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Practice French/German? by Shitting Pockleham - Thu, 17 May 2012 21:00:53 EST ID:sGiHHEVR No.6551 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Where can I go for online French or German shows?
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Shitting Pockleham - Thu, 17 May 2012 22:46:26 EST ID:sGiHHEVR No.6552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
bamp


I'm going to college soon by Doris !IdqxKl.frw - Thu, 10 May 2012 18:50:16 EST ID:WSZcnmEW No.6469 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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and I don't have a particular goal except to learn anything and everything that seems benefical. But then, I do sort of have a goal which is that I want to learn as many languages as I can and be fluent in them (to keep my fluency sharp I thought I'd read in different languages, I already read a lot but I only know English). What kinda prospects can I look forward to with this kind of skill? Got any tips? Which languages would be condusive to learning other languages? I'm starting with Spanish just because I live in California. What other languages do you think I should learn after spanish? How hard is learning a new language? Also, I won't be using Rosetta Stone, I'll be taking classes cuz fuck Rosetta Stone.
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Nigel Murdbury - Thu, 17 May 2012 08:10:09 EST ID:ixx7icVG No.6545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6541
>lots of years of spanish + 1 year of the others will make you reasonably proficient in all them
This is completely false. It's better to learn latin before any of them so you don't confuse the shit out of yourself.
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Betsy Nabbleforth - Thu, 17 May 2012 11:15:13 EST ID:+5aC9iau No.6546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6545

Spanish and Italian in particular, their phonologies are incredibly similar. French and Portguese are less similar in terms of phonology, so French and Spanish might be a good compromise.
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Walter Suttinglet - Thu, 17 May 2012 13:49:22 EST ID:qtyLlpwm No.6548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6546
Yeah, do this. I wish I realised that before I took Italian, although I like it more than I do Spanish now.
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Doris !IdqxKl.frw - Thu, 17 May 2012 14:02:39 EST ID:WSZcnmEW No.6549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Right, thanks for the tips guys

just cuz this interests me so, I think I'll learn just because

I may be learning, reading, writing new languages till I'm old even if it doesn't make me any money
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Henry Bemmerbanks - Thu, 17 May 2012 16:38:56 EST ID:p3I46kty No.6550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good idea to start with Spanish. don't get a university degree in languages whatever you do, complete waste of money and not worth any more than a normal exam. Also you learn slower in university and they impart you with this damn smugness that will make everyone you meet hate you.

Here are just some of the gazillons of free resources for learning Spanish:

Dictionaries:

http://www.rae.es/rae.html - Official Dictionary of the Royal Academy of Spanish
http://www.wordreference.com/es/ - All purpose dictionary
http://etimologias.dechile.net/ - Etymology Dictionary
http://www.languagerealm.com/spanish/spanishslang.php - Slang Dictionary
http://www.linguee.com/ - view words and phrases in context with side by side professional translation

Learning sites:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/spanish/
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Esperanta Reformo by Matilda Gunnerketch - Thu, 10 May 2012 20:53:38 EST ID:wsUYQzf7 No.6485 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ĉu iu ĉe 420ĉano parolas esperanton?

Se jes - kion vi opinias de ĉi tio:

http://emberesko.tumblr.com/post/22776048213/esperantaj-reformoj-ni-faru-gin

(These are a list of reforms proposed for esperanto, in the name of reform and a new outlook for a new age: sensical changes, not radical (unlike the conservative cult-like Zamenhof venerating masses of esperantists) ).

If you do not know Esperanto - why? This isn't so much an interrogative "why not, what's wrong with you?" type question, but a legitimate question to discover reasons. If the reason is "there are more useful languages to learn" I find this one very interesting because Esperanto can be learned extremely fast and with little effort (really, I have barely even read any of the learning books, myself).
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Archie Wallysare - Wed, 16 May 2012 19:38:48 EST ID:AfLOOFp5 No.6530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6529
Actually my family is from the Czech Republic and I speak it pretty decently.

Enjoy never being a slav.
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Faggy Duvingforth - Wed, 16 May 2012 20:01:25 EST ID:bGgbz49q No.6531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6530
I don't care what you speak, you're ignorant about Slavic languages, especially if you think Slovio is intelligible with Slavic speakers any more than Esperanto is with Romance speakers.
Also Slovio doesn't exist anymore, Slavboy.
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Edwin Nockledale - Thu, 17 May 2012 01:16:17 EST ID:AfLOOFp5 No.6536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6531
What the hell are you talking about, I never said I think Slovio is mutually intelligible with all slavic speakers. I don't even like Slovio (I said it was for slavic fetishists >>6528).

