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Drug using presidents? by Fanny Buzzhall - Mon, 26 Oct 2015 15:54:50 EST ID:fZ3DK8Em No.56227 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post quotes from (possible) drug using presidents

>Habayit Hayehudi MK Betzalel Smotrich asked Netanyahu: "Why do you even talk to (Palestinian President Mahmoud) Abbas? Why pull the world's leg?" Netanyahu responded by saying that Israel "is not talking to bin Laden or ISIS, but I will talk to whoever isn't calling for our destruction."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.682374


Thunk about it by Nell Neblinglidging - Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:15:19 EST ID:GVgszkte No.56211 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So im drunk.and was thinking about cartoons that had good songs.like famly guy or sponge bob.think about it!
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Colonel Furburger - Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:58:51 EST ID:69yWv/Nb No.56213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I post this on behalf of Justin Trudeau
And yes I am canadian HAHA

Crazy Kings and Leaders by Walter Gallystone - Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:43:46 EST ID:IIEMocfo No.54643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Any instances of leaders/kings slowly going insane and losing their minds?

Cambyses was one, the Cambyses who was the son of the Cyrus that beseiged Sardis.

Basically, the guy slowly went insane and made his army continue to march against a mythical tribe of Africans in the woods while his troops converted to cannibalism due to ration shortage. Or that time that he shot an advisor's son with a bow and arrow because he disagreed with him being an alcoholic? Or how about that time that he decided to kill his own brother because he had a dream? Or when he killed his own wife because of something she said at the dinner table? Or how about that time he started burning shit in the temple of Hephaistos?

He was probably the only king who didn't give a fuck about the hellenistic gods, or any for that matter, because he was crazy.
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George Bricklekudging - Tue, 13 Oct 2015 06:05:13 EST ID:Vxn3KaCO No.56186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Surprise! It's me, the guy whose 6 month old post you quoted!
That's a really amusing thought, but Caligula really does seem to have been, by all surviving accounts, a colossal asshole and not just a practical joker with a penchant for satirizing his own regime.
I like your version better, though. Let's stick with that one.
Ghengis Dong - Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:14:45 EST ID:2egVTEgC No.56188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's a report from the British Ambassadors to Castille wherein they describe the relative hotness of Juana la Loca in somewhat hilarious detail (They even try to describe her breath). The description begins with item V. under "June". It's quite interesting and from their description I would quite likely hit that.
Ghengis Dong - Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:31:41 EST ID:2egVTEgC No.56189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>XVIII. To endeavour to speak with her fasting, and that she may tell them some matter at length, so that they may see whether her breath be sweet.
Could never come near to her fasting, but at other times have approached her visage as nigh as they conveniently could, but never felt any savour of spices, and believe her to be of a sweet savour.
Cyril Chennerway - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:52:59 EST ID:5ADmKFCq No.56208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Ottoman Sultans had a crazy one in their line, Ibrahim the mad. Can't really recall any specific stories but modern psychoanalysts would have a field day with his diagnosis
Cyril Chennerway - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 23:15:46 EST ID:5ADmKFCq No.56209 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Tamerlane wasn't crazy

His campaigns were brutal as fuck yes, but he didn't exhibit any mental issues and we actually have primary sources of Timur and his court, unlike all the turco-mongol raiders before him. You could argue that he was a fanatic islamist zealot but it seems more that his hardcore muslimness was a means for him to legitimize his rule, just like when he made the dubious claim that he descended from Chingis Khan. He was a peasant nobody, he needed to legitimize his rule among the turco mongol armies and claiming to be "The Sword of Islam" and a descendant of Genghis were ways for him to do that. Not sure where you got the idea he was a crazy.

Help with identification by Hamilton Goodford - Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:27:23 EST ID:02zvB8Ms No.56153 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi. This was in our basement. I must have looked at it a bunch of times, but today I noticed the cross at the top and realized it had some sort of nefarious association. Sure enough, I looked it up and it is an "Iron Cross"(proper noun?). Is there some reason it was placed on top of an America flag? Was this flag a grave marker? My grandfather fought during the time of the Wars, and has since died.(all I could think of)
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Cornelius Crendlefen - Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:49:57 EST ID:6Xi/1jMy No.56190 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>weak Habsburgs who got to try to unite Germany for centuries but failed
Molly Naggleford - Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:24:37 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56191 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>saved europe from Ottomans in their prime

fixed that for you
Beatrice Bunwater - Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:55:30 EST ID:4u9Cq0MQ No.56192 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>tfw when Europe is going to belong to the Muslims anyways in a few decades
A Wizard - Fri, 16 Oct 2015 23:36:40 EST ID:/HWjT0P7 No.56197 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Omfg... "Ger-Man"

All of the fuckers you're talking about all Germans. The existence of various political regimes does not effect the ethnicity that is the Germanic ethic group.

