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An overlooked moment in United States civil rights history... by Maury V. - Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:16:42 EST ID:LHQsPwwj No.54605 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /his/

Question for the Americans. While in history class, did your schools ever talk about why Dr. Martin Luther King jr. was in Memphis, Tennessee? I put together a little series that talks about his involvement there and what went down before his death. I interviewed people that were involved in the event that brought him to Memphis. I have two more parts after this one.


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Sidney Snodhall - Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:34:03 EST ID:a5Jn0/OK No.54727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You took the video down? I'd really like to see it...
Phineas Dusslespear - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:18:33 EST ID:2maiH/8r No.54750 Ignore Report Quick Reply

the government took it down
Walter Gezzlebury - Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:05:44 EST ID:Bl32Bn74 No.54754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had to do a civil rights essay and I picked Bayard Rustin because I had never heard of him. He is often forgotten about because he joined the communist party in his youth and he was gay. He was the one who organized the march on Washington and mentored Dr King. He was the ultimate behind the scenes person.
Clara Worthingfuck - Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:30:51 EST ID:VnQOwfR3 No.54971 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Dude what the fuck, OP report in are you still with us and of sound mind? Post the unedited documentary you had up. If YouTube took it down with zero explanation I'm sure it was gold!

Show us your work, put it on Vimeo or something!
Thomas Handledot - Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:08:31 EST ID:kf2xn6FY No.54996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why are they offline?

History of africa by Whitey Fanwater - Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:19:13 EST ID:T+mfvWll No.54803 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yo, I want to learn about the history of africa. It's a huge fucking continent, where do I start?
Any suggested books would be appreciated.
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Edwin Clullyhitch - Thu, 12 Mar 2015 21:51:12 EST ID:cvvJxnzw No.54917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ethiopia is actually one of the most well-off countries in Africa and the best place to go for any prospective tourist (second only to Morocco, but that's more of a Muslim/Arab nation, culturally speaking.) They even have a large tech sector in their economy.
Beatrice Gevingford - Sat, 14 Mar 2015 00:51:58 EST ID:1dqhNfWz No.54926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watch The Upright Man. It's a documentary on youtube about Thomas Sankara's government in Burkina Faso, and the great many strides in human development made there before his anti-imperialist pan-African message was silenced with a French, and some say American-backed and funded coup against his rule
Ian Nicklefield - Wed, 18 Mar 2015 20:15:21 EST ID:dztj7eIi No.54958 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What would you recomend when it comes to dry academia when it comes to the history of Nigeria and how colonialism shaped the politics of the region
John Puvingshit - Fri, 20 Mar 2015 03:04:17 EST ID:F0dk4o8U No.54963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol OP looking for a history of Africa - yes, lets look at a history of colonial interactions with Africa.. inb4 derp africaids warlurd need us derp lulul teh only good part of afric is fud lul

real life: OP I'd highly suggest the book "African Perspectives on Colonialism" by A. Adu Boahen for late 1700s-early 1900s and David Birmingham's "The Decolonization of Africa" for mid 1900s - present-ish. I don't have many good resources for early modern-ancient history, and the Birmingham book isn't perfect, but they both give good overviews of recent history
David Genningford - Sun, 22 Mar 2015 22:29:45 EST ID:d5nTGJ1X No.54983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you talking ancient history?
That will be a challenge. My husband is actually from Ghana (West Africa) so I am always asking him Q in regards to Ghana's history....It's weird, but little is known and it's rather complex. I don't think much was written down. I find it surprising that he himself, who spent 20+ YRS in Ghana and who is very educated, knows little about his own people's history...I do know In his country there are like 50+ languages (mostly variations of dialects) and multiple cultural groups like the Astanes, Fantes, Inzumas, etc. At one time there was some sort of Kingdom accompanied with tribal warfare. There are also historical stories known by many Ghanians like the "Golden Stool". The history though is just not very concrete, linear, and varies depending who you talk to you. I've looked for history books concerning Ghana and have found very little. If I go to Ghana I may find more useful sources, but am not sure.

