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Periods which need more exposure? by Thomas Gunningshit - Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:53:53 EST ID:mHFutvZ2 No.56963 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Medieval Byzantium certainly doesn't get enough credit
>stole silk from China
>greek fire
>essentially bought the huns off as permanent mercenaries

What periods do you think need more exposure? What times do you think its important for the average person to know more about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZK-WqZMB8
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Fanny Pushdit - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 21:44:48 EST ID:YEmgtMe4 No.57009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56963
Ethiopia, and the Horn of Africa in general. They have one some of the oldest recorded histories in the world, had a pivotal influence in all three Judeo-Christian religions, and created some absolutely stunning architectural wonders. And yet nobody in the West ever talks about them or cares to look into them.

Also, archeology in Nigeria needs a serious shot in the arm. Seriously, the place is like a condensed petri dish of human culture and artwork like few other places on earth. Between Nok, the bronzeworks, the walls of Benin and Sungbo's Eredo, Ile-Ife, nsibidi and the Ekpe secret society, the possible "Lost Tribe" connection to Israel, the over 500 languages spoken, all leading to their rapid rise to become the economic behemoth of Africa, the country is a potential goldmine of archeology just waiting to be discovered. And that's just the stuff we know about with what little has been done so far; it's mind-boggling to imagine just how much more archeological treasure and knowledge could be unearthed from that relatively small corner of the world.

My hope is that if both countries develop and grow as rapidly as they are now then they can start to become safer and more amenable to archeologists and tourists. But certainly, based on what we already know about them now, it's a shame they don't get more exposure.
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Edwin Bonkindetch - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 01:45:47 EST ID:oY5SR2vX No.57016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56970

i think in its most early primitive stage, items were moved tribe to tribe until they reached the end of the line. once this ricocheted back to its source, the concept of trade probably became more solidified and maybe gave rise to nomadic traders
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Phyllis Brunkinham - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:30:22 EST ID:ZG4s1pP5 No.57031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57009
I've been to the horn of africa and it's an utter shithole. Nothing of value
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zxz - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:07:05 EST ID:hJDXnZvF No.57039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ancient colombia and mexico

all the old world shit is greeeat and all,

but people in central and southern mexico and colombia were doing mushrooms and dmt for thousands of years. no one gives a fuck though thats the part thats so mind numbing to me.

art is cute and all but what can you actually experience and take hold of or apply from these other places. theres very little that you can turn in to your own experience.
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Hamilton Brugglebury - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:48:56 EST ID:pjKBi0qU No.57040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57039
>no one gives a fuck though thats the part thats so mind numbing to me.
Because that culture was so thoroughly raped, there's so few people around who truly know and very, very scarce records. This was deliberate. Destroy all knowledge of these peoples because it was inferior to the glorious might of Spanish Catholicism.

I had this super hippy dippy sociology professor in college. He told us this story about how he was doing research in South America (he did his dissertation on Liberation Theology) and he rode up to a group of very rural people on a horse with his companions. And they had never seen a white man before, and so appears this man with long hair and pale skin and they think it's Jesus Christ himself. Pretty whacky stuff. But yeah, the reach of the Spanish Empire was long my friend.

But beyond the Drugs dude. Like in Peru, the Incans were literally the Roman Empire with a massive sprawling connected empire of roads and cities (i think it was more complicated politically). So they got fucked cause they got there late. This was like, an ongoing process in the 1500s. It's not like Ancient Egypt where these ruins have been


Tell me everything about America + (Soviet) Russia + Middle East by Jack Hillyhall - Tue, 22 Mar 2016 19:00:45 EST ID:asXAvW71 No.56601 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to discuss ISIS with my friends and family, but eventually we always seem to hit some sort of dark spot of ignorance. Questions like:
  • Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
  • Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
  • Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
  • Why was the US buddies with Saddam? Why did the relationship go south?
  • Why does the US fear Iran so much?
  • Why did the USSR invade Afghanistan?
  • What possible gain could there be in turning the ME communist?
  • Why does Israel exist?
  • What's Clinton's role?

This is just a fraction of all the questions I have. Please don't feel limited to just answering these questions. I'm really trying to understand the current situation and how we got here. I'm also looking for a good, mostly OBJECTIVE documentary on the subject (possibly impossible to find?)
Really, I'm just looking for an outline of the past 60 years of history, simple enough for anyone interested enough to ask the question to understand. I realize I could just google it, but most of the times the reasoning they provide is as dry and unhelpful as "it was a in response to this event".

