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Change my accent [FR To English] by Alice Bandleshit - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:38:53 EST ID:c4t3ew2h No.12630 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys,

Any serious, good audiobooks about learning new accents and especially overcoming your native one?

I'm French and although I try as much as I can to sound 'American' (i.e. basically some blend of what I heard and learnt), there's always that small French accent residue coming back that I really want to get rid of.

Currently it's really not bad at all, or so people tell me. But my true desire is to make it -almost- impossible to tell by -most- people.

I feel I'm jumping ahead here but I'd also love to be versatile and have more than that 'Standard American' accent I was talking about. I'd love to do a Boston accent, some New-Yorkers one, some ebonics, etc.

PS. Just in case, the reason I ask you this is because I'd love to do voice over work in America (I realize the chances are slim, but oh well). But it's hard to believe in when you transpire even a faint of the French accent.

One last random question: Is it me or do impoverished black people from the West Coast sound almost the same as those from the East Coast? Maybe I don't have the ear for that, but I always saw a big resemblance when I would listen to them talk.

Anyway I'm talking way too much now. I just really want to perfect my accent. Really, really badly.
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Fanny Cummleforth - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:18:09 EST ID:nfM/QbD0 No.12659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, you should look into the dialects spoken around New Orleans, Louisiana. They would likely fit with your native french tongue and the whole creole/cajun environment is one that is often used in scenes requiring voice over.
Cedric Lightlock - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 02:05:31 EST ID:mlSne5jo No.12744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This and CFT's list of accents are considered the friendliest of all the state's.
I'd love if every foreigner learned this accent. 'be a lot less asshole foreigners then.

Then again, I'm definitely biased as are we all.
Now the northeastern accent of influential white-folk on the other hand...
David Gocklefuck - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:41:29 EST ID:ZJoLioYR No.12792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I heard french people's mouths get permanently reshaped by all those nasal vowels. It may be impossible bub
Rebecca Billingway - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:47:51 EST ID:Rr05TByP No.12805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Intonation is what will tell people if you are French or not, that is easier to fix than perfecting how you pronounce all the words as well as the spaces between them (e.g. He's a cat = he ZA cat. .. I can't think of proper examples now but there are places where Zs just appear out of no where)

Anyway this will be useful to you to practice individual words and their sounds:

and this will be useful for you to look up the pronunciation of words (recordings by natives):

Make sure you know the IPA, and make sure you get an American version not a British one.
Then practice every day, talk to yourself a lot, be a perfectionist about making each word sound as similar as your ear will let it sound.

Learning as an adult and not a child, you'll always have a bit of an accent, but you can make it almost inaudible with loads of work.
Edward Soshstock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:29:36 EST ID:cddIAxeE No.12808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's a book : A Practical Introduction to Phonetics by JC Catford


It teaches you to pronounce a great range of vowels and consonants so you can get very conscious of your accent and change it deliberately.

Death of Sex by Mr. Mister - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:45:39 EST ID:aJOvpW6s No.12787 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm looking for a word that would connotate the deletion, destruction, demise of the the concept of Sexuality, aesthetically, either through the suffixes '-cide,' or '-phagy;' or transformed as to be more easily used with '-phagus.'
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Hannah Pebberspear - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:53:34 EST ID:OjXvSxyu No.12793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ebenezer Lightwater - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:09:16 EST ID:Y/6xwwJi No.12797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that more seems to suggest death BY sex
not a bad way to go, but somewhat innaccurate
Graham Daddlebanks - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:45:19 EST ID:TkO24V91 No.12802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Graham Daddlebanks - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 00:47:19 EST ID:TkO24V91 No.12803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn auto-correct and failure to proofread. Eroticide?
Simon Senderhedging - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:57:09 EST ID:FjAbvXN/ No.12804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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learning fast by Jarvis Fiblingwill - Sat, 29 Oct 2016 17:18:43 EST ID:ab2kpKVs No.12697 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Never learned a new language before. Want to be atleast somewhat conversational in Spanish in ~2 months. I'd say this should be realistic as long I'm willing to devote some serious time to it right?