Africa is vast! So I would take it country by country or by North/west/south/east Africa.

You will find more out more info related to recent history (Independence from EU powers -1900s). "The Shadow of the Sun" is a fantastic book! Beautifully written by a Polish journalist who spent large amounts of time in Africa from late 1950s to 1990s. Check it ouuuuuut! Will def. give you a better idea not only on Africa's history, but it's cultural and it's problems.

Take care OP

History Projects on Lego Ideas by Priscilla Daddlelock - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:47:18 EST ID:sTBTr3xT No.54855 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your favorites from Lego Ideas and vote for them.

Here is an example: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/95531

If they get enough votes, Lego will potentially sell them worldwide.
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Phoebe Pittwell - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 15:59:56 EST ID:6XX1id6w No.54858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No icebergs included?
Nell Samblehire - Tue, 10 Mar 2015 02:58:17 EST ID:PyWETaty No.54907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how well would a replica of Oswaldls rifle be received?
Martha Gocklehare - Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:54:53 EST ID:38vf8/h3 No.54909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lame. It would be better to have a lego grassy nole, book depository, etc.
Polly Buzzhood - Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:34:53 EST ID:itzmTrpm No.54912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lego gun sounds boring. Like >>54909 said, ANY other object from the assassination would be better. Personally, the presidential car would be cool.
Henry Huckleville - Sun, 15 Mar 2015 20:41:59 EST ID:+re1zLuf No.54937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lao Tzu & Confucias by Booty - Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:15:33 EST ID:CPqiaM9l No.54790 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is this even considered historical fact?
Faggy Pellyfoot - Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:58:24 EST ID:8C/ks7G3 No.54791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Considered by whom?
Isabella Muddlestadge - Sun, 22 Feb 2015 04:46:13 EST ID:CPqiaM9l No.54792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just answer the question.
Jack Baddletut - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:19:59 EST ID:Vxn3KaCO No.54844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"historical fact"? Absolutely no way to know the "facts" of who actually wrote the Zhuangzi. But there's really no other candidates being put forward, so yeah... it's either an actual person named Zhuang Zhou or a guy who might as well be named Zhuang Zhou because he did the stuff we credit Zhuang Zhou with and have no idea what his real name was. So yeah, kind of, but not really, but yes.
George Gibblestone - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 19:22:00 EST ID:CPqiaM9l No.54847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What I meant was that had they, or what ever group is labeled as one for convenience had some kind of knowledge of each other, did they?
Nell Samblehire - Tue, 10 Mar 2015 03:00:58 EST ID:PyWETaty No.54908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you might want to delve into a bit of grammar study before you tackle the social sciences.

What do you know about Khazars? by Shit Pittfield - Mon, 09 Mar 2015 03:30:11 EST ID:1XB8QBNH No.54894 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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100-600 AD – an incredibly Evil Society Emerges in Khazaria:

Khazarians develop into a nation ruled by an incredibly Evil King with an ancient Babylonian Black Arts occult Oligarchy serving as his Court. During this time Khazaria become known to surrounding countries as thieves, murderers, road bandits, and for assuming the identities of those travelers they murder as a normal occupational practice and way of life.

600 AD – The Ultimatum is delivered by Russia and other surrounding nations:

The leaders of the surrounding nations, especially Russia have had so many years of Complaints by their citizens that as a group they deliver an ultimatum to the Khazarian King. They send a communique to the Khazarian King that he must choose one of the three Abrahamic religions for his people and make it his official state religion and require all Khazarian Citizens to Practice it and socialize all Khazarian Children to practice that faith.

The Khazarian King was given A choice between Islam, Christianity and Judaism. The Khazarian King chose Judaism and promised to stay within the requirements laid out by the surrounding confederacy of nations led by the Russian Czar. Despite his agreement and promise the Khazarian king and his inner circle of Oligarchs kept practicing ancient Babylonian Black-Magic also known as Secret Satanism. This Secret Satanism involved black-magic occult ceremonies featuring child sacrifice after “bleeding them out”, drinking their blood and eating their hearts.

