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Drug Tests Without Consent by Matilda Clabberhood - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:26:11 EST ID:2ZcpADGo No.45391 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My dad's girlfriend has a terminal brain tumor. She went in to get some blood work done the other day, and they tested her without consent for the DEVIL'S LETTUCE. After it came back positive, she was harassed to the point of breaking down and crying by some Indian doctor who asserted that she is taking illegal medication for her cancer (she's also on some drugs that are believed to cure cancer, and are thus banned in most of the USA). The doctor called back the next day and apologized, presumably for being a brainwashed shill that would rather her pop benzos and opiates instead of vaping weed (no secret that pharma money rules medicine)

My question is, is there any recourse against what this clearly unethical violation of patient autonomy and our constitutional right against unwarranted searches? pic unrelated
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Sophie Worthingridge - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:26:11 EST ID:dzfqUCZS No.45392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>My question is, is there any recourse against what this clearly unethical violation of patient autonomy
It's very likely that she gave blanket consent for the doctor to do harmless things that he thinks might be medically justified, basically permission to do his job. If she complained of things that could be the side effect of recreational drug use or self-medication then he wouldn't necessarily be expected to tell her that a drug panel would be included as part of the blood test. Now where she could sue the shit out of him is if the results of that drug test were ever disclosed.

>and our constitutional right against unwarranted searches?
What's it like being this dumb?
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Fanny Dimblebury - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:38:33 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45392
>she could sue the shit out of him is if the results of that drug test were ever disclosed.

Actually probably not. HIPAA does not contain a private right of action. The doctor can held over the coals by HHS, but you're not seeing a dime of it. There have been some examples lately of negligence cases or IIED cases actually working, but they are the exception, not the rule. In this case, with what the disclosures would be I don't see a colorable civil claim.

HHS-OCR would love to take the doctor's money though if there is a disclosure.
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Cyril Murdville - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:28:08 EST ID:sq7MN2u4 No.45395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45391
>tested her without consent
Doubtful, there's a reason they have you sign a shit ton of paperwork before they start treating you for shit, it gives them the right to do their job without getting a signature for every individual thing. Did she retain a copy or even read the forms before signing?
>constitutional right against unwarranted searches
Lol wut? Is she being treated for cancer by a police officer? That would probably be inadvisable.


Interest in Becoming a Lawyer by Cedric Crushbanks - Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:23:30 EST ID:kIsLJieI No.45385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello. I'm 32 and I have interest in becoming a lawyer, or at least some professional in that field.

My reasons for why? Right now, I'm suspecting that my father is selling family possessions and property that me and my siblings would otherwise inherit to support solely himself, and has given almost all of my dead mother's possessions away to a girlfriend who moved in with him after only knowing him for four months. She even sold her house.

He promised my mother that he'd never remarry, and he all of this and now he is going to.

While I know that not a lot can be done in my own personal case, I still have gained a sense of selfless duty for humanity (one that I would otherwise never have) and I want to make to make sure that it much, much harder for surviving parents to cannibalize the family and the resources of the children just so that they can be solely secure and content.

I know that it can't be perfect, but I can at least improve the lot for some people. I do not want anyone to go through what I went through, ever. Even if I'm wrong about what my father might do, I still want to make sure that it can't happen to others. I've already experienced enough as is.

So, is it worth being a lawyer these days? Do I need to be a lawyer for what I want to do? I do have the interest and the selfless motivation.
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James Fallylit - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:36:37 EST ID:sq7MN2u4 No.45386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45385
Goddamn dude do you have any comprehension of how full of shit you are? You are literally claiming that your inane sense of entitlement to things which were not bequeathed to you has given you a selfless/righteous sense of good and humanity.
Let me save you some time, you either need to do some shit for you without trying to justify it as some moral high ground or do some shit for other people without any expectation of repayment. But for fucks sake man, please stop pretending you give a shit about other people particularly to the point of making a career out of it.
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Cedric Crushbanks - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:13:29 EST ID:kIsLJieI No.45387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>45386

Well, having my mother's car, computers, and anything else of value that she had being just given to the girlfriend is suspicious, if not downright shallow. I told my friends and my therapist about the car thing, and they all thought it was a bit strange and heartless of my father.