I know this is asking for much, but face it, ya'll fuckers love history enough that you'll enjoy telling me everything you know. you enjoy telling ignoramuses like me what's up.
Tl;DR: read the title and do it.
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S\Gh0st\ - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:50:42 EST ID:cnjBxcGC No.57029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, Al-Qaedas ideals are strongly linked with anti-imperialism: The institution was created first as a war front against USSRs troops in afghanistan. After that, as USA decided to help Kuwait against afeghanistan, Al-Qaeda turned against the uncle sam, wich in the past was its ally and financier. As you can see, Al-Qaedas ideals are more political than religious, although the bastards are not secular.
I would say that their goals are not as evil as their methods.
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S\Gh0st\ - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:52:01 EST ID:cnjBxcGC No.57030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56601
Well, Al-Qaedas ideals are strongly linked with anti-imperialism: The institution was created first as a war front against USSRs troops in afghanistan. After that, as USA decided to help Kuwait against afeghanistan, Al-Qaeda turned against the uncle sam, wich in the past was its ally and financier. As you can see, Al-Qaedas ideals are more political than religious, although the bastards are not secular.
I would say that their goals are not as evil as their methods.
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Augustus Shakelock - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:20:38 EST ID:ERYmyDk/ No.57032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56601
Don't forget the Opium!
SWEET SWEET DELICIOUS NUTRICIOUS OPIUM!
For all your consumer needs!
Safe for adults, safe for kids, safe for animals, safe for livestock, safe enough to convert to your favorite concentrates!
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Nigel Clandleshaw - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 18:17:33 EST ID:bNT6UmHB No.57033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I see people just guessing in this thread.
If you want to understand M.E history then you have go back to the imperialism days. After the imperialists left, the area was carved up with no regard to the original national, ethnic, religious factors. The countires became, and still are, primitive authoritarian system of governance. That's about early-mid 20th century shit. A lot of your questions are small time which is kinda bad if you want the bigger picture.
>Why is ISIS about religion, unlike Al-Qaeda?
Do you mean what were the factors to it's ideological birth?
A severe lack of education, poverty, a prominent religions role in the M.E, reactionary radicalization because of foreign interests.

>Why did America create Al-Qaeda and ISIS? Why is influence in the ME so important?
America indirectly created Al-Qaeda, it wasn't the number 1 intention. The U.S armed the mujahideen against the U.S.S.R. Then the mujahideen turned against the U.S. because of general involvement in the M.E (support of Israel, economic and military influence). ISIS was created by the same source of people, the militant religious radicals from the 80's and 90's , all the while radicalizing new and younger people.

>Why is influence in the ME so important?
Why is the influence in Asia or Europe so important? Because it's territory. There's still east vs. west mentality.

>Why did Iraq invade Kuwait, and why was it important enough to cause the Gulf War?
Iraq was authoritarian, it was only natural to start wars for economic and power gains. He also waged war on kurds and Iran. This is what authoritarian systems do.
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Samuel Chaddlestone - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 03:34:05 EST ID:UqesEraZ No.57034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57033
Good post, Nigel. Excellent work.


I Sincerely Believe... by Ernest Binninghotch - Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:05:48 EST ID:gG9f1duV No.57013 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It seems that throughout history, there have been more mass rapes, sexual slavery and forced breeding done to white people by Muslims than the other way around.

Others say that this is not true, but they only say this because they do not have the emotional strength to admit it. But you might know. So if you can, please prove me wrong.
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Thread was locked by: Quetzalcoatl
Reason: yeah, no.
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Molly Fankincocke - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:26:03 EST ID:4RNy1lDa No.57021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57020
Are jews white?
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Edward Sunnerfield - Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:45:20 EST ID:fVshiL/m No.57024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57019

They didn't have a lot of people across the world though. They usually looked for local allies who did all the dirty work for them and just a few soldiers and policemen to keep up the law.
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Isabella Bammerfetch - Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:12:13 EST ID:nLTvpZ14 No.57025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57020
>No such thing happened the other way around; in fact, there is no evidence that Crusaders raped women en masse.

