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neanderthals by Jack Wummerman - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:28:21 EST ID:jDhu60RY No.57483 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i have just read the whole wiki page about neanderthals
how the fuck did the meme that they were smarter than homo sapiens come about?
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Hugh Harringstodge - Tue, 31 Jul 2018 06:25:52 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'm better than you because I'm >1% a species that the species you're 100% forced to extinction!
They were capable of symbolic reasoning and tool use but so were/are we. I guess it's just an excuse to "scientifically" claim that certain groups of white Europeans are superior to everyone else because their ancestors bred with them while replacing them? Seems a little counter-intuitive.
Matilda Davinghood - Sun, 05 Aug 2018 06:55:10 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Makes about as much sense as basing your white supremacy movement off of claiming to be descendants of the ancient Iranian nomads who invaded and settled down in India
Clara Henningfan - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 10:38:04 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That is a fair point.
Ernest Bebbertutch - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 22:22:00 EST ID:HDtZLnB6 No.57507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To be fair the Indian caste system is fundamentally based on skin color, in the sense that the highest caste is the whitest skinned and the lowest caste is the darkest, and since that theory states that Indian social structure is based on these nomads' ideas it makes perfect sense to base a white supremacy movement on claiming to be descended from the original white supremacists.
Barnaby Gallymut - Wed, 15 Aug 2018 09:53:30 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57508 Ignore Report Quick Reply

a lot of the light vs. dark discrimination in asia has to due with past notions of the wealthy affording the luxury of staying indoors while the poor have to go out and farm all day, getting tan

God this board is dead by Jack Ponnernag - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:48:53 EST ID:putfxC4q No.57503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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C'mon let's talk about cool history shit. circlejerk sucks.

How would the world look if WW2 never happened?
Eliza Pabberlock - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 23:22:01 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
everything would be the same except germany would substitute israel

they would be mad about past shit so everyone in the west would side with their shit
Shitting Tootforth - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 09:10:27 EST ID:fON7i1mk No.57505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nicholas Sessleridge - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:54:21 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I started to write out some shit but after a while I realized every scenario I can come up with is basically just WWII but different, like if Hitler just doesn't invade Poland and everybody backs off from that Japan was already in China and that would have probably lead to some sort of capitalist gang bang of the Soviet Union if they hadn't gone to war with the allies first, basically in every scenario that doesn't involve Germany declaring war on the whole world the whole world probably declares war on Russia, and that ends with millions dead in total industrial warfare then permanent stalemate and global partition until one side economically collapses as soon as nuclear weapons are invented, that or humanity goes extinct in the 40's
So I guess you have to look further back and say WWI never happened, and while it wasn't as inevitable as people tend to make out that web of alliances and balance of power politics that turned a crisis into a world war goes back 500 years, someone's gonna declare war on someone, and if Russia is one of those someone's they're gonna have a revolution and then wow it just keeps happening
So I guess you go back to Napoleon? The last time the great power structure of Europe was about to rewritten, that's how far back you have to go to make something more less equivalent to WW2 and the cold war not inevitable.

So I guess there's your answer OP, how would the world look if WW2 never happened? Napoleon would have won.

Elephant Oral History by Henry Nammlestock - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:30:59 EST ID:oHCCRqeL No.57478 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do you think that elephants pass on stories the way that humans do? I know that they can tell each other of watering holes, people who will help them when they are sick, and areas to avoid when there are poachers around. Do you think the elephants ever embellish stories? Do you think there are elephants telling stories to their children that they heard from their own grandparent elephants? I wonder what it would be like if we could somehow understand and record their stories. How different and similar they are to us.
Charlotte Dendlespear - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:54:41 EST ID:LOqox0NU No.57479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't know Op but I enjoyed the reminiscences of "Elephant Bill" in the book of the same name about his time in Burma working in an elephant camp after ww2
Frederick Clinderstone - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:13:56 EST ID:7bxp95ex No.57480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They still talk about the time when they had to fight a fucking army of sword-wielding monkeys
achibald 1st - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 02:02:24 EST ID:YKaK6jRd No.57502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Good research da pines

Civilization of the Month by Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:21:24 EST ID:7moSACzs No.57339 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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In preparation for going back to school (and to hopefully bolster some discussion on this nice but very slow board) I'm gonna try this thread format. Each month, assuming I don't get lazy and drop this, I'm gonna post a big thing about a civilization, culture, or political entity. I'm gonna try to avoid obvious topics like Egypt or Rome, and focus on stuff people may not have heard of as much. In an ideal world you guys will join in and discuss the peoples and cultures herein, suggest new topics, or correct me if and when I mess up.

