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US = Rome 2.0 by Samuel Clombledale - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Shit Gengerridge - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 10:26:18 EST ID:kI8uAvwR No.57310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>mostly descendants of Germanic and Hibernian barbarians
>speak a Germanic language
>mostly Protestant
>government modeled on Iroquois Confederacy
>generally xenophobic and anti-cosmopolitan
>weirdly sexually repressed and afraid of buttsex

Ehh, doesn't sound very Roman to me.
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Eliza Bunderwater - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:43:07 EST ID:wJHd6GfL No.57312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57308

Greeks because Romans sucked at philosophy.
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George Faggleshaw - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 17:52:10 EST ID:PmmRJlWL No.57315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57312
Nope. Most of the Greek philosophers were already studiously being copied by the Church. You realize how much Christianity ties into Plato, right? The "Renaissance" was predominantly rediscovering Roman art and architecture standards over a philosophical revolution.
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Frederick Worthingfoot - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:25:33 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57315
Great example of the Church being a buncho anachronistic retards. Plato was already outdated. With his fucking retarded forms.
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Oliver Bladgedudging - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:57:44 EST ID:Xesxm5NA No.57320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57315

And Rome still mostly employed Greek architects. Also they ripped off Greek aesthetics.


Why did America even give a shit by Phineas Fuckingstone - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:46:22 EST ID:NN93ashj No.56644 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Like what was the point of the cold war? Why was someone else following a different economic system... a threat?
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Basil Fangerbury - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:47:29 EST ID:PmmRJlWL No.57291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56714
I pray for it. End this rotten state of humanity in nuclear hellfire so recovery can begin.
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Phyllis Goodman - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 09:39:56 EST ID:OQPxt2GZ No.57313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Great power politics aren't about ideology, they're about spheres of influence and access to strategic and capital resources. (Any Marxist recognizes this: material conditions determine consciousness, not the other way around. This is why all the early neoconservative intellectuals were ex-Trots.) The Cold War didn't end—pic is the Amerikan media openly celebrating the theft of the Russian presidential election from the Communist Party in 1996. Russia just became that much less of a threat, for a time; enter China and Iran as rising regional powers, and now Russia has the the US foreign policy establishment and the liberals watching from home spooked all over again.

>>56646, all those months ago, said that the Syrian War is "a textbook example of a proxy war straight from the Cold War." No, the Cold War was bipolar: US proxies against Soviet proxies. Syria has been a noisy mess of different nations' proxies, plus ISIS/Daesh. China just announced they're sending special forces there. If you're gonna compare it to a historical circumstance it's more like Serbia prior to WWI—at the crossroads of empires, suspended in a gridlock of alliances and tenuous treaties. They teach you that it was the assassination of the Archduke which kicked it all off, but it's more like it was just getting to be too much trouble not to have a big war.
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Betsy Chorringset - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:32:39 EST ID:yZRHzLTw No.57316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it had nothing to do with economic systems and everything to do with strategic global control of third world labor and raw materials such as oil. the west was scared of russia because the slavic hordes were infinite and smashed the german war machine growing stronger all the while. russia rocketed in power, economic and industrial output, etc. during ww2 and the space race just accelerated things. this is also why us nuked japan, explicitly to demonstrate the weapon to russia to intimidate them. after germany/japan/most of europe including britain was smashed by ww2, only us and russia were left as superpowers. they were the only existential threat to one another. woulda played out essentially the same if they were both communist or both capitalist
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Phyllis Goodman - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 22:54:15 EST ID:OQPxt2GZ No.57317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57316
>woulda played out essentially the same if they were both communist or both capitalist
well, now you're fiddling with the dials past the point of meaningful analysis. The Soviets were still internationalists – Lenin himself had considered the Bolshevik Revolution only a "holding action" until industrialized Germany could be brought into the fold; it was only after the failure of the Spartacist uprising and Lenin's death that the USSR hardened its shell. The century would have played out very differently with socialist blocs on both sides, because the Soviet model of aid (cf. modern China) was very different from the American.
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Frederick Worthingfoot - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 07:24:23 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57317
Lenin had died long before WW2, Stalin was in command now...
...and guess what, Lenin had warned Trosky that Stalin was never allowed to take control of the USSR.


Abyssinia General by Lillian Briblingham - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:32:46 EST ID:MffvHEZt No.57300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's obvious that most of African history is either lumped into one generalized plot line of "primitive city-states" pre colonialism, or overshadowed by Egypt or mostly ignored all together. I want to talk about the most overlooked empire/empires in Africa, and possibly the world.
As far back as D'mt, Axum and then Abyssinia, the nation-state that is now Ethiopia is a deeply ancient culture and history that has played major roles in world history, dating back thousands of years. Before we get bogged down into "starving Ethiopian" meme's, lets take a second to discuss Ethiopian history, and maybe share some ideas about why it might not ever be talked about in our "post-colonial" society.

