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Spanish to Portuguese by Ian Mummerbotch - Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:54:54 EST ID:48iE+eos No.11823 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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quick question for you guys. I'm aware that romatic language grammar structures are quite similar, but are they basically identical, just with different words, verbsm and conjucations, or are there major grammatical differences between them, specifically Spanish and Portuguese.


I have spoken Spanish for nearly 3 years and have obtained a fairly high level of fluency and comprehension in the language, mostly because I have lived in a Spanish speaking country for the time. I like languages and would like to learn another, and figured Portuguese would be a language not all that different (I hear Italian is closer but I have more interest in Portuguese because of Brazil).

Issue is, I do not have a lot of time right now, and may be just an hour before bed. How similar are the two languages from a grammatic stand point?

Thanks.


FUCK THE POLICE! In multiple languages! by David Deshduck - Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:35:08 EST ID:vwn4pbtv No.11709 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's do something useful with our linguistic knowledges!

Post "Fuck the police," in as many languages as you can.
Bonus points for "Smoke weed every day."
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Wesley Musslechet - Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:44:31 EST ID:amE8eLpQ No.11810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11808
Na gut, hab meine kärntnerische Mutter gefragt und sie kannte den Begriff früher auch nicht. Scheint doch wienerisch zu sein.
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Jarvis Serringchuck - Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:20:16 EST ID:XISOIYy2 No.11813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11709
wow, no turkish?
"polisi sikeyim" would be ok.
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David Clozzlechore - Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:04:12 EST ID:sCqZ5VCk No.11815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11810
Komme aus der Südoststeiermark und wohne in Wien, beiderorts recht häufig das Wort Kiwara gehört. Auch schon aus dem Mund von OÖern, SBGern und NÖern. Wundert mich also sehr, dass das jemand nicht kennt.
Aber interessant jetzt samt mir 3 Österreicher hier zu zählen!
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Martin Clungermadge - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:41:43 EST ID:mgnE7JTe No.11820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11809

WHAT PRIMITIVE APEJABBER DOESNT HAVE A WORD FOR VAGINAL INTERCOURSE, IT IS WHERE HUMANS COME FROM

YOU REALLY DONT HAVE A WORD FOR FUCK? I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
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Graham Fillerstock - Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:08:38 EST ID:jM1tZQRE No.11822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11709
"Mrdat fízly"

Yep, that works.


Learning Arabic in a year by alkemest - Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:35:43 EST ID:86jrGCuF No.11565 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's up guys, quick question, how do I learn Arabic at least passably in about a years time?
I'm graduating Uni in a year or so with a degree in journalism and polisci, and Palestine has been on my heart and mind for years. This current slaughter is really pushing me towards volunteering to teach English there when I graduate. The thing is that I'll probably want/need some understanding of Arabic before I head over. I can take classes, but I may also need to buckle down and get my required classes done this next year.

What are some tools that are available to learn Arabic? Primarily I'd want to be able to speak it with passable basic writing skills.
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Emma Dorrywill - Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:56:31 EST ID:WjmbZth5 No.11767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11609
So, I'm on the verge of converting to Islam (seriously). I'm also homeless and have no intention of being not homeless anytime soon. I can and absolutely will travel anywhere in the US that will give a convert 1) a place to sleep, 2) food (one meal a day is plenty), 3) instruction/immersion in Arabic, and 4) guidance in becoming a good Muslim. Can you recommend anywhere? I will literally scrub toilets to earn my keep.

P.S. it's too bad that 420chan doesn't have a /religion/ board. Are there any places to go online to ask/learn about Islam? I received an English language Qur'an recently and I've been reading it every night, but reading and understanding aren't the same thing.
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Matilda Brenkinbanks - Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:44:37 EST ID:zugpJ0bV No.11769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11767
Same guy as before, I am Muslim, Ok here goes nothing.

A bad option is the Tabliki Jamat (different spellings exist). They will take you in and travel around, think of them as the Jehova's Withnesses of Muslims. They go from Mosque to Mosque, sleep in them and eat there for a few nights, and during the day go around the neighborhood soliticing. Annoying. However, what they will teach you is not good, sound iman (faith). They use books full of false hadith (oral tradition) and will lead you on the wrong path. There is a lot of information about them on the internet.