The deep dark secret of these secret occult ceremonies was that they were all based on ancient Baal Worship, also known as worship of the Owl. In order to fool the confederacy of nations led by Russia which were watching Khazaria, the Khazarian King melded these Luciferian Black-Magick practices with Judaism and created a Satanic hybrid secret religion known as Babylonian Talmudism. This was made the national religion of Khazaria and inculcated the same evil that Khazaria was known for before.

Sadly the Khazarians continued their evil ways robbing, murdering those from other surrounding countries who traveled through Khazaria. Khazarian robbers often and often attempted to assume their identities after they murdered these visitors and became masters of disguises and false identities, a practice they have continued even to this very day along with their secret child-sacrifice occult ceremonies which are actually ancient Baal Worship.

1,000 AD – Russia and the surrounding nations have had enough and take action:
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Nigel Crimbletet - Mon, 09 Mar 2015 04:49:37 EST ID:SyNkGsIo No.54895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I bet you can't find a legitimate historical text with this information.

This reads like a fucking Final Fantasy storyline. Get a grip.
Wesley Murdgold - Mon, 09 Mar 2015 04:54:43 EST ID:I3nvkJU0 No.54896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I bet you can't find a legitimate historical text with this information.

Because Jews own the second hand books stores and destroyed them all?

>Khazaria long served as a buffer state between the Byzantine empire and both the nomads of the northern steppes and the Umayyad empire, after serving as Byzantium's proxy against the Sassanid Persian empire. The alliance was dropped around 900. Byzantium began to encourage the Alans to attack Khazaria and weaken its hold on Crimea and the Caucasus, while seeking to obtain an entente with the rising Rus' power to the north, which it aspired to convert to Christianity.[17] Between 965 and 969, the Kievan Rus ruler Sviatoslav I of Kiev conquered the capital Atil and destroyed the Khazar state.

>Beginning in the 8th century, Khazar royalty and notable segments of the aristocracy converted to Judaism

Nigel Crimbletet - Mon, 09 Mar 2015 14:37:09 EST ID:SyNkGsIo No.54903 Ignore Report Quick Reply

So basically you admit that there's no real evidence for what you posted, and then you post some historical information about the Khazar state that has nothing to do with the OP and is common knowledge to people who are interested in history?

A Khazar state existed, a lot of its rulers were followers of the Jewish religion, and it was conquered by Kievan Rus. AND?

The Ottomans destroyed the remnants of the Eastern Roman Empire. That must mean the Byzantine emperors were child rapists who were well-versed in the dark arts.

Actually no, that's stupid as hell, because sometimes countries just like to wreck other people's shit.

last viking king Harald Hadrada by Cornelius Murdbury - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 18:06:49 EST ID:d3FFXVqU No.54745 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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does anybody know of any good books about Harald Hadrada
Angus Masslestatch - Wed, 11 Feb 2015 02:33:58 EST ID:NAR5czOU No.54753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eliza Burrytodge - Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:41:44 EST ID:qwX81aJ3 No.54890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What rune system is this? Looks like Elder Futhark with some additions

Could this be proof that Leviathan existed? by Martin Sockleham - Sun, 01 Mar 2015 12:29:56 EST ID:2qY1Cluk No.54830 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well, according to a new video that was released on YouTube a while back, a full skeletal remain of Leviathan was found via Google maps in a land-locked area in Saudi Arabia that is currently unexplored near Jabal Al Lawz (Mt. Sinai) in the wilderness. The coordinates for it goes as follows (and go to google maps and paste this in) 28.5634N, 35.2808E.

The things that bible got right is so accurate that it's kinda creepy and even as an atheist I cannot deny what it actually said about this monster dragon-like thing. The bible said that it was massive (the google map serpent was estimated to be 1,900 feet long and a football field at head-length) and it also said that it was to be found near Mt. Sinai in the wilderness in where the children of Israel roamed. What do you guys think?

