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TEACHING ENGLISH AS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE HORROR STORIES ETC by John Nicklefield - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:13:29 EST ID:mPRdrUeT No.11631 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've just finished my Cambridge ELT qualification, got a job offer (signed, sealed, delivered, I'm yours) and I'm now about to move away to a Eurasian metropolis where I will be undertaking my first English teaching job.

tell me about how snotty the kids are going to be
any horror stories (to tell camp-fire style)?
been figuratively fucked in the arse by a language school?
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Jack Gecklesark - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:54:00 EST ID:taK6tIbb No.12644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd actually like to teach English as a foreign language in an international school or something. What are the requirements for such a job? Does it pay well?
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Hugh Puckledale - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 13:17:09 EST ID:HU6JyZmP No.12645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How difficult is it to teach English in the EU? What do I need to make it happen?
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Henry Fanwater - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:37:30 EST ID:Bdrk/Gkl No.12669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12607
It's the spelling exceptions that make it a chore to read and write, but for speaking it's quite simple.
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Clara Worthinggold - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 00:29:59 EST ID:mVf2/T6i No.12670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12645
Can't speak for other regions, but our English teachers in Scandinavia are usually (read: Never heard of this not being the case) locals with a BA in teaching (specializing in English) or an MA in English (for high school-equivalents).
You might have better luck in the PIIGS (sans Ireland), but even then it's likely they've got locals who know more about English grammar than you ever want to, even if they have a weird accent.

tl;dr: Speak the local language fluently and have an MA in English as a foreign language, and you'll get to compete with the thousands of other candidates who can do the job and know the local culture better than you are likely to ever know it.

Not that it's impossible, it's just not Asia-tier levels of easy to get a job just by being white and anglo, and you're more likely to have to do some private classes with annoying business-types who speak shit English if you go do it.

Tbh, I'd recommend just getting a job in a major Russian town instead (got a couple Chechen friends who say it's easy if you speak good English) and flying to the EU for whatever you can't easily/legally do in Russia,
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Doris Fuggleville - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:23:52 EST ID:EyvlnHM8 No.12672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12644

I think you need a bachelor's degree from a university. My sister used her degree and has been teaching English to kids in Japan for four years.


smoke weed everyday in other languages by Fucking Favingpodge - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:34:17 EST ID:ORtpm4VC No.9025 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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毎日マリファナをすう!
(mainichi marifana o suu~)
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KekLolKek - Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:02:33 EST ID:QFuVpH6n No.12611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Кури трaвку кaждый дeнь. On Russian
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Priscilla Cillystotch - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 09:54:04 EST ID:Jiwm9Mwl No.12622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kurw Marychę codzień, Ty popierdolony chuju.
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Hamilton Wecklehall - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:38:30 EST ID:IkmPaxNO No.12662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Denně pálit
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William Mablingford - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 05:01:30 EST ID:6cVh3/6V No.12663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>9025

Dakhenn Hashish Koll-Yoam ((( Arabic )))
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Martin Pemmerspear - Tue, 20 Sep 2016 13:01:11 EST ID:wG69fxpp No.12671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>9025
Fumar erva todos os dias!


Looking for a word by Lydia Pittfield - Sat, 30 Jul 2016 01:02:03 EST ID:yc0TRzwz No.12613 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Google produces no results, and I'm looking for a specific english word for a story I'm doing. it'l most likely have the suffix of "cide"

What I'm looking for is the word that refers to the killing of an entire family. Wiping them out. Sons, daughters, aunts, everyone in that family that shares that last name so that bloodline would never continue. Would it be Genocide? I thought that word only applied to the killing of an entire race.
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Martha Blupperforth - Sat, 30 Jul 2016 02:24:58 EST ID:Gt6OlA9x No.12614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Familicide is usually murder-suicide within the family, but it's used also to describe killings of family members e.g. as punishment for a crime. Distant relatives within a blood line is a stretch, so maybe something like lineaicide? Or you could just be less obtuse. A dictionary is not a license.
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Oliver Hommlelene - Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:21:29 EST ID:zpKkHLCg No.12650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12613
Is that pic real? Hard to believe no penis.
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Phyllis Chunningstock - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:41:48 EST ID:qD+QBDJV No.12667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dunno Lydia, but i've also got a word question:
>when you have a really good idea but don't know how to do the thing
I've been wondering if there exists a word for that. Like, when you have (in your mind) a kickass punchline for a joke but have no idea what the buildup for it could be, only fragments of a story that you can't quite fit togheter.
The frustrating feeling of knowing your destination but not how to get there.
Anyone know a word for something like that?