Also the fact that all of my mother's pictures have been taken down, and anything else that wasn't of value has "disappeared" and likely thrown away; I actually have a book that I recused from the recycling bin of my town that has my mother's handwriting in it, and I know that it is her book because both her and my father talked about it (he actually showed me the book after the death, when he was still lonely).

There is also the share of the family cabin that my grandfather built that my father sold for no reason, and didn't talk to us about it. Not to mention that I think that he is selling a plot that was inherited to him that belongs to a family farm, established in the 1870s.

It has nothing to do with me. I don't want most of that shit. My siblings could use that, though. My father was a general surgeon, and look at his three kids: I'm on SSI, my brother is working in some factory and isn't even salaried, and while my sister is relatively well off, she entirely depends on her fiance (who she isn't married to, even after seven years) for financial support due to his risky entrepreneurship.

He told a year ago, out of the blue, with perfect calmness, that he didn't feel bad about whatever I accuse him of, because despite what mistakes he made, he did what was best. I talk to people about what my father did, and at first they support him, but when I tell them that part, they no longer do.

I am not entitled. I just want it so that when one parent dies, the surviving parent does not just take everything and then give it to some stranger he never even knew existed before the death, and squander most of the rest on himself.

He wants to take a whole trip by sailboat down the coast of Mexico with his girlfriend. He bought a used sailboat, takes monthly trips to the boat by car (we both in Idaho, so it is a long way), and is fixing up the boat. Not only is that extremely expensive, but it is fucking stupid. There is at least a 50% chance that they are both going to die on that trip, because it is so fucking unsafe. And where is he getting that money?
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Caroline Bazzleson - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:37:46 EST ID:xpMdweAa No.45388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45387
why not go have a conversation with your father.

bro peopel morn in differnt ways. nothing illegal about it.
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Graham Chushhitch - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:59:14 EST ID:QyqGq4gQ No.45389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't actually see why you want to be a lawyer. If all you're bringing to the table is a sense of wanting to help people you're going to have a rough time.


Something should be done. by David Bardham - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:08:30 EST ID:Bgrk6lJA No.45364 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im going to try to make this short and simple, im desperate to know if anything can be done for him and his situation.
Most recently my boyfriend was attempting to come to America from Australia to visit for holiday. He had sorted out his passport, ticket, and had all the documents he needed to enter America... From SYD he had one connecting flight to LAX, then was suppost to board a plane to his destination, NC. Upon arriving to LAX everything was going smoothly until he had to go through customs and deal with Homeland Security... He has epilepsy, whilst going through he began to have a seizure. He hadn't had a fit in a very long time, I suppose he may have been nervous and very excited to finally be in the US to meet me. Anyway, he was attacked by 12 homeland security officers while he was having his fit. They shoved him against a wall injuring his jaw. They were shouting at him while they were almost breaking his arms behind his back. They kept saying he was resisting when he obviously can't help what he does when he seizes. They took him into an interview room where he finally came to after blacking out. They questioned him and treated him like a terrorist. His bags were searched, of course they found nothing. He provided his medical documents to prove he's epileptic, but they didn't seem to care. The paramedics arrived 2 hours after the fact, he didn't need them at this point. He sat in cuffs for 3 hours before he was informed that he was being deported back to Australia on the next available flight. We later found out that they had prematurely canceled his ticket to NC before even interviewing him and finding out what was going on. Plus, they also voided his passport to be able to come to America for no reason. I feel they didn't want to admit that they were in the wrong and they were on some sort of power trip.
He remained in the interview room for more than 10 hours. No food or water was offered, his phone was taken but was aloud one phone call. He called me to tell me the news, we were both very heartbroken. We want justice. But unfortunately I've been told that there probably isn't anything that can be done. Help?
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Hannah Goodson - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:42:50 EST ID:o7XLzhWI No.45365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45364
not a regular advice giver on this board but dayam that sounds bad.