That said, it seems fair to me to start with the beginning. This month's Civilization of the Month is Sumer.

"Sumer" as a name comes to us from their Akkadian neighbors/occasional rulers, who called them Shumer. The Sumerians called themselves "ùĝ saĝ gíg ga", meaning "The black-headed people", a name we learned from the cuneiform tablets they wrote on. Unfortunately, we do not actually know what "Shumer" means; when looking (or, more appropriately, glancing) into it, I pretty much just found academic flamewars.

The Sumerian people seem to have been in the area of modern day Iraq since at least 6500 BC, and continued to do their thing until the second millennium BC. Then they were conquered by the Amorites, who in turn were conquered by the Assyrians. However, their cultural impression was lasting, and Assyrian kings would continue to refer to themselves as "King of Sumer and Akkad" for centuries.

The earliest archaeological site we have for the area is called Tell el-'Oueli. A tell, from Arabic tal, meaning hill or mound, is a giant pile of trash from generations of people living on the same spot. This site consists of two thousand years of the Ubaid period (6500-4000 BC), and is characterized by the style of clay painted pottery, unwalled villages of mud brick houses, and tools (mainly sickles) made of clay usually, though occasionally stone or metal. During this time irrigated agriculture, use of the plow, and sailing were developed, and an egalitarian society became more stratified as a noble chieftain class developed as communities became much bigger than your standard village.

Eventually, pottery became produced more efficiently and trade flourished along the rivers of the Fertile Crescent, which led to the rise of the first cities. This period, named Uruk for the biggest one of the time, lasted from 4100 BC to 2900 BC. Uruk was created when two Ubaid villages grew into each other, and during this period became the most populated city in the world, surpassing 50k inhabitants. Cities during this period were centered around a large temple (two in Uruk's case, at the centers of the towns it grew from) and were ruled theocratically by priest-kings (called ensi). Slavery begins to see heavy use.

In 2900 BC we enter the early dynastic period (2900-2270 BC). Around the beginning of this time the wall around Uruk was built, spanning 9km. We see a split from the priest-king system to a relatively secular ruler (still claiming divine right to rule, as kings will), and a council of elder priests. In 2700 writing began to form out of pictographs, and things like clay tokens were used in accounting. At first, cities were separate entities that can't really project force terribly far. However, any towns around a big city were obviously going to have a hard time, and we actually see towns outright disappear as the cities absorb their populations. Around 2500 BC a king from the city of Lagash named Eannatum conquered the area we now think of as Sumer, creating one of the first empires. However, it fell apart after his death. Two centuries later a king named Lugal-zage-si did something similar, and reigned for fifteen years or so until the Akkadians conquered Sumer.

