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Japanese project by Polly Pockman - Wed, 21 May 2014 17:55:04 EST ID:XarxYvp0 No.11405 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'll just leave this here.
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Polly Pockman - Wed, 21 May 2014 17:55:50 EST ID:XarxYvp0 No.11406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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And this.
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Sun, 25 May 2014 09:04:31 EST ID:fenC7AZH No.11422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
for the lazy

http://igg.me/at/kanjiproject

Let's get this shit funded guys, it's an invaluable resource!
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Polly Bindleworth - Tue, 27 May 2014 07:04:40 EST ID:CGb0mvw5 No.11428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11405
I don't know what this is, but I like my cutey cartoons with the funny voices so i'm behind this shit all the goddamn way! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Shitting Blungerhodging - Wed, 28 May 2014 08:41:20 EST ID:c6hl5F2A No.11431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11405
How does this compare to other resources for learning Kanji? I'm using 'Heisig - Remembering The Kanji' for example. I'm not really sure what this is about.
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Faggy Wallerstock - Wed, 28 May 2014 11:24:11 EST ID:XarxYvp0 No.11432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11431
This isn't exactly a "resource for learning kanji," it's a database for kanji/words that can be/will be implemented in "resources for learning kanji."

For example, current resources (dictionaries and such) do not include pitch accent information, homonyms, particle information for verbs, phonetics, and other informative data, because there is no database which includes all that information. That's what this resource is about.

In your case of using RTK, you'll for example be able to go to Jisho.org (or a mobile app), search for a kanji and you'll know exactly which phonetic (RTK 2) the kanji uses, and search for other kanji with the same phonetic. And that's just one of the cool things.

So instead of this being a "resource for learning kanji" limited to a single website/app, it's a database that I'm hoping will become a part of all other current and new resources.


Phrases by Phineas Blonkinkine - Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:23:10 EST ID:gTTjGEaT No.11282 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's the difference between "hit and miss" and "hit or miss"?
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Ebenezer Fevingpod - Sun, 27 Apr 2014 21:55:11 EST ID:8mXUT+M/ No.11302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get endlessly confused between "hit and/or miss" and "touch and go". Can anyone see what the difference is?
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:24:06 EST ID:BZL5XxYY No.11304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11302

'Touch and go' basically means that the result was unknown, and that sometimes it appeared that you would get one result, then it appeared you would get another, and the signals you were getting meant that at various points, you alternated between two or more different expectations. until you eventually got the q result. Usually you only say it when you get the result you were hoping for, that is, if you were to say "Well it was touch and go for a while" the implication is that you eventually got the desired result. But it CAN be used sometimes when the result was one you'd hoped you wouldn't get. But making it sound natural in that context is very difficult, so basically only even try if you're essentially native level.
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Jarvis Brockledadge - Sun, 18 May 2014 06:42:58 EST ID:Yl4D+dWG No.11392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
personally, i have never heard anyone use "hit or miss". were someone to use it, i would probably just have thought they were someone who got the phrase "hit and miss" wrong
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Reuben Clopperforth - Sun, 18 May 2014 11:18:33 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Set phrases, those little things different languages do that aren't quite idioms but more than words, often act like single words. Sometimes they don't - their components are usually analyzable so you get things like "long and wide" where German has "weit und breit", but usually things are just taken as one "object". Just like no one analyzes why become is be+come or forget is for+get or how decimate sounds like "ten-ify" no one checks for the logic of some of those phrases unless things are glaringly problematic.

It means that the phrases start to evolve like words. Since the stress pattern puts the conjunctions between to stressed syllables they both reduce, and /ænd/ > 'n /ə̃(n)/ and or /oɚ/ > /ɚ/. Both have a tendency to just be /ə/.

So - they're really equivalent. They only way someone should see a difference is if you directly contrast them. Or they're overly pedantic. Or reading too deeply into things.

also

"Touch and go" for me means "no idea if it will work, no real confidence that what I'm doing will work out, but I'll proceed anyways". It describes the process. Building a computer for the first time is touch and go, you're still so unconfident that you're constantly checking to make sure you didn't fuck up, not that you could tell anyways.