Hahahahahaah, are you retarded?
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Alice Chorrylark - Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:23:13 EST ID:UpNsw6rc No.57027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57013
your question should be on yahoo
ignored nb
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Ian Blubbleman - Sun, 18 Dec 2016 07:35:16 EST ID:pACIDeoi No.57028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even IF what you're saying were true (which I don't think it is), let's make out a big of atrocities Christians have done

Colonized the just about the entire fucking world
Killed hundreds of millions (over a billion maybe?) through enslavement, ethnic genocide, famine, war
De-industrialized and intentionally underdeveloped nations all over the globe
Supplanted countless local cultures, forced capitalism upon everyone, tried to force Christianity on everyone
Is more or less the reason why the world today is in such a dire, perilous shitty state

I could go on. Equally, I could make a big long list of the positive contributions to humanity that the West has done, and I could make a similar list about both aspects for Muslims. The point is that you can't make sweeping generalizations with no context or facts and expect it to hold up as an argument or people to actually take you seriously. I don't even know why I'm trying, there's pretty much nothing anyone will say that will make you change your mind. You might act like you're willing to "discuss" but in actual fact you're just an uneducated tool.


Indian History Thread by Edwin Bricklehork - Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:50:48 EST ID:OE1PGRtd No.55613 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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INDIA
I don't hear nearly enough about Indian History, 'specially since they invented shit like our number system and how the ancestors of many Indians are so intimately linked with the ancestors of most Europeans
Like, you know, Sanskrit, Parsi, and Greek share a relatively recent ancestor, 'specially compared to languages like Basque and Spanish or Finnish and Swedish.

So, what d'you think is NEAT about India? Some shit from the Harrappan Civilization? Some fucking thing the Buddha did, or Jainism, or maybe some Hindu mythologies? Babur? The British East India Company? War with Pakistan?
Tell me what you know about the worlds most populous democracy!
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Frederick Hucklechid - Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:09:40 EST ID:4RNy1lDa No.56995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56983
nice necromancy bro.
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Fanny Pushdit - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 21:54:38 EST ID:YEmgtMe4 No.57010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>55613
Definitely Harappa and the Indus Valley Civilization. Motherfuckers had indoor plumbing, a mysterious written language that we can't decipher and those trippy-looking stepwells that India loves so much.

It's a shame the British had to fuck up their archeological sites for bricks and shit, though.

>>56995
Bro, this board is slow as fuck. Some necromancy is to be expected.
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Jenny Blizzlesun - Fri, 09 Dec 2016 10:56:35 EST ID:nLTvpZ14 No.57011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember reading that when the English cunts invaded India, a prince or general with a liking to rocket artillery BTFO'ed the fuck out of the English, until the English zergrushed him like a bunch of Zulu's on crack with superior numbers of malnourished soldiers.

That sounds so weird, when you think about colonial wars, you imagine technologically advanced Westerners crushing technologically inferior numerically superior natives, not technologically inferior swarms of Westerners trouncing technologically superior natives.

And then the English took that Indian rocket technology and used it to bombard the Americans.
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Angus Trotfoot - Tue, 13 Dec 2016 08:55:29 EST ID:nLTvpZ14 No.57022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57012
Do you have a name or something to go with that image mate?
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Isabella Bammerfetch - Thu, 15 Dec 2016 06:14:27 EST ID:nLTvpZ14 No.57026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57023
Thanks man, that has been wondering me for years.


Churchill by Phineas Gangerwell - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:17:19 EST ID:jg4fL/jL No.56882 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So Churchill has been on a lot of people in the UK's lips on account of him now being on a lot of people in the UK's notes.

There's been a lot of backlash from the people who link him with the Bengal famine, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943 and blame him for their deaths. There's also stuff like this popping up http://hitlerorchurchill.info/ (try it, it's interesting). Plus there was his collosal fuck up during WW1 with the Dardanelles.

ALL THAT SAI I can't bring myself to hate him. People of history don't exist in a vaccume, and are products of (and in Churchills case, shapers of) the time they live in. I'm not denying that the Bengal famine was an atrocious loss of life and as a Scottish person I've never been a fan of Britain or the British Empire, but part of me just allows it. This alcoholic infinitely quotable badass that embodied the attitudes of the nation he ruled at the time. Even if the nation was allowing massive amounts of Bengalis to starve to death...

I don't really know what I'm trying to say here, I'd like to think it isn't so simple as "He's a product of his time so that makes it ok" but I can't really explain it otherwise. I'm no apologist to the atrocities commited on his behalf but I just find myself unable to get that pissed off with him. I've heard there's people refusing to accept the £5 notes with him on it.

