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Going to western Poland - what languages are acceptable? by Michael Mickelburgh - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:57:10 EST ID:/Su9xYY4 No.12727 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok, so I'm off to Poland from the UK in a few weeks, for the first time ever - Wroclaw to be exact - and at first I was planning to use it as a gateway to Berlin, my ultimate destination for NYE, due to cheap flights and coach fares, but I had a quick browse of some pics and a read of the wiki page and it seems like quite a nice place in itself.

So I've decided to hang out there for a day or two first, and possibly even spend NYE there instead, mainly because Berlin, while fun, will be super expensive and likely full of hipstery tourists... So I've started having a look at Polish.

The language is brand new to me, but I have a good grasp of German, and a higher than average level of English; I also know a little French and Spanish. I am planning to learn Polish anyway, as I'm planning to explore Poland more in the coming year, but didn't expect to be staying there this soon - I did have an idea that I could maybe get by with German in the west, maybe not so much further east, but a friend who's just returned from travelling around the Krakow area (south central) advised me not to bother with German at all, and just use English and Polish...

So now I'm a little confused, and there's no way I can learn enough Polish between now and NYE to be confident enough to try using it when I go then.

Any thoughts / advice?
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Terrence Hoffmann - Sat, 17 Dec 2016 16:49:37 EST ID:IUvvhsfo No.12728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12727

Fuck this board is slow...
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Oliver Mirrytit - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:42:02 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Poland is something like 99% ethnic Polish, there are almost no Germans. Poles speak Polish. You're confused because you're completely uninformed and think with political map colors instead of facts. Soviets booted out Germans from what is now Western Poland. Earlier Germans antagonized Poles with their expansionism and kulturkampf. There is no reason at all for German to be used in Western Poland.
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Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:51:57 EST ID:A5EX172g No.12737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12734
Well, when I was in Poland there was the odd person in the west who did indeed spoke German, much better than English. Though from my experience there are very few people who speak either German or English and you'll just have to get by.

You'll be fine OP. Poles are fun, enthusiastic people who will make the effort to communicate with you despite the barrier.
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Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:54:25 EST ID:A5EX172g No.12738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12737
lol... didn't realise your OP was 2 months ago. Man this board has gotten reeeeeeeally slow.


Learning German by Ebenezer Sishridge - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:18:10 EST ID:S+cf3bfL No.12675 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So basically I've spent the past 24 years of my life never planning anything or putting any real effort towards anything I've done. I scraped by a university degree in a subject I will never get a job in and I've been consistantly underemployed in shitty jobs while living at home with my parents and masturbating constantly.

At the beginning of the year I went on holiday to Berlin and had the time of my life. Since then I had 2 cups of coffee one morning and basically planned out the next 6 years of my life. I wont bore you with the details but the most important part is that I will be moving to Berlin after my brothers wedding in May next year. This gives me 9 months to save up as much money as possible and, more importantly for this board, learn as much German as I possibly can.

The last language I learned was French. I remember making fun of the teacher by asking her if she "got lucky" because she came in wearing the same clothes 2 days in a row. I do not remember anything else.

Obviously the deciding factor in all of this will be my own discipline and work ethic, but I've come to 420chan for just about every major thing in my life since I was 16 and like hell am I going to stop now. Does anyone have any helpful links/stories/tips/anything-at-all they can give me about learning German?
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Emma Pockwell - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:04:48 EST ID:uEpWFA1y No.12707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12706

Just remembered - apparently if you're planning to immigrate to Germany, which I am, the government offer free courses - havent really looked into that yet though, I want to actually move here first

Also there's a European standard of language skills, from A - C, with C2 (I think) being complete fluency - there are a few websites you can test yourself on for free - I've managed to get to B1, pretty much the minimum standard to live and work here, in just a few months

nb
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Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:20:20 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12707
any test that does not have a speaking and writing component will not give you an accurate gage of your level.
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Nathaniel Gorryspear - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:46:22 EST ID:ZGFxMxgk No.12730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy fuck you guys are great at supplying absolutely nothing and ignoring OP
babaum.com I use to memorise nouns and verbs
clozemaster.com for after you've been studying for a while
duolingo.com is beginners heaven
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWFUZUlX9n11X4w5QctOQQZG german movies
Youtube channels
slow german, Get germanized, bookbox german, deutsch für euch, Heidi oficial