Get off your damn internet high-horse and chill the fuck out, bro.
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Martin Subbletadge - Thu, 17 May 2012 02:47:55 EST ID:h5mT8NFY No.6538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> no real native speakers
> has no social meaning
> is a worthless language
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Henry Bemmerbanks - Thu, 17 May 2012 13:06:09 EST ID:p3I46kty No.6547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6529

I speak 2 slavic languages actually. YOU'RE a ziltch.


Switching languages by Rebecca Gullyworth - Wed, 16 May 2012 22:55:58 EST ID:rFCdgLzI No.6535 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /lang/, was wondering how easy you find it to switch language in conversation, for example if you've come to visit another country with a friend and only you know the language, and your experiences.

As for me, I remember it being bloody difficult. I ended up mixing up words a lot, especially when another language was thrown into the mix (go to France for year abroad, meet Spanish people...go out for a drink and end up asking the barman for deux beers por favor or something like that...hmm). It's hard to keep track of what you're saying.

My housemate is Polish and often turns around after a conversation with his Dad and answer my question with something involving a lot of 'Z's.

How about you then /lang/?
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Martin Subbletadge - Thu, 17 May 2012 02:49:30 EST ID:h5mT8NFY No.6539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>be american
>never have to worry about this

well i guess monolingualism has one advantage...
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Nigel Murdbury - Thu, 17 May 2012 08:07:54 EST ID:ixx7icVG No.6543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I made the mistake of studying spanish and italian at the same time and I do this a lot.

>>6539
Are there no stores (i.e. walmart) that have bilingual signs where you live?
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Thu, 17 May 2012 08:08:44 EST ID:nYY5bl5L No.6544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6535

I still find it pretty tricky, but not so much anymore, especially regarding moving from L1 to L2. Going back is so-so.


just wondering by Emma Pibberleck - Mon, 14 May 2012 22:04:21 EST ID:NlA0Lryr No.6511 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hello to all anons here

I'm trying to learn my third language (german) and I'm worried about it. Everybody knows the importance of practice in order to LEARN and GAIN fluency but you need practice to MAINTAIN a good level at X language

>is there a guy who speaks (master) more than 2 languages? (don't count your mother tongue moron) if so, please tell me how do you practice in order to keep a good level with your learned languages
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Phyllis Goodman - Tue, 15 May 2012 18:44:07 EST ID:bnaTSi9Z No.6521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Languages like German and French are obsolete, German, most speakers know English already, and French is not widely spoken outside of France than you think.

I hope you're not a native English speaker.
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Phyllis Crisslestock - Wed, 16 May 2012 14:52:52 EST ID:AOKCgNXo No.6527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6513
>Languages like German and French are obsolete
>French is obsolete

I agree completely. I deteste french. However, I live in Canada. Everything in the country is in English and French. The house of commons frequently switches languages after every other sentence. The grammar doesn't translate well for English speakers. It's a running joke that the Bank of Montreal, one of the big Canadian Banks, which is shortened to BMO means "Bank Montreal Of " instead of "Bank of Montreal Organization" because it's a play on the way the French throw "de" in their phrases and reverse the syntax of english. "Bean Pole" literally would say "a Pole of Beans" in french.

I did it from Kindergarten through Grade 11. I hate it so much, but it's useful and since I've already devoted over a decade of my life to it I figured why waste my knowledge of the language?
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Isabella Pickham - Wed, 16 May 2012 22:23:46 EST ID:VssIorW5 No.6532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6527
>OP here
well I don't like french veeeeery much and I don't want to learn it, and I agree about the fact that french is spoken in few places (france and canada mainly) and I'm not planning to travel to these countries (unlike germany)
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moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Wed, 16 May 2012 22:25:07 EST ID:4CiGhNIb No.6533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6527
hahahaha bank montreal of. i love that
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Martin Subbletadge - Thu, 17 May 2012 02:51:51 EST ID:h5mT8NFY No.6540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6527
its only a couple of years before some francophobe republican wants to change the name of the statue of liberty to the liberty statue to eradicate all traces of french influence


nederlands by moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Sat, 12 May 2012 22:28:03 EST ID:avmU74pl No.6498 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i want to learn dutch.

can anybody offer some input? like tips, useful websites, or things that are potentially difficult in the language for foreigners?
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Clara Dipperfield - Sun, 13 May 2012 02:27:26 EST ID:+5aC9iau No.6500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6498

http://www.nederlandsalstweedetaal.nl/

Dutch is grammatically similar to German (SVO and SOV word order), but lacks German's grammatical cases. The pronounciation is fairly straightforward, but people who speak standard American and English dialects of English may find the /x/, /ç/ and /ɣ/ phonemes difficult to pronounce, as these aren't present in English (except Scottish English and Scots, which I speak).
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moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Wed, 16 May 2012 22:26:13 EST ID:4CiGhNIb No.6534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6500
thank you!!!! over the past few days i've been practicing the basics.
dutch is way more fun than i expected, actually
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Betsy Nabbleforth - Thu, 17 May 2012 02:22:13 EST ID:+5aC9iau No.6537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6534

Graag gedaan!