German by William Mablingford - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 05:11:03 EST ID:6cVh3/6V No.12664 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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is it possible to find Germans here that can do some sort of exchange language learning prior to my arrival to Germany in 3 weeks?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:18:36 EST ID:sq+gza3T No.12665 Report Quick Reply
It's absolutely possible through the power of the internet. Here's 12 suggestions for finding a German language exchange - http://www.fluentu.com/german/blog/german-language-exchange-partner/

Also this - https://www.mylanguageexchange.com/Learn/German.asp
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Jenny Pondlenere - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:16:24 EST ID:k3lQQ8Jn No.12666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12665

Danke Schön


can anyone here translate heiroglyphs? by Fuck Buzzwell - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:56:21 EST ID:+vg/lECh No.12627 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i've been trying myself and it is complete fail
got these two items at the store for 11 dollars /brag
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Sophie Gasslebury - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:55:16 EST ID:RQ9rHzrc No.12654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so i googled some translation sites and i can't make heads or tails of this yet...
anyone know of atleast a place maybe where the community might be helpful
looking at the same time just thought it would be nice to get some help
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Albert Trotman - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:25:58 EST ID:wm2vfAfR No.12655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12628
This is a copy of a painting on a wall of the tomb of Horemheb. The inscription says either dicks out for Horemheb or it's a description of what's going on in the afterlife. The lovely lady is Hathor, she faces Horemheb, and that mysterious looking masked wrestler is Horus who would go on to have an amazing second run as Jesus of Nazareth. See more here: http://www.osirisnet.net/tombes/pharaons/horemheb/e_horemheb_pharaon_01.htm

>>12627
It's definitely a phonetic script. May or may not be nonsense. I'm not going to look up anything about it because it's just fucking tat.
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Esther Hommerpore - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 18:56:14 EST ID:yesq+7fO No.12656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It say's "OP is a fag".
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Graham Sepperville - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:41:15 EST ID:RQ9rHzrc No.12660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12656
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Phyllis Hodgewot - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 11:48:46 EST ID:RQ9rHzrc No.12661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12660
tits for translation


how do you keep it all straight by Cedric Hattingmedge - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:11:20 EST ID:+vg/lECh No.12637 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so i have to wonder how you people that know multiple languages
3+
keep it all straight.. do they ever bleed together?
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Albert Pucklehork - Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:05:21 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, different neural pathways, I guess. Other words only come into play, when you forget one from the language you were using. Then a drawer in your head opens and you pull out something from the other languages you know.
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Basil Punnerback - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:56:17 EST ID:mVf2/T6i No.12652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's fairly normal for people here know English as a foreign language (to varying degrees of success) and either French or German at a reasonable conversational level.
Sometimes, if you're at a reasonable level of fluency, you might prefer some languages for certain things (English, for instance, is terrible at explaining medical things to the layman because everything has a crazy name like 'Cirrhosis' that tells you nothing about the condition, while other languages might have names meaning 'Shrinking Liver' or something that gives you a decent hint). I know some language majors on their 4th or 5th language who make a game of using as many foreign languages in a sentence as possible while still having it make sort-of sense to someone who knows all of them.

Best explanation I can come with is
>>12638
Think running vs swimming. They're all forms of locomotion, but you'd never just collapse in the middle of the street and start doing the magikarp because you got the two mixed up.
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Sophie Gasslebury - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:40:34 EST ID:RQ9rHzrc No.12653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12652
that is impressive.. 4 or 5 languages.. i'd started to learn dutch but moved to russian unfortnutaly i got side tracked and haven't used rosetta stone for a while
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Fuck Ninnerbanks - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:48:12 EST ID:XwCU7Rol No.12657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12653
4 or 5 is impressive, but not crazy. Look up some of those youtube polyglots like Luca Lampariello or Richard Simcott, that's where shit gets really crazy


Deitsch by CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 21 Dec 2015 21:36:44 EST ID:3VyXICsi No.12515 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone here speak Pennsylvania German or have an interest in the language?

Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch is:
  • only a native language to certain groups of Americans and Canadians whose ancestors came from a specific region of Germany.
  • similar to some High / West German dialects, but also borrows lots of words from North American English.
  • almost completely a spoken language; Deitsch music and literature exist but even spelling can change from one author/artist to the next.

I find this language interesting even though it's only useful in highly specific situations and regions. I used to live in an area with a sizable Amish population and always thought the language sounded relaxing. Almost all the Amish past a certain age know English too, and even when talking with each other they sometimes use Deitsch and English interchangeably.

I'm using internet resources to learn some basic Deitsch. Maybe I'll be able to have a conversation with some Amish folks in their native language someday. Or at least I'll be able to tell what they're saying when they talk to each other.
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John Pupperson - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:50:44 EST ID:BaQMI3Pf No.12551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12515

yeah i live in central pa too. i never had much interest, but i've heard it a bunch. A lot of older country folk you hear with thick accents . my shitty racist father thinks he does a good impression. for real, though, some times you hear an old timer say something really dutchie and you just wanna be like "fuck dude you are trying too hard"

i think a lot of older pennsylvanias with pennsylvania dutch heritage idealize their ancestors way of life and are clinging to what are probably the last vestiges of the language

Hex signs are pretty dank, too.
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:51:59 EST ID:3VyXICsi No.12552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12551
>some times you hear an old timer say something really dutchie and you just wanna be like "fuck dude you are trying too hard"
That's wonderful. It reminds me of when Southern rednecks really overdo the drawl to sound more patriotic to their homeland. I never lived near the main Pennsylvania Dutch area of PA so I never got the chance to hear a non-Amish person speak it.

I wouldn't be surprised if, after the middle of this century, most of the "progressive" Amish and similar groups have all but switched to English for both public and family matters. I have a powerful attraction to dying languages of the U.S. and wouldn't mind keeping it alive for no practical reason.

One last thought: Deitsch sounds much more subdued and "rounded" than standard German, and the inflection/accent seems to have more in common with American English than with standard German. I also love how calmly and quietly it's spoken compared to English.

Deitsch word of the day: gschriwwe
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Doris Hobberfod - Sun, 08 May 2016 16:38:20 EST ID:v3xAEYJ1 No.12582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12552
>gschriwwe
Does it mean "written"?
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Tue, 10 May 2016 01:46:34 EST ID:ASCbueoR No.12584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12582
I believe so. I've barely done any learning on this language since creating the thread though.

Random observation: Last week I was with a couple Amish guys and noticed that they preferred the English words for prices and numbers, even when the rest of the conversation was in Deitsch.
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Cyril Sushville - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:43:03 EST ID:pcMWDhvA No.12651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12552
Funfact: if you're fluent in german you probably have no problem with Deitsch either. it's sounds pretty similiar to swabian german, (they speak it in like less than 200km from where i live)
deitsch sounds less retarded tho.

it's also better understanable than some of the weirder german accents, like everything outta the mountains down south, or the extreme platt from the north coast.
people up north speak a pretty good common german beseides their accent tho, people south are mostly ignorant enough to not even realise it's not even remotely german whatever they're talking lol


Learning Japanese, tips on remembering Kanji besides radicals by イッカク - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:42:43 EST ID:6f3V80M0 No.12536 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ayy everyone. I'm in the process of learning Japanese. Just recently finished up with learning how to read Hiragana on textfugu and I'm starting on Kanji soon, and also Katakana shortly thereafter. Textfugu does a great job of helping me memerize radicals and stuff, but are there any more ways I can improve my long term memory of Kanji, Hiragana, and Katakana? I found a PDF file of over 1000 Kanji in it so that's definitely going to help out a ton. If nothing else, I'm sure textfugu will help out sufficiently. It's a pretty great website. I highly recommend it for people learning on their own.

