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Where does the money from a refund originate on a credit card billing dispute by Nathaniel Bunforth - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:54:13 EST ID:c9lBFWvg No.44709 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys. I have a question about where the money from a refund originates - On the winning side of a billing dispute on a charge listed on my account with my credit card company.

I disputed a charge on my account, through my credit card company. They told me I won, and they sided with me. They refunded the amount back onto my account.

My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant? Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

Or does the credit card company simply give me a refund out of their own pocket as a courtesy for being a customer?

I have always wondered this.
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Basil Fegglecocke - Thu, 19 May 2016 07:37:29 EST ID:f8Fs6quN No.45329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nowhere, there is no money. Just numbers on paper/screens. They either increase the numbers on your bank statement or decrease the numbers on your bill. They do eventually force the merchants to "pay" them, which is why ghetto liquor stores only take debit for alcohol, but this is just in the form of taking the sum out of the next bank transfer to them. If the dispute refund is instant(ish), then it does initially come out of the credit card company's account, else they squeeze the merchant for it first which is increasingly common due to abuse.
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Angus Hubberbanks - Thu, 26 May 2016 23:44:44 EST ID:tyqJISl8 No.45346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant?

yes

>Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

yes the merchant lost those moneys

card companies like american express will ALWAYS side with the card holder

I work at a hotel and we never require signatures at all when guests check in, because of this anyone can charge back on their credit card and claim they didn't stay here.

if you sign something at a retail store and charge back you might have a lawsuit incoming from the place you charged back from if your signature is there


WEED BUST by Angus Fingersure - Sun, 27 Mar 2016 00:44:11 EST ID:qShHsWwO No.45250 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was allegedly caught with a 1/2 pound of High CBD weed and $2500 cash. I was charged with trafficking in Canada. What can i do? My lawyer is off for the weekend and im scared. Its not my first offence but my first of one this bad. Any tips so i stay out of jail? I had a panic attack when i got busted but when the cops with the ambulance i just went with the cops instead and now they said i faked a medical emergency. I need some help guys
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Phineas Blocklekut - Fri, 13 May 2016 05:39:47 EST ID:AnWZNaPF No.45313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45252
Is 2500 like an obscene amount of money to carry around?

I know completely average people who carry anywhere never less than 1k on them to several thousand sometimes. This seems stupid. I know poor people who still run around with 300-500 dollars cash. Even if it is all the money they have.

I honestly laughed when I saw 1/2lb and 2500 as trafficking. Maybe some 14 y/o kid selling at his school. lel
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Lillian Nemmleworth - Mon, 23 May 2016 11:28:11 EST ID:Nt9vmn54 No.45336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45313
Dude, where the fuck do you live?
Around here, only the rich walk around with over 1K in their pockets, and the poor sure as fuck don't have 300$ in their pockets.
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Eugene Bardwill - Mon, 23 May 2016 18:34:27 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45336
>Implying rich people walk around with large amounts of cash

Lol ok, maybe nouveau riche trash. But they are just gagging to give that money back to us. Real money doesn't do insipid shit like that. Carrying cash is for plebs.
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Ebenezer Sandleridge - Wed, 25 May 2016 03:11:38 EST ID:Q+eYDGG0 No.45343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45313
>Is 2500 like an obscene amount of money to carry around?

Should not be. But if any drugs can be found with it, it's as good as gone in some places. The US at a time and today as well, can simply confiscate amounts of cash and deem it drug cash. If parahelenia or drugs are found alongside. Not good.

2500 is somewhat unique, drugs or not pigs have taken peoples moey, jailed them as well. At times a mere few bills found with drugs or paraphenelia the moey is forfeiteted to the county/state by default.
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Sophie Tillingshit - Wed, 25 May 2016 07:25:31 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45343
you explained this kinda shitily so ill do a better job or try too

asset forfiture is the process by which police may sieze assets they believe to be in connection to illegal activity. this can include large sums of money and or objects they say facilitate illegal activity.

for being an unemployed and having 2 grand in small bills screams these funds were obtained illegally, on the other hand being a stripper walking around with a bag of coke and 2k in your pocket doesnt. its all about the circumstances surrounding the situation

you should look into asset forfeiture. its a rather murky topic that has alot of strange stories with it. you'll hear stories used car dealers sending their employees with 20k in cash to the auction, getting stopped and having the assests siezed even with out drugs present. http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/30/the-7-most-egregious-examples-of-civil-asset-forfeiture/