Your bf should talk to a doctor where he is (maybe multiple) and get them to say the way he was treated deplorable and medically dangerous. Then go to the media or some shit, in both countries.
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Jarvis Gabberstud - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:17:54 EST ID:MaaSsAZX No.45369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This sounds like an elaborate ruse to get out of coming to see you. Hope you didn't send him nudes.
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Sophie Clirrydane - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 08:33:34 EST ID:jl36zHSQ No.45372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should have your boyfriend call constitutional tort litigators in the Los Angeles area (I'm sure there are plenty of them) to see if there is potentially what's known as a Bivens claim.

I can't tell you if you have one because it's very fact specific and Bivens is complicated, but it's worth a consult.
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Matilda Gedgebare - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:59:04 EST ID:OmyXdLKz No.45381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sounds like they just wanted to intimidate him. Did he do anything that would piss off the feds?
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Walter Clattingkon - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:55:20 EST ID:T0DoENWs No.45383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>45369


Is it legal to destroy someone's brain on the basis of being too smart? by Hamilton Cheshlock - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:44:34 EST ID:ghTpNazU No.45361 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have to know because even with the best lawyer in the world it's still legal for them to do so. They're trying to reprogram me and forewarning, in the U.S. it might be legal to rewrite people's brains if things don't happen soon.
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Hamilton Cheshlock - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:45:33 EST ID:ghTpNazU No.45362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45361
I hired a lawyer and won against them but they still do it.
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Nathaniel Crellerstin - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:32:24 EST ID:KuRK43u9 No.45373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45361
r u forreal
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Fuck Geckleforth - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:40:36 EST ID:8R+D/l29 No.45374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This was done many decades ago, it was called lobotomy. Not all victims of involuntary lobotomy were mentally ill, some were set up. Knowing too much information, whistle blowing, merely being an inconvenience. Husbands who wanted mild wives instead of strong women. Intelligence.
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Graham Dimmleworth - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:43:31 EST ID:6AFP31TE No.45375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45374
Yep. Lobotomies went out of fashion quickly in the 50s, but not because of some radical shift in moral conduct. Forced sterilization continued along very similar lines in some US states until the 70s and within the last decade over a hundred women in California prisons were sterilized without their consent.


Isn't this shit illegal? by Doris Nickleman - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:59:13 EST ID:guPIq1Wl No.45167 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I called the cops because my crazy ass ex girlfriend broke into my house while I was gone and stole my cash and my medication. Cops came to my door, I tell them situation, they don't do shit about it but follow me inside anyway when they didn't ask if they could come inside and I didn't invite them. Then one of them says he thinks it smells like weed in there, and that they have cause to search my house. Wtf?? Of course he finds my weed and pipes, and I get charged with possession of marijuana & paraphernalia.

What the fuck man, I called the cops because I'm a victim of a fucking crime, and they decide they can make up a probable cause and do a random ass search for whatever they want in my house? Fucking bullshit this has to be illegal. Please tell me I can get a lawyer for this shit.
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Edwin Crisslenurk - Tue, 03 May 2016 21:42:28 EST ID:ZBt7N0X/ No.45302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45167
You learned the hard way that cops can be pieces of shit and you should never let them into your house. This is why people don't trust the police or call them if there is an emergency. It's a shame police officers are more interested in charging the people in front of them with whatever they can find than doing legitimate police work and helping out people seeking help.
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Lillian Nemmleworth - Mon, 23 May 2016 11:31:46 EST ID:Nt9vmn54 No.45337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't ever call the police, OP. If you've gotta talk to them, go to their office, don't let them come to your home. If they do come to your home, don't let them in, and make sure they know they're not allowed in; stand outside the door with them.
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Hamilton Cheshlock - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:57:35 EST ID:ghTpNazU No.45363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45337
What if you tell them they're not allowed here when they're here for a house visit? They say shit like that and they don't leave when there's no reason for them to be here and they ADMIT they aren't there for a reason.
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Emma Dartfuck - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:18:11 EST ID:OCGBuS5C No.45368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Civil rights attorney..4th ammendment. Unless you were on probation or parole with a plea bargain from pleaing Guilty/No Contest and those were your terms. Can vary state to state
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Fanny Duckleham - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:15:23 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the cops were investigating a crime. they needed proof or to at least see how the bitch broke into your house.

