefore there is no way to obtain an average lifespan,

next line

>Also it was 30-40 years average lifespan

you're right we dont have many records, what we do know is many children died at birth

>Alcohol was drank for ritual or religious reasons as well.

and?
ever been to church? ever been to a bar? sporting event? concert? or anywhere? losing a likker license is a fast track to going out of bussiness for a lot of places. fuck we dont do a family get together with out having a case to the side.

>>11399
bone fragments, group graves and science. Mainly the part of science where they have noticed there aren't many people who survived past 40. So by powers of deduction, it is quite simply a low life expectancy in the range of 30-40.

My second point was a play on words from the guy it was directed at. Since his point was so unfruitful I thought I'd do the same....
Also they are mostly semi-religious and full on modern ceremonial reasons. Get your own damn reasons!

Keep bringing it trolls, I don't know why your all up in my stuff on this but I kinda like it.

>>11400
what i was trying explain was that with out alcohol long sea voyage would have been impossible due to lack of fresh water. grog fixed that.

>>11401
Beer and wine was also a way to ensure the liquid was safe to drink
Armies brought it and gave the soldiers generous ratios of it.

>>11063
The lettuces and similar(broccoli included) need cooler temps and a decent amount of water to grow right. Growing them in hotter temps causes them to flower faster and grow more branchy or less dense.

>>11067
Only crisphead lettuce suffer from needing rather delicate ecosystems, the rest are quite hardy and will grow pretty much everywhere, the most proliferate being the leaf lettuce, The most tasty and nutritious being the butterhead lettuce.

And yes, they take a ton of water but really you should have a decent supply of water if you have any chance of surviving in the first place.

Also definitely a raised flower bed with a formed netting and possibly a plastic barrier base as well. a lot of bugs fuckin love lettuce and without pesticides to use those lettuce will be eaten quicker than pies at a football match.

1. drag friend out of the way, essentially hide them and hand them my glock 17, tell them to remain hidden and shoot only if discovered
   
2. find the nearest point of cover with a view of the corner the enemy will be approaching from
   
3. hopefully still have my slr-101s (ak-variant for you no guns folk) and a full drum, if not 30 round mag will have to do
   
4. mag dump them (light them the fuck up) when they round the corner, continue until i am confident they're all dead
   
5. assuming i survive, quickly clear the area around me now that i am aware of enemy presence
   
6. evaluate the situation regarding friend's wound and go from there

>>11385
I suppose I'd drag my friend out of the way of a direct shot, and use him as bait to kill the other three.

id, if i lacked a proper escape route (which is likely), leave my friend as bait (and inform him/her and give them a cue to to when to start a distraction). then, id sneak out and try to eliminate the three somehow before returning to my friend to address their wound.
i was taught this during my military service. the first thing you do is get the wounded somewhere where you can help them. helping them with three guys in close proximity who want to kill us does us no good. he/she must either be moved or the threat must be neutralized first. i would however stuff something (hopefully sterile) in the wound to reduce the bleeding (stuffing shit in an open wound deep enough is not something you cant trust your friend to be able to do on their own).

Walk away. Abdicate. Leave these people with a George Washington-esque farewell speech and go live in the trees. Never look back. Anyone that entrusts one person to rebuild civilization is asking for the same problems inherent in the civilization before and thusly doesn't need me anymore, because they never learned from history. Cannot personally stand to live it again.

a confederation of govenors, every so much territory like a county in the united states would have a govenor. the govenor has total controll over his/her domain. they would only answer to the fuhrer, the emporer of the whole country. the govenors would act as represenatives for there county, and if 2/3 of them can agree, then they could even overpower the fuhrer. all govenors would require to give taxes to the fuhrer either in money "resources" or labor "military", or technology "high intellegnce rate, a collage, or a great inventor". under this type of system i could reach all the goals and focuses. but the main would be to rebuild a perfect world that culturally has giant value on empathy, and humanity, and charity. if i could get a single county to do this then that society is closer to the next step in human evolution.

>>11363

>culturally has giant value on empathy, and humanity, and charity
>govenor has total controll over his/her domain.

Any single person put in the position of power will very quickly fuck anyone gets close.
that's not a euphemism either, it's a biological survival mechanism for alpha males and all that.

your best bet is to create groups of 20-50 people to control certain areas through a TRUE democratic process, (True democracy=everyone has an equal vote on everything that concerns them (Unlike the current democracy which is A vote per person, every 4 years. ))
You then have the main group which is basically all of the other groups combined under one name.
One name to represent a hundred groups to represent a thousand people.

Any movement towards the democratic process we have currently will be met with the individuals being removed from the group and having to fend for themselves.

there will likely be a strong group of crazies who have all the guns, they will probably rape the women and kill the men, which sounds better then dying, so id join them. im not much for rape and plunder but im also not much for dying. im a pretty decent cook so i might wanna brush up on my survial cooking skills, like human flesh.

>>11364
i understand your conscern. the govenors would be eplemented as an early system of goverment like frace during the middle ages. its not perfect by any means but it has proven in history to work. but yes the govenors will be dicks for the first and second generations. after that point the alterative culture change would be in effect. and you might ask how would i get this done. its simple. moral education from birth. in every county there would be a main fort or town. in the fort there is a boarding school from 2 or 3 till like 8 where kids learn to speak then to be nice then read and do basic math. after such the kids get split up into either higher education for the smarter kids. job training for average kids. for the dumber kids the will start physical training for the army or laboring if we are at peace.

>>11338
become a mechanic on diesel and or farm equipment.

regular combustion is nice but having a full blow mechanical back round would be the best. mcgyver he shit outta stuff

>>11339

Yeah, mechanical prowess is pretty useful, especially mechanical diagnosis.

I myself am a chemist, dealing mostly in emulsions. But whenever there's a problem with my car, I go out of my way to fix the problem by hand; I consider it an investment toward my future. My car is a piece of shit too so I get plenty of work with it.

Other than that, as long as you get how cooking works and why you can eat some things and why you can't eat other things, you should be pretty useful.

Yeah, pretty much mechanic, medical, military, and maybe some blacksmithing.

>Life After People.

life...
i get the feeling that if we go we will be taking the rest of it with us to the grave.
thanks for the link though.