I reccommend keeping a notebook to write down words zou dont know and translate
Google Translate is onlz good for some individual words, otherwise it's pretty much shit.
tatoeba.org for sentences, I haven't used it so I don't know if its good or not
bab.la another one I haven't really used

good luck
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Nathaniel Gorryspear - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:47:15 EST ID:ZGFxMxgk No.12731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12730
babadum.com I meant
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Albert Hosslebanks - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:59:05 EST ID:49sOThSC No.12736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive been doing 10 minutes of duolingo a day for 2 years on german, and I visited austria the other month ago, and while it isnt german, they genuinely thought I was from Germany to some extent because of how I spoke it

let that settle in


Sticking my Foot in the Dutch Kiddie Pool by Nell Muttingworth - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 21:22:22 EST ID:RH+DJ+MI No.12729 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I have duolingo to practice my French. Im not horrible and Im not great. Im getting better as I have regular conversation in the language. My goal is to live in Quebec for awhile since its bilingual.

But I have an interest in learning Swedish,Dutch and German since I may also desire to go those places. I know all three have similarities and differences. Though I am unsure of how great those differences are. I've messed around with German before and it seems like something I could pick up. I just tried Dutch and its like a different universe I've heard it on some TV shows and movies and its sort of weird even compared to Swedish.

Do you guys have any advise suggestions or questions?
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Frederick Gucklestone - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 00:02:11 EST ID:yrO7zLOv No.12732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12729
Just so you know, despite the presence of a large number of anglophones in Montreal and some other areas, Quebec is not in fact bilingual. Quebec is technically monolingual with the official language being French (Quebecois).
New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province in Canada.


ZUINOSIN by Alice Gendledadging - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:39:46 EST ID:JLWMsRTy No.12725 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can anyone who knows Japanese please take their time to tell me what these songs are about? What is he singing about? This shit is top-tier insanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZajXaVinOf0&t=3s


wolla wat is deze by Lydia Peshdock - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:26:49 EST ID:hbxr/Ldy No.12723 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone show me some love? What on earth does this say? :(
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Basil Tillinggold - Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:52:04 EST ID:MEa4WanU No.12724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dunno. The script looks to be Balinese though.


I wanna learn a new language. by Koshka - Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:55:20 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.10102 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I really don't care if I ever use it. I want to learn a new, less common language.
Here are my stipulations:
It has to have an alphabet. It can't be like Chinese or Japanese where you learn 100s of symbols, stroke counts, and pronunciations.
I was looking at Tamil or Balinese, but I don't have a reliable source to learn either of them. Any suggestions?
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Augustus Sagglelock - Sun, 06 Nov 2016 22:22:04 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>10102
Teaching yourself the Hebrew characterset and abugida character order (A B G D, etc) can get you far if you're at all interested in Semitic linguistics.

The nice thing about abjad alphabets/languages (Hebrew, Phoenecian, Syriac, Mandaic, et al) is that they tend to follow the exact same pattern with regard to letter order (see above), with Arabic being the main exception (it has about twelve additional letters in the standard alphabet, if memory serves). Obviously you have to learn the individual characters and pronunciations, but having a common ground will definitely make it easier to branch out. And if you decide to teach yourself Yiddish for whatever reason, there are only about five additional glyphs to learn.

Hope that helps some. Shalam.
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Augustus Sagglelock - Sun, 06 Nov 2016 22:28:19 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12703
Oops. Meant abjad the first time, not abugida. See
>>12700 if you want an abugida. derp.
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Matilda Sindershit - Mon, 14 Nov 2016 09:58:27 EST ID:YrYpk7Xo No.12715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Учи русский. aлфaвит нe лaтинский, сaм язык — aбсoлютнo пoeхaвший
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Fanny Billingfoot - Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:14:23 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12715
cyka блядь
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James Clobbershit - Thu, 24 Nov 2016 03:34:51 EST ID:Y2hK87M9 No.12719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12695
Polish doesn't use the Cyrillic alphabet


Until by Fucking Decklehodge - Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:43:00 EST ID:MZHbqQXT No.12718 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi, smart people.
I have argument with my friend, about whether or not you can use "Until this day" in sentence. She's arguing that you have to put certain time information after "until".
THX for answer, reference would be perfect

BTW some reference would be perfect
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Hugh Funkindock - Thu, 24 Nov 2016 16:35:59 EST ID:a8IBsJss No.12720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does the expression make sense? Is it unlikely to cause confusion? I would say yes and yes and burn your friend at the stake.

