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neanderthals by Jack Wummerman - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:28:21 EST ID:jDhu60RY No.57483 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i have just read the whole wiki page about neanderthals
how the fuck did the meme that they were smarter than homo sapiens come about?
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Matilda Lighthall - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:55:14 EST ID:7cZLgdpm No.57585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57508
thats a liberal meme. there is a strong correlation of indo-aryan ancestry in caste

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC311057/
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Isabella Dingersure - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 16:12:17 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57585
>there is a strong correlation of dominant conquering warrior people ancestry in caste
wow no shit huh, next you're gonna tell me all the European nobles are related to Charlemagne
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Lydia Pemmercocke - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 12:35:38 EST ID:ps3M8biu No.57587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
IIRC, Neanderthals possessed a much better memory than Homo Sapiens, due to a large brain (specifically in the area that governs memory). What this meant in practice is that a neanderthal would never have to navigate their route by the stars or by trail markers; they just knew the exact way they had come. Homo sapiens, by contrast possess a much greater capability for creativity, which allowed us to be more innovative.

For instance, a neanderthal would be able to remember the exact placement of food stocks or firewood after a heavy snowfall, without having to dig around for them. A homo sapien would be able to create things to prevent useful items from being buried by snow.

Neanderthals used fire, tools, and had cultural burial practices, but little art.

No one ever talks about how Homo Erectus was faster and stronger than modern humans and were the dominant species of mankind for a couple of million years. We coexisted with them and they could have crushed us, had they been smarter.
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Lydia Danderbury - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 16:44:32 EST ID:xgY/7wut No.57588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57587

>little art

But how can they tell that mammoth tooth got carved by homo sapiens or neanderthals?
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Edwin Brookson - Thu, 13 Dec 2018 17:11:10 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57588
based on where they found it, in a site with neanderthal bones or with tools and other material goods that we associate with neanderthal sites, and vice versa

like you'd expect there's a lot of debate over it, there are more than a few controversial supposed neanderthal works of art that aren't generally accepted as either neanderthal or art by most experts
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Local Buried Treasure by Sidney Fomblelock - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 03:19:28 EST ID:6Jk/Rj9V No.57108 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So lately I've been Indiana Jonesin, looking up lost treasures to be found.

For instance, near me in Illinois, USA, there's supposedly gold hidden in a place called the Sweetin Mansion.

Guy built a mansion around the time of the American Civil War. When the war broke out, he didn't trust banks to hold his earnings, and so hid his stash somewhere on his property. Later on he broke his neck horseback riding and his stash was never recovered.

Folklore says his stash is in a cave guarded by ghosts and rattlesnakes.

I'm thinkin about checking it out.

What treasure legends are around you?
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Phineas Cligglehidge - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 12:02:55 EST ID:9EmCHdWO No.57111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There was a very successful outlaw gang in Florida 100 years ago and a lot of their money was supposedly stashed away in the swamps and/or woodlands. I suspect a lot of people who would look have been deterred by the dangers and general unpleasantness. And maybe I just hate fun, but I'm pretty sure that most outlaws who came into a lot of money and kept doing outlaw shit for years on end probably just spent what they could hold on to and gave away what they couldn't for good will and favors.
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Lillian Peshway - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:02:33 EST ID:4s7lwCBr No.57116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Supposedly Jean Lafitte hid a great treasure in the swamps south of New Orleans that nobody ever found, but with the coastal erosion, I wonder how much is findable anyway
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Cedric Grimfield - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 19:11:47 EST ID:wVlCXJBU No.57122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here in Arizona we have a large mountain range that separates the inhabited phoenix metropolitan area from uninhabited desert wilderness called the Superstition mountains. Legend has it a dutch miner found a huge vein of gold and hid his stash somewhere in the mountain range. I have heard different versions of the story but usually people say he told his sons where it was on their deathbed, but they could never find it, or that he died before telling them the directions, or whatever. I've hiked around there a few times but never found any treasure. People been lookin for years though for the lost dutchman's treasure.
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Hamilton Sodgewill - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:26:00 EST ID:FisBRQum No.57123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57122
A lot of people die out there. Mostly from the terrain and elements, but a lot of murders too.
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Temple - Sun, 09 Dec 2018 15:55:58 EST ID:ufRUsSuW No.57578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm from a town on the Illinois side of St. Louis. There is small party of archaeologists that believe the tomb of Alexander the Great resides in a cave system in Marion County, Illinois. A collector named Harry Hubbard had acquired artifacts that were looted from the site and has put his reputation at risk for getting this idea into circulation. I think it is pretty outlandish, but the concept and the research they did is still worth looking in to. The radio interview with Hubbard is pretty interesting and has all the deets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaPGo4KCrPQ