But yeah, the Christians really fucked up europe.
Phyllis Fevingtit - Sat, 17 Oct 2015 08:38:46 EST ID:VbnwhOqz No.56201 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You probably mean
>got their asses saved by Poles in the last moment

Historical tidbits by Rebecca Dacklefoot - Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:49:39 EST ID:taGtMpGl No.56183 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Indentured servitude was common in the Swedish countryside (predominantly in the south) up until the 1930's and it wasn't outlawed until 1945.

Medieval armies by Doris Clullydale - Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:57:12 EST ID:LQxCuB8k No.53765 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You are in medieval times, you have full command of an army of your choosing, any type of composition. What do you choose? What is your army

> Main force consists of cataphract type shock cavalry and horse archers
> Light cavalry for distraction and hit and run purposes
> Heavy spearmen to hold the line, readied for hammer and anvil
> Longbow men behind spearmen shooting down ranks
> Cavalry and archer based armies are the best
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Hedda Chuffingspear - Tue, 06 Oct 2015 00:48:38 EST ID:BiQZyatf No.56173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jarvis Claystock - Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:29:27 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56174 Ignore Report Quick Reply

At the battle of Pydna, which is what we were talking about, yes. The Macedonians the Romans encountered were a far cry from the Macedonians of Philip and Alexander.

>The two centers engaged at about 3pm, with the Macedonians advancing on the Romans a short distance from the Roman camp. Paullus claimed later that the sight of the phalanx filled him with alarm and amazement. The Romans tried to beat down the enemy pikes or hack off their points, but with little success. Roman officers began to despair. One 'rent his garments' in impotent fury. Another seized his unit's standard and threw it among the enemy. His men made a desperate charge to recapture it, but were beaten back despite inflicting some casualties. Unable to get under the thick bristle of pikes, the Romans used a planned retreat over the rough ground.

>But as the phalanx pushed forward, the ground became more uneven as it moved into the foothills, and the line lost its cohesion, being forced over the rough terrain. Paullus now ordered the legions into the gaps, attacking the phalangites on their exposed flanks. At close quarters the longer Roman sword and heavier shield easily prevailed over the Macedonian Kopis and lighter armor of the Macedonians. They were soon joined by the Roman right, which had succeeded in routing the Macedonian left.

>Seeing the tide of battle turn, Perseus fled with the cavalry on the Macedonian right. According to Plutarch, Perseus' cavalry had yet to engage, and both the king and his cavalry were accused of cowardice by the surviving infantry.

>An elite unit of the phalanx, a 3,000 strong Guard unit, put itself on higher ground, but was cornered there. The unit fought to the bitter end, with almost every man killed.

>Perseus later surrendered to Paullus, and was paraded in triumph in Rome in chains. He was then imprisoned. The Macedonian kingdom was dissolved, many inhabitants deemed to be anti-Roman were enslaved and sent to Rome, much of its land parcelled out to Roman colonists (ex-legionaries) and Roman allies, its government replaced with four republics. In time, these were also dissolved, and Macedonia became a Roman province.
A Wizard - Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:18:01 EST ID:/HWjT0P7 No.56179 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The thing about this, is that in Philip's and Alexander's armies, there would had been a division or two of skirmishers who run about flinging a few javelins and then are used to fill the gaps when a heavier division can't keep it's footing and needs a moment to reform. Further, they had light cavalry to stop maneuvers like the one mentioned below.
Clara Nullerdudging - Fri, 09 Oct 2015 18:35:32 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56180 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>The Romans had placed the two legions in the middle, with the allied Latin, Italian and Greek infantry on their flanks. The cavalry was placed on the wings, with the Roman right being supplemented by 22 elephants.