"Hit 'n miss" for me is "I get inconsistent results and don't understand why". It describes the result, usually of a luck-based phenomenon. So if you're playing a game, and can use a strategy based on luck, it's hit and miss, because sometimes it will hit or miss, but won't be consistently one or the other.
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Charles Shakespear - Sun, 25 May 2014 15:12:28 EST ID:v8HtwEYi No.11425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11282
Depends if you hit, or if you miss.


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this is no use to anyone
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Whitey Fopperridge - Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:14:29 EST ID:y33i0tVC No.11182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>In canada
>Immigrant fresh off the boat
>In class
>Chinaman sitting next to me
>"Hi. My name is Durka Durka"
>"Hi. my name is David"

Do you faggots realize just how pathetic you sound?

Changing the name your parents gave you just so the white man feels a little more comfortable approaching you. Its not just sad, its down right pathetic when anyone who knows anything knows that this country was built on the blood and bones of thousands of chinese labourers
Fuck you david you cocksucker
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George Ginningstone - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 04:54:08 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11182

Beats having 10000 people calling you "ducksaucefuck" instead of your real name every day for the rest of your life. Do you really want to teach English monoglots/French-monoglots/the combination thereof how to pronounce tones, retroflex consonants, palatal consonants, schwas, allophones, schwa-medial blending, and unaspirated voiceless consonants every fucking goddamn time you meet them? Maybe if they were immigrating to Viet Nam or Kerala it'd be practicle to keep a real name but not fucking canadastan.



Aunt:
ʈ͡ʂɑ˞ɻ˥ ɭɨŋ˥˩
Uncle:
pɪŋ˥

Friends:
ʎʊŋ˥˩
t͡ɕiɛn˥, I call him t͡ɕiɐ˞ɻ
pʰəŋpʰəŋ, who gets called pʰɝ̃ɻ
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George Ginningstone - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 05:00:30 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11186

Also adding the one named Leung is Cantonese and she was never given a Chinese name because they use British names there and speak like half/half English and Cantonese anyways.
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Hannah Goshbury - Sun, 25 May 2014 04:35:06 EST ID:7t5vBXSp No.11420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11182
Are you a Chinese Canadian...If not then shut the fuck up.
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Charles Shakespear - Sun, 25 May 2014 15:10:28 EST ID:v8HtwEYi No.11424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> get zlotky
> fuck sukas


Choctaw resources by Eugene Farrywater - Sat, 22 Feb 2014 22:32:05 EST ID:4YH8v4ik No.11099 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I've been meaning to learn Choctaw for heritage reasons, but I can't seem to find any books/ resources for learning it. Anyone able to help a nigga out?
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Hannah Cadgemutch - Sun, 23 Feb 2014 21:00:40 EST ID:/B/BFMOS No.11100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As with all natural languages with few speakers, chances are good that there are at most a couple of useful books written by academics. What you want to be looking for is a grammar book, a dictionary, and a native speaker to teach you.
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Hannah Goshbury - Sun, 25 May 2014 05:04:22 EST ID:7t5vBXSp No.11421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So for heritage reasons I'm assuming you mean you're of Choctaw Heritage.
Are you connected or disconnected form your home community. If it's at all possible I really recommend going to back to your community to find resources. Partly because Indigenous language resources are comparatively but also because the resources that ARE accessible are flawed and misinformation, especially online resources that are very frequently compiled by third party non fluent speakers. One example that I see frequently is Ojibwe language sites/apps saying boohzoo means hello...which is true but it's a formal greeting that is more for matters like ceremony than day to day conversing.
Also there's the matter of which dialects are from your heritage.

So yeah, best thing I can recommend is get in person experience. Familiarizing yourself with the orthography and sounds first is a good starting point. And the exploring some of the morphology.
This has been what has made my experience starting to learn an indigenous language somewhat successful. Knowing the orthography and sounds, I can read most of language even if I don't know what it means, and knowing a but of the morphology I can figure out the meanings of words I've never encountered before.

Idk sorry it's like one twenty AM and I'm tired and a little stoned I hope that was helpful.
Good luck.


Japanese manga/anime resources by Nicholas Clayfield - Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:59:05 EST ID:c6hl5F2A No.11102 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I can understand very basic Japanese but it's very hard to understand it when it's spoken. I'm at the point now where I want to transition into reading mangas and watching animes.

