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Recommendations for books and such by Oliver Snodwill - Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:21:19 EST ID:77pjFCQY No.11214 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I wanna learn Japanese for this girl. We both think speaking it is adorable. I really want to be able to speak it for her. Does anyone have any recommendations on books or things to learn with?
Archie Mommerway - Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:32:42 EST ID:ESIT302+ No.11232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Follow this guide:

Γεια μας by Molly Gassleville - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:58:33 EST ID:FH5H5iHX No.11159 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Συχνάζει κανένας Έλληνας σε αυτά τα μέρη;
Fucking Dopperford - Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:50:25 EST ID:VvbtnLtU No.11183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Αν 2-3 φορές την εβδομάδα θεωρείται συχνά, ναι.
Barnaby Bliblingstone - Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:20:05 EST ID:t+Bi15u9 No.11215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Greek language is so fucking weird. Looks like great on headline of a restaurant though. Give is credibility.
Doris Hosslepedge - Fri, 04 Apr 2014 12:57:34 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Spelling as old and fucked as English? Sounds like Slavic with a bit of English again for good measure? Reverso-lisping? Tastes like shitty coffee?


German/Spanish by kafei !EycUKpKaWM - Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:27:08 EST ID:ENfYP4Yb No.11208 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Not so much as torn between these two, as I want to learn both. But which of the two should I take up first? I'm more interested in German culture, but my girlfriend's Puerto Rican and her father's command of English isn't all that conversational. Resources, etc. for both? Native speaker of English and all that jazz.
Faggy Nunningshit - Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:42:43 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As a German speaking former student living in the middle of fucking California, go with Spanish. Come back to German when you have time, but give your attention first to Spanish.

Get teachers and people eager to speak with you, ideally who already know the language.

My approach if I were doing things all alone, which isn't really something I'd recommend, is to generalize the grammar (get used to the word order mostly) and phonotactics and orthography then start with maybe Swadesh (stable common words) and use-frequency lists and build out from there, generally by basic stuff like household stuff and then topics you enjoy through music, tv, books, and so on.

Keep eyes out on how they might use a phrase differently; like in German abstract nouns get the article even though otherwise they're used pretty much the same as in English (the car, das Auto; but love, die Liebe). Or other things like in German "auf" means on (strictly like on top of; on the table, auf dem Tisch) but gets used at times we might use in (in German, but auf Deutsch) or up (it's cognate to up, actually; give up, aufgeben (in a sentence: er gab sich selbst auf, he gave himself up). Be wary of false friends, bekommen means get or receive in German, I think embarazad@ means pregnant in Spanish with the real word for embarrassed being like avergonzad@.

So, like, I don't know really anything at all about the Spanish language. About German I had a really wonderful professor and also picked up a lot through music, but 99% was my teacher. Material wise, beyond teachers, I don't know. I would just recommend wiktionary and wikipedia for now. I think there's also a wikibook on learning Spanish. There's one on Manchu, so there's probably one on Spanish.
cursive - Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:07:14 EST ID:lZBHQPWt No.11212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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omg do spanish with a pr focus first. gotta make that daddy tranquilo.
if you love german culture, like i did, you'll pick up german eventually.

speak both equally: 5 years Spanish, 1 year German

better to do mexican. more useful in Cali plus you and dad can bro down over the pr way to say it. whichll make him like you more entiendes?

Torn between French and Portuguese by Isabella Fiblingstock - Thu, 20 Mar 2014 13:52:14 EST ID:nyyMpnLV No.11171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My native language in English and my second language is Spanish, which I speak quite well (mostly due to me living in Central America for nearly 2 years).

Obviously, I will always be perfecting my Spanish, but I would like to move onto studying a new one in my spare time.

I have chosen either French or Portuguese. French only because it is the second official language of Canada (where I am from) and if I ever wanted to take position in Latin America with the Canadian government, embassy or consulate worker as an example, French would almost be necessary.

As far as Portuguese, I have more interest in the Language and believe it would have more business practice as I do have some small businesses here In Central America and have been wanting to go explore Brazil for opportunities. As well, there are a number of interesting places in Africa that, according to Wikipedia, speak Portuguese, and I have always wanted to live a year or so in Africa.

Another part of it is choosing the one that will be "easier" coming from Spanish, I know that both are Romantic languages with a similar grammatical structure, but still not sure.