Living off the state when you're able to work is frowned upon in Islam, the hadith present a consevative, macho view that a man should work for his living. I won't go into your private life. If you are a drug addict I hope Islam will help you overcome your difficulties. If you are American, there are some good places with thriving communities that will help bring you in and will be unlikely to judge you, such as Dearborn MI, NYC, DC, Atlanta, Southern Florida, etc. If you are British to to London or Manchester, if you are Australian go to Melbourne or Hobart.

Anyway, I too have been homeless and I hope with winter coming you can get your life together. Salaam brother.
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Alice - Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:34:59 EST ID:EfO0fZbV No.11770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11767
If you have any questions about the Qur'an. Anything that you dont understand or need to interpret please come back and post it here and we will help you with it as best as we can. If you need any help with Arabic in general id love to help you go through it.

Peace Brother and good luck
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Sophie Dimmerlock - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:51:42 EST ID:wHm1akGe No.11817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11769
think about that.
do you really want to hang out with another variety of jehovas witnesses?
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Alice - Fri, 31 Oct 2014 04:53:40 EST ID:5BPy2LUk No.11821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11817
Beats being homeless i bet.


Learning Mandarin by George Snodway - Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:19:18 EST ID:03QHJwUF No.11757 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, is there a site similar to duolingo.com that I can use to learn to speak Mandarin?

(I am just trying to learn conversation and pinyin, learning the characters is quite an undertaking)
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cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Oct 2014 13:27:26 EST ID:29HOrGFb No.11762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11757
yellowbridge dot com
byki dot com
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Nigger Ginkinway - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:02:05 EST ID:YpxqR+QJ No.11782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11757

ChinaPod, though it used to be free, it is now paid I believe.
Not that you couldn't find it.. somewhere.. \

Happy learning. Wo xi huan ni de shuo hua

Wo ye zai xue xi zhong wen, danshi wo bu hue kan de dong characters..
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Graham Hoshbury - Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:17:57 EST ID:dJPTibKY No.11803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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hskflashcards com is pretty good if you decide to learn some characters.
This is a pretty slow board so might as well make it /mandarin/ since there are never threads for it on /int/

Ni hao!
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Sophie Dimmerlock - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:53:36 EST ID:wHm1akGe No.11818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11757
我也再学习中文。 你可以看节目《舌尖上的中国》和《爸爸去哪儿》
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Martin Clungermadge - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:36:40 EST ID:mgnE7JTe No.11819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NI HAO, WO HUE JONG WEN!

SHAO SHIN I DIEN!

BU HAO ISSU!

MEI SHUR, ZAI JIEN!

thats what ive learned so far


Learning tamil by Ernest Borringmeck - Tue, 28 Oct 2014 00:01:27 EST ID:tJuKiIG/ No.11816 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to learn my native language Tamil, but I cant seem to find anything like Rosetta Stone to help me learn the basics. Can someone point me in the right direction, I know there has to be something on the internet that can help me learn this language...

Thanks in advance


WRITTEN Language by Sidney Sinkinkare - Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:16:11 EST ID:24ygmyw9 No.11555 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Native Hindi and English speaker here . However I am learning the north Indian script . I can read Urdu - which is mutually intelligible but uses Arabic alphabet .

So got to thinking . Even tho i only speak 2 languages i can read 4 scripts : Latin Greek Arab Devnagar

So what spoken languages and what scripts are you fluent and what you want to learn ? Aside from the above I know a little spanish and franch but nowhere near fluent. As far as writing chinese interests me .
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Walter Blirringfoot - Wed, 17 Sep 2014 20:35:19 EST ID:jlgKRZMK No.11732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even though I'm Muslim and exposed to Arabic constantly, I don't really like the alphabet. It's complicated (every letter has 3 forms based on if it's first, last, or a middle letter in a word) and seems to artistic to be functional. Like it's beautiful yes, but for means of communication you don't want beauty you want functionality. For this reason I am also not a fan at all of cuneiform.

I find the Greek alphabet to be very appealing, also the Cherokee which was somewhat based on Greek, sorta ish.