So what do you guys make of him?
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Emma Bodgeham - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:57:51 EST ID:3Ays09so No.56883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56882
I'm a big believer in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatic_ethics so, you know, there's that. Maybe they just didn't know better (to put it simply).
On the other hand, the more distant something in in space and time, the harder it is to care about it.
A father being shot in Syria is just as tragic, objectively speaking, as my grandfather dying. Maybe even more so, since he had young children and a life ahead of him. But you'd never fault me for being more sad about my grandfather dying in his sleep than about a Syrian I've never met being killed, because my grandfather is closer to me. Or if you just want pure distance: We all get a lot crazier when there's a terrorist attack in our country, but nobody gives a quarter fuck for suicide bombers in Pakistani markets.

I feel about people judging historical figures like I feel about people being judged by retroactive laws: It doesn't make any sense to vilify someone for doing what wasn't wrong at the time.

So that's how I feel about him in a sort of moral sense.

As for not accepting £5 notes with Churchill on them (isn't it illegal to refuse official currency in shops?), I can better follow that as an objection to having Churchill on notes at all.
The things or people on our currency, no matter where we are, are chosen deliberately to represent the country and tend to have images on it that symbolize what that country is about, and while the note you pictured is about Churchill as a leader during WW2 carrying Britain through to the other side, it's impossible to entirely disentangle that part of Churchill from his (by our current standards) fuck-ups.
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Beatrice Gommerbanks - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:43:57 EST ID:v+MjOh7X No.56885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Churchill pretty much sucked at everything except for riling people up to keep fighting against Hitler.
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Shitting Necklechidge - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:51:34 EST ID:FBZRkRuk No.56893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56882
Here's my american perspective:

ANYBODY is better to have on money than royalty. Fuck royalty. How could you complain about churchill being on a banknote, but not raise an eyebrow/teacup to elizabeth being on currency? What the fuck has she done to get that privilege? She was just born by the right parents, and that's it. Fuck her to hell and back. I hate the queen, just like every other real american.

Now Churchill was probably a blue blood for all I know, but at least he had to be a cunning politician to get to be prime minister.

On a related note (ha!), the US is getting rid of Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill. The 20 is a great bill to have - not too big, but can still buy a shitload. But Jackson was a genocidal cunt that hated central banks. So I'm very glad we're getting rid of him.
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Cedric Worthingridge - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 03:21:07 EST ID:wlEcThYX No.56900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A blood thirsty toff who participated in wars of empire and genocide from Africa to Germany.
Fuck that piece of shit, I'm glad he's dead.
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Fanny Pushdit - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:46:01 EST ID:YEmgtMe4 No.57005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56882
Fun fact: in addition to being an irascible drunk, Churchill also suffered from severe manic-depression. He referred to his depressive states as his "black dog".

http://theconversation.com/winston-churchill-and-his-black-dog-of-greatness-36570


Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf by The Boat - Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:03:29 EST ID:SqGhCnYX No.56996 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just watched over this weekend all of "the Great War"s week by week one hundred years ago in the First World War youtube videos, and I must recommend them because of the high documentary level quality and the details of how each week of the War unfolded.

https://m.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar

One of the most interesting people from the war that even I didn't know much about was the Austrian Cheif of the general staff
Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf

Specifically his consistan overestimation of the Austrian-Hungarian ability to wage war. I suppose he wasn't that different in that respect from the likes of Italian General Luigi Cadorna. But Hotenzndorf really couldn't see that economical the Hapsburg Empire was incapable of supplying and supporting a modern army.

Does anyone have more info or books about him to recommend? Especially if they have to do with operational planning and the logistics of the Austro-Hungarian war effort?
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Edwin Foggleford - Tue, 29 Nov 2016 02:00:57 EST ID:GBTnxtdM No.56997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah, total buffoon. It's interesting when you begin to see Indy get genuinely frustrated by him at one point. Does he not launch like, a fourth assault into the carpathians in winter or some shit? It's terrifying how clueless nobles were able to get themselves into such influential positions back in the day. That applies to all WW1 armies but the A-H specifically.
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The Boat - Tue, 29 Nov 2016 03:30:16 EST ID:SqGhCnYX No.56998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56997
Three attacks into the carpathians in winter with cardboard boots and summer uniforms, to rescue the garrison of 100,000 at the fortress of premesyl they lost in those attacks 800,000 men... this was modern war <gravity laden pause>.