Lastly, trying to choose which of the two, from a traveling/meeting people perspective, would be more useful. I understand that French is more widely spoken across Europe than portuguese, but ever other person from Wester Europe I meet speaks English anyways.
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George Ginningstone - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 04:11:58 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But Polish has the same bad head cold vowels? ą ę

Also languages with palatals sounds like toothless grandpa languages (Irish, Polish, Hungarian) and languages with retroflexes sound like stupid pirates (Polish, Chinese, English)

Not that I don't love them... I think German is beautiful but everyone says it's angry. But to me, Armenian is angry, or Türkish which always sounds like it doesn't give 10 shits and is mocking you ("öbeğine bağlı bir dildir" eRbaygheeney barl ew (not i-oo but the single sound you make when you're revolused in disgust ihh) beer dildo). German is beautiful except when it's supremely dümb wüth thösö stüpüd ümläüt vöwöls (say all that with duckface) but doesn't have the disgusted sounds that go with it, just clarity, making them sound like they suddenly broke more than mocking.

I think it's a Romance language thing. French used to sound like Portuguese, which sounds more like Spanish. Then again, it might be because it was the only "respected" language the English dealt with for thousands of years and then that thing with napoleon which bewitched Russia.
cursive - Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:10:26 EST ID:lZBHQPWt No.11192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brasilian Portugues specifically, given your location. After 5 years of formal Mexican Spanish I had between a 60-80% comprehension rate for port in general. That's with no actually learning taking place.

They speak French in afrika but afrika is disgusting. I think you'd spend most of your time guessing who actually speaks french and speaks it properly while you try to find medicine or a doctor. Or clean water.
Nigger Senkindetch - Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:08:31 EST ID:CTSsBlEQ No.11193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Portugal is "Port of the Gauls" after all
FYI that's not the right etymology. It comes from the latin Portus Cale. I was taught that the element 'cale' was cognate to the word for 'warm' but apparently that's not right either. There are a couple of theories it seems but none that link it to 'gaul'

> The etymology of the name Cale is mysterious, as is the identity of the town's founders. Some historians[who?] have argued that Greeks were the first to settle Cale and that the name derives from the Greek word kallis (καλλις), 'beautiful', referring to the beauty of the Douro valley. Still others[who?] have claimed that Cale originated in the language of the Gallaeci people indigenous to the surrounding region (see below). Others argue that Cale[2] is a Celtic name like many others found in the region. The word cale or cala, would mean 'port', an 'inlet' or 'harbour,' and implied the existence of an older Celtic harbour.[3] Others argue it is the stem of Gallaecia. Another theory claims it derives from Caladunum.[4]
Ernest Gumbletirk - Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:50:40 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm aware of it, the demonym's by far the most most parsimonious explanation though.

Remember the letter G came late, like near the end of the Republic late. Gale is as valid a reading as Cale. Additionally

When saying Gaul I don't actually mean the Gaulish people in sensu strictu. G - A - L is a common demonym across the Celtic peoples like Theodish is for Germanic peoples or Slav is for the Slavs: GAuL; GAeLic, GoideLic, GouezeL, GALicia, GALenica, GALatia, GwyddeL, and Roman names of the CAL and CEL form (eg CELtic); this term derives via regular sound change from an earlier *weidelo, which incidentally left val- and gual- roots all over Normandy. Which ironically was borrowed into Germanic as *walhaz meaning foreigner; ironically because the Saxons would give the name to Cymru - Wales, unaware that it likely was the original word for all Celts for themselves.

By the way, reread your paragraph:
>Still others[who?] have claimed that Cale originated in the language of the Gallaeci people indigenous to the surrounding region (see below).
>Others argue that Cale[2] is a Celtic name like many others found in the region.
>Others argue it is the stem of Gallaecia.

It should be known etymologizing Celtic people names is greatly troubled by how much Celtic Europe is ashamed to be Celtic. I'll acknowledge other theories, I just find the demonym etymology more likely by a longshot.
Jack Fadgefack - Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:18:40 EST ID:JuRcassM No.11199 Ignore Report Quick Reply

they are both easy as fuck if you know spanish, just learn one first and then the other. start with french because it is more practical.

You are falling for sample bias, the only reason you think most europeans speak English is because you wouldn't have met them if they didn't

Switching head spaces by cursive - Thu, 27 Mar 2014 21:58:36 EST ID:lZBHQPWt No.11194 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone have any tricks or techniques for shifting from one language to another quickly?
I had a moment when I was in Europe during January where I got locked out from communication on a plane. Native American English speaker, had been speaking german for maybe 4 days, bit of french for one and picking up scraps of the semetic and Indo families from my date and from cab drivers all week.

