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How much should I expect to pay? by Ernest Caffingford - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:24:11 EST ID:w9qlNc4Q No.45788 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I got caught going way too fast on a rural route. I was going 80 in a 60 and got pulled by an undercover car.

I've decided it's worth it to get a lawyer to try and plead my way into traffic school. I'm actually feeling pretty remorseful about it, I'm just depressed and driving through rural areas is bleaker than fuck. I have no other defense.

I'm in VA, does anyone know how much I can expect to pay for a traffic lawyer?
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Sidney Lightshit - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 16:18:23 EST ID:Wld+/Fwa No.45938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Prosecutor here: we do that all the time. Fighting a speeding ticket is insane unless you're going to lose your license.
apsavage !7pJdAZLSeo - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 01:47:44 EST ID:kvvZkdTk No.45939 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Every single time I've been to misdemeanor court, at least half the people there are for minor traffic violations.

Every single person who fought their ticket just ended up making themselves look like an ass and got as close to the max as possible everytime. (If not the max) Almost the entire group who plead guilty are offered some offer in the two or so hours between whatever time you're asked to be there (usually 8) and whenever the judge actually shows up and court begins (usually 10). Honestly this is true for almost all misdemeanors that don't carry minimum sentences. I see so many people try to fight possession of marijuana charges when if they plea guilty 9/10 it's reduced to criminal mischief 1rst offense and $100 fine I wonder about their sanity.

Seriously don't fight moronic shit like this unless it will cost you your license, your job, or if you ever plan on running for office. Pay your ~$150 and fuck off lol. It's unfortunate you even have to waste time in court over this stupid shit and can't just pay online.
Martha Bommlewater - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:26:30 EST ID:9By6r+1d No.45943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No police officer would show up in court for this. This not a jail able offense. He would likely talk to the DA for a few moments, be 'offered' a 'basic' fine, lose a few simple points.

Basic traffic court. Not even a public urination level of an offense.
Martha Bommlewater - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:38:31 EST ID:9By6r+1d No.45944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Prosecutor here: we do that all the time. Fighting a speeding ticket is insane

I have seen people not fight it, but have a reasonable reason for 'not knowing'
their speed. Now speeding, we have street racing, speed contests, which is
a crime on it's own and kinda serious, like felony serious.
Shit Clucklelot - Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:03:25 EST ID:1xEwN5jy No.45947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know the law in other states, but I imagine it's similar to mine. To convict you of speeding, I don't have to prove you were traveling any specific amount over the speed limit, just that you were going over the limit.

I've never seen anyone successfully fight a speeding ticket. It just doesn't work, and then I'm doubling your fine.

Burglary by Dextrolord - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:54:15 EST ID:t/5niU+5 No.45946 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So here's how it is...

I got caught breaking into some cars and in my state, NV, that is a burglary and a felony. So the official charges break down to 4 burglary felonies, 2 damage to property misdemeanors, and one unlawful possession of a debit card gross misdemeanor.

Now I can't in any way afford a high powered attorney and my public defender isn't too enthusiastic about fighting my case.

The current offer is plea no contest to one felony and the gross misdemeanor and the DA won't oppose diversion court and Ill pay restitution and do probation but have a felony on my record.

The original plea offer was plea no contest to one felony and pay restitution and do probation with no mention of diversion court.

One lawyer I spoke to said I have a good case to just argue for diversion court after taking the original plea offer and that sounds good to me cuz I want to keep my record clean in the long run but my appointed attorney said once a new deal is on the table the old one is now unavailable.

Does anyone know anything about this? What do you guys think I should do?

Need information by apsavage !7pJdAZLSeo - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:34:13 EST ID:kvvZkdTk No.45937 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok, so here's the backstory. I went to prison in 2015 for a bunch of shit (agrravated bat, 4 simple battery, 5 simple burglary, 3rd DUI) that on 4/20/15 got plead out to 3rd DUI (5 yrs, suspend 4 w/ 5 yrs probation) and Unauthorized Entry Into an Inhabited Dwelling (6 yrs suspend 5) I got out in May of 2016 with credit for time served and in June of 16 I went back for 2nd ° Battery, Battery on a PO, Simple Battery, and Simple Burglary which were dropped with the agreement that I would have my probation revoked and serve the suspended sentence. After earning good time I got out on June 12, 2017.