Yeah isn't this show great? He seems to get frustrated with herzedorf and Cadorna the most.


Axis victory in WWII. by Cyril Fodgehall - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:28:39 EST ID:WsaYJeul No.56866 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is the most objective assessment of how an Axis victory would have been in the post-war years?
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Phyllis Gummleridge - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:51:16 EST ID:AF8FGi+H No.56899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56897
Good to know we have an expert. Opinions by practicing historians on the outcome of those plans is rather less certain.
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Cyril Sucklehutch - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 00:54:37 EST ID:8hSk1rC9 No.56902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56875
Just pulling this out of my ass, I haven't looked at any numbers, but:
Suppose Franco joins the axis, invades Portugal. Germany/Italy launch invasions of Gibraltar, the Azores, and Canary islands. Those bases are used to raid allied supply ships.
Italy sends troops to Lebanon, Syria and Iraq to help them throw the Brits out and invade Palestine and Egypt from 2 fronts.
Axis now have total control of the Mediterranean and can send enough supplies across to take Africa's west coast, the allies no longer have the bases necessary to get around the cape.
Middle East doesn't fall, European Axis doesn't have oil problems.
The allied assault on Africa fails as they can supply far fewer troops than the axis and can't attack from Egypt.

Suppose Japan doesn't attack the US, opting instead to concentrate on China and pacific colonial possessions.
With Axis control of the middle east, there's a very direct supply route for the Japanese to send rubber to the the axis for steel, middle eastern and Balkan oil.

When Barbarossa starts, both countries have fewer troops to dedicate, but fewer supply/production issues and are much closer the USSR's industrial base.
Japan can now enter USSR from two fronts, one in west china aimed at the Urals, one in the east that just captures USSR's eastern coast.
Iraq invades Iran, opening up another front with USSR.
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Eugene Finningwork - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 06:34:06 EST ID:a9WtbNjd No.56982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56902

Why would Franco invade Portugal? They were pretty much fascist and only waited for a decisive defeat for Britain to join the axis.
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Fucking Hublingshaw - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 07:52:16 EST ID:wbo9Cc1W No.56984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First I need you to objectively explain how an egotistical drug addict who demanded final say on all military decisions despite being shit at it, wins a world war?
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Polly Clibblesudging - Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:09:48 EST ID:HXj7PgQx No.56987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56866
US probably would be speaking German right now.

-Said every fucking person ever.

Ugh, so annoying.


Musketmen by Graham Mavingridge - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 19:47:46 EST ID:KCDGi4tU No.56914 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So in the 17th and 16th century muskets used a matchlock or wheellock mechanism to fire and therefore took a long time to reload, leaving the musketeers vulnerable, so they needed Pikemen to protect them. My question is- why didn't they just attach the pike underneath the musket and turn them into Piketeers?

I mean if you attached it underneath the musket with hoops, you could move the pike along so the musket was at the centre of gravity when you fired it. And obviously if it got to close quarters you could just us the pike like a pike.
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Hamilton Goodshaw - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 21:53:48 EST ID:TL6DdA5o No.56919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because evolutionary pikemen were rapidly becoming obsolete. They were able to hold off cavalry that attacked with sabres but once the horsemen switched to shooting at infantry formations with their pistols the pikes just took useless casualties and it was considered a better option to have more muscets than pikes.
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Graham Blathercocke - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:25:53 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56918
This.

Bayonets aren't good at all. They're dumb unwieldy slow unbalanced short spears. They also weigh down your gun, and make it harder to aim. They make reloading harder.

That's something they don't teach in videogames.

The only reason why bayonets became commonplace is because spears and pikes stopped being used. Suddenly an unwieldy bad slow unbalanced short spear became a lot better. Because it no longer had any competition.

Another point is that in the 16th and 17th century, all musketeers had their own sidearms, typically a sword and a dagger. So if they found themselves in a melee, they'd drop their gun, and use their sword.

But as the 18th century progressed, soldiers armed with guns became less professional, and more like retards with a gun. Replaceable retards with a gun. And no one is going to spend money on making swords worth more than a retard with a gun. So it became economically viable to just stick a knife on a gun, and give it to some retard and tell him to shoot other retards.
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Jack Blonkinhock - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 21:51:26 EST ID:bw6ZNCus No.56931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56925
Well the first bayonets were plug bayonets that sat in the barrel of the musket. It still amazes me they didn't work out that was a bad idea right from the very start.
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Cornelius Shakebury - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:33:24 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56931
It does make sense from their perspective.