US exceptionalism myth by Graham Hillypack - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 07:55:03 EST ID:4ndgi8mn No.57528 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why do US retards think that the US won WWII single handedly? I drive uber and had some army guys in my car the other day and they were SHOCKED, MORTIFIED that I suggested that the USSR was both the superior fighting force and were the ones who defeated Nazi Germany (if any one force can be thanked it is indeed the Red Army).

I think its really important that Americans be told that their military is actually shit and they havent contributed a single fucking significant thing to the good of humanity in military terms besides an ASSIST in WWII. The rest of the entire military history of the US is predatory imperialist meandering around the globe and has been a net loss for humanity.

ITT we discuss good ways to teach americans that their military is evil and they are stupid to support it
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Sidney Picklock - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:07:43 EST ID:Q+jVNWOo No.57572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57528
The USSR needed billions in arms from the USA to even function. Also why was it a good thing to destroy Germany, and hand the world over to the Rothschild banking cartel?
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Jessica Tandy needs candy !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 01:27:19 EST ID:ASvy2P2k No.57573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57570
Could you please elaborate? I'm really not sure where you are going with this

From what I do get I would have to agree that the western allies launching a surprise attack on the USSR would have been a tough sell to the troops in Europe and at home.

The USSR launching a surprise attack on the westerner allies would also have been a hard sell because of the extreme war weariness at home and the propaganda that had been pumped out for years showing that the west was their allies.

So basically the likelyhood of either of these secnarios is dubious at best since, unlike in grand strategy games, to invade places you need people on board with your ideas. If not you get Italy in every war ever XD

But if for what ever reason both sides did fight I would still give the win to the US hands down. You make a good point about the logistics having to go over the broken and blasted landscape of Eastern Europe to get at the core of the USSR, and a good point about the logistics getting more difficult the farther the Allies would be from the coast, but I would counter that by simply saying the the allies (the US in particular) had in four years gone from operating in North America and parts of the pacific to operationing on a truely global scale, so the conundrum would be time as it always is in war, at the end of the day the Soviets would have had to cause enough casualties to break western civilian morale before the US could bring overwhelming force to bear.

This topic is very intellectually stimulating, loving the discussion! :)
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Ebenezer Blatherfuck - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:38:37 EST ID:siJ9imet No.57574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57561
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Matilda Tootford - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 03:41:21 EST ID:IlyKIasb No.57576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57573
>but I would counter that by simply saying the the allies (the US in particular) had in four years gone from operating in North America and parts of the pacific to operationing on a truely global scale
And now they have to go from that, which was already a tremendous undertaking, to a deep interior plain where mud, sleet, snow, and hail become factors far more than France or Germany. The Pacific theater was islands. It could be resupplied easily by navy. The European Basin is not so easily resupplied. This is the exact same problem the Wehrmacht ran into during Barbarossa and Stalingrad. Air supply has its limits, even if you have air superiority. The Stalingrad airlift was an unabashed failure. Train lines can be sabotaged, and most were during the Eastern Front as it stood. This leaves trucks as your main supply vehicle of choice, and they have significant drawbacks in a war scenario. They are caught in mud. They break down. They can't carry as much per load, and they are subject to enemy sabotage. America has it better than Germany did due to the sheer quantity of their trucks, but pushing beyond East Germany is an eexponentially greater task that is hindered by the four years of war already fought across Eastern Europe. America's supply lines are also longer than Germany's supply lines are, by many factors of degree already as things stood at the end of WW2. America has mighty logistics, but even America's mighty logistics have a limit, and that limit was where they stopped in history.

The most likely scenario is a costly stalemate that leaves both sides of the Curtain far more bitter than they were in history, potentially leading to a hotter Cold War and even limited early nuclear exchanges.
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Sidney Drunnerson - Sun, 09 Dec 2018 01:28:53 EST ID:2DXgJHis No.57577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They were army grunts not scholars, are you really that surprised? Pearls before swine bro, just nod and drive your car.