Menu in 1st class was mostly italian, which I can read but when the stewardess came to take my order, I couldn't speak ANY language at all. It was really wierd.
Edward Pittville - Fri, 28 Mar 2014 00:06:27 EST ID:GXTRO8Qx No.11195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Were you on DXM at the time?
cursive - Sat, 29 Mar 2014 00:53:43 EST ID:lZBHQPWt No.11198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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most likely sitting on the come up. it was breakfast after all.

World language? by Doris Chaggleludge - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:42:25 EST ID:2iTXTrc7 No.11158 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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That's pretty racist against aliens
Rebecca Fanspear - Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:23:13 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.11163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's like saying Spanish is a national language, so speaking Spanish is racist to other nations. It never specified which world the languages were from, so Alien languages would still be "world languages". nb
Archie Fandlelodging - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:44:41 EST ID:jJS1Ui+s No.11191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what about gas aliens that live in nebulae? huh? what about interstellar space dust aliens? hmmm? what about 15,000,000,000 degree aliens that live in stars? HMMMM? what about hyperintelligent shades of blue that live in fifty different places at once? HUH? WELL?

i hope you're ashamed of yourself.

Swahili: predicative adjectives by Reuben Mittingstock - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:30:19 EST ID:nn+kp04F No.11188 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello everyone,

I have a question about how to use adjectives predicatively in Swahili. Predicative means as a predication, so that it translates as the English "to be blue/big/broken/hopeful".

A blue whale would be "nyangumi buluu" (that is, a blue whale, not green or pink.) How would you say "the whale is blue?"

"Our room" would be "chumba chetu". How can you say "this room is ours"? Would it be "chumba chiki ni chetu"?
Rebecca Fellerman - Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:32:27 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't speak the language, but from what others have told me, it's kinda like in English. So if I have it right, use the ni- or si- (not) copulas between the phrases depending on what's appropriate. I read something about a w- copula too, but I think it's just turning adjectives into nouns with an abstract-noun prefix.

Another thing I've seen is no copula, but a reduplicated adjective (labeled "adjective phrase". No affix. So if I got this right, "The sky is red" would be

Mbingu nyekundu nyekundu.

Unless I'm positively retarded, big possibility.

Anyways google found me this: http://www.academia.edu/4750517/2005_Grammar_Sketch_of_Swahili

world languages by Priscilla Hipperlane - Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:43:29 EST ID:AWQ4xXvp No.8429 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>no world language
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Angus Diblingladge - Wed, 05 Mar 2014 08:40:46 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By that logic the world should speak Ancient Egyptian, considering the chain:

  1. sinaitic script from demotic
    2. Phonecian
    3a. Greek
    4a. Latin
    5. Runic
    6. imitory scripts like Cherokee or Canadian syllabics
    4b. Ancient Persian (technically Greek)
    4c. Armenian
    4d. Glagolitic
    7. Cyrillic
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Samuel Cammletirk - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:29:55 EST ID:Yl4D+dWG No.11141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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time to lay off the speed angus?
im only kidding. dont worry
Hamilton Domblebod - Fri, 07 Mar 2014 02:39:30 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe. I haven't been getting like any sleep lately either. I'm embarrassed at what I've written the past few days and yet I can't stop.
Jenny Brubberridge - Sun, 16 Mar 2014 17:05:27 EST ID:fdd1LATe No.11162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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English is going to take over for now,

then comes the day of language-free communication and thought! (If that does happen)
Angus Harringpane - Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:54:54 EST ID:MvImOqs8 No.11176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey man, these are the sort of posts I come here to read. We need more speed.
Someone get /stim/ on /lang/.

Bianary by /a/ friend - Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:32:34 EST ID:JxvQPT4Y No.11111 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone speak binary? You know, like 11111.

I'm trying to learn some computer code, and i'd like some help. does anyone have a good resource?
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Phoebe Blackville - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 02:56:09 EST ID:nn+kp04F No.11117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not a language
Cyril Mavinghirk - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:48:23 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.11149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Caroline Geckleman - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 02:01:40 EST ID:0sqwbhHH No.11150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
binary solo!
David Snodson - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:54:25 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:34:19 EST ID:VKUrAz63 No.11178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure if you're trolling, but if you want to understand what binary is, and how it works, and how it encodes information, check out "COmputer Science for Everyone" (inb4 child rape). Best explanation of binary, and programming, ever.