And the craziest thing about it is, is that at the head of it, you'll see that it has a T-Rex like mouth and head/face structure if you look close enough. It's pretty freaky. (and btw, I added a photo just in case if you're too lazy to look it up yourself).
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Polly Commerwodge - Fri, 06 Mar 2015 02:23:00 EST ID:Jo+wq3h+ No.54876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>You never actually looked at the source of the 616 idea did you? Little hint: It`s pretty obvious that 666 is what it said.

Both numbers are attested too in multiple variants of the text, but 616 is indisputably the "original"; 666 was a modification probably meant to make it thematically closer to Jesus' 888.

See this? Get fucked.
William Fengerstotch - Fri, 06 Mar 2015 20:51:36 EST ID:ghL0on2d No.54881 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It`s not indisputably but I admit I was basing my knowledge without that discovery in mind. However, a 2nd century scholar, that lived before that manuscript, affirmed that it was 666.

Basically, I`ll admit it may be 616 but I definitely won`t go as far to say it IS 616.

My apologies for the extreme doubt.
Alice Bardforth - Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:16:06 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.54884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Of course some 2nd century church father would affirm it was 666. Nero was already dead. They were composing the Bible out of a dozen of Biblebooks all with different messages. And they wanted to create a Biblebook with one clear doctrine to keep the people together.

Just change 616 to 666, and pretend that the Number of the Beast refers to a future event instead of something that already happened.
Eugene Hollyhood - Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:24:17 EST ID:QTlnuNRf No.54886 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But most scholars agree that Revelations itself was written 30 years AFTER Nero`s death.
Lillian Dadgehood - Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:34:53 EST ID:xxrdlezD No.54892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Believing anything ancient humans wanted other ancient humans to believe

docos by Faggy Pickdale - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:45:08 EST ID:hz/7Y50i No.54491 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can you guys recommend me any history documentaries? Any topic, just as long as its good.
Obviously books are way better, but I want something to watch while stoned and I struggle to read when I'm baked.
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Jack Trotfoot - Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:48:56 EST ID:WO0qELX5 No.54819 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Watch anything by Adam Curtis, his latest, Bitter Lake, is about the postwar history of Afghanistan. But they're all brilliant (mostly focusing on rise of Thacherism and its consequences)

Here is one about the Khmer Rouge's Year Zero, filmed right after they were booted out
(Find The Missing Picture if you are interested in this, brilliant film)

Here is a great one about the history of modern warfare (circa the 80s):
Phoebe Fenderwell - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 00:53:07 EST ID:28lwhIxG No.54822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You reminded me that I haven't watched The Killing Fields in a hot minute
Walter Blaffingtudging - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:41:47 EST ID:fcz8yKyC No.54825 Ignore Report Quick Reply

'bout old testament history and how the evidence stacks up
Phyllis Sablingbitch - Sun, 01 Mar 2015 17:19:41 EST ID:WO0qELX5 No.54832 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It has been years since I've seen that as well, I wonder how it stands up. I should download it instead of allegedly studying.
Cornelius Boblingbire - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:11:09 EST ID:MmADfetu No.55938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure if you're into art history at all but Robert Hughes's Shock of the New is an interesting introduction to some of the major themes of the 20th century and it's free on Ubuweb.


nb for slightly off-topic

Historical Perspective by Rebecca Bruddlefield - Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:46:27 EST ID:i3v/xUzP No.54594 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do you think that the world has been increasing in complexity historically, or just that we tend to see more complexity in recent history than in older times?
Is culture changing faster today than it did historically? I mean, today we can often discern between something being culturally of the 1980s and culturally of the 1990s. Do you think people in the 1450s could do the same of their own culture in 1430 and 1440? Or was history more monotone, culturally, and has been increasing in rate of change and complexity?
Whitey Drecklebanks - Mon, 12 Jan 2015 01:36:00 EST ID:YIeqrGhq No.54602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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A) We're closer to the recent past, so we understand it better and it seems to change more.
B) Culture and the times simply moved slower in the 15th century (for example) because ideas traveled slower.