The Chinese / Japanese Kanji concept of one character = one word is interesting but again, very intricate and artistic.

And to be quite honest I find Hebrew writing to be a good medium.
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Archie Nagglechad - Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:40:41 EST ID:XvPUcrbo No.11750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11555
In high school, I learned the Korean alphabet. Not the language. Just the alphabet. I've since forgotten it. But it's by far the coolest alphabet.

Each symbol is a syllable. Unlike japanese, each symbol is actually composed of letters from their alphabet. It's a pretty awesome concept.
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Archie Nagglechad - Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:44:54 EST ID:XvPUcrbo No.11751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11750
Oh yeah, it's just 24 letters. So it's comparable to latin/cyrillic alphabets in complexity, but it looks dope like chinese/japanese characters.
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Albert Gaggledale - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:23:07 EST ID:Wrogz3dW No.11754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11555
I am trying to learn Japanese kanji, plus their hiragana & katakana scripts..

Good luck with Urdu, OP!
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David Pumblesurk - Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:29:15 EST ID:b4qeTsnA No.11812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
im dyslexic


Esperanto by Fuck Crigglegold - Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:39:13 EST ID:X+Qx/ohQ No.5234 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Esperantistoj, venu en cxi tie!

Mi ne estas finavenkisto aux io, sed... mi amas esperanton multe. Gxi grande helpis min kiam lernanta hispanan kaj cxinan. Neniu sxajnas paroli gxin tamen. Ho ve.
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Albert Tootforth - Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:00:08 EST ID:Ja2Uvh2J No.10167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10161
Saluton malnovgejulo

ni kreu novan fadenon baldaux, tiu cxi acxigxas de la angla...
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Reuben Sundlebadge - Thu, 07 Nov 2013 05:15:19 EST ID:njJSJ3la No.10168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Via lingvo estas la plej senutila fekinta rubo. Ĉu vi ne scias, ke la angla lingvo estas nun la vera internacia lingvo? Ĉesu & kabeu!
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George Buzzgold - Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:34:26 EST ID:Ja2Uvh2J No.10169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10168
hahaha...sxajne ni sekvis unu la alian el Lernu kaj the future...
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Graham Nannerherk - Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:31:41 EST ID:XJeoAQLR No.10357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This would have been useful six months ago.
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Martha Gavingdale - Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:45:11 EST ID:J4bxtBTK No.11805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Saluton

Also bump


I Need Immersion by Zaku Kashaku - Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:23 EST ID:GZrW1Uha No.11737 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Please help me find japanese audio tracks of just people talking. nothing more. thanks in advance!
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Rebecca Niggerhall - Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:58:15 EST ID:Z1v+SCTB No.11738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
look up radio dramas

or turn on anime and don't watch it
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Reuben Challyspear - Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:55:30 EST ID:qqFv6N96 No.11746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/furi-kuri-flcl-original-soundtrack-2-pirate-king

this has some dramas "dorama" if you ever translate it please tell me what they're saying
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Rebecca Blumbledadge - Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:24:26 EST ID:j4Qk1zGk No.11778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watch NHK and anime with subtitles
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Isabella Narringson - Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:32:17 EST ID:qBI904is No.11779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Look up whatever interests you in Japanese in iTunes, then hit up podcasts. You'll be set for years with how much free content there is. Also, you don't need to switch to the Japanese iTunes store to search podcasts since they're all free.
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Cornelius Cettingsotch - Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:44:56 EST ID:qqFv6N96 No.11804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://qvc.jp/cont/live/Main?serverId=8
and we can't stop and we won't stop


Any success stories? by Fanny Pivingwell - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:35:58 EST ID:8Xo2pqDl No.11789 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Seems like you guys just ask each other "what language should I learn" or "What is a good movie in X language?"

Any real success stories here? Becoming fluent? To the point where you can read/write/speak/watch/listen as if it were your native tongue- anyone use it to travel or perhaps meet friends/lovers? Impress and inspire me guys.
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Nell Sushfuck - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 01:13:17 EST ID:aTqGpc1Y No.11796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11789

Learning a language isn't like winning the lottery man, there are no success stories or anything like that, there are people who are willing to put in the time and effort and people who aren't. I've taken up french again and I've been at it about a month so far and already have learned WAY more than I did in 10 years of public school classes, because I'm putting almost all my time into it, I've changes all the settings on my computer to french, I only watch tv in french, I only read french, I try to speak it as much as I can.