Let's have at it!
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Lillian Blackspear - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:24:54 EST ID:Gp+wMovZ No.57302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I named my dog Gideon after these guys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Semien

Black AND Jewish? good look getting into any country clubs like that. Stupid Axum got it's shit pushed in by Queen Judith. I bet she was hot.
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Hedda Wavingford - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:23:41 EST ID:MffvHEZt No.57303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57302
I knew there has been ancient forms of Judaism practiced in Ethiopia for millenia, but I never knew it had it's own kingdom! super interesting

bump for more
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Shit Gengerridge - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 10:42:55 EST ID:kI8uAvwR No.57311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57302
>Black AND Jewish?
Ethiopia has a pretty unique history with all three Abrahamic religions from their earliest days. It's been home to Beta Israel since time immemorial, was one of the first official Christian states in the world, and provided shelter to Muhammad's persecuted early disciples during the First Hijarat. And this is after centuries of contact and cultural exchange with ancient Egypt, Felix Arabia, the Swahili Coast and the greater Indian Ocean trading network.

(((Abyssinia))) is one of the big unsung historical pillars of both the Western and Near Eastern traditions.


Movember time by Dance Mania - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:04:06 EST ID:5nGcC7gO No.57309 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Dancing in this November. That´s good history of that epic short film. Watch and enjoy that music well!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq-2gY81os


Cults of St. George by Shitting Blackforth - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 22:42:40 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57307 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone have any resources or material on the history or doctrine of any of the cults of St. George that supposedly existed in the medieval times?

I've recently gotten into esoteric Christianity and the Legend of St. George and his martyrdom has great significance to me. I can't really find much on google.
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Edward Dartgold - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:41:12 EST ID:57IeChQg No.57314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Neo-nationalist detected. Nothing is known about the actual historical figure. nb.
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David Bunman - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:54:09 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You mean there wasn't an actual historical figure. St. George is all fucking bogus bullshit. Probably just some retold Greek myth from the middle ages.


The Oil Industry by Frederick Blaggleham - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:40:04 EST ID:8P+TfceH No.57305 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Easily one of the most influential shadow histories in global economics.

Why isn't it talked about more in schools?

Wars have been decided and aimed at the acquiring this black gold.

/his/ Discord for General History - Just started back up again, join if interested
https://discord.gg/sf9tYGd


Tell me everything about America + (Soviet) Russia + Middle East by Jack Hillyhall - Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:00:45 EST ID:asXAvW71 No.56601 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to discuss ISIS with my friends and family, but eventually we always seem to hit some sort of dark spot of ignorance. Questions like:
  • Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
  • Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
  • Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
  • Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
  • Why does the US fear Iran so much?
  • Why did the USSR invade Afghanistan?
  • What possible gain could there be in turning the ME communist?
  • Why does Israel exist?
  • What's Clinton's role?

This is just a fraction of all the questions I have. Please don't feel limited to just answering these questions. I'm really trying to understand the current situation and how we got here. I'm also looking for a good, mostly OBJECTIVE documentary on the subject (possibly impossible to find?)
Really, I'm just looking for an outline of the past 60 years of history, simple enough for anyone interested enough to ask the question to understand. I realize I could just google it, but most of the times the reasoning they provide is as dry and unhelpful as "it was a in response to this event".

I know this is asking for much, but face it, ya'll fuckers love history enough that you'll enjoy telling me everything you know. you enjoy telling ignoramuses like me what's up.
Tl;DR: read the title and do it.
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Nigel Clandleshaw - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:17:33 EST ID:bNT6UmHB No.57033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I see people just guessing in this thread.
If you want to understand M.E history then you have go back to the imperialism days. After the imperialists left, the area was carved up with no regard to the original national, ethnic, religious factors. The countires became, and still are, primitive authoritarian system of governance. That's about early-mid 20th century shit. A lot of your questions are small time which is kinda bad if you want the bigger picture.
>Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
Do you mean what were the factors to it's ideological birth?
A severe lack of education, poverty, a prominent religions role in the M.E, reactionary radicalization because of foreign interests.

>Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
America indirectly created Al-Qaeda, it wasn't the number 1 intention. The U.S armed the mujahideen against the U.S.S.R. Then the mujahideen turned against the U.S. because of general involvement in the M.E (support of Israel, economic and military influence). ISIS was created by the same source of people, the militant religious radicals from the 80's and 90's , all the while radicalizing new and younger people.

>Why is influence in the ME so important?
Why is the influence in Asia or Europe so important? Because it's territory. There's still east vs. west mentality.

>Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
Iraq was authoritarian, it was only natural to start wars for economic and power gains. He also waged war on kurds and Iran. This is what authoritarian systems do.
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Samuel Chaddlestone - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 03:34:05 EST ID:UqesEraZ No.57034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57033
Good post, Nigel. Excellent work.
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Henry Chedgeman - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:41:22 EST ID:qzwjzNUD No.57283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57032
dude it's just a coincidence
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Ebenezer Wugglebig - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:33:28 EST ID:/EK+cIBP No.57294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57032
This is why middle-eastern genocide is only 99% bad. All of our heroin comes from US controlled Afghan, and don't even get me started on their kush. Fucking uptight Taliban would cut a nigs head off for growing that shit.
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Nathaniel Havingfodge - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:06:39 EST ID:PmmRJlWL No.57297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57294
>>57283
>when Australia grows opium to feed Big Pharma's mass prescriptipon campaign in America, it's fine
>when Afghans do it to fill the demand after Big Pharma got them all hooked it's wrong

>even though both fund terrorism


History repeating itself. by Michael Angelo - Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:46:20 EST ID:mwxNDmgT No.56026 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What can we see from past events in history, that can help us piece together the major events of tomorrow?
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Cedric Penkinfug - Mon, 22 May 2017 21:20:00 EST ID:uOfeITwV No.57188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56093

>buddhist theocracy [...] in response to Australia
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Samuel Hummledidging - Sun, 28 May 2017 02:44:08 EST ID:rJQXt3rx No.57192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>people are whimsical and commit terrible mistakes

over and over and over and over and over until the meteor struck.
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Sophie Gammlesore - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:41:33 EST ID:1oNFPI90 No.57286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mummys, bitches.
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Ebenezer Wugglebig - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:31:44 EST ID:/EK+cIBP No.57293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56026
I got one OP. Those new declassified military docs from the CIA that suggest planting bombs in urban centers and staging shootings to frame Cuba as hostile terrorists might give us some insight into modern terrorism and its ultimate motivations and sources.

If you haven't seen the docs, they're covered here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRdHKn8lULk
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John Wuffingnet - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:42:06 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57293
I doubt that the CIA was directly involved in the creation of modern islamic terrorism, but it's important to remember that Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA to fight communists using guerilla tactics, so Osama probably just took those plans and lessons and simply applied them to killing American citizens after the Soviet Union fell.


ISIS Status Update by Vulvarin Trembling - Thu, 14 May 2015 09:42:52 EST ID:q6QF5w+I No.55391 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Even as a pacifist I hope ISIS gets wiped off the earth.
Let all Bullets and Bombs rain down on these deranged religiots.

What's the status actually?
Are they still in control of large areas?
How much is left of them?
When will they be defeated?
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Archie Blammergold - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 06:53:35 EST ID:R447Jg7l No.56720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55391
>When will they be defeated?
Next Tuesday.
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Pentagon - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:23:12 EST ID:ZLtiXm/t No.56733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
America has Airborne Rangers. Does ISIS?

Don't worry boys and girls, this country will always be free.
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Cyril Buzzwater - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:48:37 EST ID:6PhWCkVP No.56734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56733
>America
>free
lol
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Ophange Pemppelo - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:12:24 EST ID:7KLCRgz2 No.57282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rakka freed by Kurdish-Forves and Mercs!

Good job boys & girls!
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Polly Pittwell - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 10:09:33 EST ID:IPTSCini No.57295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56677
They was some exmilitary christian crusader folks who went to fight with the PKK but left when they found out they were socialists.

Did Isis ever find a new source of income? Last I heard they basically ran out of banks to rob, but this was years ago.


To Catch A Prophet by trustyoursources - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:30:18 EST ID:nIP7Qge7 No.57288 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Animated Documentary on the Prophet Muhammad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9HHrCv5IU&t=2887s

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Was Jesus an Iron Age cult leader? by Doris Fuckingson - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:42:44 EST ID:6FQAmMFX No.57218 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi all (Before I start quick disclosure: I am an atheist but I am here to have an honest discussion and am not here to troll and offend anyone.)

When i read the account of Christ and I read it as a myth that was meant to be examined as testimony I imagine that instead of reading a book Luke, John, or Matthew are at the bar just telling me a story about some guy they knew. This is what a testimony is after all: a story someone tells you. If a book is written in the format of a testimony thus you must not necessarily believe the narrator at all times. Sometimes you can assume that he is lying or exaggerating things just like a stranger telling you a story at a bar would. (Sorry for the long intro but it will help the rest of this make sense... hopefully) So following this logic and using its lens to examine the bible I make 3 assumptions as I read the accounts of Christs life.

1 - Jesus is not divine and has no special powers. (ex. I've never seen a dude walk on water why would I believe a testimony that says someone saw someone do it somewhere.)