In 2270, the son of a cup-bearer for a Sumerian king (a social position of high standing and trust, I'll note) named Sargon rose to power, conquered Lugal-zage-di's realm, and led him to his hometown of Akkad in stocks. He went on to carve out an empire stretching nearly from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean. His empire would last until 2147, when a nomadic tribe called the Guti overran the place to a degree that the infrastructure couldn't handle. The empire collapsed, and minor city-states made their return.
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 16:58:23 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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According to Chinese annals, in the sixth century CE one of the Funanese vassal states, known as Chenla, gained its independence from Funan and promptly conquered it. However, this is currently hotly contested as the references in said annals are passing at best. Simple fact of the matter is, China was and is huge and generally didn't give too much of a damn about their neighbors provided they still got tribute and no armies appeared on their borders. When recording the annual doings of literally everything going on, some petty uprising over in the southwest gets, like, a sentence. Also suspect is the fact that these records tended to be put together at the beginning of a new dynasty as a traditional way of establishing credibility and legitimacy. So this isn't a record of a thing that happened last year, but of something that happened, in the case of the rise of Chenla, four centuries ago before being recorded in the New Book of Tang. Its credibility is shaky at best.
In any case, according to the New Book of Tang, Chenla ruled for about a century before being split into "Water Chenla" and "Mountain Chenla", before being conquered by Javanese pirates. Clearly the term "pirate" has a different connotation in the Asiatic realm than in the West; if I had to guess, we're looking at a typical gang structure writ large into seagoing organized tribes and confederacies*.
So, that's the Chinese take on it, which was undisputed until about the 1970's, when someone actually started looking around for themselves. What was found was a rise in epigraphy, or stone inscriptions, during the seventh century. It was pointed out that these were generally unique and widespread, indicating that there were multiple independent territories rather than one centralized elite power. Said inscriptions drop off a century later, and the going theory is that the entire region was simply a decentralized squabbling anarchy from the fall of the Funanese mandala until the rise of the Khmer Empire.
The Khmer, or Angkor Enpire was founded in 802 CE by Jayavarman II, who according to inscribed stone records, had been a prince or high noble under the Javanese Shailendras in the southwest (w…
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:01:12 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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During the reign of Suryavarman II, the temple of Angkor Wat was built to honor Vishnu, and the emperor conducted campaigns against the Chams and Viets in the east, which likely lead to his death in the 1140s. A succession crisis kept the empire in chaos until Angkor Wat was sacked by the Chams during a naval battle in 1177. A prince named Jayavarman VII amassed an army, retook the capital and campaigned against Champa for 22 years, gaining large amounts of territory in the process. Jayavarman became notable for not being a huge dick like his successors, who I would guess followed the general short-term-king pattern of usurp, oppress, get usurped on one typically sees in periods of instability. He established a new capital called Angkor Thom, built hella temples to commemmorate himself, boddhisattvas, his parents, and the world at large. He also built another damn reservoir, along with a road system with rest stops and over a hundred hospitals.
After his death, his son Indravarman II gained the throne, and immediately faced troubles from inside and out. He was forced to cede eastern territory to an alliance of the Dai Viet and Champa in 1220, and
western territory to his Thai subjects, who formed their own kingdom. In 1243 he was succeeded by Jayavarman VIII, an avid Hindu who set forth on a campaign of iconoclasm against Buddhist imagery, destroying statues and converting temples to Hinduism. Forty years into his rule, the Khans, now in control of China, began extracting tribute from the Khmers, and upon his deposition in 1295, his son-in-law reconverted the empire to Buddhism.
At this point, the empire began to decline for a number of reasons. Civil wars became the status quo, plague rampaged throughout the area, and it's theorized the authority of the king declined when the adoption of pure Buddhism became state fact: If the king is not a god, he doesn't need temples, and if he doesn't need temples, he isn't using the infrastructure that commanded largescale public labor. As such, a number of the reservoirs were not maintained, and so flood and famine became commonplace. Meanwhile, the Thai kingdom of Sukhothai, who had split off from Khmer in the reign of Indravarman II, was conquere…
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 17:06:04 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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While all this was going on, Pol Pot was also attempting to regain the Mekong Delta, given to Vietnam by the French during the liberation of French Indochina. Thoroughly fed up with his shit, Vietnam invaded Cambodia in 1978 and established a government run by a pro-Soviet group, the Kampuchean People's Revolutionary Party, a splinter group of the early Khmer Rouge who had fled Pot's purges. This government was essentially a Vietnamese puppet state. In response, the Khmer Rouge, a faction headed by Sihanouk, and a group called the Khmer People's Liberation Front (are you tired of generic communist group names yet?) formed an opposition force called the Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea in 1981. Peace efforts were enacted in Paris in 1989, eventually leading to the restoration of Norodom Sihanouk as the king of Cambodia in 1993. Another coup was led by the then co-Prime Minister in 1997, however the country has mostly stabilized now. Pol Pot died of heart failure in house arrest in 1998, the day he learned he would be turned over to an international tribunal.