I tried finding animes and movies online but their spoken japanese is too advanced for me to understand. Even manga's like Doraemon, which I thought would be easy to read use far more vocabulary than what I have learned so far. Is there any easy reading and listening material that I don't know about?
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Hugh Shakefoot - Sun, 20 Apr 2014 02:56:39 EST ID:c6hl5F2A No.11271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11262
I would pick up a a book called "Genki" If I were you. I have been using it to learn all my grammar and words that I know. The problem with sentences in Japan is they don't have any spaces, but you need to parse the words. The only way to be able to tell where to parse words is if you know the all grammar rules used in the sentence. Every word has a different conjucation depending on it's own tense (to run is "hashiru", not run "hasanai", ran "hashitta", didn't run "hasanakatta"), then there are the particles が, か, は, も, ect. Also the best way to build up that vocabulary is to download Anki (which is a program with flashcards) and download decks containing the words you want to lean ( I know there is a deck that is for Genki too. If you don't use Genki you can at least find Tae Kims Guide online and that is free too, + it contains all the same grammar rules you need to learn.

I know that words can have different meanings when you start combing nouns together. For that I don't know any easy way except to put them together and try to imagine what they mean or find out what context other people use them in. If you use google translate you won't learn the language that way but If you put all the kanji stuck together without seperating it, then you can probebly see the meaning in it's proper context. But Kanji is different from hiragana and katakana, in fact it often feels like a language of its own. So Japanese is practically a language within a language. It's actually easier to learn some basic Japanese before worrying about kanji. But learning Hiragana is crucial.
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:08:21 EST ID:VKUrAz63 No.11278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh shit nigga wot? You wanna learn Japanese through Anime? Here:

http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=2643&p=1
http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F

You're going to have to resync the subtitles 99% of the time, but that's easy. Then run subs2srs on that shit and you will be totemo jouzu in no time.
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:09:33 EST ID:VKUrAz63 No.11279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11278

Oh yeah, can't forget this for Manga learning goodness:
http://www.livingjapanese.com/p/reading-pack.html
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:22:05 EST ID:VKUrAz63 No.11281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11279

Fuck Fuck. Sorry for triple post, but who cares, this place is too slow anyway. I really recommend that you pick up the Genki series of Textbooks and work through them, and to then pick up Tobira and work through that before you try and tackle subs2srs. It's much easier to pick up vocabulary and understand the more complex and/or slangy grammar you'll encounter in Anime if you have a foundation in the basics, otherwise you're building a castle on sand.

This guy also does some good videos, but they're real infrequent:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3TeKPPCb1wcxrrbqhxpICA

And again, you should probably have a firm base in basic Japanese grammar or else you won't TRULY understand just how insightful these unfortunately rare lessons are.
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Hannah Goshbury - Sun, 25 May 2014 04:19:23 EST ID:7t5vBXSp No.11419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If watching media for teens/adults is too advanced for you then wouldn't watching/listening to something for children work.


Translation needed by G - Fri, 16 May 2014 16:05:31 EST ID:wcroYsxC No.11385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Need to know what this east Asian symbol means so I drew it up in MS pain and am posting it here. Idk what language it is Chinese Japanese Korean Vietnamese idk.

My boss's daughter has a tramp stamp(For anyone unfamiliar with American culture, tramp stamp = a tatoo on the lower back, about 8 inches above the butt.) with that symbol. I wanna know what it means and what language it is, but am reluctant to ask her, despite that fact that she's rather flirty with me when we're alone I feel weird asking her. And I have a really good working relationship with my boss, so obviously I can't just ask him "Hey what does that tattoo above your daughter's butt say when translated into English?"

Also on the subject of Asian languages, there's afew parts in Kill Bill Volume 1 where they speak Japanese without any fucking subtitles. Always wondered wtf they were saying. Specifically the scene with Julie Dreyfus's character talking to the Yakuza guy laying on his back in that special VIP room of the night club. Anybody know?
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Phineas Millynet - Sat, 17 May 2014 04:25:12 EST ID:/B/BFMOS No.11388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Hey guys I saw this thing drawn by a tattoo artist in an American shopping mall and I drew it from memory. What does it mean?

I don't know, let's say this:

http://www.nciku.com/search/zh/detail/%E6%9C%AB/28053
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Reuben Clopperforth - Sun, 18 May 2014 11:43:13 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The way you scribbled it really mucks up the way you read it. It could be end, rice, origin (the pan in Japan), I could see even leak or go in it, or book or fixed. Arrow or heaven, too, perhaps?