What can the pres actually do? by Cedric Drenningfoot - Thu, 12 May 2016 23:15:28 EST ID:CLAdTZPI No.45311 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /law/ this is a general question rather than a plea for legal advice but this still seemed like the best board. Everyone talks about the President of the US as regards to drug policy, but theoretically if a super pro-pot person got elected then what could they even do? I seem to remember reading that the president gets a direct say in what the Scheduling of specific drugs is but I'm curious if that's the full extent of their power (or even if that's accurate at all) aside from suggesting legislation to congress?
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Shitting Sillyfuck - Fri, 13 May 2016 08:14:23 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Technically all the president can do by himself is withdraw from the handful of treaties that America is a party to that require pot to be illegal.

The power to schedule drugs under the CSA is this convoluted process through the DEA, HHS, and the FDA. I don't know that much about administrative law, but it does seem like a president could motivate these organizations to go his way if he wanted to, or he could find agency heads who would. This determination would be subject to judicial review though under Chevron, which means the court could strike down the finding if it's found to be unreasonable.

So no, it doesn't require legislative action. At least at the federal level, it would require a shit ton of legislation across nearly every state though.
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Frederick Foddleson - Fri, 13 May 2016 11:25:19 EST ID:Anc+ndqI No.45315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I suppose he could technically pardon every offender.
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Polly Blythewater - Fri, 13 May 2016 23:15:54 EST ID:uLJPOHRz No.45316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45315
Presidents can only pardon federal crimes, so he can't really do much for street level dealing or use offenses.
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Molly Blallernure - Thu, 19 May 2016 08:55:46 EST ID:jgu/8HmY No.45330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45316
clinton did for his brother. I think it was for coke though.
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Hedda Pebberfidge - Thu, 19 May 2016 11:26:39 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45330
Roger Clinton had federal drug charges, specifically Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, 21 U.S.C. § 846 and Distribution of cocaine, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), and was convicted in the western district of the federal district court of Arkansas.

Because it was federal Bill could pardon him, he couldn't (and didn't) pardon his cocaine possession or DUI convictions.


What law would I be breaking? by Jarvis Gangerchan - Wed, 18 May 2016 10:04:52 EST ID:d44nGmxv No.45325 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I live in Ohio.
I've noticed the paper used for releasing people like me from probation has a very similar appearance to those the police use to apply for warrants. If I were to put a probation release form in the judge's office mailbox where warrants go, rather than the box for probation forms, what laws would I be breaking? Would playing dumb about where forms go be a good enough excuse? I know every warrant gets signed without ever being read. Whether it would work just seems a matter of the paper ending up back in the probation office.
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Albert Deshkodging - Wed, 18 May 2016 16:58:12 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45325
I know every warrant gets signed without ever being read. Whether it would work just seems a matter of the paper ending up back in the probation office.



try again.


Vinyl by Reuben Funderwater - Mon, 16 May 2016 01:37:12 EST ID:j6cYZyBb No.45318 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I own a copy of Floyd on vinyl, am I allowed to download those albums in the US
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Ebenezer Cranningdere - Mon, 16 May 2016 03:24:12 EST ID:Q2bHITxC No.45319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're allowed to make and possess copies for personal use, but you're never allowed to distribute them which is generally what you do when you download using peer-to-peer.
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Phyllis Sambleshit - Tue, 17 May 2016 20:35:35 EST ID:pe4FbCPz No.45324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45318
youtube pink floyd, remastered recordings.


muh gun by Delinquint Tray !rU8mq5Ca7M - Mon, 16 May 2016 22:33:51 EST ID:qmyw6qYu No.45320 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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tl;dr: yellow version
>bought a smith & wesson M&P 40 pistol c. 2009 in cali, registered in my name in theory
>couple years passed, shit went bad for me
>went to georgia to live with army buddy
>shit went south, had to bus back to cali to be homeless
>left my pistol with my then-buddy for safekeeping among other issues
>no longer have contact with said dude, can't get contact either
>need pistol back before moving to grizzlyville, ak
>dude since moved from ga to nm based on what little i could glean from the interbutts
>pistol has since been added to some bullshit "gun control" faggoty list precluding direct import afaik