One of the main reasons why bayonets make for such shitty weapons, is that they're misaligned.

The thrusting blade doesn't line up with the general line of the weapon, making it imbalanced and a liability in melee combat. That unbalance will result in slower attacks and bad accuracy, and someone with an actual spear, or a sword can capitalize on that immediately, since they have much better balanced weapons.
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Augustus Sudgepet - Tue, 15 Nov 2016 01:38:58 EST ID:BBViIOJc No.56976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56916

yeah your strength or adaptability are irrelevant when it comes to timing, whenever a threat is advancing, a defense/counter must be executed simultaneously. with mixed arms you may have less of each weapon available but there is a greater time range of group readiness and less openings of vulnerability


Related to Veterans/Heroes? by Pentagon - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:23:37 EST ID:j8QhAWnX No.56735 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm new to / his /.
I was wandering if anyone here is related to any military veterans, or someone who died a hero, and what their story is.

My grandfather was a Staff Sergeant in F Company, 22 Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Division in WWII.

He went in on Utah Beach on D-Day. Fought in 4 campaigns; Normandy, Rhineland, Hurtgen Forest, Battle of the Bulge, and Central Germany. He received 3 purple hearts, and Bronze Star for bravery in his unit taking the city Luxembourg. The 22nd IR received two Presidential Distinguished Unit Citations. He was the leader of the VFW in my hometown until his passing in 2007.

Like any good American, I hold high regard and respect for all of those who have served, and would like to hear some other stories.

Ric Flair unrelated but pretty American tbh.
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Reuben Benninghall - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 00:05:58 EST ID:f/IVyCNt No.56968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56735

Every male in my family from that Generation served. I'll talk about my paternal grandfather.

He was an odd man, and I disagreed with a lot of the conclusions he drew, but he had some insights and he survived.

He hated the stupid, blunt ass standard foxhole shovels assigned to the US Army Infantry on the western front, so he stole a functional one off of a tank when the crew wasn't around. They had a tank, he at least deserved a decent hole in the ground. He cut leg holes in his sleeping bag so that if they got ambushed in the middle of the night he wouldn't get stuck trying to shimmy his way out of the canvas, he could just hike it up and get ready to go. He once spent the night on a recon mission sleeping in a pile of warm manure in order to hide from a Nazi patrol. He was part of the division that liberated the city of Bitche, on the far east of what is now again France. He drafted in 1944, so he and everyone else from his cycle were pretty convinced they were gonna be the ones sent to fight the Japanese after Germany kicked it, until the Bombs got dropped and the war ended.

I don't think he ever really came home. Honestly, as tough as he was I think his life was ruled by fear, but on the home front unlike in the war you don't have anything to attack, you just live with the vague knowledge of a threat. I guess it was the first generation of living like we all do today and think is normal, but they weren't ready for the fucking international psy-ops the world was gonna play on with them after they weren't needed anymore. He made it all the way to 90.

He didn't like president Kennedy, but he was horrified that he was assassinated all the same, because he knew that wasn't how it was supposed to work. He lived the rest of his life convinced there was a second shooter.

He thought the movie WaterWorld was awesome
He was fucking superhuman at playing chess, I never did once beat him in 28 years and I'm not terrible myself. Even my dad could barely keep up.
He told me once that there was at least one lesson you could learn from everybody, which was ironic since he didn't trust anyone. But I suppose he meant that even if you didn't like or trust people you could learn things from them.
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Nathaniel Sigglefuck - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 06:39:17 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56968
>He thought the movie WaterWorld was awesome

Whaaaaaaaaat?
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Molly Dunninghore - Mon, 14 Nov 2016 02:01:21 EST ID:k5UrPwXz No.56972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56971
I know, the only thing he was right about...
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Molly Dunninghore - Mon, 14 Nov 2016 02:02:09 EST ID:k5UrPwXz No.56973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56971

I know; the only thing he was right about.
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Albert Clayford - Mon, 14 Nov 2016 07:49:49 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56972
>>56973
I like it too, it wasn't great - but good enough to be enjoyable, and it has sights that are just... wow. Unique.

But an old man digging a weird scifi film like that... that's pretty cool.


