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World travel, good universal language by James Mother Fucking Randi !lwriJ94kMg - Mon, 24 Aug 2015 01:55:28 EST ID:BPbjsphl No.12379 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I'm planning a back packing trip starting in Europe and hopefully if i can make it far enough all the way to SE Asia.

I speak English as my native language, have an ok grasp on German but can't hold a full conversation in it and also learning Italian since that's where my trip starts and I'll be spending a good chunk of my time.

I know English is a pretty universal language, but what I want to know is what would you guys consider the second "universal language"? I want to learn a language that will cover the most bases for my travel.

Sort of an odd question I know but let me know what you think.
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Nigger Fidgestetch - Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:19:48 EST ID:NR2T1e/Q No.12381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12379
Maybe you could be a bit more specific about the countries you plan to visit?
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James Mother Fucking Randi !lwriJ94kMg - Mon, 31 Aug 2015 01:49:47 EST ID:BPbjsphl No.12387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12381
Starting in italy and heading east with no specific route in mind except that I'll be flying over Central Asia so i dont like step on a land mine or something.

Im not going to be staying in any one place too long except maybe italy.


A few questions by Martin Cannerlidge - Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:03:25 EST ID:zsEffVCD No.12385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much of one language should I know before I start learning another? I'm a native English speaker, I've take three university semesters of Spanish, and won't be studying Spanish in an academic setting anymore, but would like to continue building on my Spanish and also start learning Punjabi (as well as the Gurmukhi alphabet).

I realize that obviously working on two languages will mean I'll learn each of the two more slowly because I'll be spending less time on it, but if I really want to learn both, is there a viable way to do it? Have I learned enough Spanish that I'm unlikely to mix the two languages up when speaking?

What do you recommend in this regard?

Also, resources for Spanish are everywhere. Any recommended resources for Punjabi?


Korean or Japanese? by Phineas Turveyshaw - Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:01:36 EST ID:0kXH7cdY No.12368 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm looking for some opinions, on which language to start learning as I want to permanently move to either country. Being quite into Korean cinema and history, I started reading up on which of the languages was easier to learn, and managed to learn Hangul relatively quickly (although useless without vocabulary and grammar). However, I've done that thing where you go onto YouTube and see videos of Tokyo and have this romanticised Western idea of what it'd be like to live there, so now I'm stuck thinking "I don't want to end up learning Korean, go to Korea and Japan, and wish I had spent the time learning Japanese". I know that's a little naive, but it's a concern nonetheless.

Opinions from anyone who has lived in either or preferably both? I've also heard it's at least somewhat easier to learn Japanese once you've learned Korean, as there are few but some similarities so that may also be an option. But I'm struggling to perfect my current second language so the thought of managing four is daunting.
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Martin Cannerlidge - Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:56:50 EST ID:zsEffVCD No.12384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you know more about one than the other and feel torn, I'd go with the one you know more about. While there may not be much in common linguistically speaking, there will be skills you'll pick up for learning languages that will transfer to learning any language.

Instead of thinking "Do I want to learn Japanese or Korean?" think, "Do I want to learn Japanese or Korean first?"

It sounds like the answer is Korean.


I wanna learn a new language. by Koshka - Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:55:20 EST ID:8Pq3Puce No.10102 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I really don't care if I ever use it. I want to learn a new, less common language.
Here are my stipulations:
It has to have an alphabet. It can't be like Chinese or Japanese where you learn 100s of symbols, stroke counts, and pronunciations.
I was looking at Tamil or Balinese, but I don't have a reliable source to learn either of them. Any suggestions?
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noko - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:08:32 EST ID:ItcXqMx4 No.12332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10102
Apenas bumpando para o get
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Phineas Chabberchire - Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:57:07 EST ID:CvznqalF No.12367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bump for relevence

Interested in learning Tamil
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Basil Gonderfoot - Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:38:53 EST ID:n2oos28P No.12369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10102

Why not Tagalog? They're due for a rise at this rate anyhow.
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Betsy Pabblebere - Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:29:45 EST ID:zjqa2VHR No.12383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone have a lot of trouble with the verbal aspect of learning a language? I'm learning German and trying to practice my Spanish (which I like to think I'm pretty good at) but when I try to engage in a conversation I can't understand anything.
I've been watching foreign films and listening to Spanish/German radio stations but that has barely helped. Any suggestions?
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 31 Aug 2015 01:41:50 EST ID:3kp9J2U6 No.12386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12383
Yes, it's common to have trouble picking out all the words people say in a language that you mainly learned through a classroom or computer program. Native speakers of most languages will unconsciously talk at a speed that can make it hard for non-native speakers to understand.


tips for learning the arabic alphabet by Phyllis Chongerridge - Wed, 13 May 2015 23:30:03 EST ID:KJu4J5EH No.12125 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey, begun trying to learn Arabic. Like..just begun..

Anyone have any tips on how to learn the alphabet? I've just been trying to memorize by writting it repeatedly but I've enver tried learning a language with a different script before.

Any experiences, suggestions, tips.