The characters are usually composed of constituent parts, and that's the problem here - is the top stroke really that long? Is the bottom turned v shape really so dragged to the left like that (does it look vish or more like a man's legs as he stretches to a side for martial arts)? The fact that I can see 즤, which actually is korean, in that is how bad it is.


Try this: with https://translate.google.com/#zh-CN/en/ make sure that in the lower left corner you're on the "pencil".

Then carefully draw the character from the most upper right stroke to the most lower left stroke, make sure you only do it in the same number of strokes as there are in the character (minus 1 for every ¯| because that's one stroke but there isn't there so don't worry). Don't go over or under the stroke count; that's how the computer looks up the character. Try to get the size ratios down *exactly* too, then pick the characters that you get.
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G - Tue, 20 May 2014 18:53:10 EST ID:wcroYsxC No.11400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I asked her. It means "Friend". And wtf are there seriously no Kill Bill fans here who speak fluent jap?
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Jenny Dartcocke - Wed, 21 May 2014 07:13:52 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11400
so... 友?
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G - Wed, 21 May 2014 19:08:51 EST ID:wcroYsxC No.11407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11404

Yeah looks kinda like that. Maybe the artist wasn't entirely perfect in his calligraphy. I just remember it as looking kinda like an elephant with a giant gun mounted to his back.

I have a much better memory than anyone I know personally in terms of information(despite my rampant drug and alcohol abuse), but I sure as shit do not have an impressive photographic memory. Whenever they have those savant-like dudes on TV who can remember every single insignificant little detail of every day in the past 50 years, I'm never impressed. I'd be impressed if they could answer questions like "In the 3rd Lord of The Rings Novel, what was the 43rd word to appear on the 397th page?". Remembering an exact image of something is much harder .


Best Books by Phineas Honeyman - Thu, 15 May 2014 01:51:35 EST ID:qizTVHik No.11380 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Best books on anything specific to languages or linguistics in general. I'm interested in learning about languages because even reading posts here reinforces how much I really don't know.

I've read a bit about information theory and have my own general sense of understanding, and language is just one interesting facet of information. So to me it'd be interesting to comprehend how languages work and the differences between them, and how they change over time, and as everything else seems to work the same way, it could possibly provide some insight into some of the more complex understandings in life, or at least train and push your brain in such a way that it could take on more complex information.

The way I see it, music and other forms of art are forms of communication, information being transmitted to someone else, and depending on their background, it may speak to them. When you get more into arts, you can understand more of what they're doing or at least enjoy it. When you're an artist yourself you can see it moreso. You don't have to be proficient in all the arts to try and interpret what's going on, but when you yourself develop a more creative and open mindset, you can appreciate and understand things of other mediums. I'm tying this in with language helping understand these creative abstract tidbits of information, as it changes as well.

A modern application for all of this as well is artificial intelligence. There's an argument that if you have completely "mastered" a language, then you know everything and understand everything. If a machine could somehow understand rules of languages and be able to follow change, then it could be intelligent. In a sense, anyway, the way that there is no difference from an illusion if you don't know it's one.

There are many chatbots and all there, we even have NJ here, so everyone is familiar with an A.I. processing language. But there's a lot of stuff out there now, a lot of stuff I don't know about, there's a lot of stuff coming in the future, and even more I don't know about.

How all of that ties together with consciousness and the universe in general, basic yet seemingly unpred…
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Augustus Huttingson - Thu, 15 May 2014 02:48:56 EST ID:hPhCch4K No.11381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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linguistics major here,

Truth be told, I haven't read many books on linguistics per say, but rather I've read countless scholarly articles and scientific research papers along with several textbooks. One that I'd recommend are any of the 'language files' editions, this will provide you with a basic understanding of linguistics itself.

Apart from theory, there is quite a bit of tangible information regarding linguistics such as sounds (phonology), structure (morphology, syntax) and meaning (semantics).

However, many of the 'whys' behind a lot of what goes on in language remain largely unanswered, which is what makes linguistics so theoretical.

The question being, what strikes your fancy? I see you've mentioned computational linguistics; a field I myself am in no way versed in. A lot of what your post is centered around (how language works and the differences between languages, how they change over time, etc.) are questions many linguists themselves ask.

As for books though, I guess you should try your hand at anything written by Chomsky, or Labov if you're interested in sociolinguistics.