Scramble for Africa by Martha Fazzlefit - Fri, 23 Nov 2018 15:34:59 EST ID:qMfO+zFq No.57564 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are there any instances of white explorers into the African interior in the 19th century being captured by African tribes, and subsequently being forced to be the sex slave of the chieftain or if high-ranking warriors?
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Molly Morrychodge - Sat, 24 Nov 2018 09:43:53 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You might wanna go to /ga/ for those highly specific fantasies of yours.
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Sidney Picklock - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:05:15 EST ID:Q+jVNWOo No.57571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, black people basically got their shit kicked in by everyone who ever happened across them. Whites, Arabs, Asians, and Jews all totally dominated blacks all throughout history. Nowadays, as whites are leaving Africa in droves, the Chinese are going to show blacks what real oppression looks like. Unfortunately for black people, the R word doesn't work on the Chinese communist.
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Ebenezer Blatherfuck - Fri, 30 Nov 2018 00:39:37 EST ID:siJ9imet No.57575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Prey


Ancient advanced civilizations by Oliver Birringson - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 09:23:51 EST ID:Vbf0Im91 No.57562 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so yeah pic related is probably not a coincidence
Also this >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoM4BmoDQM&t=1s

Watch the video, it's rare to see a non-bullshit analysis of these subjects
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David Buggleleck - Wed, 21 Nov 2018 11:39:16 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Watch the video
No. Summarize bitch, you're really gonna start a thread without a single actual thought of your own to express?
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Charles Packlecocke - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 08:00:17 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>non-bullshit analysis
>open video
>not only did the lost city of atlantis actually exist, but-
nah
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John Dobblehen - Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:05:00 EST ID:6EKsC9X2 No.57567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57563
>>57566

Ya'll are missing out on a video wherein a guy blows the lid off of big archaeology. Your loss, really.
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Augustus Crimblekit - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 12:56:07 EST ID:0qSO+rVA No.57568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57567
the lid off of big archaeology.
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Phoebe Tillingfoot - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:34:58 EST ID:IlyKIasb No.57569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57567
>le redpill urself
Die shittube filth.


Tell me everything about America + (Soviet) Russia + Middle East by Jack Hillyhall - Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:00:45 EST ID:asXAvW71 No.56601 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to discuss ISIS with my friends and family, but eventually we always seem to hit some sort of dark spot of ignorance. Questions like:
  • Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
  • Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
  • Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
  • Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
  • Why does the US fear Iran so much?
  • Why did the USSR invade Afghanistan?
  • What possible gain could there be in turning the ME communist?
  • Why does Israel exist?
  • What's Clinton's role?

This is just a fraction of all the questions I have. Please don't feel limited to just answering these questions. I'm really trying to understand the current situation and how we got here. I'm also looking for a good, mostly OBJECTIVE documentary on the subject (possibly impossible to find?)
Really, I'm just looking for an outline of the past 60 years of history, simple enough for anyone interested enough to ask the question to understand. I realize I could just google it, but most of the times the reasoning they provide is as dry and unhelpful as "it was a in response to this event".

I know this is asking for much, but face it, ya'll fuckers love history enough that you'll enjoy telling me everything you know. you enjoy telling ignoramuses like me what's up.
Tl;DR: read the title and do it.
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Samuel Chaddlestone - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 03:34:05 EST ID:UqesEraZ No.57034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57033
Good post, Nigel. Excellent work.
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Henry Chedgeman - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:41:22 EST ID:qzwjzNUD No.57283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57032
dude it's just a coincidence
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Ebenezer Wugglebig - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:33:28 EST ID:/EK+cIBP No.57294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57032
This is why middle-eastern genocide is only 99% bad. All of our heroin comes from US controlled Afghan, and don't even get me started on their kush. Fucking uptight Taliban would cut a nigs head off for growing that shit.
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Nathaniel Havingfodge - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:06:39 EST ID:PmmRJlWL No.57297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57294
>>57283
>when Australia grows opium to feed Big Pharma's mass prescriptipon campaign in America, it's fine
>when Afghans do it to fill the demand after Big Pharma got them all hooked it's wrong

>even though both fund terrorism
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Edwin Mullychit - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 22:11:12 EST ID:iTGw4bFO No.57559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
They wanted ISIS to be more sensational. Al-Qaeda was actually a pretty lame boogie man, it didn't have enough lore or backstory for the media to make good fear porn out of it.

>Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
They justify "the war on terror" that is actually a plan to destabilize middle-east to pave way for israels expansion. It's all about using other nations armies, intelligence services and mercenaries to advance israels interests. Pentagon is full of israel-US dual-citizens, and former KGB agents are now MOSSAD and working with the CIA. They make it so that Israel looks innocent all the while other countries around it are bombed to hell.

>Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
I haven't actually looked too much into this war, but my guess is that is was some kind of a test run for new military equipment and tactics that were to be used in the upcoming campaign in middle-east. They were already shifting NATO to be an invasion force ten years before 911 false-flag.

>Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
Saddam, like Gaddafi, Mubarak and Assad were and are not agents of the US-ISRAEL-RUSSIA-CHINA empire but ASSETS, their role is to be dubed into a war with a enemy they cannot win against so their respective nation states will be bombed back to the stone-age and they won't be a problem for the expanding israel, economically or demographically. This was all outlined in the NEW AMERICAN CENTURY white papers released by pentagon again well before 911-false flag operations.

>Why does the US fear Iran so much?>
They don't fear iran, they want you and people in israel to fear it. Iran is controlled opposition too. The tension creates a small cold-war in the region and justifies the huge military-industrial complex on both sides. Iran's revolutionary guards generals all have bank accounts in switzerland and get rich from weapons and dugs sales.
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PreColumbia y'all! by Hedda Fillerstock - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:47:30 EST ID:imeVvWkF No.57216 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I find pre-columbian native history fascinating, the most interesting thing to me is the parallels between old world and new world history. Seeing as how they're completely separated by a massive ocean and had (most likely) no contact, it's really a great study in how humans deal.

Today I'm going to talk about the origins of the Inca and the similarities between it and Rome.
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Sophie Weshbanks - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 05:21:06 EST ID:pACIDeoi No.57239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Continue. I am well versed in the history of my continent, Europe, but know very little about pre-Colombus America, apart from how brutally we devastated the natives there. I do find the art of Mesoamerica civilizations fascinating though.
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Fanny Gendlelitch - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:04:26 EST ID:Redgi3D4 No.57240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am monitoring this thread. Perhaps someone can take over from OP since he seems to be gone
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Simon Baffingnure - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 03:52:12 EST ID:CBu3jKCh No.57279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57217
Is it because they had a system similar to the marathon runners of Rome for sending messages between kingdoms? If I remember correctly messages were conveyed using rope tied into combinations of knots.

>>57238
The word Aztec is a misnomer made popular by a British archeologist in the late part of the 19th century. The people that refers to are citizens of an empire called the Triple Alliance, the conquering head tribe, that of the Montezuma lineage, the Mexica, pronounced Mecheeka. It's actually where the origins of the word Mexico and Chicano lie. They began as a cult worshiping the god of life and death while living under the previous ruling empire, they skinned the princess and a priest wore her skin in a ceremony and they were killed and chased to the swamps and badlands in the area that is now Mexico city. The head priest had a dream that they should settle a spot where they see a golden eagle perched atop a cactus eating a snake. They adapted to the region and started large scale farming operations in the swamp. They had grid systems in the shallow waterways that resembled rice paddies, they made small islands out of sticks, mud and derbies where they grew the traditional mesoamaerican crops of corn, squash and beans which thrived being farmed like this, they also did aquaculture in this system. Excess food allowed for a population boom and through conquest and alliance with two tribes I can't remember off the top of my head because they aren't as iconic. The empire was split into states and one of them was called Aztlan. This is where the British archeologist was studying and he was a blank slate before heading there in an age before the internet. It wasn't an intentional misnomer but it stuck, just like everything else involving Indians in America. Technically I guess the people he was studying were "Aztec" as far as the English language goes but that is like if aliens concurred earth, moved the people around then tried to study humans 200 years later and called all humans Floridians because they happen to land in Tampa. Of course that is even assuming the aliens speak English, but that's a long shot I think. Anyway, I hope that was som…
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Phyllis Buzzfuck - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:33:58 EST ID:ZVxEwvHV No.57526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well the Romans enslaved the Greeks much in the same way the 'Aztecs' dominated the Mayans as a tribute state.