What would be the best methods/resources (preferably free) out there to study? Looking for somewhere to start.
Graham Bandlesuck - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:15:02 EST ID:Z50DQ37b No.12708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably similar to Emma Pockwell's posts here:

Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:18:53 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12709 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Use as many methods as possible so as not to get bored. Make sure to study at your level though, sometimes people think they will advance faster by studying advanced stuff.... they don't.
theawsu - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:38:56 EST ID:1cHaoIW+ No.12742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I can't lie, the BBC languages website has a pretty neat webseries called 'Mi Vida Loca' that I used to watch the shit out of when I did year 7 Spanish. It's got a lot of useful stuff in it.

Going to western Poland - what languages are acceptable? by Michael Mickelburgh - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:57:10 EST ID:/Su9xYY4 No.12727 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok, so I'm off to Poland from the UK in a few weeks, for the first time ever - Wroclaw to be exact - and at first I was planning to use it as a gateway to Berlin, my ultimate destination for NYE, due to cheap flights and coach fares, but I had a quick browse of some pics and a read of the wiki page and it seems like quite a nice place in itself.

So I've decided to hang out there for a day or two first, and possibly even spend NYE there instead, mainly because Berlin, while fun, will be super expensive and likely full of hipstery tourists... So I've started having a look at Polish.

The language is brand new to me, but I have a good grasp of German, and a higher than average level of English; I also know a little French and Spanish. I am planning to learn Polish anyway, as I'm planning to explore Poland more in the coming year, but didn't expect to be staying there this soon - I did have an idea that I could maybe get by with German in the west, maybe not so much further east, but a friend who's just returned from travelling around the Krakow area (south central) advised me not to bother with German at all, and just use English and Polish...

So now I'm a little confused, and there's no way I can learn enough Polish between now and NYE to be confident enough to try using it when I go then.

Any thoughts / advice?
Terrence Hoffmann - Sat, 17 Dec 2016 16:49:37 EST ID:IUvvhsfo No.12728 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck this board is slow...
Oliver Mirrytit - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:42:02 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Poland is something like 99% ethnic Polish, there are almost no Germans. Poles speak Polish. You're confused because you're completely uninformed and think with political map colors instead of facts. Soviets booted out Germans from what is now Western Poland. Earlier Germans antagonized Poles with their expansionism and kulturkampf. There is no reason at all for German to be used in Western Poland.
Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:51:57 EST ID:A5EX172g No.12737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, when I was in Poland there was the odd person in the west who did indeed spoke German, much better than English. Though from my experience there are very few people who speak either German or English and you'll just have to get by.

You'll be fine OP. Poles are fun, enthusiastic people who will make the effort to communicate with you despite the barrier.
Augustus Fopperchudge - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:54:25 EST ID:A5EX172g No.12738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol... didn't realise your OP was 2 months ago. Man this board has gotten reeeeeeeally slow.

Learning German by Ebenezer Sishridge - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:18:10 EST ID:S+cf3bfL No.12675 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So basically I've spent the past 24 years of my life never planning anything or putting any real effort towards anything I've done. I scraped by a university degree in a subject I will never get a job in and I've been consistantly underemployed in shitty jobs while living at home with my parents and masturbating constantly.

At the beginning of the year I went on holiday to Berlin and had the time of my life. Since then I had 2 cups of coffee one morning and basically planned out the next 6 years of my life. I wont bore you with the details but the most important part is that I will be moving to Berlin after my brothers wedding in May next year. This gives me 9 months to save up as much money as possible and, more importantly for this board, learn as much German as I possibly can.

The last language I learned was French. I remember making fun of the teacher by asking her if she "got lucky" because she came in wearing the same clothes 2 days in a row. I do not remember anything else.