There is actually one book out there that really strikes my fancy called 'Don't Sleep, There are Snakes' by Dan Everett. The book is about an Amazonian tribe whose extremely 'limited' language brings back to light the age old Sapir-Whorf hypothesis (fascinating stuff, look it up!) I will most definitely purchase it.

If you have any other questions about language, I'll try to answer them myself!
Forgive me if I don't have all the answers, as linguistics is actually a very cavernous subject matter.
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Phineas Honeyman - Thu, 15 May 2014 04:07:15 EST ID:qizTVHik No.11382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11381

Great reply, better than I hoped for.

I just started reading the book I posted today, and have been enjoying it so far, and really what caused me to post this, because I got a lot of those little subconscious epiphanies just reading the beginning.

What I found a bit interesting is the author mentioning how "shut up" was once pronounced "shaddap". He says each generation may relax their accents on parts of words and pass it to the next generation, who will do the same thing, until eventually words will no longer have their original sounds. He also talked a bit about how once compound words get broken down into more words, with examples of Latin -> French, but still a bit over my head to absorb all that I've read.

The Language Files looks interesting. It looks like it'd be beneficial for self-study, being 700+ pages, and an added bonus that it's $32 on Amazon, while some of the others are $45+.

"A riveting account of the astonishing experiences and discoveries made by linguist Daniel Everett while he lived with the Pirahã, a small tribe of Amazonian Indians in central Brazil. Daniel Everett arrived among the Pirahã with his wife and three young children hoping to convert the tribe to Christianity. Everett quickly became obsessed with their language and its cultural and linguistic implications. The Pirahã have no counting system, no fixed terms for color, no concept of war, and no personal property. Everett was so impressed with their peaceful way of life that he eventually lost faith in the God he'd hoped to introduce to them, and instead devoted his life to the science of linguistics. Part passionate memoir, part scientific exploration, Everett's life-changing tale is riveting look into the nature of language, thought, and life itself."

That does sound good.

The book I read(though never did finish) that got me interested more in just the exchange of information in general is "The Information: A History, A Theory, A Flood" by James Gleick. It goes a bit into language there, and starts off talking about an African tribe that could communicate through the accents of their drum beats. I'll have to check it out or buy it and finish it, I just started to lose interest near the middle as it was as interesting as the first half, but there's more to read.
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Augustus Huttingson - Thu, 15 May 2014 16:48:12 EST ID:hPhCch4K No.11384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11382
>"shut up" was once pronounced "shaddap". He says each generation may relax their accents on parts of words and pass it to the next generation

Vowel shifting is something that has occurred quite a bit with English, as changes in pronunciation occurs quite a bit as well. The word "goodbye" is actually a truncation of "god be with ye" Language is under a constant state of change and development as words enter and exit existence and usage all the time, but the rate at which pronunciation changes is usually quite slower. This is seen most often with loan words. My favorite example is the word 'checkmate' which hops a few languages back to the Persian 'shah mat', meaning 'the king is helpless'. Anglicization demonstrated in language is also seen a lot in names as well.

That being said, analyzing historical phonology is a dubious task at best, as the evidence supporting pronunciation change isn't always conclusive, let alone existent.


comment dit-on "I want to suck her toes" en français? by Priscilla Duffingwater - Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:36:21 EST ID:JWfHUhIZ No.11320 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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"Je veux sucer ses orteils à elle" ?

dont ask why I need to know...
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Shit Blatherfoot - Tue, 13 May 2014 12:06:28 EST ID:bajoLiRG No.11374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11358
but son/sa/ses just refers to a third person. it doesn't say anything about gender. I was taught to specify the gender you add à lui or à elle
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Edward Pabbledale - Wed, 14 May 2014 02:11:46 EST ID:bajoLiRG No.11376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
can someone explain the grammar behind the sentence "Jamais je ne t'oublerai"

I know jamais means never, je means I, ne iis for negation and t'oublerai means will forget you. so why isn't it "Je ne t'oublerai jamais"? it seems the original means never i won't forget you or something like that.
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Lydia Pittwell - Wed, 14 May 2014 03:24:56 EST ID:YCqAN8Xm No.11377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11376
It's similar like "Never will I forget you." instead of "I will never forget you." when you want to stress 'never'. For the strict grammar rules I'm afraid I can't help you though.
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Lydia Pittwell - Wed, 14 May 2014 03:25:24 EST ID:YCqAN8Xm No.11378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11377
similar to*
nb
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Molly Merrywodge - Wed, 14 May 2014 07:16:21 EST ID:JZi2WmK1 No.11379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11374
I don't know who taught you that but it's wrong. Yes the possessive can be ambiguous gender-wise, but it's just the way it works and you have to refer to the context to know the gender of the "owner", and that's it. I mean when you read the sentence in english, you know that we're talking about a girl because it's "her" toes, but who is "I" ? male or female? unless you have some context you don't know and yet you don't feel the need to add anything to specify the gender.