>The phalanx took up the center of the Macedonian line, with the elite 3,000-strong Guard formed to the left of the phalanx. Lighter peltasts, mercenaries and Thracian infantry guarded the two flanks of the phalanx, while the Macedonian cavalry was also most probably arrayed on both flanks. The stronger contingent was on the Macedonian right, where Perseus commanded the heavy cavalry (including his elite Sacred Squadron), and the Thracian Odrysian cavalry were deployed. However, other sources state that the cavalry did not participate in the fight, as there was a strike against Perseus by the nobles.

They had literally every element they needed, but the nobles took a dive.
A Wizard - Sat, 10 Oct 2015 03:53:15 EST ID:/HWjT0P7 No.56181 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Hmm, well, the Macedonians were known for talking shit to the Thracians, and the Thracians well known for saying "Fuck you, we quit. Let's go raid the neighbors."

But here's the reason they lost. They sent their main force in first, against a legionary army. You don't do that, and they should had known better.

Cold War General Thread by John Feffinglod - Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:56:03 EST ID:6nKr2p8x No.54044 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The concepts of MAD and proxy wars obsess me. Let's have a thread focusing on cold war era geopolitics, and also have a look at the culture of the time and different points of view that each country had.

Kissinger critiquing the concept of total war and calling for americans to focus on conventional warfare:
The build up to the cold war with an empathsis on the British point of view:
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Whitey Borringridge - Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:09:26 EST ID:HI6SkGj2 No.56021 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The english had a navy and held a bunch of trade routes, got overpopulated, expelled population, then population said "fuck you guys, never liked you hokey bastards in the first place" and kept colonies... with varying degrees of wtf involved. Canada seems the most confused though.
Jenny Bagglehet - Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:14:29 EST ID:VvcaoJPx No.56140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree England is always maintained a very strong set of alliances predicated mostly on their strength rather than their allies strength which keeps them as the dominant part until of course the second world war and which days they obviously got pretty overwhelmed by you has his production
Molly Shakeford - Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:43:05 EST ID:K//zrI33 No.56142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You want to explore proxy wars and MAD all you have to do is look to the situation in the middle East that has been manipulated by the Americans, the Saudi Arabians and the Israelis
Edward Socklenick - Tue, 22 Sep 2015 22:45:25 EST ID:yNa7lnyO No.56143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Don't forget to include the Indian peninsula into that mix, to help put it into an even bigger and thus better yours versus ours MAD players, like India, Pakistan, and one day even Sril Lanka. Such mad MAD policies all around the globe is amazingly mad.
Fanny Worthingstock - Wed, 23 Sep 2015 01:30:02 EST ID:1qEdrkTE No.56145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just read "A Failed Empire: The Soviet Union in the Cold War from Stalin to Gorbachev" by Vladislav Zubok, which covers Soviet foreign policy and political history excellently. Zubok, as far as I know, coined a term for the near-constant premise of Soviet foreign policy called "Revolutionary-Imperialist paradigm", which assumed the imminent collapse of the liberal capitalist order and that armed with Marx's "scientific theory", Soviet diplomats and statesman were superior to their Western counterparts.

I'm interested what everyone's perspective is on Mikael Gorbachev? I had always looked up to Gorbachev as a peacemaker and liberal idealist, but wowza did this book convincingly paint his tenure as characterized by chaos and naivety! After the mid-80's he wouldn't use force in practically any circumstance, whether to quell protests or defeat rebels or just bulwark the state (the only pacifistic world leader perhaps in world history). He also winged almost all of his domestic and foreign policy, often resulting in failure or decentralization due to inadequate planning.

Also, Raymond Garthoff's tomes on the Cold War from Nixon to Reagan are phenomenal, probably some of the most incisive and even-handed Cold War histories ever written.

Zubok's book corroborates that Mao's puritanism and ideological radicalism were a constant thorn on the side of the Soviet foreign policy. He suggested that Mao's China resented heavily the Soviets' international stature and how they dominated the communist world, so they'd constantly undermine (relative) Soviet pragmatism.

chile actuality by pinochet - Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:56:23 EST ID:QRpA4hY7 No.56134 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well since this os Pol .im asking what exactly pinochet did? I KNOW some things,but my cousin said that he did nothing wrong...anyway feom a neutral opinion,what exactly he did,bad or good.I know chile its one of The most expensives places to live...so lets go
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Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a United States-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the elected socialist Unidad Popular government of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Several academics have stated that the support of the United States was crucial to the coup and the consolidation of power afterward.