>BTW some reference would be perfect
That's not how language works jolly african-american


Finnish by Cornelius Ginkinsudge - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:47:59 EST ID:4HnKYQAn No.12641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I cannot, for the life of me, find an answer for a simple question on any of the sites on which I study.
I generally know when to use the nominative, accusative and partitive, except for the verb "to be." I at one point thought it would just be the nominative, ex. "Se on taulukko. It is a table" from skimming walls of finnish text, but I later read that the accusative may sometimes look like the nominative. I have no idea which case ending I should use with "olla" as the verb, and it seems so fundamental to everyday speech that I want to get it straight in my mind.
>inb4 learn a useful language
Finnish is wierd and fascinating, albeit useless.
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Reuben Cirringshaw - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 23:05:44 EST ID:iUxAqiYX No.12647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12642
At one point on that, it talked about the "ambiguity" of the accusative which is what I'm trying to understand.
AP on homo vai AP on homon?
I know that traditionally, "It is I" is preferable to "It is me" but I don't know if this is the same in finnish.
As for books, I am lacking. I've searched around, but there are never any reviews for them because few people are interested in finnish. If you know of any that exxplain grammar well, it would be appreciated.
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Shit Honeywater - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 03:30:52 EST ID:vyWRFM4Q No.12680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Se on pöytä
>It is a table

Both "se" and "pöydä" are in the nominative case here.
I only know some simple Finnish and Karelian but I figure olla always has nominative case. Same as with many other languages
(Fun fact. Accusative is not used here because accusative is used for objects. This is not an object because objects can be promoted to subjects through passivisation.
>My uncle loves a plumber > A plumber is loved by my uncle
This transformation goes OK because "a plumber" is the object, thus accusative
>My uncle is a plumber > A plumber is been by my uncle
This transformation is no good because "a plumber" here is not really an object, thus not accusative)
Of course you can also use various locative cases depending on what you want to say.
>Se on pöydällä
>It is on (the) table

And as you asked for literature:
I can recommend "Finnish: An Essential Grammar" by Karllson. If you find a torrent called GRAMMAR PILE 3.0 it's in there, and I'm seeding it.
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Graham Drizzlenag - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:34:30 EST ID:kC4WcnXW No.12681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12680
>that torrent

holy shit I fucking came
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Eliza Sunningridge - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:36:31 EST ID:NVLrxJ4E No.12682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12680
I just downloaded the book. It's very comprehensive. Thanks bruh.
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Clara Drubberlat - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:39:35 EST ID:PZICZQ5a No.12717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12682
Also I think Iso suomen kieloppi is good. It's descriptive grammar for those who can read Finnish


what does it mean? by George Nasslegold - Mon, 31 Oct 2016 04:13:39 EST ID:nKlONaKn No.12698 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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pic related
language enthusiasts?
bwh_bw-errytime
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Hamilton Sillertitch - Tue, 08 Nov 2016 17:39:55 EST ID:tBCLFBlr No.12705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
大仏。。。本当に奈良だった。
Daibutsu.... It was really Nara.
(daibutsu are giant statues of Buddha and Nara is famous for them)


Learning Italian at home by Phineas Blackleman - Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:33:27 EST ID:IAKVe98s No.12687 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Any advice for learning Italian at home?
I won't have a lot of time to spend on it maybe an hour a night.
I would like to be able to have intermediate conversational level.
Any useful websites or textbooks?
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Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:22:39 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12687
Future learn has some free courses on it at the moment.


Mandarin self-learning by Albert Turveystock - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:08:37 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12618 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I need some kind of tone-learning program for Mandarin that I could turn on and practice daily. No money here, so it has to be free or piratable. ;_;

In exchange I recommend Mitchel Thomas method for basic Chinese. Way better learning curve, than most other stuff.
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Angus Gumbledotch - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:39:17 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay, so no programs for tones... How about writing? I learned English that way - by reading. There's a firefox plugin that allows to view meaning and sound of every Chinese character, so this shouldn't be that much different after learning the very basics of the language? If so, are there good logogram programs?

I'm big on interactive stuff, since it's easier to engage in small doses on a daily basis and keep a steady pace, than with something like a handbook, which dishes out chapter-sized bites.