other stuff was also left behind, and i have no reason to assume it no longer exists based on my knowledge of the dude.
how should i get it back, or should i just write it off as a total loss?
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Clara Billerbury - Tue, 17 May 2016 00:13:29 EST ID:7PhiV2Pl No.45321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45320
I may be wrong but I think that you transfer possession of the firearm if you leave it with someone for over 6 months.
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Martin Clollyputch - Tue, 17 May 2016 02:07:10 EST ID:2Qb4yyph No.45322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you didn't have some agreement about your stuff and just left it there indefinitely, you abandoned it. It's unlikely that you can legally claim any of it, but he might just give it to you.
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Ian Wubblewater - Tue, 17 May 2016 05:09:49 EST ID:2mRxdK56 No.45323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Contact an ffl. It's illegal to just mail fire arms AFAIK.


Are current gobal drug laws treason? by Rebecca Semblestet - Sun, 01 May 2016 16:26:53 EST ID:ND+j4Y+i No.45299 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've was reading this and I agree, our pols use ideologies to prop up the war on drugs, we know its not based in fact.
But actually, the laws undermine the state by forcing the profits to criminality further undermining the state hence, treason!
What you think?
https://jointhemdots.wordpress.com/2016/04/27/whats-another-word-for-treason/
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Jack Gemmerlack - Sun, 01 May 2016 21:45:37 EST ID:WVkGpHPm No.45300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think you're retarded.
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George Greenshit - Mon, 02 May 2016 12:28:36 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45299
Is whatever you've rotted your brain out with treason?
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Nicholas Pobberbury - Wed, 04 May 2016 20:34:07 EST ID:zkAq9fwX No.45304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ok, both of you, why?
I don't care about treason, the people who make and keep the laws do.
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Nicholas Pobberbury - Wed, 04 May 2016 20:35:26 EST ID:zkAq9fwX No.45305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45301
yes
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Lillian Gishford - Wed, 11 May 2016 19:58:03 EST ID:UVQbHXtr No.45310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45304
That is not treason. You have no knowledge of laws whatsoever.


Sudden death by Sidney Happerforth - Sun, 08 May 2016 03:49:57 EST ID:B7JlJ1MF No.45306 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So my mom just died /law/. Got the call last night.

It's 12:24 am here. Happy mother's day! I looked at her face and it was all bruised with a hint of vomit across one cheek. They stripped off all her clothes to get her on the stretcher... I was in the next town over when this happened so the neighbors had to call me. It must have been three days she was lying there on floor next to her bed. The signs seem to point to kidney failure. But this isn't a /qq/:

She did in fact leave a will. I intend to honor every word of it. The problem is that she didn't sign the thing yet!! A witness did sign it however and even more people saw her with it talking about it to them, myself included. Is it legally binding in any form? The estate in questions is like <$3000 (...subsidized housing).

I don't want the government or anyone to try to pull anything that would cause more pain to my sister and I and violate mom's vision of life after her passing. Maybe I'm just getting up in arms over nothing idk. Input?
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Sidney Happerforth - Sun, 08 May 2016 10:37:16 EST ID:B7JlJ1MF No.45307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well, I guess this just became a legacy question. found a copy where she did sign it.
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Jenny Seggleworth - Sun, 08 May 2016 11:27:06 EST ID:y5e+CA66 No.45308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>A witness did sign it however and even more people saw her with it talking about it to them, myself included.
It's really weird that a witness signed it but she didn't.

>Is it legally binding in any form?
Definitely not binding, but it can have some weight in the event of a dispute.

>I don't want the government or anyone to try to pull anything that would cause more pain to my sister and I and violate mom's vision of life after her passing.
What's going to happen is the estate will go to a probate court. The will is supposed to be the decedent's testimony to that court. The particulars vary by state, but if you and your sister are her only immediate family then you each get half of what's left over after debts, taxes, and fees. Your options for affecting the distribution of the estate are testifying in court or coming to an agreement with the other heirs and submitting that to the court.
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Isabella Tootcocke - Sun, 08 May 2016 16:32:17 EST ID:klBXCnVM No.45309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45306
Sorry to hear passing by. Take some time. Few things are as important.
Good luck to you and family.