Thanks,
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Hugh Pibblestare - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 23:09:15 EST ID:KsPrOkxW No.12214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12125
A great textbook that I use is Al-kitaab (currently in its third edition) for grammar and Alif Baa for the letters.
I know that you can get Arabic lessons at some Mosques. They usually have signs up saying that they're offering. Other than that, I recommend al-minaahil. It's basically Egyptian sesame street.
The letters aren't so hard to remember. Just use them very often and make sure there's someone who can check your work and correct all of the misconceptions you are going to develop.
The real challenge is gaining the ability to spell what you hear. This is harder than it sounds because Arabic contains more phonemes than English.
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Hugh Pibblestare - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 23:19:31 EST ID:KsPrOkxW No.12215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12129
And as for writing, a general rule of thumb is to move your pen from right to left. If you're drawing a round character, start at the top, move clockwise and then connect it once it's closed.
For a kaf appearing before the end of the word, just draw the bottom half first, finish the word, and add the crooked end when you finish writing the word. Kind of like how we cross t's and dot i's in english cursive.
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Phineas Genderdale - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 23:45:24 EST ID:7jL83XJW No.12217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12199
"محمد هوَ نبيٌ كاذب و مؤلف يتظاهر بالتقوى"
Best sentence i can think of. Simple means "Mohamed is a False Prophet, fictional author, and pretends to be pious".
All the Arabic in this thread is Classical or Fusha Arabic. Some diacritics are essential in conveying what you are trying to say but Its a lot easier to study than standard Arabic and most of the Arabic literary body is written in that format.
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Angus Snodwell - Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:17:21 EST ID:mb8MeEfM No.12380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12125

Arabic has a phonetic alphabet, so just write out things in Arabic the way you'd pronounce them in English. I used to write out proper nouns like friends' names, businesses, or song titles. That should give you a good understanding of the sounds of the letters. Best of luck, and keep at it man. This is a great language that's worth learning.
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Betsy Pabblebere - Fri, 28 Aug 2015 12:22:16 EST ID:zjqa2VHR No.12382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know this thread just got revived from a month ago but if anyone is looking for decent videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RcgfyuBlz8
This chick helped me learn the alphabet


Thread de Português - /high/ pt-BR by Lydia Weffinghock - Mon, 17 Aug 2015 09:48:13 EST ID:W+1qTxqa No.12370 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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BR? BR! HUEHUEHUEHUEHEUHEUHEUEHUEH

Vamos estacionar por aqui, quem quiser praticar um pouco de português, seja bem-vindo! Quem for do brasil e quiser trocar umas idéias, vamos conversando!
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Jack Sombleson - Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:27:46 EST ID:gLn+s8MF No.12373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Então é pra cá que viremos quando o outro recinto cair novamente? Gostei.
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Phoebe Clullylere - Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:35:07 EST ID:Iln0AuAo No.12374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12371
Brinque direito com os amiguinhos, anão.
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Phyllis Neddlefield - Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:27:49 EST ID:/FyL/YY+ No.12375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12370
Porque não uma Thread no 8chan? Acho mais simples e mais parecido com o que estamos usando no dia a dia.
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Ebenezer Buzzwell - Thu, 20 Aug 2015 03:39:05 EST ID:R9D+AS1X No.12376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12375
Pra mim aqui está bom.

Acho que dá pra conversamos sobre algumas coisas proibidas no 55, como lugares onde vendem.
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Wesley Blenkinback - Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:54:14 EST ID:z3y1V2LB No.12377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12376
MAS O QUE A FODA HOMEM?
Você é um fodendo gênio, anãozinho.
Eu até pediria alguma boca na minha cidade, mas acho impossível que alguém more na cidade do churrasco de descolados.


Mandarin by Archie Tootbury - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 07:37:42 EST ID:hPPfZi8Z No.12360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup guys.
Got a question about relative clauses in Mandarin. So as far as I understand an adjective can be predicative like this:
那个女人很漂亮 (that woman is very beautiful)
or attributive like this
那个很漂亮的女人 (that very beautiful woman)

I wonder if the same thing goes for verbs:
那个女人吃饭 (that woman is eating [rice])
那个吃饭的女人 (that rice-eating woman, or that woman who is eating rice)

Do correct me if I made any mistake in my Chinese.
Just wanted to ask this because we've got a similar process in both Ainu and Japanese, wondered if it's the case for many languages around that (admittedly vast) area
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Ernest Niggerfuck - Sun, 09 Aug 2015 23:03:58 EST ID:mBxNyUf5 No.12363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i'm no chinese pro, but speak korean and some japanese


그 밥을 먹는 여자 (that rice-eating woman)
vs
그 여자 밥을 먹어 (that woman eats rice)
Just the same as in your chinese example, the word order changes to indicate the subject, and the predicate comes after. if the verb was attributive, it comes before the subject as a descriptor. i'm not sure if this is the "process" you're indicating, but if i recall correctly the same rule exists in japanese.

though tbh i plugged your sentences into google translate and i got "the woman eat" and "the meal woman" so compensating for how much it sucks, seems right enough to me ;D
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Ian Cammerford - Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:49:08 EST ID:hPPfZi8Z No.12364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12363
>i'm not sure if this is the "process" you're indicating
It sure is. I did think it would be the case in Korean too. It's interesting that you should point this out.
Yes, as a generativist I refer to such things as "processes". Generativists think of syntax as a process which maps "deep structures" (which might be joining a verb and a noun for instance) to "surface structures" like relative clauses and predications.

