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Black death in Arabia/India by Fuck Tillinggold - Fri, 25 Mar 2016 05:41:50 EST ID:UbbM3HsU No.56607 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm kind of interested in the black death, I guess that's a popular enough topic.
Thing is I always hear brief mentions of how it started in Arab nations and moved west as it moved east, and also hit Persia and India (so I guess Afghanistan too?)

And... you never hear about that. There's so much literature and media about the black death in Europe and it's effects on killing SO MANY people but I've found nothing in terms of what it did to the Muslim world.

Then I was thinking, maybe due to genetic differences (Like how Native Americans were destroyed by smallpox but Europeans carried it without symptoms) ... maybe those middle eastern folks weren't as susceptible and didn't die in such huge numbers, and that's why no one makes a big deal about it?

Or maybe there's just not much info available in English because Eurocentrism.

I have done some searches on the topic and come up with essentially nothing.

Does ANYONE know anything about this, can give me an overview or recommend some books/articles/documentaries/whatever.
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Matilda Susslefun - Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:49:31 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56612
Eh, no. While I'm not going to generalize the medieval Europeans, there were prominent Christians during the early middle ages, that talked shit about washing yourself a lot - because guess who - the pagan Vikings sure loved washing themselves a lot.
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William Bapperfoot - Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:57:27 EST ID:XFbI7gxA No.56615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56614
Obviously you can't millions of people in disparate cultures across nearly a thousand years, but it's a fact that bathing was not at all uncommon in European towns for most of the medieval period. The Romans were huge on bathing, and left behind an enduring set of public traditions and infrastructure that promoted widespread hygiene among all but the lowest tiers of society.
The fact that fringe Christian ascetics railed against bathing is an attestation to its commonality - you don't need to condemn a thing unless a goodly portion of people are doing it.

http://www.medievalists.net/2013/04/13/did-people-in-the-middle-ages-take-baths/

Read this, it's very thorough.
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Beatrice Firringville - Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:22:22 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56615
Just because you bath, doesn't mean you're clean. You need proper sewer work to get rid of that filth. You need garbage disposal etc.

I don't think I've ever read anything about Europeans outside people living in South-Europe taking care of getting rid of their filthy bathwater, excrements and garbage.

Do you know anything about it?
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Jenny Lightfuck - Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:10:09 EST ID:Tkqef7x1 No.56619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56618

Well, here is something I've learned from studies of Jorvik (York), is that they had a system for garbage (which is actually one of our biggest contributors to what life was like back then, food, agriculture and stuff), the common practice among vikings was bathing every week and grooming of hair, makeup and accessorising with braids and the like.

The anglo-dudes did also wash, just more like.. Once or thrice a month if you were part of the usual rabble.

If you're from Britiain or Scandi you've mighta heard the word Midden? It comes from the danish mødding, which means garbage. They had a system for domestic crap, and since most the shit they threw were organic they didn't have to worry about the problems -we- face with todays trash.
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Nathaniel Crandlehatch - Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:36:18 EST ID:NPevHm2F No.56625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56607
The Black Plague hit a Mongol Horde (not sure which one) as they were outside a Genovese trade city. The Mongols were too decimated to take the city, but catapulted some of their plague-riddled corpses over the city walls before leaving.

That's probably how the plague spread to Europe.


Romia Imperio by Graham Fuckleshaw - Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:48:10 EST ID:SbLL3rxd No.56323 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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All I want is for the EU to dissolve and for the Roman Empire to be reborn. Instead of Latin, spread a language people can actually learn, like Esperanto.

This should be the anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5EgbPr50hY


How can we blend modern technology and societal norms with Roman culture?
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Henry Dipperwore - Wed, 02 Dec 2015 10:34:29 EST ID:SbLL3rxd No.56339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56332
A language is a language. Man-made or not.
Esperanto has native speakers, something Latin hasn't had in hundreds of years.
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Angus Chunningspear - Wed, 17 Feb 2016 13:55:42 EST ID:RJ4ic01R No.56526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56339
Some languages sound and work better than others.
And esperanto sounds like shit.

I think we should throw a coin to decide between french and german.
Also the capital should be vienna and only continental europe and mediterranean islands should join.
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Esther Grandman - Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:06:09 EST ID:6PhWCkVP No.56527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why are people so polarized when it comes to Esperanto?
I prefer Klingon, personally.
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Eugene Blatherwell - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 19:01:23 EST ID:fzaa44hX No.56540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56527
Because it's a Jewish invention meant to destroy local European cultures. And it does sound like Mexican shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PlbYCIhqsk
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Augustus Grimstone - Thu, 17 Mar 2016 22:42:29 EST ID:AyVfeCOd No.56592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56527
Its straight up newspeak. A fabricated language devoid of any cultural context or nuance. Its fucking sterile. I don't want more reasons to destroy the interesting nuances of the currently dying languages just cos some fucks cant be bothered learning a language that takes more than a month.