Also, where do I get a big list of tone drills? I only see small crappy sample sizes.

PS It's easier to go from traditional to simplified, than vice versa, right? I don't plan on learning to write, so trad would seem more optimal (I also have a history buff streak and learning older scripts eventually is a possibility).
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Polly Fuddleshaw - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 22:17:19 EST ID:W3n1K4f3 No.12684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12618
ChineseSkill is a pretty nice app because it has a huge vocabulary, teaches tones, strokes, sentence structure, accurate audio, it is free, and lets you skip sections if you're already learning by taking quizzes.

If you have a teacher and want to get better at pronunciation start with the pinyin alphabet. Then basic introductions, numbers, colors, directions.

A pretty childish drinking game they like to play is to pick a subject then go around a circle and name an object in that category (eg name a fruit), if you repeat an object or you're wrong you drink.

If you're into pop culture they have a ton of talk shows and tv celebrities, musicians, reality TV is somewhat sane.
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Phineas Blackleman - Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:32:46 EST ID:IAKVe98s No.12685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey OP you should check out memrise.com, it's completely free, and you can get the app free too. Just sign up for mandaring and it will drill words based on the level you are at. It works pretty well, it will sense what words you are having trouble with and then will drill them more. They have HSK 1 to 6, I highly recommend it.

加油啊!
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Phineas Blackleman - Sat, 22 Oct 2016 21:08:41 EST ID:IAKVe98s No.12686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12634
Any chance you were there for that huge explosion?

I saw it in the distance from my flat and for real I thought that war had broke out.

Scary shit anon
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Anita Flowershitter - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 08:02:08 EST ID:ux7B0QWz No.12735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12618
just bundle together an anki deck and download a mass of audio files for a bunch of words and you're set, god lazy people.


TEACHING ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE HORROR STORIES ETC by John Nicklefield - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:13:29 EST ID:mPRdrUeT No.11631 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've just finished my Cambridge ELT qualification, got a job offer (signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours) and I'm now about to move away to a Eurasian metropolis where I will be undertaking my first English teaching job.

tell me about how snotty the kids are going to be
any horror stories (to tell camp-fire style)?
been figuratively fucked in the arse by a language school?
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Hugh Puckledale - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 13:17:09 EST ID:HU6JyZmP No.12645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How difficult is it to teach English in the EU? What do I need to make it happen?
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Henry Fanwater - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:37:30 EST ID:Bdrk/Gkl No.12669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12607
It's the spelling exceptions that make it a chore to read and write, but for speaking it's quite simple.
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Clara Worthinggold - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 00:29:59 EST ID:mVf2/T6i No.12670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12645
Can't speak for other regions, but our English teachers in Scandinavia are usually (read: Never heard of this not being the case) locals with a BA in teaching (specializing in English) or an MA in English (for high school-equivalents).
You might have better luck in the PIIGS (sans Ireland), but even then it's likely they've got locals who know more about English grammar than you ever want to, even if they have a weird accent.

tl;dr: Speak the local language fluently and have an MA in English as a foreign language, and you'll get to compete with the thousands of other candidates who can do the job and know the local culture better than you are likely to ever know it.

Not that it's impossible, it's just not Asia-tier levels of easy to get a job just by being white and anglo, and you're more likely to have to do some private classes with annoying business-types who speak shit English if you go do it.

Tbh, I'd recommend just getting a job in a major Russian town instead (got a couple Chechen friends who say it's easy if you speak good English) and flying to the EU for whatever you can't easily/legally do in Russia,
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Doris Fuggleville - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:23:52 EST ID:EyvlnHM8 No.12672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12644

I think you need a bachelor's degree from a university. My sister used her degree and has been teaching English to kids in Japan for four years.
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Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:27:16 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12644
You need a CELTA course. In Europe it pays between €5 and €25 an hour, depending on the country. You have to start in the countries that pay fuck all and build experience. No one will hire you with an Online Cactus course or any of those websites that offer weekend courses.

>>12645
Getting a job is not hard if you have a CELTA qualification and if you get the visa and do all the paper work yourself. Schools will hire British and Irish people before you, and only hire Americans when they are desperate, because they hate doing the paperwork. Soon though British and Americans will be equally undesirable, so there will be more demand for you, the population of Ireland is only 4 million after all, they can't exactly teach all of of Europe English.

(I am an ELT teacher who has worked in 3 EU countries)


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