Posession of Heroin Indictment by Archie Wocklelog - Tue, 19 Apr 2016 23:01:28 EST ID:5PhBYusF No.45277 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Wondering if I can beat this shit... Before I explain please let it be known I live in a small town with about 12k population... If your wondering why my county is petty.

Okay, so around 10pm or so, I went into the bathroom, my parents suspecting me of using in the bathroom. They called the cops on me while I was in the shower. I had a syringe and a spoon in the bathroom with me. I took the spoon in the shower with me (it was weird I had a gut feeling the cops were being called on me.) And I washed off the spoon while taking a shower. I got dressed, walked out of the bathroom, and 4-6 cops were waiting in the living room waiting for me. They told me to come there and I kept arguing with them, "Am I being arrested?" "What am I being detained for" "Why am I being held here I didnt commit a crime." blablabla...

Their answer was "You are being held for the sheriff."

I said "For what reason am I being held for the sheriff If I didnt commit any crimes."

They wouldn't answer. They just stayed silent...

I was sitting there at the table with the cops hands on my arms so I wouldn't move... For basically no reason other than my parents called and suspected me of using in the bathroom.

The sheriff got there (A narcotics agent in my small ass fucking town). And said they were going to search my room, which I argued I didnt give permission, they said my stepdad gave permission. So they did that and found nothing, Then she wanted to search my person, and I CLEARLY MADE IT A HUGE FUCKING BIG DEAL, that she cannot search my person and I wasnt giving her permission. She kept saying she was going to search for illegal weapons so the cops are safe. She patted me down and reached in my pockets and pulled out a clean spoon and syringe. Took me outside to the cop car, field tested the spoon with no witnesses and came back to me in the back of the cop car saying I was going to jail tonight for posession of heroin. So here I am today out on bond, just got served with a Felony 5th degree posession of heroin indictment. Its my 3rd posession charge the fuck do I do can I beat this shit with this search shit?
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Isabella Turveyman - Fri, 22 Apr 2016 15:55:40 EST ID:5PhBYusF No.45292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay I udnerstand that my parents called and said I had drugs, the point is. The officer told me he was searching for weapons, NOT CONTRABAND. Read this

The Ohio Court of Appeals allowed the search, but made it clear that such a search was limited to discovering dangerous weapons that could be used against the officer, as Chief Justice Warren noted:

"In this case, for example, the Ohio Court of Appeals stated that 'we must be careful to distinguish that the "frisk" authorized herein includes only a "frisk" for a dangerous weapon. It by no means authorizes a search for contraband, evidentiary material, or anything else in the absence of reasonable grounds to arrest. Such a search is controlled by the requirements of the Fourth Amendment, and probable cause is essential.' " (392 U.S. 1, at 16, Fn 12, quoting State v. Terry, 5 Ohio App. 2d 122, at 130)


The Ohio Court of Appeals allowed the search, but made it clear that such a search was limited to discovering dangerous weapons that could be used against the officer, as Chief Justice Warren noted:

"In this case, for example, the Ohio Court of Appeals stated that 'we must be careful to distinguish that the "frisk" authorized herein includes only a "frisk" for a dangerous weapon. It by no means authorizes a search for contraband, evidentiary material, or anything else in the absence of reasonable grounds to arrest. Such a search is controlled by the requirements of the Fourth Amendment, and probable cause is essential.' " (392 U.S. 1, at 16, Fn 12, quoting State v. Terry, 5 Ohio App. 2d 122, at 130)
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Emma Sollyhood - Fri, 22 Apr 2016 16:31:45 EST ID:mY8z3ti5 No.45293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45292
i moved past that and onto the cop probably had legal cause to search you for drugs. your parents accused you of a crime. the cops have a right to investigate that crime.
btw, did you look high/like a drug user/like somoene who had drugs on them. this could strengthen their right to search you even more thoroughly.