Military History Tidbits and Stories by Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sun, 04 Oct 2015 10:34:33 EST ID:XFinykGi No.56165 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your favourite tidbits of military history and maybe (but please not) get into angry debates over the politics of war.

>be vietnam
>M16 costs 2x more than AR-15
>top brass reads reports that M-16 excels to AK-47 and AR-15
>buys it up, sends all M16s to nam
>jams all the time with a significant amount of people dying next to jammed guns
>turns out massive Colt lobby to inflate M-16 test results
>soldiers use M16 to kill VietKingKongs to get more reliable AK-47s
>be like arms race when you kill a guy, you get an upgraded gun
>M-16 cost around 3-4x more than AK
>mfw M16 still used today
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Lillian Crockleneck - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:12:35 EST ID:yoS4oQiI No.56547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56489
I was at the shooting rage a few years ago. There were two guys, one had an M4 or AR15 something and another had an AK. The guy with the AK would shoot 3 shots and then look down range, and then fire 3 more. The guy with the M4-looking gun would fire 1 shot, then have to clear the rifle then shoot 2 or 3 more and then have to clear the gun.

It was really quite funny.
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Jenny Ducklestone - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 06:37:31 EST ID:6PhWCkVP No.56548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56547
I've fired an M-4 many times and never had a single malfunction.
I swear people don't clean/lube their shit.
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John Cepperhire - Fri, 04 Mar 2016 04:55:53 EST ID:2maiH/8r No.56567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56499

>Were you? Of what?

The internet
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Eliza Dellerwell - Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:02:24 EST ID:WJ647f/P No.56585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56302
Fuckin right on
You forgot one of the tools used to service aks, the duct tape
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Edwin Sebberbury - Fri, 22 Apr 2016 06:27:02 EST ID:WhY2x3bu No.56655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56384
what if you just shot it straight up from the surface like a rocket.
nb because old


Greece vs Rome debate / Other debates by Edward Dronnerwudge - Mon, 07 Mar 2016 20:49:46 EST ID:dLt1LZNw No.56573 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Thought you might like this, stumbled upon this debate on the cultural significance of Rome and Greece to the contemporary world between Boris Johnson(Greece) and Mary Beard and found it highly entertaining and interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k448JqQyj8

Personally, I'm just a sucker for Rome so I can't side with Greece.
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Polly Gecklespear - Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:23:38 EST ID:bmbARlua No.56576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
inb4 Boris submits an "edict' to staff ordering them not to disobey or undermine his authority on his position on Greece and then retracts and backpedals wildly to save face.


Mongol Empire Discussion by Faggy Blannerpock - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 17:27:04 EST ID:ldRHh9cM No.56395 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Be Mongolians
>Have empire stretching from korea to poland
>Americans only remember you for BBQ resturaunts
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Jack Pepperstock - Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:22:43 EST ID:FHacsYQJ No.56556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56555

I wouldn't call "gruesome ways to kill people with germs" medical advances. They also believed weird bullshit like bacteria that manage to infect/kill people would be stronger and so they drained the blood from dead people to extract those badass bacteria.
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Jenny Sittingchot - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:36:15 EST ID:1zqE+127 No.56557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56495
I've always wondered if thousands of years from now hitler and the nazis will be viewed in the same light as Genghis Khan and the Mongol empire, as the dominant "badass" leader who conquered multiple regions with the whole genocide thing brushed aside.
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Nell Bullyhit - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 15:30:58 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56557
Well, unlike the Mongols that had a massive effect on the world for hundreds of years, the Nazis basically didn't accomplish anything.

>but V2's and jet fighters!
Hitler didn't believe in rockets, and he didn't even see the potential behind them (hell, just look up how Braun looked back at his time making V2's compared to his time at NASA). And those German jet fighters, they were shit. Just like those electro-hybrid engines Porsche tried to make for the Tiger tanks. And a fucking million other projects that sounded good on paper, but failed because Germany didn't have the resources and brainpower (brilliant idea kicking all those Jews out of Germany retards) to handle the engineering difficulties to turn prototypes in mass production objects.
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Cyril Hurringforth - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 07:00:22 EST ID:UH38+jj5 No.56565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56559
I heard he also cancelled any research on projects that could not be developed and battle ready within 1-2 years because he believed the war would be over by then
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Hugh Mogglespear - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 08:39:06 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56565
Yeah he was a fucking idiot. When you really dig into WW2 history, it's just amazing how the Nazis didn't fucking lose right in 1944 or even earlier.