Obviously the deciding factor in all of this will be my own discipline and work ethic, but I've come to 420chan for just about every major thing in my life since I was 16 and like hell am I going to stop now. Does anyone have any helpful links/stories/tips/anything-at-all they can give me about learning German?
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Emma Pockwell - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:04:48 EST ID:uEpWFA1y No.12707 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just remembered - apparently if you're planning to immigrate to Germany, which I am, the government offer free courses - havent really looked into that yet though, I want to actually move here first

Also there's a European standard of language skills, from A - C, with C2 (I think) being complete fluency - there are a few websites you can test yourself on for free - I've managed to get to B1, pretty much the minimum standard to live and work here, in just a few months

Betsy Crunnerville - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:20:20 EST ID:NZmMur/5 No.12710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
any test that does not have a speaking and writing component will not give you an accurate gage of your level.
Nathaniel Gorryspear - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:46:22 EST ID:ZGFxMxgk No.12730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy fuck you guys are great at supplying absolutely nothing and ignoring OP
babaum.com I use to memorise nouns and verbs
clozemaster.com for after you've been studying for a while
duolingo.com is beginners heaven
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWFUZUlX9n11X4w5QctOQQZG german movies
Youtube channels
slow german, Get germanized, bookbox german, deutsch für euch, Heidi oficial

I reccommend keeping a notebook to write down words zou dont know and translate
Google Translate is onlz good for some individual words, otherwise it's pretty much shit.
tatoeba.org for sentences, I haven't used it so I don't know if its good or not
bab.la another one I haven't really used

good luck
Nathaniel Gorryspear - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:47:15 EST ID:ZGFxMxgk No.12731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
babadum.com I meant
Albert Hosslebanks - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:59:05 EST ID:49sOThSC No.12736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive been doing 10 minutes of duolingo a day for 2 years on german, and I visited austria the other month ago, and while it isnt german, they genuinely thought I was from Germany to some extent because of how I spoke it

let that settle in

Sticking my Foot in the Dutch Kiddie Pool by Nell Muttingworth - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 21:22:22 EST ID:RH+DJ+MI No.12729 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I have duolingo to practice my French. Im not horrible and Im not great. Im getting better as I have regular conversation in the language. My goal is to live in Quebec for awhile since its bilingual.

But I have an interest in learning Swedish,Dutch and German since I may also desire to go those places. I know all three have similarities and differences. Though I am unsure of how great those differences are. I've messed around with German before and it seems like something I could pick up. I just tried Dutch and its like a different universe I've heard it on some TV shows and movies and its sort of weird even compared to Swedish.

Do you guys have any advise suggestions or questions?
Frederick Gucklestone - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 00:02:11 EST ID:yrO7zLOv No.12732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just so you know, despite the presence of a large number of anglophones in Montreal and some other areas, Quebec is not in fact bilingual. Quebec is technically monolingual with the official language being French (Quebecois).
New Brunswick is the only officially bilingual province in Canada.

ZUINOSIN by Alice Gendledadging - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 14:39:46 EST ID:JLWMsRTy No.12725 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can anyone who knows Japanese please take their time to tell me what these songs are about? What is he singing about? This shit is top-tier insanity.


wolla wat is deze by Lydia Peshdock - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:26:49 EST ID:hbxr/Ldy No.12723 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone show me some love? What on earth does this say? :(
Basil Tillinggold - Thu, 01 Dec 2016 17:52:04 EST ID:MEa4WanU No.12724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dunno. The script looks to be Balinese though.

I wanna learn a new language. by Koshka - Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:55:20 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.10102 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I really don't care if I ever use it. I want to learn a new, less common language.
Here are my stipulations:
It has to have an alphabet. It can't be like Chinese or Japanese where you learn 100s of symbols, stroke counts, and pronunciations.
I was looking at Tamil or Balinese, but I don't have a reliable source to learn either of them. Any suggestions?
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Augustus Sagglelock - Sun, 06 Nov 2016 22:22:04 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Teaching yourself the Hebrew characterset and abugida character order (A B G D, etc) can get you far if you're at all interested in Semitic linguistics.

The nice thing about abjad alphabets/languages (Hebrew, Phoenecian, Syriac, Mandaic, et al) is that they tend to follow the exact same pattern with regard to letter order (see above), with Arabic being the main exception (it has about twelve additional letters in the standard alphabet, if memory serves). Obviously you have to learn the individual characters and pronunciations, but having a common ground will definitely make it easier to branch out. And if you decide to teach yourself Yiddish for whatever reason, there are only about five additional glyphs to learn.