Разве это правильное предложение? by John Suddletod - Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:31:01 EST ID:7ZW0OCiI No.4467 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Кaжeтся тoлькo здрaвoмыслящиe люди нaхoдятся в сумaсшeдших дoмaх.

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Hedda Pottingshit - Tue, 08 May 2012 07:13:08 EST ID:yK7H4fYD No.6443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6441
Нe увeрeн, чтo мoжнo тaк нaзвaть - в пoслeднee врeмя бывaю тaм oчeнь рeдкo, в oснoвнoм ридoнли.
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Wesley Buzzman - Sun, 13 May 2012 20:56:15 EST ID:j3Y3iUUq No.6502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Бaмп
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David Buzzridge - Tue, 15 May 2012 20:30:48 EST ID:VssIorW5 No.6522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
(basic level here)

я гoвoрю тoлькo русски
я тoлькo гoвoрю русски

>are both sentences correct?
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Charles Padgededge - Wed, 16 May 2012 02:46:41 EST ID:OxS0Ksk3 No.6523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4467
Both are incorrect.
Right ones:
>Я гoвoрю тoлькo пo-русски. ("I don't know any language except russian")
>Я тoлькo гoвoрю пo-русски. ("I'm able only to speak russian."- I can't write it by hand.)
"русски" isn't a word.
Here you have "whom? Я how? тoлькo do/does what? гoвoрю how? пo-русски."
If here is a language name in sentence, which answers the question how?, it's "пo-language_name".
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David Buzzridge - Wed, 16 May 2012 14:04:33 EST ID:VssIorW5 No.6526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6523
hhahahahaha!!! I'd lol, I totally forgot "пo-" hahahaha XD

thanks for it bro


french ponies by Cedric Bigglesturk - Sun, 13 May 2012 23:17:13 EST ID:OUkuovfr No.6503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF9BDD272407ACEC9&feature=plcp
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Mon, 14 May 2012 06:34:07 EST ID:nYY5bl5L No.6506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6503

日本語のポニごありますか?

Anybody got some Japanese ponies?
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Mon, 14 May 2012 06:35:03 EST ID:nYY5bl5L No.6507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6506

Or Turkish or Vietnamese.

Both of those definitely welcome as well?


Japanese by Thomas Billerwell - Mon, 07 May 2012 03:44:31 EST ID:G000VCWF No.6428 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im going to Japan this year. whats good to see? What are the main phrases I should know other than the basics like Thank you and hello?
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Frederick Pivingmedge - Mon, 07 May 2012 04:44:15 EST ID:hlW+MSJ0 No.6431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_RM8To5mjU
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Tue, 08 May 2012 07:24:21 EST ID:nYY5bl5L No.6444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6428

Learn Kanji, you'll be able to navigate signs and shit fairly well if you get a grasp on the MEANING of lots of Kanji.
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Graham Deppershit - Mon, 14 May 2012 03:43:09 EST ID:D8o/6C6u No.6505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This guide is fairly useful if you actually take the time to read and learn everything in it: https://rapidshare.com/files/2060768662/Japanese_Grammar_Guide.pdf


Spanish Music, rap/hip hop with lots of lyrics by John Pammleford - Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:00:46 EST ID:OoPhKiEK No.6251 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The title pretty much sums up this post. I'm in need of some nice spanish rap/hip hop, and I'm not quite sure whether this belongs in /lang/ or /m/ so I think I'll post it in both places, since I'm not quite sure how fast either boards responds :X

Thanks!
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Eugene Pongerbury - Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:02:11 EST ID:2SWJuud8 No.6267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My favourites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGBvU3_FO0M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAKYgJ3EZh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6GYI41tLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOS38Mq1k0s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQqZ9uBBGiM

Enjoy!
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Hannah Hillydotch - Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:14:16 EST ID:ixx7icVG No.6285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNGmjzlTk8I
They're from Andalucia
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Edwin Bardville - Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:23:32 EST ID:8qDbAIK5 No.6330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Check out Ana Tijoux. She is from Chile and has 2 albums and a mixtape out that are all pretty damn good in my opinion. I am learning Spanish and its helped me pick out a lot of vocabulary. she has a very clear voice and her beats are amazing.
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Edward Cloffinghall - Sun, 06 May 2012 22:58:15 EST ID:YSN7kI9W No.6427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6251