You get what you give. Put in the effort and you can have your own success story.
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Fuck Fubberkidge - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 04:31:58 EST ID:rpK/jr8E No.11798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Spanish..
B1 level took 1 year
Started studying in a Spanish Open university after studying for 2 years,
Passed B2 level exam at end of third year of study
This is my fifth year, I would say I'm fluent now, can understand any normal book without a dictionary, talk about anything. Still make mistakes. Still need to use a dictionary if I want to understand every word. Spanish grammar etc. is easy but it has a massive massive massive vocabulary. English boasts having more words than any other language, but a lot of of them are archaic and not used. Spanish seems to have far more words in use. That could just be my perception as a learner, but it certainly has at least as many.
Don't let that discourage you though, just like in English, not understanding one word doesn't void your whole understanding of everything else that was written.


Language learning is just time and effort, someone said already. You meet people who say "I've been studying for 30 years and I still can't speak it" well they've been studying an umbrella.. no.. What I mean is they haven't been studying every day. They've maybe come back to it every few months and watched the odd subtitled film.

You also have to study a range of different things or in a range of different ways. Studying one book over and over isn't going to help you learn because you'll be bored and you forget everything if you're bored.
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Fuck Fubberkidge - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 04:34:55 EST ID:rpK/jr8E No.11799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11789

Also i read a stupid blog recently that said you can't study 5 hours a day. you should study 5 minutes a day. BULLSHIT. that's fine if you want to be able to order a fucking coffee. If you want to speak fluently 5 hours exposure to the language in a day A START. I can't believe anyone would dare write a blog telling people to work LESS in order to learn more. Fricken TOURISTS
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Betsy Ficklegold - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:29:42 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.11800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11795
>How long did it take you to be able to use this site or watch American/British TV?
That's really difficult to say, because I started watching cartoons in english as a child, before I could even read, and then later there were mandatory classes in school. So it's been a loooong gradual process.

What I do know for a fact is that everyone can learn. It's just a matter of "how much" and "to what level". Devoting time and effort WILL pay off, but learning a language to fluency is a thing achieved not in "months" but in "years". (I speak three foreing languages, but only english fluently.)
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Betsy Ficklegold - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:45:52 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.11801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11800
Just to reply to myself, the upper should read
>"how much EFFORT"


Korean & Japanese or Korean v. Japanese by Nathaniel Brookspear - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:11:26 EST ID:jJy382Y2 No.11787 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to get my life together after many months of idle alcoholism. I've basically been on an extended gap year. And I am wondering if it is worth the time to take Korean and Japanese together for business and cultural purposes. Or just one language.

I already know enough French,German,and Spanish to travel or if need be enough to practice and become fluent enough to conduct business. So should I study both Japanese and Korean for the winter semester since I would be going to class everyday in a condensed amount of time. Or just one.

I live in Los Angeles and there is a huge Korean Community and a sizeable Japanese community.
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Basil Snodhood - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:30:29 EST ID:Z1v+SCTB No.11788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll give every bit of advice I can, but my experience with Korean is mostly academic and impersonal.



They have very... tense relations. Not that that should matter.

Both languages are drastically unlike French, Spanish, or German, though the phonologies and grammars are a little like the mixed.

They're at similar difficulty levels, though Korean is just a little harder. They have very similar grammars, similar phonotactics, and similar pitch/stress/timing patterns, but they have different phonologies; Japanese is like a simpler Spanish, but Korean has a lot more, including altaic vowels (an ö and ü broken into we and üi, an unrounded u, which to be fair is the default allophone of /u/ in Japanese). Japanese has a very rigid 5 vowel system, but Korean has a 7 vowel system where the near open vowels have slid to more close positions. Korean has 3 rows of stop consonants - ptk and bdg like us, but also a set of tense consonants in the places of ptk too where you tighten your throat. (graphically, <pp><tt><kk> and the non-stop <ss>; eg dal means moon, tal means mask, and ttal means daughter). Korean even has traces of vowel harmony, but that's simple enough.