>also I'm not a spokesperson for the website, just saying it's really really helpful

Anyone care to share their experiences with learning Japanese? Tips and/or advice are always welcome!
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Angus Turveyway - Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:50:41 EST ID:2RPCMfTI No.12555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you should learn hiragana and katakana at the same time. really its just like upper and lowercase letters, same pronunciations, just different looking, or slightly different looking characters.
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Cornelius Bussleville - Tue, 10 May 2016 20:33:51 EST ID:8JAjK7aC No.12585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>12536
>I found a PDF file of over 1000 Kanji in it so that's definitely going to help out a ton
if you're not willing to learn at least 2000 Kanji, it makes no sense to even start.
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Angus Pockson - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:26:19 EST ID:JaVU4zbp No.12599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
learn chinese first, the mother language

then laugh at the strange island-folk usage of the characters
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Molly Chongerpock - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:45:59 EST ID:2RPCMfTI No.12621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jisho is a really good all around japaneseto English dictionary. They even translate romaji. I would learn hiragana and katakana at the same time, since its like upper and lowercase. That way you hve pronunciations down. You can spell and japanese word with those scripts. Also some smartphone/tablet apps i found are tae kims japanese learning and kanji script. I dont speak a lick of japanese but i strarted trying to learn last year. Got lazy and gave up. Be better then me man i gave you the powa
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Martin Gunnerridge - Wed, 24 Aug 2016 02:55:00 EST ID:RIIf5LgT No.12649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey so since I'm going to Japan soon does anyone know the best way to speak simple conversational Japanese? There has to be some good guide I can memorize basic phrases in within like a month. I'm not gonna be able to read jack shit but I just want to know how to ask for a bathroom and some ham.

It'd be nice if it didn't try to make me speak fucking weeaboonese either I have a feeling 'konichiwa' is viewed at as idiotic by now


Mandarin music? by hodeedo - Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:30:15 EST ID:QpPIe/nL No.7196 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I require music in Chinese. MANDARIN please for the love of God. I find most Canto music is better, but Canto is not what I'm learning :/ Preferably not pop music, its all I ever seem to be able to find.

Is there anything more new-wavey, like Neon Indian, or alternative? Lo-fi beach pop like The Raveonettes or Best Coast, rap, whatever, just.. nothing that's going to remind me of N*SYNC plz.

Is this kind of like asking for good movies from China? Not happening?
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Ebenezer Blonningfedging - Sat, 30 Jan 2016 11:12:01 EST ID:vAYFLULp No.12537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I saw someone posted ChaCha earlier (well, in 2013), you guys shoud check out the work she does with dutch producer Jay Soul. As a duo they are called AM444 and make brilliant music. I don;t know what genre to call them, they are kind of funky electronic and sometimes sound wonderfully weird and beautiful. I'll post some of my favs.

神仙药
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aQ6shtZU0g

神经末梢
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4eZg7W5gw

各种人
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mzC5nkWwS0
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Lillian Draddlefidge - Mon, 01 Feb 2016 19:42:44 EST ID:wyEbEfmC No.12539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12537
Nigga, I still rinse that chacha shit. Good on you, decent poster, 10/10, and I will check this out too.
You legend.
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Rebecca Murdfuck - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 09:32:57 EST ID:rs4OV+RG No.12545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12539
Glad to hear it! She's a really nice jewel of modern Chinese music, I think she'll be very successful.
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Sophie Turveyson - Sun, 14 Feb 2016 21:09:09 EST ID:IJt0Suyt No.12546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8795

That's now one of my favourite Mandarin songs. Anyone have anything else similar to Lotus Flower by 龙宽九段? (I know, 3 year old post).
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Cedric Buzzdale - Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:31:05 EST ID:vAYFLULp No.12648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How has no one posted MC HotDog yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGmROzNJ-dk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8mn5fS5_M