Anyways, while I was serving time my uncle (70) and aunt (67) died within 2 months of each other (April/June of 16). They were both pos who have taken advantage of my grandmother for years to the tune of millions of dollars. Well my Aunt was doing all the will crap before she died (probably why she died, karmas a bitch greedy ass) and since I was locked up my grandmother FINALLY saw how shit her kids were an axed them and their no show families out of the will and made my sister executrix / trustee of her will and estate going forward as well as granting her power of attorney. This is all great, don't really care at the time etc.

Well fast forward to July of 2017 and I am busy trying to do things for my twins, their mother, my parole officer etc and while I was aware my grandmother was selling parts of 7,000 acres she owns for years it's just recently that she has been having motor/mental problems so I didn't think much when I saw she was selling her father's old home place/farm.

The problem about the land in question is that it's worth 9-11k/acre and original listing price was 300k (29 acres) at the beginning of July. She closed on that piece Tuesday for 165k. I've had SEVERAL people call me since then congratulating etc until they ask what we got for it.

Supposedly a bunch of people were willing to buy it at around 8k or even 12k for parts of it. Thankfully there is still about 1,000 acres across various parts of her lil empire that going forward I will oversee but is there any legal action I could take against the realtor/buyers? My grandmother didn't even realize she w…
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Eliza Criddlemudging - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:57:06 EST ID:R25Uyzaw No.45940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't understand what you want help with. You say you're already contesting the power of attorney. You should read up on your state law to find out exactly what that takes. Selling property below market value doesn't sound good but isn't necessarily against your grandmother's best interests and depending on her mental state it's not surprising that she wouldn't know about it.
Eliza Criddlemudging - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:59:24 EST ID:R25Uyzaw No.45941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't understand what you need help with. You say you're already in the process of contesting power of attorney. You should read up on state law to find out exactly what that requires. Selling property below market value doesn't sound good, but it's not necessarily against your grandmother's best interests and depending on her mental capacity it might not be surprising that she didn't know anything about it.
Eliza Criddlemudging - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:27:56 EST ID:R25Uyzaw No.45942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't understand what you need help with. You say you're already in the process of contesting power of attorney. You should read up on state law to find out exactly what that requires. Selling property below market value doesn't sound good, but it's not necessarily against your grandmother's best interests and depending on her mental capacity it might not be surprising that she didn't know anything about it.
apsavage !7pJdAZLSeo - Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:12:02 EST ID:kvvZkdTk No.45945 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I guess I just wanted to know how reasonable it would be to bother pursuing this legally before I bother hiring a lawyer. Doesn't really matter anymore. She died.

SSI and saving money. by James Pockdale - Sun, 08 Oct 2017 13:33:54 EST ID:Y6izbsvG No.45930 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hopefully I'm going to be going on SSI/SSDI by the end of the year,

So with SSI you're only supposed to have $2000 in assets or your benefits stop. Now the SSA can only monitor what you have in the bank, so if you never mention it is there anything stopping you from saving cash in a safe at home that the SSA doesn't know about? It seems logical that you could do this and I've checked a few other sources online that have mentioned doing this, but I'm curious what /law/'s opinion and experience is.

On a side note I think it is really idiotic that you can't save money on SSI. So... apparently the SSA deems that if you can save beyond a certain amount, you don't deserve disability because you're doing well enough?
Ron_Paul_Revolution - Sun, 08 Oct 2017 21:44:30 EST ID:qZRuVaLh No.45931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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God bless America.
David Hindercocke - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:02:16 EST ID:Wld+/Fwa No.45932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, asking how to defraud the government isn't really going to get you good answers.
Martin Dandledale - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:32:11 EST ID:Y6izbsvG No.45933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Right... sorry... it's just a frustrating thing.

From what I understand the resource limit that contributes to the $2000 excludes things that are personal effects and things that can not actually be sold.

I guess I could just force myself to spend the extra cash on things like amazon credit since that's something I can not sell for cash and probably silver, gold, or platinum coins since those could conceivably fall under personal effects.