Yall niggas dumb as fuck


hiding weed by Cedric Gevingchet - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:12:27 EST ID:ay3CxQLj No.45366 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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oi! i need some advice for hiding my weed when i'm outside. could you guys give me some sneaky ideas?
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Fanny Duckleham - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:56:24 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45366
dont smoke out side if you dont want to get arrested.
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Matilda Gedgebare - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:00:18 EST ID:OmyXdLKz No.45382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Keep it in your portable vape if you have one. Must people think they're E-cigs


Not sure how to feel.. by Hugh Wommerstudge - Mon, 30 May 2016 16:18:58 EST ID:7PYwrzDV No.45349 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Not really sure where to put this so if this isn't the right place I apologize.

So I visited a friend recently that I hadn't seen in about a year. We catch up over the weekend over at his place and I saw that he had a macbook pro, which is new as he's never had one before. So I ask him when he got it and he tells me that he stole it from an administrator's closet at the local public college (not community) when he was exploring one of their departments and noticed that one of the administrator's closets wasn't locked.

Now this irks me because I know that generally art departments are one of the most underfunded departments at schools so he potentially fucked over some teacher's shit. His argument was that a.) it was probably quickly replaced because it's a liberal arts school so there's probably more priority for their arts than at other colleges, and b.) it's likely that liability was probably in the hands of the school's administration since it was an administrator's closet so they would've probably had to replace it quickly since that closet was the administration's jurisdiction, therefore no loss of funding and things carry along probably just fine.

How sound is this logic? Something just doesn't feel right to me about it but since I'm personally not a fan of tuition and debt and generally just the way educational institutions function I'm not necessarily against the idea of stealing from for-profit colleges, but I'm also not down for fucking over underfunded art departments. Anybody work at a college that could give insight into the ethics of this sort of situation?
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Hugh Wommerstudge - Mon, 30 May 2016 16:22:54 EST ID:7PYwrzDV No.45350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here forgot to mention in the first paragraph that it was an art department oops
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Lillian Boggleback - Mon, 30 May 2016 18:25:21 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45350
legally he committed a crime. morally and logistically i have no opinion.


http://www.lojack.com/Laptops
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Shit Dumblemet - Thu, 02 Jun 2016 06:43:37 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>public college
>for profit college

So which is it?
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Jarvis Lightdock - Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:26:54 EST ID:JLUOneXB No.45360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45359

whoops not-for-profit public school. but still.


Clonazolam and Etizolam drug test by Cedric Fuckinglock - Wed, 18 May 2016 17:04:22 EST ID:a/qH4zj+ No.45327 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well I think I fucked myself. I did not think these would show up on a drug test, and I also didn't think the job would go for a 10 panel test, since it's for a shitty warehouse that hires felons and basically people who are hobos.

I went to the hospital or clinic, got tested, and tested positive for Benzos. I DID tell the hiring lady that I had a rX for Benzos from my Dr. (I used to, but not anymore, and I doubt the Dr, would mention that).

I've heard that you can "request it be sent to the lab" for further analysis, and it usually comes back as a false positive. However, would I have had to do that at the clinic? Is it too late? If the hiring lady calls back, can I say I want it to be reevaluated at "the lab", claiming I'm taking Phenibut and GABA to quell my anxiety?