The men who fuck goats by The Boat - Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:11:43 EST ID:EUhXVZGQ No.56945 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So like psychic powers are bullshit, but are reverse psychology powers real?

>like did the Air Force do this in the 50's? Or was that movie complete horse shite?

Like what if man?

My theory is that we did look into that kind of shit in the Cold War because we looked into everything.
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Sidney Clayshit - Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:27:39 EST ID:XLSgC62Y No.56948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is not strictly what you're talking about bout still pretty interesting/ totally insane:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Earth_Battalion
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Martha Chonderlock - Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:35:54 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If I recall correctly, Soviet aligned double-agents successfully convinced the US government to invest millions possibly billions of dollars into bogus research into mind control, ESP, psychic shit, UFO's, remote viewing and all kinds of tinfoil shite. The double-agents would say something like "The Soviets learned how to mind control people with LSD! The Soviets have developed telepathy!" and given the era of science rapidly advancing into really weird territory, the US government and intelligence agencies just believed it.
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Cyril Bablingfedging - Fri, 28 Oct 2016 13:41:55 EST ID:JW5iN93X No.56950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there are certain genetic dispositions which allow for the factor to be true in qualities observed which at the normal circumstance of what is currently known does not rectify its posibility , which is cool , but remains as it is , its wildly imaginative up until you actually put together ways of application
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Edwin Worthingwell - Sat, 29 Oct 2016 08:13:47 EST ID:lW/tbAqQ No.56951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56949

The mind control stuff was taken over from the Germans after WWII. They'd drug people with mescaline, put them into a really uncomfortable room and the interogator would say things like "This is really bad, they know you know and if you don't tell us we're all in deep trouble" while pretending to freak out himself. The Americans just switched to LSD and tried to fry their test subjects' brains even harder.
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Frederick Clendlepin - Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:29:18 EST ID:drL7sWsr No.56952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56950
nj?


The big M by Hedda Hammerwadging - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:45:23 EST ID:PqJIYKVF No.56862 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/his/, what's the deal with Mussolini? Was he cool? Does he just get trashed because he was a fascist, or was he actually a dic?

pic related.
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Ebenezer Grandfield - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 02:43:56 EST ID:drL7sWsr No.56937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56935
greek-speaking italians (greco-italians..? wiki says Griko people) blow my fuckin mind.
magna graecia duuuuuude
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Betsy Pashcocke - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 18:44:41 EST ID:QloOc9co No.56938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56935
>The formation of a united identity out of a host of disparate populations is a fucking nationalist fantasy
Well it's not exactly a wacky idealised dream. It worked out pretty well for Germany, France, Spain. The unification of Italy helped get rid of the monarchies and the papacy and install a republic. You can say "who are the italians" but the milanese were happy to liberate themselves from Austrian rule and join "the italians".

I view nation states as a result of progressive republican thinking in the 18-19th century. What is it you have against it? We're not talking the clumsy post soviet mushing together of Yugoslavia here, where there had been genocides committed by members of the union less than 50 years before the union took place. The unification of Italy was welcomed by the inhabitants of "Italy" and allowed Italy to become a modern european state, with all the benefits of life that come with that.
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Cornelius Snodwill - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 15:05:34 EST ID:o53eXY05 No.56939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56938

>Italy
>republic

They were a monarchy until 1943 when the king fired Mussolini.
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Jenny Crozzlekedge - Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:14:10 EST ID:6GUxSp3q No.56943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56934
Okay, so what about all the other places you named? You said parts of china in your last post.
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Caroline Grandridge - Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:21:17 EST ID:8hSk1rC9 No.56944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56943
Those are all places Italy invaded and annexed before and during WWII, many of which were neutral or axis powers.
It's silly to paint a fascist power that claimed it was their people's right to conquer other people as some benign victim who just wanted autonomy for their people.


/int/craft - imageboard community minecraft server by Esther Barddock - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 09:10:13 EST ID:1o6WsWXm No.56929 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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  • IP Address: intcraft.online
  • Server Version: 1.8.8 (any client from 1.8, 1.9 or 1.10 can join the server.)
  • Chien's World Map cropped to Eurasia
  • Towny, Brewery, meme recipes, word filter and more..
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Archie Chebbleville - Sun, 09 Oct 2016 20:43:40 EST ID:4RNy1lDa No.56936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm in, you should post this in VG too
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Jenny Buckleded - Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:09:03 EST ID:4zlanzOr No.56942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could you explain what this game is?


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