as i keep saying, contact a lawyer and see what they say. i gurentee you will not be able to argue this your self. at a certain point tho /law/ has to be practical. and what i think you should honestly do is contact a lawyer and see what they say. dont expect them to go to trial though unless you have money and instead expect to plea this shit out.
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Rebecca Munnerwill - Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:15:47 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45292
Also you need to refer back to one of my earlier points about how Terry doesn't answer the question. Stop reading Terry and get a lawyer.
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Lillian Smallhood - Mon, 25 Apr 2016 06:59:55 EST ID:mY8z3ti5 No.45295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45292
> The officer told me he was searching for weapons, NOT CONTRABAND

cops lie, get over it.
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Edwin Crisslenurk - Tue, 03 May 2016 22:01:15 EST ID:ZBt7N0X/ No.45303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45277
I'm an attorney, and I'll start by giving you the only advice: get an attorney. I'm guessing you're from the US, so your state should have a public defender's office. Sign up with them if you cannot hire an attorney. Despite what you've heard, they can be amazing attorneys. I am a public defender and the attorneys in my office are the best in the state.

There are potential 4th Amendment issues in your case concerning the search of your room and your person. An attorney can sit down with you, look at the discovery you receive (all the police reports) and determine whether you have a good argument for suppression. In the meantime, this is some good general advice:
1) Do not talk to police or prosecutors. If they reach out to you, say nothing other than "I'd like to speak to an attorney."
2) Get into a drug treatment program. Go to the local health department, get evaluated, and follow their instructions. Whether or not you think you need treatment, the Judge you're in front of is probably going to presume that you're an addict due to your charges and priors. If you can show the prosecutor and Judge that you're seeking help, that's one less reason to lock you up.
3) Are you working? No? Then get a fucking job. Again, full-time work is ANOTHER reason to not lock you up. Can't find a job? Do volunteer work with a not-for-profit organization in your community. Treat it like a job.
4) Get a haircut, shave, and wear a suit to court. Appearance matters. It shouldn't but it does. Deal with it.
5) Bring with you a folder with all the documentation of the above-mentioned. Proof that you're working, in treatment, doing community service, etc. Letters from drug counselors confirming that you're in treatment (when you started, how often you go, when you get urine tested, and so on). Stuff with letterheads, signatures, and phone numbers in case the prosecutor or Judge wants to verify.
6) If possible, bring people who can speak on your behalf. Yes, your parents who narc'd you out may help. If you clean yourself up and impress them enough, they may be able to give a whole "my son has totally changed" song and dance routin…
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So I was pulled over and cited for having a headlight out.
The cop smelled pot so i gave him the weed and pipe.
Spent the night in jail. Now I have court and I believe I might want to fight it. The cop said my headlight was out but the next day I turned it on and it was broken, and smoking but still lit. I feel like it should be considered an unlawful stop and would be thrown out but I dont want to have to deal with major shit for trying to fight it rather than just pleading guilty. I've had a few misdemeanor pot charges that were dropped down in ny and this is my first charge in south dakota.
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Jarvis Blashchidge - Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:57:29 EST ID:aYpMpqpy No.45276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i got caught smoking a j in my local park at night, worst comes to worst is they are going to give you an "acd" adjournment in contemplation of dismissal.

good luck


Just got rekt by police by Ebenezer Soffingway - Mon, 07 Mar 2016 02:19:39 EST ID:hEfaH7id No.45198 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So about an hour ago I got stopped for speeding. The police searched my car and found 2 Vyvanse pillls, 2 Klonopin, a small quantity of weed (under .5 grams) and a bottle of anti-depressants that aren't prescribed to me. Does anyone know how fucked I'm gonna get? I was "arrested" but they didn't take me to jail. The cop said there would be some paperwork coming, and I'd have to appear in court. Does anyone know what kind of charges I'm going to face? I live in Pennsylvania.
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Martin Semmledeck - Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:07:51 EST ID:SlAUIToa No.45248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45247
I think you should mean should have played smart. Like I have had passengers, or somebody drove the car but not exactly sure who it was at any given time. A t times people are dead to rights Crack pipe in the console, panic crack on the floorboards, etc.

Considering there had been a valid prescription in the car that was an anti-depressant would have been a big plus all the way around. Oh well.
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Hamilton Bobberwell - Fri, 15 Apr 2016 04:37:42 EST ID:1tYkwIkZ No.45269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The DA is an attorney. Your public defender is an attorney.

If described, DA has no case, it seems. No case.