Finnish by Cornelius Ginkinsudge - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:47:59 EST ID:4HnKYQAn No.12641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I cannot, for the life of me, find an answer for a simple question on any of the sites on which I study.
I generally know when to use the nominative, accusative and partitive, except for the verb "to be." I at one point thought it would just be the nominative, ex. "Se on taulukko. It is a table" from skimming walls of finnish text, but I later read that the accusative may sometimes look like the nominative. I have no idea which case ending I should use with "olla" as the verb, and it seems so fundamental to everyday speech that I want to get it straight in my mind.
>inb4 learn a useful language
Finnish is wierd and fascinating, albeit useless.
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Cedric Blytheshaw - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 02:58:45 EST ID:KdLsUui1 No.12642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkusatiivi

Do you not have a good grammar book?
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Hedda Wullerwot - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 23:05:39 EST ID:fcE8u0u3 No.12646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12642
At one point on that, it talked about the "ambiguity" of the accusative which is what I'm trying to understand.
AP on homo vai AP on homon?
I know that traditionally, "It is I" is preferable to "It is me" but I don't know if this is the same in finnish.
As for books, I am lacking. I've searched around, but there are never any reviews for them because few people are interested in finnish. If you know of any that exxplain grammar well, it would be appreciated.
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Reuben Cirringshaw - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 23:05:44 EST ID:iUxAqiYX No.12647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12642
At one point on that, it talked about the "ambiguity" of the accusative which is what I'm trying to understand.
AP on homo vai AP on homon?
I know that traditionally, "It is I" is preferable to "It is me" but I don't know if this is the same in finnish.
As for books, I am lacking. I've searched around, but there are never any reviews for them because few people are interested in finnish. If you know of any that exxplain grammar well, it would be appreciated.


Change my accent [FR To English] by Alice Bandleshit - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 20:38:53 EST ID:c4t3ew2h No.12630 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys,

Any serious, good audiobooks about learning new accents and especially overcoming your native one?

I'm French and although I try as much as I can to sound 'American' (i.e. basically some blend of what I heard and learnt), there's always that small French accent residue coming back that I really want to get rid of.

Currently it's really not bad at all, or so people tell me. But my true desire is to make it -almost- impossible to tell by -most- people.

I feel I'm jumping ahead here but I'd also love to be versatile and have more than that 'Standard American' accent I was talking about. I'd love to do a Boston accent, some New-Yorkers one, some ebonics, etc.

PS. Just in case, the reason I ask you this is because I'd love to do voice over work in America (I realize the chances are slim, but oh well). But it's hard to believe in when you transpire even a faint of the French accent.

One last random question: Is it me or do impoverished black people from the West Coast sound almost the same as those from the East Coast? Maybe I don't have the ear for that, but I always saw a big resemblance when I would listen to them talk.

Anyway I'm talking way too much now. I just really want to perfect my accent. Really, really badly.
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Hedda Cibblewater - Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:01:32 EST ID:1gZONHRh No.12639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12633
>your chances of assistance continue to dwindle.
Yeah, I was still counting on yours. I usually don't encourage the use of drugs but have you ever tried Xanax? Chill some dude, Jesus.

>>12635
Alright, I can understand that some accents may be irritating to yourself and others. Fair enough. What accents would you say you enjoy?

I've never intended to have conversations IRL with some half-assed imitated accent though. That's cringe-worthy to me. I like my English to sound as neutral as can be in my social interactions.

But I also enjoy voice over and all that stuff, and would like to explore the various accents of the English language. Just like one would enjoy working on impressions. Simple as that.

I'd be grateful if you guys have any tips. Or, if you feel like being a douche you can shitpost like that first dude and I'll let this thread sink. It's fine.
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Beatrice Drebberbury - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 00:54:56 EST ID:7T6bny35 No.12640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12639
I've never intended to have conversations IRL with some half-assed imitated accent though. That's cringe-worthy to me. I like my English to sound as neutral as can be in my social interactions.

As long as you understand this, you should feel free to explore and play around with whatever accents you like. No one is going to be annoyed at you for making an impression of a Brooklyn accent. Actually I think it would be pretty fucking hilarious.