>>11376
Pretty much this >>11377 , it's just a way to put emphasis on jamais. But it's quite literary, I'm guessing you found it in "A la claire fontaine", il y a longtemps que je t'aime, jamais je ne t'oublierai etc :) you can hear the emphasis when you sing it


pushing south by cursive - Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:04:29 EST ID:wVsBYtdh No.11299 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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was recently in mexico. first time in the 2nd world. i learned a lot about what it means to be an american and now im so sick i can barely sleep. spanish is becoming my first language these days.
Can anyone talk to me about central america and the general equitorial area of same and south america?

my spanish is a wierd pidgin of espagna, puerto rico, SW USA and now Yucatan, but i want to be more natural as i head south.

These language tag youtube videos are... idk the latin american/carribean related ones are full of xenophobic infighting that spill over into Noreños and Surreños and mexican.
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Hamilton Pengerchatch - Mon, 12 May 2014 15:34:05 EST ID:t+Bi15u9 No.11368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11366
You realize both of these countries are extremely violent. If anything, Nicaragua is a safe bet.
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Ebenezer Lightshit - Mon, 12 May 2014 17:09:06 EST ID:vnCJt5Hl No.11369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mexico isn't "second world", it's "third world". "Second world" countries are countries like China and Cuba.

of course, the whole "first world", "second world", and "third world" thing is basically meaningless ever since the end of the cold war.
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Ebenezer Lightshit - Mon, 12 May 2014 17:12:10 EST ID:vnCJt5Hl No.11370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, the best country in Central America is Costa Rica.

Costa Rica has a decent standard of living for the middle class, which is pretty big. It also has a lot of natural beauty.

But it is expensive as fuck if you want anything even vaguely approximating a US American lifestyle.

You want a disposable camera? Be prepared to spend a few hours looking at a half dozen shops before finding one, and don't be surprised when it's $30.

You want canvas sneakers? Hope you have a C note to exchange at the bank.

Also if you're into video games, bring your system from home because game systems are insanely expensive in Latin America and hardly any stores even carry them.
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Mon, 12 May 2014 19:27:35 EST ID:zzXo8E69 No.11372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11369
Some parts of Mexico are second world, some are more third. The country as a whole still has a long way to go but it's gradually getting more worldly and unimporverished.
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Mon, 12 May 2014 19:28:13 EST ID:zzXo8E69 No.11373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11372
unimpoverished*
I don't even think it's a word but I spelled it wrong


Korean by Wesley Gaffingchit - Sun, 27 Apr 2014 14:06:26 EST ID:fARQ5kmN No.11300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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안녕하세요, 420chan. 저는 한국어를 공부해요. 한국어 말해요?
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:20:11 EST ID:BZL5XxYY No.11303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11301

This is actually why it's good to divorce your thinking from romanisations as fast as possible. Helps you focus on the actual sound being made and less on how you would read the romanisation of it. Same main reason people should never touch ローマ字 in Japanese until after they've become conformatable with the kana.
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Hamilton Honeyhood - Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:14:40 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11301
I red something a while ago that was a really nifty explanation for things, but I kan't find it on me right now. Iirc it was something like

the horizontal stroke seems to be "dark" vowels (Korean used to be more like Manchu, Mongolian, Turkish with vowel harmony though probably unrelated). If it's Over it's O. if it's Under it's... oo, I guess?

Then the vertical is the bright ones like "In front of" (i) or something and the After (a). don't quite remember. But I know double strokes make ai, ei or ou, uu, idk. and regular diphthongs are created predictably (eg oi or ao). I forget how the Altaic vowels were written (ö and ı, which I think iirc are oe and eu).