From its beginning, the new military government implemented harsh measures against its perceived opponents.[8] Various reports and investigations claim that between 1,200 and 3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 people were interned and as many as 30,000 were tortured during the time Pinochet was in government.[9][10][11] As of 2011, the official number of deaths and forced disappearances stands at 3,065.

Under the influence of the free market-oriented neoliberal "Chicago Boys", the military government implemented economic reforms, including currency stabilization, tariff cutting, opening Chile's markets to global trade, restricting labor unions, privatizing social security, and the privatization of hundreds of state-controlled industries. These policies produced what has been referred to as the "Miracle of Chile," but critics state that the government policies dramatically increased economic inequality.[13] Chile was, for most of the 1990s, the best-performing economy in Latin America, though academics continue to dispute the legacy of Pinochet's reforms

What school of historiography do you find most compelling? by Lydia Werringwater - Sat, 12 Sep 2015 19:06:31 EST ID:K3k4dOuf No.56122 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are you into classic 19th century great-man historicism, annales school total histories, American modernization theory, or neo-Marxist (post 1950s) thought? Or are you a postmodern nihilist?

Should historians embrace political bias, or do our best to avoid it? Do you believe materialism is the driving force of history or are you a fan of Hegel and believe in the primacy of ideas as the driving force in history?

I used to be a pretty hardcore Marxist but as I've started my history master's education I've increasingly felt like Marxism is just too myopic and orthodox to account for the complexity of the modern world, and it's focus on industrial production feels increasingly irrelevant to the post-industrial West. Modernization theory is garbage in that it's predicated entirely on an "end-of-history" style perception of the West as a standard against which other nations are measured. Annales style history is nice but "total history" seems optimistic and prone to reductionism. Relativistic post modernism also seems to suck, since of course there are some genuine, non-contextual truths in historical studies.

I guess I would say I'm increasingly an adherent of a sort of mixture of Marxism, Modernization theory, and relativism, even though in a broad sense those aren't reconciliable.

Sorry about the rambling, I'm nodding over here and thinking about historiography and just thought I'd see what you people think.
Lydia Werringwater - Sat, 12 Sep 2015 19:10:46 EST ID:K3k4dOuf No.56123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Or to put it in the form of a simple question: Do you think any one system can account for all of history's nuance or is that a flawed premise from the get go?
Shit Clammlestone - Sat, 12 Sep 2015 20:12:22 EST ID:WBy4CtY7 No.56124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Took a course in Chinese Historiography in college. Goddamn those fuckers rewrote and rewrote that shit to serve their Emperor's version of events.

Flawed premise though, but the idea is to be able to code-switch between different types of historiography when you're talking about different scales of history.

I've heard the term describing our present era as the next step beyond post modernism: Pre futurism. I think this is an incredibly important distinction, and may be a reason you find many existent schools of History unfulfilling. It is characterized by the proliferation of information access that will ultimately reach every corner of the human population. It is also characterized by the rise of "big data" and the ability to crunch those numbers.

I think that the Marxist idea that "society determines consciousness" is an important thing to remember in terms of politics in history. That the course of historical events is driven by mass change in the consciousness of the people, reflective of the material conditions of their era.
Archie Pucklehare - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:43:12 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56129 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yes, it's called Linguistics.
Hugh Craffingstock - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:26:09 EST ID:yFQ4Ty4G No.56130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These "historiographies" are...already history.

Was the nuke justified? by Jenny Maffingstone - Sat, 30 May 2015 00:08:19 EST ID:fvUsPHn8 No.55539 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, whenever this thread comes up i hear some people talking about how the emperor wanted to sue for peace before the nukes were even dropped. Now, i don't have any sources on that so i'm not sure that its true. Does anybody have some?
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Edwin Dibbernutch - Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:23:44 EST ID:EYQ6O056 No.56039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
those fucking japs spread anime across the world and now we got sissy otaku's ruining society

my great grandpap didn't fought those nips on iwo jima so they could spread those stupid cartoons
Pimp C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:21:00 EST ID:XB9W9h+B No.56088 Report Quick Reply
Killing innocent civilians? Yeah that's unjustified. A pre-emptive strike from losing more lives if Operation Downfall happen and ending the war quickly? That's justified. It's like dropping the bomb's got its good and bad.
Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:09:39 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56090 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Don't forget that nuking them kept them out of the hands of the soviets. Ask anyone in eastern europe about how much shittier that would've been.