What do? Or did I just fuck myself?
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Barnaby Nendlebick - Fri, 20 May 2016 18:53:54 EST ID:Anc+ndqI No.45333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Typically if you want the re-evaluation it won't come up as false positive because they use legit gas chromatography and oftentimes they charge *you* for it. If your Rx is pretty recent that's your best bet. Just say you were tapering off of them & the last script lasted for some time. If the script was supposed to run out more than a couple months ago you probably fucked yourself.
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William Clazzleway - Sun, 22 May 2016 12:10:40 EST ID:tJcLzVQ3 No.45335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, assuming you acquired pills on the black market, they don't always contain what they are claimed to.
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Ebenezer Sandleridge - Wed, 25 May 2016 03:02:00 EST ID:Q+eYDGG0 No.45342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45327
Quick thought, how long ago was the script for? Likke use before date?
Aside, I bet one could say just took whatever for whatever, no big deal.
Will you hire me or not. Will do the job correctly.
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Priscilla Goodwill - Sun, 29 May 2016 20:38:24 EST ID:wTpxxe7q No.45348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45327
if it's within a year of the script, 'use before date,' do try to leave it at that. If script states for anxiety, sleep, better chance than digging in further with a lab test in my opinion which could show illegally obtaining a benzo. Surely Clonazolam is scheduled by now?


Where does the money from a refund originate on a credit card billing dispute by Nathaniel Bunforth - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:54:13 EST ID:c9lBFWvg No.44709 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys. I have a question about where the money from a refund originates - On the winning side of a billing dispute on a charge listed on my account with my credit card company.

I disputed a charge on my account, through my credit card company. They told me I won, and they sided with me. They refunded the amount back onto my account.

My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant? Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

Or does the credit card company simply give me a refund out of their own pocket as a courtesy for being a customer?

I have always wondered this.
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Basil Fegglecocke - Thu, 19 May 2016 07:37:29 EST ID:f8Fs6quN No.45329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nowhere, there is no money. Just numbers on paper/screens. They either increase the numbers on your bank statement or decrease the numbers on your bill. They do eventually force the merchants to "pay" them, which is why ghetto liquor stores only take debit for alcohol, but this is just in the form of taking the sum out of the next bank transfer to them. If the dispute refund is instant(ish), then it does initially come out of the credit card company's account, else they squeeze the merchant for it first which is increasingly common due to abuse.
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Angus Hubberbanks - Thu, 26 May 2016 23:44:44 EST ID:tyqJISl8 No.45346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant?

yes

>Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

yes the merchant lost those moneys

card companies like american express will ALWAYS side with the card holder

I work at a hotel and we never require signatures at all when guests check in, because of this anyone can charge back on their credit card and claim they didn't stay here.

if you sign something at a retail store and charge back you might have a lawsuit incoming from the place you charged back from if your signature is there


WEED BUST by Angus Fingersure - Sun, 27 Mar 2016 00:44:11 EST ID:qShHsWwO No.45250 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was allegedly caught with a 1/2 pound of High CBD weed and $2500 cash. I was charged with trafficking in Canada. What can i do? My lawyer is off for the weekend and im scared. Its not my first offence but my first of one this bad. Any tips so i stay out of jail? I had a panic attack when i got busted but when the cops with the ambulance i just went with the cops instead and now they said i faked a medical emergency. I need some help guys
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Phineas Blocklekut - Fri, 13 May 2016 05:39:47 EST ID:AnWZNaPF No.45313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45252
Is 2500 like an obscene amount of money to carry around?

I know completely average people who carry anywhere never less than 1k on them to several thousand sometimes. This seems stupid. I know poor people who still run around with 300-500 dollars cash. Even if it is all the money they have.

I honestly laughed when I saw 1/2lb and 2500 as trafficking. Maybe some 14 y/o kid selling at his school. lel
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Lillian Nemmleworth - Mon, 23 May 2016 11:28:11 EST ID:Nt9vmn54 No.45336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45313
Dude, where the fuck do you live?
Around here, only the rich walk around with over 1K in their pockets, and the poor sure as fuck don't have 300$ in their pockets.
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Eugene Bardwill - Mon, 23 May 2016 18:34:27 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45336
>Implying rich people walk around with large amounts of cash

Lol ok, maybe nouveau riche trash. But they are just gagging to give that money back to us. Real money doesn't do insipid shit like that. Carrying cash is for plebs.
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Ebenezer Sandleridge - Wed, 25 May 2016 03:11:38 EST ID:Q+eYDGG0 No.45343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45313
>Is 2500 like an obscene amount of money to carry around?