Sorry
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Hamilton Honeyhood - Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:19:34 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11317
Also quickly adding, the first Korean romanization system was made by a guy who didn't know any latin-written language and made the system according to a misunderstanding of how western vowels were written, and when it came time for Korea to pick an official method they stuck with it purposefully because it fucked with westerner's abilities to learn the language. Only minor variations exist between North and South, they both keep to that system despite a large number of more scientific or intuitive systems being proposed.
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Hamilton Honeyhood - Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:45:15 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11317
>>11318

Found it!!! disregard my attempts at explaining the pronunciation, in school I only had to learn the alphabet's history for when I was dealing with it.
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Maury V. - Mon, 12 May 2014 15:21:54 EST ID:Hd4I8QkM No.11367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
안녕! 나, 저는 공부했어요. 한국에서 훠있어요. 미아, 한굴말 잘멋무합니다. :(


lil poem by Rebecca Wovinghall - Tue, 06 May 2014 04:06:16 EST ID:zWxdUGqx No.11348 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm Dr Jekyll, and Mr Hyde, the doc ain't in right now, he may as well have died, some might say murder, some say suicide, I say heartbreak because she lied.
I wanted love, not for me but for that slut, so she could love herself and keep her legs shut, she doesn't get it, I wonder if she ever will, one thing's for certain, I will not love her still.
I'm so sick of this being how the world works, so many sluts only chasing jerks, leaving the realest going berserk, the games are easy but immature, I'm sick of playing, I just want to be sure. I want something real, I need her to feel like I feel, but she won't, her hearts cold like steel.. In the winter.
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cursive - Tue, 06 May 2014 12:27:11 EST ID:wVsBYtdh No.11350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11348
i never lie. neither does my ex partner. she is having trouble finding love without lies now. i know that love is a drug and i love it when im high, when im crashing off oxytocin i get my carebear, my dildo, my god damned razor blade and change my skin tone though.

this is for you. thanks for sharing your hurt, but yo, let it go. what are you really looking for? be happy and smoosh with happy people while you both can.

if you want to give what someone wants to get that's good. if that person wants to give what you wanna get, then that's love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRVOOwFNp5U
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Phyllis Dartwell - Tue, 06 May 2014 23:46:33 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
heres my friends

Hong Kong Hmong Xiong Maiblong used the tongs with prongs to pick up the long song of pong champ Ron Wong about dongs thongs and bongs until the strong maybe Zhuong Aung Nagong Fong songed a gong to tell her she was wrong.

he dunno how 2 poetry
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cursive - Sat, 10 May 2014 10:08:44 EST ID:wVsBYtdh No.11359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11351
theres that mandarin(?) one thats like 50 characters long and it's all differently toned Shi
about like a lion in a cave or something

and the the one about pi pi pi pi i forget


new world order of languages by Edward Bunwater - Sun, 04 May 2014 21:49:31 EST ID:hUPsbMgy No.11341 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The English language is just a mish mash of other white honky langages, thats why they call it the mashed potato johnson of all langages, man spellign is hard the rulz is weird and there are no gender differential words like "he" or "she" or "bitch" so how am i supolosed to know whos on first or whats what. i want us all to speak some other langauge, not spainish cuz i take that in high school and that shit fucked up my brain son, it was all like china did dim di cmibong, like dafuq. and not chinese because that sound like a bunch of pots and pans rolling down a hill, when i learnt to spaek china man talk i sayed ni how, yeah thats hello bitches, said in moon speak. what ideas do you people have for a world o language, i say we make it up, we just make it up and dont tell anyone, ok lets do it...
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Shitting Fanhall - Mon, 05 May 2014 07:31:37 EST ID:JWfHUhIZ No.11343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cool story bro

every language (at least the ones that matter) has borrowed words from other languages.

english is still a purely germanic language in the way it forms sentences. take a foreign word, like karaoke, and you can make a verb out of it, karaokeize. I karaokeized that faggot.
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cursive - Tue, 06 May 2014 12:23:17 EST ID:wVsBYtdh No.11349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11343
hahaha
the world is pidgin poop. languages are easy and we dont need one world language.
i beefed with an italian chick over this 13 years 4 months and 27 days ago and i finally got it once i ended america's xenophobic stranglehold on my language center.

every day it becomes more and more clear.. even two people using their native tongue have misconceptions.

twinspeak is really the closest thing to communication one can get and if you dont have a twin just take dxm and smoosh yourfaces together.


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