There is much more extant Mayan culture than what remains to the north where the Spanish took a brutally active role. So little care was paid to the Mayan Riviera section of the Main that private British citizens managed to steal Belieze. Highland languages like Mam and K'iche have carried Mayan beliefs through into cellphone times. Oral traditions held in the old tongues is partly how we know of their worldview and cosmology in stories such as the Popol Vuh (pop meaning woven, some scholars claim this is simply in reference to sitting mats upon where the story would be told but it is really a double entendre with the connectedness of all beings).

They also had a lot more culture to purge. They gave us corn! They had been using the number 0 for about 500 years prior to its Indian 'invention'. You know how the parthenon was constructed with wall-length ratios in accordance with the golden ratio? In Guatemala even middle class people built stone houses this way (they call it the way flowers are built). Guatemalans valiantly resisted attempts to destroy their culture. They torched most newly constructed churches through the 1700s. Some rural churches, in order to be accepted by the local populace, were covered in motifs of the old jaguar gods and have not been altered since.

Although the Aztecs lifted enormous amounts of culture from the Mayans, the Mayans may have done much the same from the Olmec, about whom little is known.
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Angus Bollerhutch - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:07:37 EST ID:ixWXBBeN No.57554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57279
>triple alliance
God damn it there had to be another


Trench warfare: Why did the superiours not get shot by their own? by Voltron Vulva - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:39:37 EST ID:8alMSIHq No.57490 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1?

Because running out was clearly allways suicide,
and killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war?
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Fuck Subblesan - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:31:09 EST ID:OKHR+WXR No.57491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57490
It's not like it was complete pointless suicide, their attacks did manage to kill the enemy and people would advance to defensible positions sometimes. No one wanted to be a traitor and certainly no one wanted to be caught and executed as a traitor which would almost certainly happen. I mean what do you think is going to happen afterwards? They'd just give you a new officer assuming someone didn't see you do it and you'd be sent back out unless you killed that one too and eventually someone will see you and apprehend you. Say you decide to slink away, where exactly do you think you're going to go? Almost no one spoke any of the languages of the countries they were fighting in, they would have no way to get back home during wartime and even if they did go back home they'd have to face their family who would call them traitors and not understand what drove them to run away. People held to notions of honor and duty back then too much more strongly than they hold to them now.
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Caroline Sicklebatch - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 16:32:30 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because in WWI young men went to war being told it was a grand patriotic adventure, that they would see the world and be heroes and defend whats Right, this illusion was shattered after they went over the top but most of them never came back from that, and the ones that did were broken men ready to follow whatever order and kill whatever enemy would get them home.

I remember one specific story of the Galipolli landings, anzac soldiers heading towards the beach shouted out the standard war song "Are we downhearted? NO!" to the boats heading the other direction, the response they got was "Well you damn well will be soon"
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Phyllis Buzzfuck - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 02:35:06 EST ID:ZVxEwvHV No.57524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Europe is much smaller than asia, and flanders was pretty treeless through most of the war, so no isolated jungle patrols where you can frag the Loyola U ROTC weenie in abstract self-defense
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Jessica Tandy needs candy !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:59:35 EST ID:dk2vfwv1 No.57544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hind sight is 20/20, trench warfare was the solution to a problem (the problem that mobile warfare in the first few months of the war was unsustainably bloody) however digging trenches created new problems. And yes there were dumb generals but there were also many generals that created solutions to the problems of trench warfare (like the tank, coordinated artillery fire, and small unit tactics to name a few) so it's easy to blame dumb stuffy generals for trench warfare but in reality there were forces at play that forced the hands of generals and nations.