Livemocha by Fuck Benkinwell - Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:35:16 EST ID:WWXYyZUj No.11146 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i want to do some extra exercises in spanish since i'm learning it. I came across livemocha, is it helpful or is the community good ?
Isabella Blytheridge - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 05:38:58 EST ID:/B/BFMOS No.11148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was alright. Rosetta Stone bought it and killed the existing community outright. As one stop shops go, the next best thing today might be italki.
Fanny Fibbleridge - Mon, 17 Mar 2014 06:22:04 EST ID:JuRcassM No.11164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there are more free Spanish courses on the Internet than anyone has time to use, here are some of them: https://sites.google.com/site/learnspanishdirectory1/
Nigger Farringway - Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:02:00 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.11172 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Translation help? by George Pommlebury - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 02:25:07 EST ID:r++l4rx9 No.11147 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey there
Does anyone feel like translating a doujin for me? Or know where someone would be willing to? I'm looking into learning some Japanese but I'm not nearly at this level yet.
Yet it's hentai, so nsfw.


Thanks in advance. Also does anyone know of any good resources to learn basic japanese? I'm not talking speaking/understanding vocally, but to the point where I can read shit like this.
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Caroline Geckleman - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 02:05:41 EST ID:0sqwbhHH No.11152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
correction, the site doesn't have anything for Japanese yet. My bad.
Fanny Pockman - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 05:29:28 EST ID:c6hl5F2A No.11153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well OP, I could translate some of the kanji for you but that's all i could do. If you still need it that bad head over to jisho.org where you can find a kanji maker, so you can just go by the way it looks to work out what the words are. Better yet, goto a chinese resturant and say you need help translating it and get them to read it back to you.
David Snodson - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:07:46 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's your general level? Absolutely no experience or what?

I don't speak it, but I'm able to parse it somewhat. Do you know how to look up kanji? And read the kanas?

Hiragana and katakana (probably all you'll run into) you just need to memorize (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kana). For Kanji, learn how to count strokes and recognize radicals - the semantic components of characters. Kanji aren't wholly unique, there's like 150 something "base" characters that get arranged into characters. I found wiktionary amazingly helpful when I was learning some Chinese, but any kanji/Hanzi/hanja dictionary that lets you look things up by radical should help. It's not really learning the language what I'm doing but it could help you do what you want.

Installing some languages packs - Microsoft lets you do that for free from the start menu - and a keyboard with an input method can allow you a tool to check your work (that you ided it right for example). Google translate, though poor, can at least give you an idea if you're heading into the right direction.

The next thing after that is marking noun phrases off; they're generally indeclinable and marked by predictable frequent postpositions/particles like ha, ni, no, he, wo. At that point you have verbal constructs - learning conjugations will take a while. But you might be able to fudge things when you get the meaning of the root down.

If you get the theory of grammar, this is a good enough introduction as to what to expect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar ; but you'll need to look up and learn the bits and pieces in the system (it has a little bit of it). You could also try - when you think you got the verb isolated - just typing it into a machine translator; after a while you might get an idea of if it's wildly off or not...

What you'll end up with will be shit, so you'll probably have to rephrase it so it sounds right.
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Edwin Bumbledon - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:14:20 EST ID:Yl4D+dWG No.11156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did he not mean that link he posted?
William Socklestone - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 17:09:05 EST ID:dlc6mnrV No.11157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I did, the picture was just a related funny image I had saved, but that's cool as well.

Thanks for all the info, that was a lot of help. I've had a friend try to help me get the jist of what to memorize to be able to read manga and the like but I had a lot of trouble understanding (He was Vietnamese, so there was quite a bit of a barrier when English was his third or fourth language).
As for experience, yes. None. There were no courses offered at my high school or university so my entire exposure has been from the internet (Which has turned out to be pretty informative).

Yeah I've heard that site is great for romantic languages and the like.

Thanks, didn't know there was a site like that. It may take a while that's better than nothing. Who knows, maybe it will help me to learn some characters like >>11154 said.

Thanks everyone!

Nederland by Fanny Wennerhall - Fri, 07 Mar 2014 07:39:41 EST ID:m7YLfxlu No.11143 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Soup /lang/

Anyone here learning Dutch? I'm English, and I've always wanted to be multilingual. I'm seeing a Flemish girl now, and that's given me a good incentive to learn Dutch. So, anyone got any good tips on Dutch? Any good films? Books?
Phineas Sipperstot - Fri, 07 Mar 2014 20:35:00 EST ID:1AksULXm No.11144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dutch guy here.

It's a hard as fuck. I'd try learning German instead, it's a lot the same but slightly easier + it's a real busines language.
Graham Brumblefan - Sun, 09 Mar 2014 06:07:21 EST ID:NqJL1ymG No.11145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What he said. Learn German. Then pinch your nose and sprinkle it with ijs and french words and you'll get niederlandisch.

also always pronounce sch like you're from mordor instead of like sh

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