There is no case unless you let it.
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Walter Greenman - Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:15:54 EST ID:mY8z3ti5 No.45270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45268
wtf is a summary offense


you will end up in rehab and have to complete it as your plea deadl.

p sure i suggested you start a rehab program a while back.
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John Brunderridge - Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:37:09 EST ID:QJcdANRq No.45271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>45270

A summary offense tends to mean whatever you did was not considered a big deal. It can be dealt with 'summarily' (quickly) by a judge without going to trial or using other lengthy, expensive procedures.

Criminal (aka Indictable) offenses tend to be big deals. Big fines and pound-me-in-the-ass prison,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_offence
https://www.defencelaw.com/classification.html
>Summary conviction offences encompass the most minor offences in the Criminal Code. Examples are "cause disturbance" and "harassing telephone calls."
Another example is 'use of a stolen credit card.' Don't ask me how I know.
>Unless a different penalty is specified, summary conviction offences are punishable by a fine of up to $5,000 or six months' jail or both.
>You cannot be fingerprinted for a summary conviction offence.
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Fanny Fottingwell - Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:34:00 EST ID:QJcdANRq No.45274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45272
That info is for Canadia.

Penn summary offence info: https://clsphila.org/learn-about-issues/dealing-summary-offenses

It's not easy to find 411 on Penn fingerprinting. This page says they will do it for 'retail theft'. So there's an example of a summary offense requiring fingerprinting. Talk to your lawyer to see if you have to do it. That order may have been triggered by your arrest and you might not have to go, but find out for sure.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=39&sctn=29&subsctn=0
>(g) Fingerprinting.--Prior to the commencement of trial or entry of plea of a defendant 16 years of age or older accused of the summary offense of retail theft, the issuing authority shall order the defendant to submit within five days of such order for fingerprinting by the municipal police of the jurisdiction in which the offense allegedly was committed or the State Police. Fingerprints so obtained shall be forwarded immediately to the Pennsylvania State Police for determination as to whether or not the defendant previously has been convicted of the offense of retail theft.


Water bill. by Martha Lightridge - Sun, 03 Apr 2016 07:25:02 EST ID:o7mCmSSp No.45254 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I rent an apartment from my landlord since October.

The terms stated that there is a certain amount of water allotted per month.
He told me that usually the resident doesn't go over the allotted amount,
that in order to do so you would have to be running water non stop.
He said if that ever does happens, then a fee will be charged based on the amount that went over.


So months go by . No problems.

Halfway through February he told me that I had accrued a water utility bill of $150.
He asks has there been water running? I tell him about the toilet which seemed to always be running (I have never experienced this problem before)
He checks it out and says yeah it needs a new flapper.

So I pay the bill and fix the flapper.
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Jarvis Goodspear - Mon, 04 Apr 2016 02:40:06 EST ID:UStIO2Et No.45256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The meter is probably malfunctioning. Or he's jewing you. I blew up a toilet and damaged multiple units and that didn't run near that much in water - it was about 50 gallons.
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Nell Sittinghudge - Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:27:08 EST ID:o7mCmSSp No.45257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45254

We're going to have someone come check the meter.
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Nell Sittinghudge - Mon, 04 Apr 2016 08:33:17 EST ID:o7mCmSSp No.45258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45257
The one grand was over the course of three months. The earlier bill was three hundred but I was asked to only pay half.

he said his water bill before moving in was 0. So six months after I move in I somehow accrue a thirteen hundred dollar water bill. I knew the toilet flush was fucked up but I didn't know it was running water constantly and I said nothing to anyone.

If nothing is wrong with the meter - does that mean I will be fully responsible for the entire bill?
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Faggy Crappertig - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 06:17:11 EST ID:1tYkwIkZ No.45260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45258
I can assure you that your water bill is NOT defined to your apartment.

Fuyck the toilet, it is their responsibility to maintain the apartment.
Charge them for your fixing the leak. Tenants are generally afforded
payment to fix what 'they' are responsible for. Slight but not a huge
mistake is not telling them that you had a leak, but the leak did
no damage, nor would cost anywhere in the 100 dollar range.
If even 20 dollars per month at best.

Have it show the bill. Be direct if you will. I bet the bill is the entire building, maybe minus utilities such as laundry, landscaping. Do now, take pictures of stuffs that you fixed, keep receipts, damage that is wear and tear or was there before. Document stuff.

Look into the management company that owns the property. If there is infractions. Even look towards the management company and see if this person is fit to actually manage an apartment building.


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