Read up on the siege of Petersburg in the American Civil War and Sipon Kop in the 2nd Boer War.
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Eugene Billerhen - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:08:16 EST ID:hwbZvUc3 No.57545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57490
>>57490
>Why did all the poor blokes not shoot their warmongering superiors in WW1?
because they would be arrested by MP's for murder and get executed

>killing your officer wouldn't be very obvious in the chaos of war?
And then the officer above him would appoint a new officer, basically if you did this then both sides would want to kill you. What I think you should have said was why didn't MORE people dessert, which happened like mad in the AH and Russian armies but every army had a problem with it. so this was not a well thought through line of reasoning


Civilization of the Month by Charlemagne !PXhMv3keyc - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:21:24 EST ID:7moSACzs No.57339 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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In preparation for going back to school (and to hopefully bolster some discussion on this nice but very slow board) I'm gonna try this thread format. Each month, assuming I don't get lazy and drop this, I'm gonna post a big thing about a civilization, culture, or political entity. I'm gonna try to avoid obvious topics like Egypt or Rome, and focus on stuff people may not have heard of as much. In an ideal world you guys will join in and discuss the peoples and cultures herein, suggest new topics, or correct me if and when I mess up.

That said, it seems fair to me to start with the beginning. This month's Civilization of the Month is Sumer.

"Sumer" as a name comes to us from their Akkadian neighbors/occasional rulers, who called them Shumer. The Sumerians called themselves "ùĝ saĝ gíg ga", meaning "The black-headed people", a name we learned from the cuneiform tablets they wrote on. Unfortunately, we do not actually know what "Shumer" means; when looking (or, more appropriately, glancing) into it, I pretty much just found academic flamewars.

The Sumerian people seem to have been in the area of modern day Iraq since at least 6500 BC, and continued to do their thing until the second millennium BC. Then they were conquered by the Amorites, who in turn were conquered by the Assyrians. However, their cultural impression was lasting, and Assyrian kings would continue to refer to themselves as "King of Sumer and Akkad" for centuries.

The earliest archaeological site we have for the area is called Tell el-'Oueli. A tell, from Arabic tal, meaning hill or mound, is a giant pile of trash from generations of people living on the same spot. This site consists of two thousand years of the Ubaid period (6500-4000 BC), and is characterized by the style of clay painted pottery, unwalled villages of mud brick houses, and tools (mainly sickles) made of clay usually, though occasionally stone or metal. During this time irrigated agriculture, use of the plow, and sailing were developed, and an egalitarian society became more stratified as a noble chieftain class developed as communities became much bigger than your standard village.

Eventually, pottery became produced more efficiently and trade flourished along the rivers of the Fertile Crescent, which led to the rise of the first cities. This period, named Uruk for the biggest one of the time, lasted from 4100 BC to 2900 BC. Uruk was created when two Ubaid villages grew into each other, and during this period became the most populated city in the world, surpassing 50k inhabitants. Cities during this period were centered around a large temple (two in Uruk's case, at the centers of the towns it grew from) and were ruled theocratically by priest-kings (called ensi). Slavery begins to see heavy use.

In 2900 BC we enter the early dynastic period (2900-2270 BC). Around the beginning of this time the wall around Uruk was built, spanning 9km. We see a split from the priest-king system to a relatively secular ruler (still claiming divine right to rule, as kings will), and a council of elder priests. In 2700 writing began to form out of pictographs, and things like clay tokens were used in accounting. At first, cities were separate entities that can't really project force terribly far. However, any towns around a big city were obviously going to have a hard time, and we actually see towns outright disappear as the cities absorb their populations. Around 2500 BC a king from the city of Lagash named Eannatum conquered the area we now think of as Sumer, creating one of the first empires. However, it fell apart after his death. Two centuries later a king named Lugal-zage-si did something similar, and reigned for fifteen years or so until the Akkadians conquered Sumer.

In 2270, the son of a cup-bearer for a Sumerian king (a social position of high standing and trust, I'll note) named Sargon rose to power, conquered Lugal-zage-di's realm, and led him to his hometown of Akkad in stocks. He went on to carve out an empire stretching nearly from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean. His empire would last until 2147, when a nomadic tribe called the Guti overran the place to a degree that the infrastructure couldn't handle. The empire collapsed, and minor city-states made their return.
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Fucking Faddleman - Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:32:25 EST ID:/5f/+O68 No.57498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57470
> HOLY FUCK

> OP DELIVERED
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Hugh Tillingfoot - Mon, 20 Aug 2018 04:48:39 EST ID:RuJIH9Wv No.57509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Praise OP, thankyou
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Priscilla Clandlenun - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:21:55 EST ID:iTUH5a8Q No.57512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57341
>In trying to add some framing to 6000 years of Mesopotamian history, I traced the religious evolution