Should not be. But if any drugs can be found with it, it's as good as gone in some places. The US at a time and today as well, can simply confiscate amounts of cash and deem it drug cash. If parahelenia or drugs are found alongside. Not good.

2500 is somewhat unique, drugs or not pigs have taken peoples moey, jailed them as well. At times a mere few bills found with drugs or paraphenelia the moey is forfeiteted to the county/state by default.
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Sophie Tillingshit - Wed, 25 May 2016 07:25:31 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45343
you explained this kinda shitily so ill do a better job or try too

asset forfiture is the process by which police may sieze assets they believe to be in connection to illegal activity. this can include large sums of money and or objects they say facilitate illegal activity.

for being an unemployed and having 2 grand in small bills screams these funds were obtained illegally, on the other hand being a stripper walking around with a bag of coke and 2k in your pocket doesnt. its all about the circumstances surrounding the situation

you should look into asset forfeiture. its a rather murky topic that has alot of strange stories with it. you'll hear stories used car dealers sending their employees with 20k in cash to the auction, getting stopped and having the assests siezed even with out drugs present. http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/30/the-7-most-egregious-examples-of-civil-asset-forfeiture/


What can the pres actually do? by Cedric Drenningfoot - Thu, 12 May 2016 23:15:28 EST ID:CLAdTZPI No.45311 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /law/ this is a general question rather than a plea for legal advice but this still seemed like the best board. Everyone talks about the President of the US as regards to drug policy, but theoretically if a super pro-pot person got elected then what could they even do? I seem to remember reading that the president gets a direct say in what the Scheduling of specific drugs is but I'm curious if that's the full extent of their power (or even if that's accurate at all) aside from suggesting legislation to congress?
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Shitting Sillyfuck - Fri, 13 May 2016 08:14:23 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Technically all the president can do by himself is withdraw from the handful of treaties that America is a party to that require pot to be illegal.

The power to schedule drugs under the CSA is this convoluted process through the DEA, HHS, and the FDA. I don't know that much about administrative law, but it does seem like a president could motivate these organizations to go his way if he wanted to, or he could find agency heads who would. This determination would be subject to judicial review though under Chevron, which means the court could strike down the finding if it's found to be unreasonable.

So no, it doesn't require legislative action. At least at the federal level, it would require a shit ton of legislation across nearly every state though.
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Frederick Foddleson - Fri, 13 May 2016 11:25:19 EST ID:Anc+ndqI No.45315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I suppose he could technically pardon every offender.
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Polly Blythewater - Fri, 13 May 2016 23:15:54 EST ID:uLJPOHRz No.45316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45315
Presidents can only pardon federal crimes, so he can't really do much for street level dealing or use offenses.
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Molly Blallernure - Thu, 19 May 2016 08:55:46 EST ID:jgu/8HmY No.45330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45316
clinton did for his brother. I think it was for coke though.
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Hedda Pebberfidge - Thu, 19 May 2016 11:26:39 EST ID:JgrhRLWY No.45331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45330
Roger Clinton had federal drug charges, specifically Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, 21 U.S.C. § 846 and Distribution of cocaine, 21 U.S.C. § 841(a)(1), and was convicted in the western district of the federal district court of Arkansas.

Because it was federal Bill could pardon him, he couldn't (and didn't) pardon his cocaine possession or DUI convictions.


What law would I be breaking? by Jarvis Gangerchan - Wed, 18 May 2016 10:04:52 EST ID:d44nGmxv No.45325 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I live in Ohio.
I've noticed the paper used for releasing people like me from probation has a very similar appearance to those the police use to apply for warrants. If I were to put a probation release form in the judge's office mailbox where warrants go, rather than the box for probation forms, what laws would I be breaking? Would playing dumb about where forms go be a good enough excuse? I know every warrant gets signed without ever being read. Whether it would work just seems a matter of the paper ending up back in the probation office.
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Albert Deshkodging - Wed, 18 May 2016 16:58:12 EST ID:lc24Wo5+ No.45326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>45325
I know every warrant gets signed without ever being read. Whether it would work just seems a matter of the paper ending up back in the probation office.



try again.


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