I'm sorry I dont really have much advice for learning various accents, but I wish you luck. Most Americans I've known including myself suck at mimicking a different accent from their own. I would imagine it all comes down to practice and exposure, much like other aspects of language learning.
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Nell Fuckingbury - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:07:09 EST ID:JLjfl5dy No.12643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12635
Oh please, minnesota has easily the worst accent in the US.
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:14:39 EST ID:4mLsiRJ7 No.12658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12643
Wisconsin and Chicago are worse.
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Fanny Cummleforth - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 14:18:09 EST ID:nfM/QbD0 No.12659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, you should look into the dialects spoken around New Orleans, Louisiana. They would likely fit with your native french tongue and the whole creole/cajun environment is one that is often used in scenes requiring voice over.


Mandarin self-learning by Albert Turveystock - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 07:08:37 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12618 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I need some kind of tone-learning program for Mandarin that I could turn on and practice daily. No money here, so it has to be free or piratable. ;_;

In exchange I recommend Mitchel Thomas method for basic Chinese. Way better learning curve, than most other stuff.
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Jenny Blablingdale - Thu, 04 Aug 2016 17:31:03 EST ID:daTvN+Hg No.12619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't help, but did you really like the Mandarin Michel Thomas course? I've heard nothing but bad things about the posthumous stuff and the original courses rely so heavily on cognates that I have a hard time seeing it working out for Asian languages.
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Matilda Murdham - Tue, 09 Aug 2016 14:39:11 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12619

tbh I can only compare it to rosetta and pimsleur

it has 10000% better curve, than p. and actually mentions tones. I'm not complaining.
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Emma Lightdock - Wed, 10 Aug 2016 06:23:09 EST ID:7T6bny35 No.12624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I honestly dont know of any program that focuses exclusively on tones. I've been studying mandarin for a few years now and it took me until recently to finally get the tones right. What it came down to in the end was lots of practice and listening exposure. Rosetta stone is not a bad one for that as you can do it at your own pace and repeat until you get it right. The learning curve might seem hard at first as there is no English involved but it really does start out pretty basic and once you get a bit more exposure it will actually start to seem overly simplistic. When you learn a new word, repeat until you get the sound correct, after a while you will start to associate certain sounds with the different tones and from there it comes naturally. Dont give up just because you dont feel like you are making any progress, you are probably getting a lot more out of it than you think.
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Basil Brookshit - Tue, 16 Aug 2016 05:23:38 EST ID:DZYdMmPM No.12634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>12618
Hm, I have trouble advising on this because I had the luxury of living in a massive Chinese city (Tianjin) which had little in the way of English, so getting by demanded I learn.

I had a book and a good friend to work on it with me. To learn a language, you need to be around it and diving into it. Once I understood the tones, I learned some characters. When I could understand characters, I could learn some basic syntax/grammar rules (the simplest part of Mandarin, no doubt). After I got that, I learned some simple sentence structures. Here's where it got interesting.

I began to deconstruct and mess with sents. I would replace verbs, nouns and adjectives to make my own. Travel comes down to two basic elements for you to communicate: "I want this, I don't want this". After a while, I got so used to the elemental nature of chinese sentence structures that I could start veeeery slowly working through authentic materials (native speaker materials). I found some mandarin comic books for dragon ball, and it really took off from there.

说真话我的中文实在退步了很多,但一个年学习我还觉得挺不错。虽然我根本不是继续学中文,但是我还很快再记得。随时会跟母语人有“还可以”的谈话,哈哈。

Do you have QQ messenger? Find some chinese people who want to learn English.
Pimsleur is alright. Maybe pirate some rosetta stone, it's not SHIT but anything that doesn't involve direct interaction with another person is missing the point of a language entirely.
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Angus Gumbledotch - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:39:17 EST ID:VsaRwmTc No.12636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay, so no programs for tones... How about writing? I learned English that way - by reading. There's a firefox plugin that allows to view meaning and sound of every Chinese character, so this shouldn't be that much different after learning the very basics of the language? If so, are there good logogram programs?

I'm big on interactive stuff, since it's easier to engage in small doses on a daily basis and keep a steady pace, than with something like a handbook, which dishes out chapter-sized bites.

Also, where do I get a big list of tone drills? I only see small crappy sample sizes.

PS It's easier to go from traditional to simplified, than vice versa, right? I don't plan on learning to write, so trad would seem more optimal (I also have a history buff streak and learning older scripts eventually is a possibility).


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