You can see how something like the proliferation of the printing press led to the Protestant Reformation, as people were able to print their own bibles which undermined the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. Or something like the telegraph allowed for more colonial penetration into Africa in the 19th century. Or the radio allowing Presidents and Dictators to speak directly to their public in the 1930s. Or television in the 1960s to bring the horrors of Vietnam directly into our living rooms and cause a mass protest movement. And so on with the Internet, then with cell phones, now with smartphones.

Ideas exist like genes (actually this is where the term 'meme' comes from). They evolve and change over time as they are passed from one mind to another. The faster this happens, the faster the ideas evolve. That's why something like 4skin's /b/ was such a great incubator for incubator for internet memes in the mid 2000s. It moved so fast and so swiftly that if an idea wasn't strong enough it was dead before it even got started. But if it was a good idea, it morphed 100s of times and almost took on a life of its own, even escaping the primordial soup out into the real world.
Lillian Gopperbuck - Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:40:52 EST ID:xC0G0X3F No.54711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd say yes, because of communication.
Just look at the past, we had some really incredible technological advancements but they pretty much disappeared for hundreds of years because they didn't have the means of printing and distributing nor the same cultural ideas regarding the spreading of knowledge.
Fanny Dremmerkark - Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:40:07 EST ID:DCtNjPsq No.54717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shut the fuck up
Phoebe Dracklehodge - Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:36:09 EST ID:cOGCFmRG No.54784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>only the strongest memes survive

Historical coincidences by Betsy Fanhall - Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:19:31 EST ID:19oTHlaT No.54628 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The great fire of london happened in 1666.
666 is the mark of the devil, hell is thought to have been fiery.

ITT coincidences.
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Shit Bindlekork - Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:20:49 EST ID:/CSHkTZB No.54732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>9 divided by 11 is roughly .8
>8 rhymes with marinate
>you marinate chicken
>chickens lay eggs
>eggs rhyme with legs
>Bush had two legs
>ergo, Bush did 9/11
Caroline Grandbanks - Sat, 07 Feb 2015 01:14:24 EST ID:YIeqrGhq No.54733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
JFK was the first person in human history to commit adultery.
Simon Duckdale - Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:04:43 EST ID:xC0G0X3F No.54761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls were shot by the FBI

>Shak sounds like shack
>A shack is a small building
>Ur was the cradle of Mesopotamian civilization
>Tupac was a reptilian halfbreed trying to rebuild an ancient empire

>Biggie Smalls' -a.k.a Notorious B.I.G- real name was Christopher
>The syllable "Ph" is often replaced with one or two "f"'s in other languages.
>Biggie Smalls was the third incarnation of Christ

>I sounds like Eye
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Fanny Seshstock - Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:51:13 EST ID:cNY7yDR1 No.54782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When I see posts like this, which are obviously satirical
It makes me sad that there is someone out there, actually, probably thousands of people out there that would take that completely seriously and it would blow their minds and they would tell all their friends
At least 60% of these thousands of people would be over the age of 15..the saddest part
Nigel Clillerspear - Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:33:11 EST ID:6nKr2p8x No.54783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>De Gaulle means "The Gaul".
That would be "La Gaulle" de is more like some from or about

Maximum territorial extent of U.S. by Hannah Simbletack - Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:03:54 EST ID:e3Ikf3ZP No.51826 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone have a map showing the maximum extent of all the territory ever controlled by the U.S.? This would include all the island territories, the disputed parts of Maine/New Brunswick before the Webster-Ashburton Treaty, that strip of land in the Milk River basin that was controlled by the US before the Treaty of 1818, and anything else you can think of that we governed at one time or another.

Pic related; I'd like to see a map similar to that except showing the furthest extent of U.S. territory all at once, and including all the outlying islands every controlled by the U.S.

First time posting on /his/ if you can't tell.
Charles Battingsat - Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:28:57 EST ID:Ujr8Ah7q No.51827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You mean, not a historically accurate map? Something that would show the phillipines AND those canadian territories? That would be tough to make. Would you include Japan, western germany and Iraq?