Writing systems add a whole bunch of difficulty points back to Japan, evening things out. Korean uses an alphabet like ours, except the syllables are scrunched up into blocks. Chinese characters are used only very rarely now in SK, usually in scientific things to distinguish homographs (like boohoo tear and shred tear). There's usually 1:1 correspondence spelling wise; their alphabet, and thus their writing system, was historically put down but today championed as a writing system you could learn in a day.

Japan on the other hand uses a syllabary, where each "letter" represents one whole unique syllable (it's simpler phonology, though, means this isn't quite as crazy as it would be for English or even Korean). Except it doesn't just use one syllabary, it uses 2. And to top that off, it uses Chinese characters unsparingly, so you have to know those. There's some patterns you can gleam from the Chinese-derived pronunciations of the characters (oh yeah, there's usually two, often more pronunciations of the characters), but because Japan evolved independently, most of the characters have no patterns whatsoever to their pronunciations. You really have to suck it up and memorize.

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Martin Nattingstone - Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:16:57 EST ID:RTil2obd No.11792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just a hobby/academically go for it, they are difficult and will consume a lot of time. I did a year of Japanese in college and have since forgotten most of it, the 3 alphabets thing didn't really bother fsr it just kinda clicked with me, because only certian types of words are spelled with a certain alphabet.

Both culture are extraordinarily xenophobic and your chances of living/working there are basically zero, but being so isolated they produce a ton of their own media, no I'm not just talking about anime, so you'll have lots of ways to absorb the language/culture.


Uploding Latin course. by Thomas Trotville - Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:32:53 EST ID:fGC+CkpF No.11610 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, /lang/. Are any of you interested in learning Latin? I've been recently cleaning out my house and stumbled upon some of my old Latin textbooks. If any of you want, I can put all the information into a pastebin to share with you all.
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NinKenDo !GEcKEyOqGA - Sun, 24 Aug 2014 01:09:43 EST ID:6gimAog7 No.11626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11610

Sounds great OP.
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Thom Yorke - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 23:48:58 EST ID:f9IhLl1l No.11639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And then OP never delivered
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Edwin Fisslelin - Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:38:46 EST ID:zDy+3X47 No.11747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your thread makes Caesar die.
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Jenny Desslehood - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:02:11 EST ID:ix0FBFjU No.11786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interested here, but WHERE IS OP
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Charlotte Femmlegold - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:44:55 EST ID:Z1v+SCTB No.11797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP est canaedus


Corpus Linguistics by Nigger Ginkinway - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:59:12 EST ID:YpxqR+QJ No.11781 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Have you heard of it?

Tried it?

I'm very curious.. It's a systematic breakdown of single paragraphs/phrases in order to learn the context of vocabulary and sentence structure of that language? It seems that anybody with a true willingness to learn a language will inevitably end up doing this. It's why one would want to watch a foreign film in the language they're learning, attempt to read newspaper articles, write poems, songs, etc.
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Clara Candergold - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:07 EST ID:OCB4hcwz No.11783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just reading about what it is scared the shit out me. this looks hard as nuts, and its something i wouldnt touch with a 20inch pole.
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Graham Soshtere - Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:25:28 EST ID:dgpaNSaa No.11784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, you do understand that linguistics is not the learning of languages, right? When people talk about corpus linguistics, they're talking about analyzing corpora with an emphasis on the analyzing. If you're doing things like POS tagging, it is a truly awful way to study a language that's already well documented.
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Henry Hallerhedge - Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:21:10 EST ID:vOuS2D9s No.11811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11781

my understanding is you understand what it is for, one of us is really wrong

imagine you already have a really high level of English, difficult, I know

Now you are writing an essay and you want to say they "had" an election.. but then you think.. wait a minute! there's a better way to say this! but the word won't come to you, you have been writing all day. you look it up and you see.. ah, you "hold" an election. Walla!

It's useful for a million things along these lines. When you're a beginner and you are doing exercises in a grammar book, the fill in the gaps exercises most likely all came from a corpus like that.


Sitting down and reading it would be along the lines of sitting down and reading the Internet.


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