I just need a way to save resources for a rainy day or emergencies beyond the $2000 limit.
Reuben Classlecocke - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:09:59 EST ID:7+bAkpmb No.45934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How about get a job?
riot_police - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 17:19:35 EST ID:qZRuVaLh No.45935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nice fail crowd control

how to tell which backpage ads are cops? by Sophie Buffingterk - Tue, 01 Dec 2015 01:20:22 EST ID:qF6nKSH+ No.44870 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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For example, this right here. How can I tell if that's a pig? Is 180 for an HR with this bitch suspiciously affordable? I would 100% smash on that. I would pay 180 a day to smash that.
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Emma Goodridge - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:48:00 EST ID:ORTlGTgk No.44956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's gonna get you arrested dude
Charlotte Coblingferk - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:39:38 EST ID:bYyRe41h No.45924 Ignore Report Quick Reply

um, they cam legally get naked. all that bs about asking if they are a cop, not being able to disrobe, that you have to actually show up after you make a call are not true. dont say anything that you are expecting, if asked state it is only companionship since you have no friends and like pretty girls. but really if they ask what you want for $$ then hang up orjust say "you know, just hang out". when meeting someone, if in doubt, let them touch your junk before you do anything.
Edwin Grimstock - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 02:26:41 EST ID:9CaCcwnY No.45925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In most places, cops and anyone else can legally touch your junk if you're inviting or allowing them to do so. And cops will do it, especially if it's through your clothes. Offering money for naked pictures is an all around smarter idea although it sounds like such a hassle that I'll bet real hookers would tell you to go fuck yourself.
Eugene Doshfat - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 10:37:30 EST ID:eLF/eg0W No.45926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't believe there are cops out there willing to touch some strangers dick or show their tits just for their job. Damn, them niggas must really take that shit seriously. Especially for how little cops are paid.
Rebecca Fangerdit - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 19:58:37 EST ID:j/2oCiw2 No.45929 Ignore Report Quick Reply

maybe they like it

Religious use of Psychotropic Mushrooms by Jarvis Crizzlewell - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 05:05:29 EST ID:zaca+Qtt No.45927 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was wondering if anyone was familiar with whether or not you can use freedom of religion as a legal case for possession of psychotropic mushrooms. I live in California by the way. I unfortunately don't have any, nor am I involved in any legal matter with them, I was just curious about it. Considering all the bullshit people are getting away with doing these days and just crying "religious freedom" to get their way, I would hope that I could call upon the millennia-old commonly known concept of religious use of substances as a legitimate use of this concept.

Anyone know of this coming up, being tried before? What juries have decided?
Graham Nommermutch - Sat, 30 Sep 2017 10:35:24 EST ID:1xEwN5jy No.45928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah that's just Employment Division V. Smith, one of the most seminal cases in 1st amendment law. Even if it wasn't a criminal statute (which pretty much automatically makes the 1st amendment inapplicable) you're trying to defend against, it's not going to work.

Unlawful Possession of Marijuana in NY by Barnaby Fummlefine - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:12:59 EST ID:D3FQbMvY No.45923 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Howdy. Have any of y'all received a UPM in NY? it seems like a pretty little deal, something like a speeding ticket. I'm just curious if theres anything I need to watch out for or avoid. Otherwise I'm just going to pay the fines and not fight the charge.

Abandoned Property by Cornelius Brarringhood - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:39:40 EST ID:yBlJpx2H No.45886 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am buying a house in Iowa where there is a hot tub. The current owner, B, was previously selling this house on contract, and the buyer bought said hot tub. He last made a payment in January, then moved out of state has not responded to a certified letter from B who had to go through a bunch of legal bullshit to regain ownership.

From what I understand, this guy has one year to come claim his stuff, which really seems like it won't happen. Is that one year from when the certified letter was sent? It's also legally supposed to be in "storage" (I guess just sitting where it is with the cover on collecting leaves) so my real question is: Could I be in any... hot water... if I clean it up, fill it, and do some soaking with topless babes in it before it's officially mine? Chances are he won't show up, and if he does he won't care; I'd just like to know what I'm getting into.
Cornelius Brarringhood - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:41:33 EST ID:yBlJpx2H No.45887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually I mean they couldn't even find him to deliver a certified letter.
Matilda Brindlefut - Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:48:05 EST ID:8TO6geGJ No.45888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dunno about the law but hot tubs are an endless nightmare to keep working. Do what every other used hot tub owner does and literally sell it for 40 dollars and wash your hands of it. If you have it in your possession of course.
Edward Hammlefoot - Mon, 31 Jul 2017 03:26:42 EST ID:jQqRMIfA No.45889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
certified pool operator here

chlorine is destroyed by heat, bacteria is more likely to grow in heat. you need to drain and fill it regularly because scale will form due to too many dissolved solids and heat. all around, id avoid a hot tub unless you want to constantly be checking the chemicals (im talking all the fucking time, once a day min).