If you just mean places officially declared US territories by congress or treaty or whatever, then isn't it just the current territory plus some pacific islands and bits of canada?

You might need to make it yourself. We could help coming up with a list of the places controlled.
Hannah Simbletack - Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:02:56 EST ID:e3Ikf3ZP No.51830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I don't want a historically accurate map. I probably wouldn't include Japan, West Germany, or Iraq because those were more like military occupations if I know my history correctly. Maybe I don't.

>isn't it just the current territory plus some pacific islands and bits of canada?
Pretty much, yeah. It's just that I haven't seen a map with all of these places that were fringe territories at some time or another, so if I made the map myself I'd probably have to draw the borders from scratch for the sections around the Canada.

I'll try and come up with a list, might take a while though because I'm feeling lazy at the moment.
Whitey Caddlekitch - Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:41:11 EST ID:CpwErnyH No.51834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know you could always just make it yourself. Post it on a blog, get ten bucks you didn't have yesterday.

Popculture History v. Actual History: Why? by James Blackway - Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:04:51 EST ID:QZwuqd4E No.54292 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It seems that there is a huge rift between myth and fact when it comes to history and certain characters from history. I'm not sure how much this is an American thing heavily influenced by ideology, but it certainly exists.

Columbus is a good example of this.. an example that's ever changing, but what is with the image of Columbus as a humble explorer and nothing more, when we know this to be false?

Why is Robespierre depicted as a tyrannical monster when this narrative is accepted by most authorities on the revolution as a Thermidorian invention?

Why Is Napoleon as well viewed as a tyrannical brute, when he brought the world out of the dark ages of feudalism and into modernity?

There are just the classic examples of this phenomenon. Let's hear about the popular historical revisionism that bothers you the most.
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Caroline Bodgeford - Sat, 07 Feb 2015 10:33:32 EST ID:NAR5czOU No.54740 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The origin's of latin words in English takes place later than you would assume. We're talking Renaissance period here. Most leading intellectuals would have used Latin as their favored written form, as it was the accepted medium of international literature. They threw in latin loan words because they knew their audience would understand them. Prior to this, the only latin speakers were church men, with no desire to subvert the language, and the saxon speakers were largely illiterate.

Latin was lost and then found again.
Ebenezer Sucklemodge - Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:16:47 EST ID:+qUk3wY9 No.54741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Average American seriously thinks that English is a descendant of Latin

Actually the average American doesn't bother to consider where his language came from. Of the "average Americans" that do, it's commonly thought that English is a blend of old German and French, with a heavier leaning towards the German side. It's also accepted that English is a bit of a "bastard" or "vulture" language that scavenges useful words from virtually every language it comes across and slaps it together into the ever-evolving patchwork, and having few "genuine" words of its own.
Basil Hezzleforth - Sat, 07 Feb 2015 19:57:49 EST ID:+6al4/wL No.54742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he brought the world out of the dark ages of feudalism and into modernity

this i think is one of the problems... the dark ages myth, the myths of noble barbarians, the enlightenment myths...

reality is way more complicated and often times our perspective on history is the product of political agendas
Columbus is a great example... he was an abusive asshole so ruthless Spain had investigations into his character and how he ran his estate. yet he is taught in our public schools to be a brave, dashing adventurer.

Dark Ages myth, another great example... the medieval european world was not a period of dark ignorance dominated by the clergy. In fact it was no more enlightened than the preceding or following ages

The treatment of historical characters... another good example. Ghandi, for instance, was a pedophilic racist... but his character is sanctified nowadays.

Reality is more complex than public perception thinks
Hannah Hesslewill - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 18:21:56 EST ID:L1PKQH11 No.54747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hurrdurr sun neva sets
I believe that was said about Carl V's empire, not the english one.
Chemicaltoilet !xi8/JKFwzo - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 22:51:55 EST ID:cvvJxnzw No.54748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's called perspective.

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