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History repeating itself. by Michael Angelo - Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:46:20 EST ID:mwxNDmgT No.56026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What can we see from past events in history, that can help us piece together the major events of tomorrow?
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Phoebe Hacklefoot - Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:05:23 EST ID:t8UW9Ihr No.56027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
All financial systems eventually collapse.
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Cedric Gickledale - Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:24:28 EST ID:tTHQmYYK No.56028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56026

>Someone ALWAYS has a grudge
>All empires will crumble
>trying to predict the future is useless because of unknown unknowns
>make life shitty enough for a large number of people and they will cleave you from the herd of humanity and watch you die
>awesome sex
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Martha Duddlebury - Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:05:41 EST ID:IBzanJxJ No.56029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Change is inevitable and conservatism is an exercise in futility
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Shit Dommerlick - Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:34:46 EST ID:hT3/Evlt No.56035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I recommend you read some Hegel and then read some Marx.

Then maybe take a look into the subject of historiography.
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Martha Pickville - Sun, 30 Aug 2015 03:59:20 EST ID:B/d5fliz No.56055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56026

the moment something starts it is guaranteed that it will end.
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Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 00:19:30 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56055

Fractals.
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Matilda Goodhood - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 06:56:22 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56026

We're looking at a new war in europe within our generation's time, but first turkey will crumble, Greece will have a shot at becoming a mighty empire again, and I'm expecting some interesting stuff from the caspian sea in general as well.

Also, expecting some sort of Buddhist theocracy to form in SE asia, in response to islam and australia.
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Nathaniel Clibberforth - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 21:48:10 EST ID:WBy4CtY7 No.56095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56093
>Greece will have a shot at becoming a mighty empire again
What in the wide wide world of sports are you talking about?
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Hugh Pabberwill - Sat, 05 Sep 2015 23:35:52 EST ID:ce5reo/c No.56096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56092

fractals will eventually repeat.
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A Wizard - Sun, 06 Sep 2015 02:27:57 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56095

Poor angry young white people, directly next to an unstable shithead nation, who's cities were originally built (enough of them) by said angry poor young white people's ancestors.

This usually leads to invasion.
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Albert Pockford - Sun, 06 Sep 2015 12:57:38 EST ID:9eVMF38W No.56099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56095
He might be on to something here but who would win in a Grecco Turkish war? What would the alliances be?
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Archie Davingchore - Sun, 06 Sep 2015 15:17:36 EST ID:/E10MzvY No.56100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56099

America is incredibly focussed on Greece as a buffer nation

Getting Turkey would be a huge asset against Russia
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Charlotte Sicklewater - Sun, 06 Sep 2015 16:35:30 EST ID:ujdd0TQn No.56101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56097
Very unlikely to happen.
The Greeks have a very particular culture of simply enjoying life and just kinda going with the flow.
This attitude is partially responsible for their financial fuckups.

They'll fight you with tooth and nail to defend what is theirs but they aren't likely to start an offensive.
For example: Greece suffered the worst in WW2 in regard to the percentage of their population that was murdered. They have done very litle to claim reperations and such.

The Ottomans committed genocide on the Greeks, something that has been barely recognized by anyone (especially Turkey).

The invasion of Cyprus, this is a complicated story and Greece wasn't blameless but the end result is that Turkey took almost half the country and kicked out the Greeks living in that part. This occupation hasn't been recognized by any country or organization that matters.

TL;DR: The Greeks have a LOT of shit to be angry about, but it's a humble country with humble people.
If the opportunity arose to strike back somehow they'd probably take it. But right now they simply don't have the means, and they're ok with that.
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Nathaniel Clibberforth - Sun, 06 Sep 2015 17:33:36 EST ID:WBy4CtY7 No.56102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56099
He's not onto anything except one too many games of Vicky 2.

His Caspian Sea fuckery is the most likely scenario to happen of what he listed, with the other two being pure video game fantasy. I'd say there's an equally likely chance of Russia land grabbing in Kazakhstan more or disintegrating further and losing its grip on Dagestan. Russia will be the catalyst if not the direct cause of the next major European war.

Turkey would likely turn its sights on its Muslim neighbors and Kurdish lands before they start jacking off Europe.
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A Wizard - Mon, 07 Sep 2015 14:42:03 EST ID:b0Z6XbnQ No.56103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56102

lol, despite vickylove, I'm no Byzantinerd. Just remember that these thoughts existed before when Greece was in relatively similar situations pre-wwII, but at that tije greece was behind the trends, and their neighbors were stronger and better held together. If the political structure in turkey starts to collapse, it ignite the powder keg of the entire situation, and it's gonna blow.

PS How is vicky2 with all the new expansions that came out over the past few years?
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Frederick Hunderset - Mon, 07 Sep 2015 20:59:40 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone have that vicky screenshot of the Crimean Crisis?
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Emma Hungernug - Tue, 08 Sep 2015 04:48:06 EST ID:8hSk1rC9 No.56108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56103
It was broken as shit until the first major expansion (like a quarter of the world's population would usually be British).
They actually made it balanced with the more recent ones, and Africa forms up really nicely.

The economics are still a bit fucky, but some mods help that.
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Frederick Hunderset - Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:34:50 EST ID:46Ivwr3B No.56111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56108

>economy

Just run minor surpluses and only produce things that you can manufacture with raw materials from yourself and empire. An irregular + cavalry pair is the cheapest and most efficient army for occupying territory. Because supply limits actually matter in vicky 2, you only really need one battle group, with a 5 attack general, win every time.

Bonus points for stockpiling coal from 1600 onward in the Ultimate mod, leading you to have a 99% strangehold on coal reserves in the 19th century.
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Cedric Penkinfug - Mon, 22 May 2017 21:20:00 EST ID:uOfeITwV No.57188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56093

>buddhist theocracy [...] in response to Australia
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Samuel Hummledidging - Sun, 28 May 2017 02:44:08 EST ID:rJQXt3rx No.57192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>people are whimsical and commit terrible mistakes

over and over and over and over and over until the meteor struck.
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Sophie Gammlesore - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 01:41:33 EST ID:1oNFPI90 No.57286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mummys, bitches.
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Ebenezer Wugglebig - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 16:31:44 EST ID:/EK+cIBP No.57293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56026
I got one OP. Those new declassified military docs from the CIA that suggest planting bombs in urban centers and staging shootings to frame Cuba as hostile terrorists might give us some insight into modern terrorism and its ultimate motivations and sources.

If you haven't seen the docs, they're covered here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRdHKn8lULk
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John Wuffingnet - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 08:42:06 EST ID:rbK+gS1r No.57296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57293
I doubt that the CIA was directly involved in the creation of modern islamic terrorism, but it's important to remember that Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA to fight communists using guerilla tactics, so Osama probably just took those plans and lessons and simply applied them to killing American citizens after the Soviet Union fell.


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