More than a few do not realize the extent to which Mesopotamia is distinct in religious demographics until now. Two whole religions, the Yezidis and Mandeans, have a large majority located in Mesopotamia. The Church of the East, or Nestorian Christians, have been based there since the 5th century and had churches from Cyprus to China in the Middle Ages. There are 'Jewish Kurds' who, along with the neighboring Christians, speak (or spoke) the language of Assyria from the time of Ashurbanipal. Three of these have had some presence in Iran/Persia, but not the Yezidis whose traditional areas seem to all be in Mesopotamia. I've read that the original pagans were still in existence during the Arab empires. And there are particularly unorthodox Muslim "Alevis" in the northern periphery.
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Martin Dashmotch - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:11:59 EST ID:stKj2uKJ No.57518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57473
Seriously the greatest posts this board will ever know.
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Shitting Fosslepedge - Sun, 30 Sep 2018 18:00:03 EST ID:/JUDCgXP No.57535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57339
Very cool OP. Fellow History Major here too.


US = Rome 2.0 by Samuel Clombledale - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:32:47 EST ID:6GEx+/2g No.57289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you don't think the US is the cultural and philosophical continuation of Rome get the fuck out of my face.
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Wesley Sarringforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:15:11 EST ID:XVAFJun6 No.57441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57439
>By all indications, Rome was pretty singular as far as imperial hegemonies go, right?
Not really, no.

The most singular thing about Rome is that non-historian normies have actually heard of it.
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Eliza Fablingfune - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:14:49 EST ID:IlyKIasb No.57445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57439
>yadda yadda yadda bunch of LARPers pretended to be roman after it died

Ceasarism is the death of Europe.
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Charlotte Gigglebury - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 10:57:19 EST ID:hVN7XbOu No.57468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rome was foundational to Western society, but it is dead.
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John Shittingham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:59:18 EST ID:LOqox0NU No.57476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57439
> instead re-branded itself as a religious hegemony which eventually diversified and splintered into multiple independent empires

but at this point what is "it"?
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Ernest Sepperhall - Sun, 23 Sep 2018 03:56:35 EST ID:MU/sd7Ce No.57527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The neoclassical architecture and eagles... Yeah I guess it could be, with some modifications like abolition of slavery and equal rights for women. Germany did the same thing and got their asses kicked in ww2 and that sort of symbolism is stigmatised. The FBI and CIA use eagles as their symbols. Instead of looking for prostitutes under the arches at the Colosseum people look for them under bridges or online. It's kind of a Renaissance/enlightenment era thing philosophically. Can be argued that there is a parallel socially to Rome as a warring state before its decline, terror attacks sort of resembling barbarian vandal tribes sacking rome.


The 'war on terrorism' by Albert Hullypet - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:07:30 EST ID:Ytx8gGHk No.57520 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How would we be able to 'end' the war on terrorism?

The romans couldn't defeat the barbarians.

Now today terrorists are invading europe and trying to enforce Sharia law while painting themselves as helpless victims. Is this the new method of modern warfare? They are invading from the inside by the looks of it it appears they're doing it right too.

how would we finally win this so called war on terror.
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Martin Pommlefield - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 16:01:23 EST ID:I0gh1mqC No.57521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The war on terrorism is an effort by the United States and close western allies to justify a global military presence, especially in key strategic regions like central Asia and the seaways around Arabia. The primary purpose of this is geostratgic rivalry with the other potential Eurasian superpowers in Russia and China, as well as a parallel domestic program of fear mongering.
Contrast and compare with the red scare and the cold war policy of containment.

It ends when the Americans lose the will or means to keep it up, but there is no actual enemy to defeat.
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Albert Hullypet - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:55:52 EST ID:Ytx8gGHk No.57522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57521
Wouldn't they use the CIA for that?
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Albert Suttingpig - Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:37:40 EST ID:GnLfL9+w No.57525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pls go back to your fox news forum.


Shays' Rebellion by Shit Fishdock - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 02:10:52 EST ID:M0xFym5C No.57514 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Daniel Shays, Eli Parsons and Job Shattuck did nothing wrong and Samuel Adams should have been hung from a tree.
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Eugene Horringpudging - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:49:23 EST ID:ifP+KLNs No.57517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
explain your position better then i will respond


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