another thought, a hot tub is lets say, 10 to 15 times as many gallons as a bathtub. idk if id use another persons bath water so how many times are you going to let someone use the hot tub before you switch out the water.
Polly Dromblebury - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:25:09 EST ID:0ooUxLzL No.45922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fucking savage ape westerners cannot conceive of the idea of showering before entering the tub

carrying prescription questions by Reuben Goodspear - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:40:25 EST ID:BxEchvf3 No.45920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am in Missouri. My friend and I are both prescribed the same drug with the same dosage. (Alzprazolam, 0.5 mg.) Ssometimes I'll front him some of my rx until he gets his filled. He then gives me an equal amount back when he gets his. The problem? Although it's the same drug, mine are round and peach and his are pink and oval. Although I've had prescription drugs where the imprints aren't written on the bottle, that's not the case with Walmart's pharmacy. If I got pulled over and searched and had the same drug of the same dosage as I take in my prescription bottle, but made by the same manufacturer, would I get in trouble? What if the label didn't say what the pills are supposed to look like?
I also have a habit of leaving the majority of my prescriptions in an extra bottle at home, and carrying with me only what I need that day, to make sure I don't lose the while script if my purse gets stolen or something. I also have a prescription for Adderall IR with which I do the same. Would I get in trouble for having a bottle that's old, or a recently filled prescription where the majority of pills are missing? The labels for the Adderall say they expire after 30 days of being filled. Would storing pills in an expired container mean that I no longer have a lawful use for them? Is putting them in a smaller container (like one of those weekly ones) illegal? Thank you.
Priscilla Crinkintudge - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 21:21:11 EST ID:mTEKt3Rd No.45921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah all of that is illegal. In my state at least having pills in a pill organizer in your own home is illegal (whether anyone would be prosecuted is a different story.

Same thing will all that you said. Everything you describe above is illegal. However, whether anyone would prosecute you, who knows.

Good luck.

Blacked out, woke up in jail - need advice by Shitting Gonderworth - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:41:55 EST ID:CmGJ9czi No.45912 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So last week, to cap off what had been unto that point a pleasant and regular night, I blacked out and came too in jail with an Aggravated Trespassing and Public Intoxication charge. I have no memory of what happened and, due to potential embarrasment, I waived the reading of my affadavit in court. I meet with the public defender next Friday and return to court on the 25th.

Because I do not know what happened, I have no idea if my chstge is a class A or B misdemeanor. I am in Tennessee and have no prior criminal record. Can anyone here tell me what kind of potential penalties I'm looking at, as well as thr possibility of a diversion? Thanks all.
Shitting Gonderworth - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 22:44:18 EST ID:CmGJ9czi No.45913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry for the type-os, I am posting from my phone.
Fuck Wingerspear - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 11:31:37 EST ID:d4ORe5/u No.45914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
use that phone, and call a lawyer.
Henry Nugglebury - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 03:50:09 EST ID:CmGJ9czi No.45916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a meeting with a public defender on the fifteenth, I was just trying to become as reasonably informed about the expectations here so that I could be a better client and defendant if possible and not have to waste a lot of time in court.
Esther Drushwell - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:21:36 EST ID:mTEKt3Rd No.45918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't need to know anything to be a better client. They went to law school, you didn't. They'll advise you of your options on the 15th.

Like you said, without the facts there's no way to tell you whether it's an A or B class misdemeanor, and there's no way to advise you of the chances of diversion, because that's a contract between you and the prosecutor and varies by jurisdiction.

In my jurisdiction it's not a diversion case though.
Reuben Goodspear - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:06:47 EST ID:BxEchvf3 No.45919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I don't know about your state, but in mine we have a public records database called Casenet. You can look up your current charges, past convictions, civil cases, and more. This seems to be the Tennesseean version of that. Good luck.