Orishas Cuban hip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUyJ8Zvt74&feature=fvst
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Cyril Peddleridge - Mon, 14 May 2012 01:20:57 EST ID:vHgAHFjP No.6504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i'm not learning spanish or anything nor can i speak it but cafe quijana is my favourite spanish band


Russian difficulty by Hannah Snodwell - Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:53:21 EST ID:tvW7leO1 No.6224 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why is Russian considered so difficult?
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Barnaby Fiblingville - Wed, 09 May 2012 12:25:17 EST ID:wlu1a/xW No.6454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6438

that picture is really fucking dumb, russian is not the mother of the other languages, they are all children of a common language
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Nell Wucklewill - Wed, 09 May 2012 14:29:10 EST ID:6cCjbymG No.6458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>6454
Are you blind?
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Some Nurse !CQr7MX37Ro - Thu, 10 May 2012 14:49:43 EST ID:KWjKAC7I No.6468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I found the pronunciation of Russian and what little I've learnt of other slavic languages quite easy, at least compared to French (2 years of studying... all the silent letters fuck me up).
Obviously there's more to learning it then pronouncing it though, like some have already said learning it is more of a journey; it take's a long time.

>>6454
>>6458 some people don't actually look at pictures; they just throw out impulses.
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Fanny Cishfuck - Thu, 10 May 2012 20:27:48 EST ID:dnIC8Js0 No.6483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6468
>>6453
I've decided to go with Russian due to it's complexity. Thanks for the answers.
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Ian Lightway - Sun, 13 May 2012 00:41:49 EST ID:5E3up1Hp No.6499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6424
This is the point.


Bringing back "thou" by Beatrice Gendlefuck - Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:17:56 EST ID:sZHRvk7Z No.5901 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I would dearly like to have the informal second-person subject pronoun "thou" brought back into modern English, along with its other forms and its conjugations. Many people mistakenly believe "thou" to be a formal term, but that was not really the case in most forms of English. It was an informal, friendly, or at times even haughty way of addressing someone. It was violently suppressed by fanatics who felt it was improper.

I think it is charming, familiar, friendly, and useful. Many other languages have an equivalent, such as the German "du", the Spanish, French, and Portuguese "tu", and the Hindi "dhu", all cognates to the English "thou". Being able to indicate familiarity this way, I think, would be nice, and it would add charm to English, like the use of "vos" adds charm to Argentinian Spanish.

Here is how "thou" works

You (as subject) = Thou
You (as object) = Thee
Your = Thy
Yours= Thine

Conjugations for "thou" are not very hard.

You have = Thou hast
You love = Thou lovest
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Clara Simmerham - Wed, 02 May 2012 15:34:04 EST ID:tHa2q/Nm No.6364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6363

I should say, it hasn't been removed from the language ~entirely~.

It's fallen out of general, obviously. But that's what the thread's about; bringing it back.
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Samuel Honningketch - Wed, 02 May 2012 20:52:15 EST ID:tHa2q/Nm No.6366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Someone shared an interesting literary reference. Apparently I have a kindred soul in the 19th century.


"Like it? It is more sweet to me than I can tell. Say `thou',
also, and I shall say your language is almost as beautiful as mine."

"Isn't `thou' a little sentimental?" asked Jo, privately thinking
it a lovely monosyllable.

"Sentimental? Yes. Thank Gott, we Germans believe in sentiment,
and keep ourselves young mit it. Your English `you' is so cold, say
`thou', heart's dearest, it means so much to me," pleaded Mr. Bhaer,
more like a romantic student than a grave professor.

-Little Women, by Louisa May Alcott
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John Pipperwater - Mon, 07 May 2012 04:19:33 EST ID:h5mT8NFY No.6430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6364
well im american and ive never heard it (but we dont get many north englanders round here)

im not gonna try to stop you from saying it, im just pointing out that it futile

but i feel that this thread was created more for discussion than seriously changing a language and its been interesting
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Rebecca Fonnerhall - Sat, 12 May 2012 15:43:28 EST ID:NvjsQ0z9 No.6496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6318
what about yinz. Make it global
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Fucking Grimcocke - Sat, 12 May 2012 21:16:22 EST ID:ZuwioHxI No.6497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>6430

Thou thinks it is futile, but we shall see.

Btw, I think just generally using third-person singular verb conjugations with "thou" works pretty well; it's already been done for at least 50-odd years now in Lancashire so I figure it'd be much easier than trying to bring back specific "thou" conjugations. "Thou art" is probably an exception, because "thou is" is cacophonous.



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