As an Indianized region, the Khmer people reflect similar interests and ideals of their western neighbors. During the Khmer Empire, a caste system was in effect that differentiated rice farmers and fishermen from kshatriyas (nobles and soldiers) and brahmin priests, as well as a separate artisan class and, of course, slaves. The religion was typically a blend of Hinduism with a growing subset of Buddhism over time, along with the god-king motif of the Devaraja cult.
The people placed great importance in the sacrity of mountains and hills, to the point that their temples were often stepped pyramids referred to as temple-mountains, attempts to construct mountains of their own. These temples were highly ornately decorated, with the temple of Bayon reportedly coated in gold when completed. Said temples have an extremely nuanced number of styles used throughout the ages, and were often built of brick, sandstone and laterite, a type of clay. These temples are absolutely plastered with bas relief sculpture and decoration of all kinds.
The Khmer people engaged in rigorous terraforming of their land, constructing complex reser…
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Clara Fanville - Sun, 22 Jul 2018 02:22:53 EST ID:qAz2oFwD No.57492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
our glorious leader returns to us!
Fucking Faddleman - Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:32:25 EST ID:/5f/+O68 No.57498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why did America even give a shit by Phineas Fuckingstone - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 00:46:22 EST ID:NN93ashj No.56644 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Like what was the point of the cold war? Why was someone else following a different economic system... a threat?
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Lydia Gommertug - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:59:30 EST ID:wty78VYY No.57443 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Except when they did during WWI.
William Brirrymot - Fri, 11 May 2018 16:20:33 EST ID:wwH2bg7s No.57454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because the US didn't give a fuck after WWI and the world went immediately back to shit so Americans realized they needed to establish a framework that benefitted them primarily, under the guise of altruism to make it more palatable to naysayers at home and abroad.
Phineas Duffingmodge - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:18:31 EST ID:IbKa5NOC No.57486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If it wasn't about ideology, why did America oppose socialist regimes that came about democratically (Iran, Chile) or support the Cuban revolution to keep those areas under the sphere of influence? Batista was outliving his usefulness if thee country was already looking revolutionary, why not bump him off and install Castro on the condition that he's sweet with the US and the Russians only sided with Castro after it was obvious he'd win.
Matilda Fadgehedging - Wed, 25 Jul 2018 23:18:09 EST ID:3e1d6uV9 No.57493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
existence is a necessary ingredient for geopolitical dickery
Ian Battingshit - Thu, 26 Jul 2018 00:31:19 EST ID:I/ObPRRq No.57494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the same reason the monarchies of Europe allied against and invaded the new French republic; The royals of Europe saw French citizens overthrowing their royals as a threat to their position and livelihood and attempted to snuff it out as quickly as possible unless it spread to their nations. European royals had more in common together than they did with their subjects (and were often of the same family).

Like the royals of 1800s Europe, so too did the western capitalists view the destruction of the bourgeois class in Russia and China as an immediate threat to their power. These fears real and the threats were real. The French Republic attempted to foment revolution in it's neighbors and the USSR attempted to foment revolution around the world.

It's not about economic differences, it's always been about class struggle.

Trench warfare: Why did the superiours not get shot by their own? by Voltron Vulva - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:39:37 EST ID:8alMSIHq No.57490 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1?

Because running out was clearly allways suicide,
and killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war?
Fuck Subblesan - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:31:09 EST ID:OKHR+WXR No.57491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not like it was complete pointless suicide, their attacks did manage to kill the enemy and people would advance to defensible positions sometimes. No one wanted to be a traitor and certainly no one wanted to be caught and executed as a traitor which would almost certainly happen. I mean what do you think is going to happen afterwards? They'd just give you a new officer assuming someone didn't see you do it and you'd be sent back out unless you killed that one too and eventually someone will see you and apprehend you. Say you decide to slink away, where exactly do you think you're going to go? Almost no one spoke any of the languages of the countries they were fighting in, they would have no way to get back home during wartime and even if they did go back home they'd have to face their family who would call them traitors and not understand what drove them to run away. People held to notions of honor and duty back then too much more strongly than they hold to them now.

Vikings by Shit Suzzlenick - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 11:17:16 EST ID:yEdEzxgG No.56393 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are some good resources on the Old Norsemen, or Vikings? Namely I want to learn about their patterns on settlement around Europe. They could have set up a maritime Empire similar to what the British had in later centuries so it seems, so why was that never realized? They conquered enough land to start it.
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Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 20:11:44 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
See if you can find a collection of the Icelandic Sagas somewhere.

Long story short, the Scandis colonized Iceland in the 10th-11th centuries and quickly found themselves a) in a planned society that educated itself to a high degree and b) cooped together up in longhouses for the duration of the shitty winters, so they started telling stories to each other. This resulted in a cultural renaissance in which a metric fuckton of familial legend was written down, and it's now one of the greatest collections of Viking lore you can find, though it's a bit light on the folklore end just because this was happening after they'd been Christianized.