2 - No one else has special powers everyone is a human limited by the knowledge and culture of Iron Age Middle East.

3 - Jesus is corruptible just like every other person.

Now with all this in play as I go through the bible I hear a story about a Iron age Rabbi that ran an organization with lots of hall marks of a cult like abandoning families to follow a holy teacher, giving up wealth, and dedicating one entire life soul, body, and mind to the holy teacher. Further this holy teacher showed them a bunch of cheap parlor tricks. The holy teacher was so narcissistic and egocentric that anytime anything other then him comes up he tells you how unimportant it is compared to him and tells you to give up everything just to worship him and serve him.

Further he is reckless and his delusions of grandeur like thinking he is himself a god as well as his corrupt nature like soaking himself in a years wages worth of perfume in one sitting in front of a bunch of people who gave everything up to obey and follow him. The picture is clear. I do not see a wise and loving guy. I see Charles Manson or Marshall Applewhite.

Again, I am not here trying to offend anyone, I am just trying to honestly explain my thought process. Now that I explained my thoughts, what I really want to ask is what are yours? How do you read the bible? How do you see Jesus? What do you think were his motivations and aspirations? And most importantly why do you believe these things.
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Albert Chanderwater - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 03:00:58 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57250
Remember, a fuckload of proto christians died for that community. Bashed to death and shanked to death by fellow proto christians. Proto christians took their apostle cult warfare extremely serioys.
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David Chidgefield - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 00:17:43 EST ID:ueQZvpy5 No.57281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is obvious to anyone with a basic understanding of the historiography of the Bible save Christians who aren't interested in your logic. What's more important is what type of cult leader Jesus was and how he practiced in reality as opposed to what the Gospels lay down. That's more important when documenting the formation of the religion and understanding how it went on to influence people in later ages.
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Simon Fuckingville - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:00:29 EST ID:flID+PsE No.57284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've always had a feeling that whatever smoking gun contemporary records or accounts that prove Jesus was just a simple cult leader have either been outright destroyed by the Catholic Church or locked away in their deepest Vatican vaults. Would not even be surprised if the Catholic Church has its' tentacles buried deep into the field of archaeology as to intercept such evidence before it can be properly analyzed and distributed into the public.
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Simon Gonnercocke - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:25:15 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57284
Impossible. Whatever the Vatican could pay archeologists, doesn't weigh up to the gains gotten from busting the whole thing with evidence.

The very competitive nature of science makes it impossible to create information-limiting conspiracies.
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trustyoursources - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 13:28:31 EST ID:nIP7Qge7 No.57287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Animated Documentary on the Prophet Muhammad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f9HHrCv5IU&t=2887s

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Prechristian germany by Ian Wangerdadging - Sat, 07 Oct 2017 13:17:05 EST ID:BrfXiFVX No.57269 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'd like to learn more about the Germanic regions before christianism. Any suggestions? Cool facts?
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Ernest Drebbleson - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:15:53 EST ID:G431o8lC No.57275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cool fact: German tribes were big on Heracles.

Not so cool fact: Most sweeping generalizations about ancient Germanic peoples are horseshit. Especially the 'muh heritage' garbage but also especially anything that isn't very narrow scholarship.
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Ebenezer Fepperwater - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:19:10 EST ID:XW/jiJlY No.57276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can read Tacitus but it's quite obvious he just collected a bunch of rumors.
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Jenny Choshmod - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 08:15:51 EST ID:BrfXiFVX No.57277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57275
>Cool fact: German tribes were big on Heracles
Did the greek have a lot of influence on the more north-eastern parts of europe?

>Not so cool fact: Most sweeping generalizations about ancient Germanic peoples are horseshit. Especially the 'muh heritage' garbage but also especially anything that isn't very narrow scholarship.

Well i was trying to avoid the whole heritage lovers, I hope there aren't too many here
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Albert Brenkinridge - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 20:54:02 EST ID:G431o8lC No.57278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Did the greek have a lot of influence on the more north-eastern parts of europe?

No. A few Greco-Roman dieties show up in inscriptions around the Rhine. Heracles perhaps more than any other figure shows up all over the place. Consider this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules%27_Club_(amulet)

As influence goes it's trivial. Germans migrating into Roman territory are another story. They were Romanized to varying degrees with some of the nobility learning Greek.
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Basil Tootham - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:44:01 EST ID:lE3doHR2 No.57280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57277
It's more that the Roman's, in their histories, identified foreign deities with their own Roman figured. Mercury, or Hermes, the psychopomp was equated with Odin, iirc. Hercules would probably have been equated with Thor or a Baldr type figure.

This syncretic identification was by no means unique to the Romans, at any rate.


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