WHO IS THE BEST KING? by Cedric Gillermire - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:46:15 EST ID:RZlDnIMx No.56341 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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YES, THE TIME HAS COME.

WHO IS THE BEST KING OR MONARCH THAT EVER LIVED?

TELL ME /HIS/, and I will JUDGE YE by YE CHOICE. For me it's gotta be Charlemagne, just saying, but I'm open to hearing other suggestions.
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Lillian Clayforth - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 09:31:06 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56345
Charlemagne also had a fuckload of wives and maitresses. IIRC, back then the Church hadn't really codified marriage laws.

One of my ancestors was a rich farmer, and he married a noblewoman from a impoverished noble house that had been on the wrong side of rebellions a couple of times and that noble house traces its ancestry back to some wive of Charlemagne that didn't get any big claims for her children.

When I found that out, I thought it sucked it wasn't a direct lineage but to be honest, such a crooked lineage line is much more interesting, and it shows nicely how for many noble houses, being nobility wasn't that amazing. Just like there was a huge disparity between nobles and commoners, there was a big disparity between lower nobles and higher nobles.
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Whitey Pittingbury - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:02:46 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56466

Must suck being the midget in the middle. Are they all connected human-centipede style, or just duct tape?
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Priscilla Sillerford - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:01:25 EST ID:sEJZ+FBf No.56520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il, lodestar of the korean revolution. He was the greateset saviour of humanity.
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Jack Clonkinnack - Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:04:56 EST ID:MzQA4Ad+ No.56528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Qin Shi Huangdi was a OG nigga, first emperor of China, unified the warring states, initiated the great wall, commissioned the terracotta warriors, mandated a unified currency, initiated numerous public works especially in regards to irrigation and farming, set the stage for China to be the HNIC of asia for millennia.
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Emelienegro !2iyFNTAIpU - Mon, 07 Mar 2016 02:58:13 EST ID:a4cvJIZX No.56572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Inb4 mein Fuhrer


Area 51 is South dakota by Nicholas Trotford - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 00:20:49 EST ID:5UcdvLNQ No.56503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am convinced that Area 51 in Nevada is a decoy, and the REAL Area 51 is the entirety of South Dakota. I've never met anyone from South Dakota. I've never hear any news from South Dakota, I've never seen a license plate from South Dakota, there are no sports teams there, this is all just to perfect of a cover for the governments largest test facility! People will THINK it's a state, but no one will ever actually think ABOUT South Dakota.

Mt Rushmore was specifically built to lure people into a safe area of the site to convince people that it is a real state, but once people are there no one has a desire to go anywhere but out of the "state" so the perfect ruse is maintained.
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Eliza Crinderman - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 05:14:54 EST ID:/FGfbv4A No.56516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56503
Everyone here apart from you is a robot and their is a teakettle on the other side of Saturn.
Also, I haven't been to the States. Have you driven to South Dakota?
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Oliver Duckbanks - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:59:43 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56503
It may not be a real state, but that doesn't mean that people don't live there. Scientists in underground bunkers must still live. Unless they are indeed robots, as Eliza suggests.
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Nicholas Hacklekodge - Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:59:59 EST ID:8/4XULkF No.56522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56516
Oh god who would want to go to that musty old clap trap?


Autonomous Zones by Charles Blundlekock - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 03:13:17 EST ID:oEYT+g/z No.56504 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The Free Territory (Ukrainian: Вiльнa тeритoрiя vilna terytoriya; Russian: свoбoднaя тeрритoрия svobodnaya territoriya) or Makhnovia (Мaхнoвщинa Makhnovshchyna) was an attempt to form a stateless anarchist society during the Ukrainian Revolution. It existed from 1918 to 1921, during which time "free soviets" and libertarian communes operated under the protection of Nestor Makhno's Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army. The population of the area was around seven million.
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Eliza Foblingway - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:54:59 EST ID:6PhWCkVP No.56508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In before tankie scum come along and defend the conquest of these people.
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Ian Handernure - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:59:43 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56508
CRUSH ALL HUMAN CULTURE

ONLY TANKS SHALL REIGN

LONG LIVE THE STEEL FLESH

9ASSASSINATE9 9KIRTANER9

Am I missing the joke? What's tankie scum supposed to be?
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Eliza Foblingway - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:04:00 EST ID:6PhWCkVP No.56510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56509
Tankies are people on the left who unironically defend regimes like those of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc.
It comes from the phrase "send in the tanks", as that was the position taken by many leftists during rebellions against Soviet domination in Eastern Europe.
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Ian Handernure - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:43:41 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56510
Oh. They still exist?