Cops are fucked up by Fucking Fusslepedge - Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:03:30 EST ID:eeF1X3/S No.45898 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My buddy was driving to electric forest music festival back in June. He got pulled over. The police searched his car, they found an empty bag of coke and took it and said he'd get a ticket in the mail. They also took his girlfriends 5-htp assuming that it was molly "To get tested"

Now he gets a notice that he got a felony drug charge and was found with 25 grams of cocaine. This kid is totally fucked. He doesnt live in michigan where he was charged.

Whats gonna happen to him? He was honestly not found with any cocaine except the empty baggy, and no arrest was made. He does not live in the state of michigan where the supposed bust took place.
Hedda Pickham - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 21:56:12 EST ID:vFXTPiU9 No.45910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's messed up
Hedda Shittingstock - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 21:56:25 EST ID:MoBdd06M No.45911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's messed up
Eugene Pomblestock - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:44:05 EST ID:7+bAkpmb No.45917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's messed up

Legal to drive without a licance? by Johnny Longdong - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:37:34 EST ID:kNMIPpW6 No.45904 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This age-old debate has been argued back and forth with no definitive answers. It seems courts have ruled both ways on this throughout the past.
It's written that we have a right to travel, but it's been argued that it does not specify we have the right to use a vehicle. The right to travel constitutes any other means besides a motor vehicle; walk, ride a horse, a bike, swim, canoe, whatever. However, I can't ride a horse on the highway, and many roads are far too dangerous to walk and do not provide walkways. Reasonable means of travel mandates the use of a motor vehicle in today's times, or you're breaking other laws like "obstructing traffic".


“The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guaranty one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another’s rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct.”


Thompson v.Smith, 154 SE 579, 11 American Jurisprudence, Constitutional Law, section 329, page 1135 “The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, is a common right which he has under the right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right, in so doing, to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day, and under the existing modes of travel, includes the right to drive a horse drawn carriage or wagon thereon or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purpose of life and business.” –

Thompson vs. Smith, supra.; Teche Lines vs. Danforth, Miss., 12 S.2d 784 “… the right of the citizen to drive on a public street with freedom from police interference… is a fundamental constitutional right” -White, 97 Cal.App.3d.141, 158 Cal.Rptr. 562, 566-67 (1979) “citizens have a right to drive upon the public streets of the District of Columbia or any other city absent a constitutionally sound reason for limiting their access.”

Caneisha Mills v. D.C. 2009 “The use of the automobile as a necessary adjunct to the earning of a livelihood in modern life requires us in the interest of realism to conclude that the RIGHT to use an automobile on the public highways partakes of the nature of a liberty within the meaning of the Constitutional guarantees. . .”
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Johnny Longdong - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:38:55 EST ID:kNMIPpW6 No.45905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
-City of Dayton vs. DeBrosse, 23 NE.2d 647, 650; 62 Ohio App. 232 “Thus self-driven vehicles are classified according to the use to which they are put rather than according to the means by which they are propelled” – Ex Parte Hoffert, 148 NW 20 ”

The Supreme Court, in Arthur v. Morgan, 112 U.S. 495, 5 S.Ct. 241, 28 L.Ed. 825, held that carriages were properly classified as household effects, and we see no reason that automobiles should not be similarly disposed of.”

Hillhouse v United States, 152 F. 163, 164 (2nd Cir. 1907). “…a citizen has the right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon…” State vs. Johnson, 243 P. 1073; Cummins vs. Homes, 155 P. 171; Packard vs. Banton, 44 S.Ct. 256; Hadfield vs. Lundin, 98 Wash 516, Willis vs. Buck, 263 P. l 982;

Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82 “The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived.”

Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 NE 22; Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 NE 934; Boon vs. Clark, 214 SSW 607; 25 Am.Jur. (1st) Highways Sect.163 “the right of the Citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business… is the usual and ordinary right of the Citizen, a right common to all.” –

Ex Parte Dickey, (Dickey vs. Davis), 85 SE 781 “Every Citizen has an unalienable RIGHT to make use of the public highways of the state; every Citizen has full freedom to travel from place to place in the enjoyment of life and liberty.” People v. Nothaus, 147 Colo. 210. “No State government entity has the power to allow or deny passage on the highways, byways, nor waterways… transporting his vehicles and personal property for either recreation or business, but by being subject only to local regulation i.e., safety, caution, traffic lights, speed limits, etc. Travel is not a privilege requiring licensing, vehicle registration, or forced insurances.”

Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 169 N.E. 22. “Traffic infractions are not a crime.” People v. Battle “Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right… may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right.”

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969). U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets No License Is Necessary Copy and Share Freely YHVH.name 3 “The word ‘operator’ shall not include any person who solely transports his own property and who transports no persons or property for hire or compensation.”
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Clara Claybanks - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:47:27 EST ID:kNMIPpW6 No.45906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kent vs. Dulles see Vestal, Freedom of Movement, 41 Iowa L.Rev. 6, 13—14. “The validity of restrictions on the freedom of movement of particular individuals, both substantively and procedurally, is precisely the sort of matter that is the peculiar domain of the courts.” Comment, 61 Yale L.J. at page 187. “a person detained for an investigatory stop can be questioned but is “not obliged to answer, answers may not be compelled, and refusal to answer furnishes no basis for an arrest.”Justice White, Hiibel “Automobiles have the right to use the highways of the State on an equal footing with other vehicles.”

Cumberland Telephone. & Telegraph Co. v Yeiser 141 Kentucy 15. “Each citizen has the absolute right to choose for himself the mode of conveyance he desires, whether it be by wagon or carriage, by horse, motor or electric car, or by bicycle, or astride of a horse, subject to the sole condition that he will observe all those requirements that are known as the law of the road.”

Swift v City of Topeka, 43 U.S. Supreme Court says No License Necessary To Drive Automobile On Public Highways/Streets No License Is Necessary Copy and Share Freely YHVH.name 4 Kansas 671, 674. The Supreme Court said in U.S. v Mersky (1960) 361 U.S. 431: An administrative regulation, of course, is not a “statute.” A traveler on foot has the same right to use of the public highway as an automobile or any other vehicle.

Cecchi v. Lindsay, 75 Atl. 376, 377, 1 Boyce (Del.) 185. Automotive vehicles are lawful means of conveyance and have equal rights upon the streets with horses and carriages.

Chicago Coach Co. v. City of Chicago, 337 Ill. 200, 205; See also: Christy v. Elliot, 216 Ill. 31; Ward v. Meredith, 202 Ill. 66; Shinkle v. McCullough, 116 Ky. 960; Butler v. Cabe, 116 Ark. 26, 28-29. …automobiles are lawful vehicles and have equal rights on the highways with horses and carriages. Daily v. Maxwell, 133 S.W. 351, 354.

Matson v. Dawson, 178 N.W. 2d 588, 591. A farmer has the same right to the use of the highways of the state, whether on foot or in a motor vehicle, as any other citizen.

Draffin v. Massey, 92 S.E.2d 38, 42. Persons may lawfully ride in automobiles, as they may lawfully ride on bicycles. Doherty v. Ayer, 83 N.E. 677, 197 Mass. 241, 246;

Molway v. City of Chicago, 88 N.E. 485, 486, 239 Ill. 486; Smiley v. East St. Louis Ry. Co., 100 N.E. 157, 158. “A soldier’s personal automobile is part of his ‘household goods[.]’
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Martha Claybanks - Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:57:56 EST ID:DeUulLMn No.45907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not a debate. If you're going to travel by car on public roads you have to have a license. Bullshit sovereign citizen arguments just get you thrown in jail for pissing off the court.
Nicholas Noshwater - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:23:36 EST ID:b0OjQMtf No.45908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually, I am genuinely curious why people think that there's some magic out there that if you just ~get woke breh~ certain laws don't apply to you.

Do people think that lawyers are playing by rules that don't exist for shits an giggles and if they go to court an start rambling off nonsense they read on the internet the court is just going to go "oh he got you on this one counselor, case dismissed!"

Wesley Bunway - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 10:45:36 EST ID:U2UDYvRA No.45909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I think you sort of answered your own question, pseudolaw is an offspring of magical thinking. The law as practiced is recondite enough and contains enough stereotyped ritual that it provides the foundation for a parallel body of cargo-cult praxis — pseudolawyers offer all kinds of seals, incantations, and rituals that are supposed to protect you from legal consequence.

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