I found a site here but unfortunately it is all in Icelandic http://sagadb.org/
I have a bunch of translations that Penguin put out, they're probably cheap to find used on amazon.
Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:56:30 EST ID:RBbEukYB No.57477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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weak bait
Polly Minkinpan - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:00:33 EST ID:CK1mjPuU No.57481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thats was probably a Finnish boat that Swedish historical revisionists decided to take credit for.
Barnaby Figglefuck - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 22:19:09 EST ID:siJ9imet No.57489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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russia by Eugene Wusslewill - Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:51:44 EST ID:jDhu60RY No.57488 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Ivan the Terrible
>1530 to 1584
while west europeans underwent the renaissance and painted realistic art russia was literally still giving their kings epithets like were they legends and only made one painting of their first tsar that is literally middle age tier

US = Rome 2.0 by Samuel Clombledale - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Phoebe Trotforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:16:54 EST ID:EMkKTYeq No.57440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. Rome is alive and well friends.
Wesley Sarringforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:15:11 EST ID:XVAFJun6 No.57441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>By all indications, Rome was pretty singular as far as imperial hegemonies go, right?
Not really, no.

The most singular thing about Rome is that non-historian normies have actually heard of it.
Eliza Fablingfune - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:14:49 EST ID:IlyKIasb No.57445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>yadda yadda yadda bunch of LARPers pretended to be roman after it died

Ceasarism is the death of Europe.
Charlotte Gigglebury - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 10:57:19 EST ID:hVN7XbOu No.57468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rome was foundational to Western society, but it is dead.
John Shittingham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:59:18 EST ID:LOqox0NU No.57476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> instead re-branded itself as a religious hegemony which eventually diversified and splintered into multiple independent empires

but at this point what is "it"?

help please by Charles Dallymere - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:04:25 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57461 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I would like to be thoroughly informed on contemporary life in (South) Korea.
Can anyone recommend me books on Korean history from around 1945 onwards, as well as anything more to do with what it's like to live there and be Korean since Industrialisation started, generational differences and such? I don't know where to begin.

I went to my local library and all they had on Korea were two Lonely Planet guides and three war memoirs written by our troops who were involved in the Korean War.
Polly Bommleteg - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:45:45 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I found a load of contemporary Korean ethnographies but they start at $40 and go up to $300 or so.
Thankfully books about North Korea are plentiful and cheap.
Hamilton Dupperfedge - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:45 EST ID:yWuxaTBb No.57464 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Maybe OP should just go live in the North for a while. Maybe he can study there.

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Augustus Fuckingstone - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 10:42:32 EST ID:ReOcdgba No.57458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its bad

Musketmen by Graham Mavingridge - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:47:46 EST ID:KCDGi4tU No.56914 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So in the 17th and 16th century muskets used a matchlock or wheellock mechanism to fire and therefore took a long time to reload, leaving the musketeers vulnerable, so they needed Pikemen to protect them. My question is- why didn't they just attach the pike underneath the musket and turn them into Piketeers?

I mean if you attached it underneath the musket with hoops, you could move the pike along so the musket was at the centre of gravity when you fired it. And obviously if it got to close quarters you could just us the pike like a pike.
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Cornelius Blummerstone - Wed, 02 May 2018 03:56:35 EST ID:UBDjnNcI No.57449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, muskets were relatively expensive to produce and less sturdy than a simple spear. Using them in melee combat would make them liable to break and thus causing the army a large economical penalty.
Phyllis Chindleford - Thu, 03 May 2018 16:48:59 EST ID:ePy5Qkuv No.57450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its a good idea for CQC

Also I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to compensate for the misallignment by knowing that the bayonet is 6 inches or whatever beneath the barrel. Besides that, you can stab anywhere on the torso with them.. pretty big target area.
Ebenezer Turveyforth - Sat, 05 May 2018 20:14:38 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah you can compensate for it when you're fighting unarmed people or fellow gun users.

But if you're up against someone with an actual melee weapon, like a spear or sword, you're fucked. Unless you're some kind of duel master. In which case you probably would use a sword or spear, instead of a bayonet.
Henry Pungerdock - Tue, 08 May 2018 06:07:29 EST ID:vk3jeQdF No.57452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been trained in fighting with bayonets in the military. It's not the alignment so much as the balance. Everything at the bottom near your hand is heavy and your weapon tip is extremely light. The complete opposite of any specialised melee weapon. It's also why sweeping from the back with the butt is a lot more satisfying.
Angus Clenningwill - Wed, 09 May 2018 13:06:30 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>It's not the alignment so much as the balance.

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