You'd think they'd gone extinct ever since all the former-communist countries turned into even-more-hypercapitalist-than-western-countries.


Diktatoreco de la Proletaro by Charles Dosslebure - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:11:15 EST ID:fzaa44hX No.56473 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who makes up the history curriculum for American high schools?
Today I just learned about the history of primaries, and how our political system became more democratic from a short 3 minute youtube video. Something so crucial was never once touched upon in any history class I ever took.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r41imlvr4hs
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Hugh Clobblespear - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:16:44 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56473
I don't know I'm Dutch. I do remember we had an American exchange student during the time we discussed parts of the Cold War, and that guy sat there like "Woah man, we just skimmed over this in highschool." Guess kids from where he came didn't learn about the whole shady shit going on with the torpedos that started the Vietnam war.
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Charlotte Wockleted - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 22:08:26 EST ID:w/h4vnlt No.56476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56473
Americans are the most ignorant westerners. They think socialism is communism.
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Rebecca Dellynot - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:28:46 EST ID:3nMGUWmW No.56478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I took AP Euro and AP US history in high school. We also had a very passionate teacher for 9th grade Civics. So I am very well informed in western history and the foundations and principles behind the US government system.

Fuck, during WW2 lessons, my AP US teacher went so far as to draw comparisons between the policies and propaganda of FDR and Hitler (Eagles everywhere)

I learned more about these subjects in high school than I did at college.
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Cornelius Clonningway - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 14:26:34 EST ID:mu32eWKW No.56497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56476

And they think social security is socialism.
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Nicholas Didgestone - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 21:26:42 EST ID:slEOrfVs No.56498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56497
Social security is arguably the only truly socialist element of the USA. A state pension system? Sure sounds socialist to me.


cold war era history by Rebecca Dollerduck - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 04:17:04 EST ID:guM++aHN No.56470 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i am really interested in world history during the cold war era, and I want to learn more when it come to the history of Africa, South America, and the Middle east during this time in particular. Any books you /his/torians recommend?
In fact, just dump whatever links/books/articles/pictures whatever relating to cold war era history.
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Lillian Clayforth - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 09:46:52 EST ID:FqRGTRMQ No.56472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know any books, but I do know some interesting bits to research.

The CIA disposed of the legitimate democratic Indonesian government (after that government started playing out the USA and the Soviet Union, for economic and political gains and to remain neutral) by giving lots of money to a military commander, which resulted into a coup, after which that military commander decided to "root out" communism by killing millions of people.
The irony was, the USA had helped that same Indonesian government into power by telling the Dutch government to back the fuck off, because after the Nazis were defeated in WW2, the first thing the Dutch government did after the Dutch military and navy was back on its feet, was send soldiers to Indonesia to crush any rebellion against Dutch rule (since the Japanese had destroyed the Dutch forces stationed in Indonesia and had supported Indonesian nationalist ideas). The US government basically insulted the Dutch government by comparing their military actions in Indonesia with the Nazis (which wasn't far off, because here in the Netherlands, photographs of mass graves and Indonesians being tortured among the possessions of former colonial soldiers that passed away are discovered with some frequency).
Anyway, the comparisons with the Nazis and the political pressure from other countries and from the people themselves (for a lot of Dutch people, the military actions in Indonesia had a bitter aftertaste because they still remembered the Nazis) caused the Dutch government to give the Indonesian people the freedom they deserved. And then the CIA dicked it all to hell.

Also, a genuine conspiracy theory. During the Six-Day-War, the Israeli navy and Israeli airforce tried to sink a US navy vessel the USS Liberty in international waters, near Egypt. It is claimed to be a mistake... but some people claim it was a trick to pull the USA into the Six-Day-War - which failed since the ship didn't sink, and not all crewmen died in the bombing and torpedo-ing.


why not make history? by Henry Mingerduck - Sun, 03 Jan 2016 06:06:34 EST ID:np0s4HuY No.56385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Cyril Droddlechock - Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:47:19 EST ID:vuu302UU No.56427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol so many boards and you shit post here, why? Do you have a system?

I'll humor you.
History is made by historiographers, I studied CS instead. That's my excuse.
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Cedric Henkinstone - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:35:06 EST ID:ZgRRB0/F No.56430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56427
i have also studied counter strike


Encyclopedia Hermetica: A Big History by Hamilton Habberdidging - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:29:22 EST ID:ERGwlBhx No.56420 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey folks, I'm just shamelessly self-promoting my new podcast series here... good for you stoner academic folks.

http://themodernhermeticist.com/encyclopedia-hermetica-a-big-history/


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