Either way, should've dropped it on their emperor, then just blockaded until they gave up.
Hamilton Fuckingridge - Fri, 11 Sep 2015 21:09:33 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56119 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Ask anyone in eastern europe

Yeah, and not someone in East Asia. The Soviets had little direct control over their proxies in Asia, not in the least part due to demographic fears and racism. They also wished to avoid a large overseas occupation of a notoriously (or so it was thought) restive population.

>kept them out of the hands of the soviets

The Soviets got Sakhalin, which was a fifth of Japan's land mass. This placed them within short range of US military assets. This rendered the entire US occupation force a hostage to short range nuclear strikes.

They also turned China communist, which is exponentially larger than Japan.

It seems these arguments are little more than face saving maneuvers to cover up blunder after blunder.
Archie Pucklehare - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 05:03:25 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56128 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fifth of land mass... Dude, they took the equivalent of fucking Alaska or the Yukon. The people who lived there were hardly even japs.

The only blunder was not letting king Arthur blow up china.

Is the holocaust story an example of drunk history? by Polly Pimblehine - Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:27:13 EST ID:A9wMWjoU No.56040 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Have you seen the so called facts in this myth? The nazis burned 6 million bodies while the allies were photographing europe and the red cross inspected the camps! I mean, lol, my balls are big.
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Faggy Toothood - Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:02:11 EST ID:cr/041xF No.56062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Germany started out capitalist, and Broseph Stalin was like "try communism baby" and in the end Germany turned out to be bi.
Faggy Toothood - Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:04:12 EST ID:cr/041xF No.56063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Germany was like "oooh yeah blitzkreig?" and France was like "is that it?" and Germany cried "it'll be longer next time".
Whitey Clemmlehood - Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:12:33 EST ID:yEdEzxgG No.56067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>meanwhile at pacific high japan and america got into an argument over sandwiches
William Dummledock - Tue, 01 Sep 2015 19:22:28 EST ID:9eVMF38W No.56068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>japan be all like, "yo chins, are you sick of western imperialism, bra?" and china was like "oh man, you don't even know" "word try some eastern imperialism"
David Socklewater - Sun, 13 Sep 2015 05:07:50 EST ID:e1ib0G71 No.56125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>germany and britain get into fight over who has to look after baby italy

Medieval Japan by Alice Nangermure - Tue, 28 Oct 2014 02:55:10 EST ID:GZTV3220 No.54171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Japan's history has always interested me, in fact feudal Japan or Sengoku Japan is what got me into history in the first place. I know it's over played and anime and weaboos have kinda ruined Japan's reputation. But, aside from all that, japan in the Sengoku era was extremely bloody and treacherous. Wars were constantly being fought, enemy armies just a few miles away from you being on such a small island. It was quite war torn. It was much like medieval Europe, just more violent compared to how small the country is and how many battles and wars were fought in such a short time. Their culture and warrior class was extremely sophisticated and unique. It might not be the most powerful or most influential in the world, but the civilizations before the western ideology conquered wer extremely unique and quute different than the rest of the world. You could say that before the west spread Iit's influence, Japan was a pretty mysterious place. It's quite fun to study if you ask me.

Inb4: I'm not some weaboo
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Cedric Lightway - Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:33:21 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56078 Ignore Report Quick Reply

How was it more violent than the islands of the UK?
Cornelius Fillyfuck - Fri, 04 Sep 2015 08:15:45 EST ID:MRc/EBe+ No.56082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's a fantastic In Our Time episode, one of the best.
The other ones related to Japan are "Samurai" "Zen" and "Shinto", they are all pretty good.
Look what went on between Scotland and England from about the 1400 onwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_between_Scotland_and_England
Some boarder disputes and a war that lead to Scotland being ruled by England.
Meanwhile, In Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_battles#Muromachi_Period
Constant warfare between a shitload of clans all the time.
Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:17:29 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56091 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Should really place the european comparison a good 200years back though. The 1400s were the end of that age of europe and the hailing of the renaissance. Japan (and east asia in general) fell a bit behind in this period, due to political incompetence.
Alice Blondlechone - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 19:05:41 EST ID:MRc/EBe+ No.56094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Political competence or constant warfare?
A Wizard - Mon, 07 Sep 2015 14:43:14 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56104 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They do go hand in hand I find, lol.

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