>though tbh i plugged your sentences into google translate and i got "the woman eat" and "the meal woman" so compensating for how much it sucks, seems right enough to me ;D
Maybe it is :-) ...
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Nigger Cidgeman - Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:52:46 EST ID:bumH6iVL No.12366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yoyoyo OP, I ain't know shit about grammar, but both statements about the woman eating are fine. Though 吃饭 doesn't really mean "eat rice" so much as just "eat food." If you really want to specify rice you should say 吃米饭.


smoke weed everyday in other languages by Fucking Favingpodge - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:34:17 EST ID:ORtpm4VC No.9025 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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毎日マリファナをすう!
(mainichi marifana o suu~)
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Basil Cuffingnork - Sun, 29 Jun 2014 22:17:52 EST ID:LvYH0MTf No.11506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11500
>Grass rauchen
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Oliver Brusslelire - Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:20:58 EST ID:M/GE+wRG No.11535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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دخن حشيش كل يوم

or

حشْشُ كل يوم
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Lydia Docklefoot - Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:58:45 EST ID:B4Pfe3Ff No.11541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Je vous encourage à consommer du cannabis journalièrement.
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Hedda Huddleshaw - Fri, 01 Aug 2014 23:15:34 EST ID:YrPPbQmf No.11582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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날마다 대마초를 피우라
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Oliver Funkinspear - Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:25:46 EST ID:NQ5lHSFD No.12365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tenpo suno ali la o seli e kasi sona! (toki pona)


соскив by Walter Crennerdale - Sat, 15 Feb 2014 19:19:46 EST ID:TMjY54gu No.11075 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Howdy, /lang/. I was wondering if anyone knew a translation for "Вoлю зoлoту" in Ukrainian. From what I understand, Вoлю means freedom or will and зoлoту means gold, so I'm guessing it might mean golden freedom. Anyone know?
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Phoebe Gammlesare - Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:58:49 EST ID:Yl4D+dWG No.11089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
do you have a context of some kind?
those words are just on their own?
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noko - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:07:51 EST ID:ItcXqMx4 No.12329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11075
Apenas bumpando para o GET.
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Fuck Debblededge - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:08:15 EST ID:RfX1SS0n No.12330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12329
what?
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Archie Tootbury - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:45:47 EST ID:hPPfZi8Z No.12358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11075
Where did you get this phrase? It's part of a larger sentence. It means "golden freedom".

>>12330
This same guy is replying to a whole load of threads in the hope of getting some particular post number
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Archie Tootbury - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:54:03 EST ID:hPPfZi8Z No.12359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I meant it's NOT golden freedom.

>>12358
I see, it's from the refrain in the music on that youtube link.
Слaвтe, [...] Вoлю зoлoту.
Celebrate [...] free will.


BR is a mistake by Wade Davis - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:12:27 EST ID:RfX1SS0n No.12346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Brazil is a third world shithole please die
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Albert Bardshaw - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 20:59:40 EST ID:BDA11n53 No.12357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you fucking nerd
..: u will never make sex in ur life
..: while in brazil i have sex 30 times each day at carnaval


get by br - Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:24:30 EST ID:msf7ynKk No.12270 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo posta aqui e muito dificil mas vamos tentar o get assim mesmo
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Samuel Hommerwig - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:14:09 EST ID:UNzIE8yJ No.12353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12345
PAU
NO
SEU
CU
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Rebecca Tootbury - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:14:16 EST ID:RDlO0oR0 No.12354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12345
Que desperdício. Seu inútil do caralho.
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John Drillerpot - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:14:29 EST ID:QDQSC81F No.12355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12345
vai toma ano seu cu, viado do caralho pegando a foda fora
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Abiloaldo Ferreira - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:59:03 EST ID:Qc6/wmvS No.12356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12345
É muita macaquice.
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E Um Filho !loJSOMZg0g - Sun, 09 Aug 2015 02:43:12 EST ID:SpupB4UU No.12362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12345
OKAY YOU BRAZILIAN FUCKWADS, YOU GOT THE POST NUMBERED 12345. HOORAY. BRAZIL IS THE BEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. PORTUGUESE IS THE BEST LANGUAGE EVER INVENTED. YOU WIN. FUTEBOL PARA TODOS. now fuck off with your dumb fake Spanish


Brasil! by Shit Cruzzlehood - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:12:15 EST ID:je24YV0m No.12344 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Aqui é Brasil, caralho!
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Shit Cruzzlehood - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:12:35 EST ID:je24YV0m No.12347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brasil!


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