Hope that helps some. Shalam.
Augustus Sagglelock - Sun, 06 Nov 2016 22:28:19 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oops. Meant abjad the first time, not abugida. See
>>12700 if you want an abugida. derp.
Matilda Sindershit - Mon, 14 Nov 2016 09:58:27 EST ID:YrYpk7Xo No.12715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Учи русский. aлфaвит нe лaтинский, сaм язык — aбсoлютнo пoeхaвший
Fanny Billingfoot - Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:14:23 EST ID:jgUoywD5 No.12716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cyka блядь
James Clobbershit - Thu, 24 Nov 2016 03:34:51 EST ID:Y2hK87M9 No.12719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Polish doesn't use the Cyrillic alphabet

Until by Fucking Decklehodge - Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:43:00 EST ID:MZHbqQXT No.12718 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi, smart people.
I have argument with my friend, about whether or not you can use "Until this day" in sentence. She's arguing that you have to put certain time information after "until".
THX for answer, reference would be perfect

BTW some reference would be perfect
Hugh Funkindock - Thu, 24 Nov 2016 16:35:59 EST ID:a8IBsJss No.12720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does the expression make sense? Is it unlikely to cause confusion? I would say yes and yes and burn your friend at the stake.

>BTW some reference would be perfect
That's not how language works jolly african-american

Finnish by Cornelius Ginkinsudge - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:47:59 EST ID:4HnKYQAn No.12641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I cannot, for the life of me, find an answer for a simple question on any of the sites on which I study.
I generally know when to use the nominative, accusative and partitive, except for the verb "to be." I at one point thought it would just be the nominative, ex. "Se on taulukko. It is a table" from skimming walls of finnish text, but I later read that the accusative may sometimes look like the nominative. I have no idea which case ending I should use with "olla" as the verb, and it seems so fundamental to everyday speech that I want to get it straight in my mind.
>inb4 learn a useful language
Finnish is wierd and fascinating, albeit useless.
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Reuben Cirringshaw - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 23:05:44 EST ID:iUxAqiYX No.12647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At one point on that, it talked about the "ambiguity" of the accusative which is what I'm trying to understand.
AP on homo vai AP on homon?
I know that traditionally, "It is I" is preferable to "It is me" but I don't know if this is the same in finnish.
As for books, I am lacking. I've searched around, but there are never any reviews for them because few people are interested in finnish. If you know of any that exxplain grammar well, it would be appreciated.
Shit Honeywater - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 03:30:52 EST ID:vyWRFM4Q No.12680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Se on pöytä
>It is a table

Both "se" and "pöydä" are in the nominative case here.
I only know some simple Finnish and Karelian but I figure olla always has nominative case. Same as with many other languages
(Fun fact. Accusative is not used here because accusative is used for objects. This is not an object because objects can be promoted to subjects through passivisation.
>My uncle loves a plumber > A plumber is loved by my uncle
This transformation goes OK because "a plumber" is the object, thus accusative
>My uncle is a plumber > A plumber is been by my uncle
This transformation is no good because "a plumber" here is not really an object, thus not accusative)
Of course you can also use various locative cases depending on what you want to say.
>Se on pöydällä
>It is on (the) table

And as you asked for literature:
I can recommend "Finnish: An Essential Grammar" by Karllson. If you find a torrent called GRAMMAR PILE 3.0 it's in there, and I'm seeding it.
Graham Drizzlenag - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:34:30 EST ID:kC4WcnXW No.12681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>that torrent

holy shit I fucking came
Eliza Sunningridge - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:36:31 EST ID:NVLrxJ4E No.12682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just downloaded the book. It's very comprehensive. Thanks bruh.
Clara Drubberlat - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:39:35 EST ID:PZICZQ5a No.12717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also I think Iso suomen kieloppi is good. It's descriptive grammar for those who can read Finnish

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