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Sword of Truth Book Club! by Wesley Subberhine - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:43:39 EST ID:vRHUlNNa No.65680 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This thread is dedicated to the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. All relevant posts are welcome!

Wanna talk about Richard and Kahlan? Go for it.
Like discussing the themes and plots of specific books? Me too.
Least/most favorite character? We've all got one.

For those who haven't read the series, it is set in a fantasy world with a scope to (nearly) match the LotR trilogy. The main protagonist is Richard Cypher, a simple woods guide in his home, the Hartland Woods. One day Richard runs into a strange woman dressed in all white who is being hunted by a group of men in armor. His decision to save her life changes his life forever, as well as the lives of countless others.

Also, if anyone has any other similar series to recommend, please share. I'm always looking for more to read.

Discussion Topic #1- What character from the series do you most admire, and why?

I greatly admire all of the Mord-Sith, especially Cara. She has an unbreakable determination in everything she endeavors to do, and unflinching loyalty to her friends, as well as a complete and total lack of mercy to her foes. Yet despite all this, she has a charming sense of humor and a touching- if well hidden- soft side.

Ps- I know the tv spin off was atrocious, so we don't even have to go there. -_-
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Nathaniel Doddleputch - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:14:46 EST ID:Mr6GAfo0 No.65695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65693
>complex characters
Nope. Richard is the goodest goody good guy. The first "grey" characters you'll meet are in the 2nd book, and they're more "we follow these strict rules regardless of the consequences" types.
>Is the plot complex
Not really; it's basically a cheesy action movie, and torture/revenge fantasies.
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Hugh Nendledale - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:24:40 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65695
It sounds like I might not enjoy it, but after reading some of my favorite books and getting into discussions with people, I've found that I disagree with the reviews of others.
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Cyril Crirringhidge - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:16:01 EST ID:vRHUlNNa No.65697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65696

Don't listen to Nathaniel Doddleputch, he obviously doesn't have the required intelligence to appreciate this series.

Every character in the series feels like they could have really existed. You learn of their past, what makes them who they are, and in small pieces that slowly build throughout the series.

Every book reveals a new place- one with it's own unique culture and history. The characters from those places have been shaped not only by the culture surrounding them, but also by their own life experiences. Although some are notably predictable, so are there predictable people in reality. For every twist you see coming, there are countless truths that blindside the reader and tie in long forgotten pasts, sometimes even from previous books in the series.

It is my opinion that the setting of the series is more thoroughly fleshed out than that of the lotr series. There are three thousand years of history and great wars long forgotten that shape the world Richard and Kahlan inhabit, and none of it is thrown in as "filler."

If you have the time to start a new series (this one is currently 12 books long), then I'd highly recommend it.

One word of caution- the series takes several grizzly turns and is never afraid to be brutally violent, but not as a cop out. It is just real violence captured in all its horror to show that the world can be a very dark place. Terry Goodkind doesn't pull punches with the violence, but this isn't about killing for the sake of indulging juvenile fantasies.

The underlying theme of the series (being about the seeker of truth) is one of finding the core truths of the world, not just the made up world, but also truths that apply to reality as well. Goodkind is a master of showing light on the dark lies that permeate this world, and he is especially fond of lies that masquerade as self evident truth. Reason is what he champions, unthinking passion is what he abhors.
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Jarvis Cledgewat - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:25:40 EST ID:Mr6GAfo0 No.65698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65697
Wow. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Wow.
Projecting a bit? "doesn't have the required intelligence" and "dislikes it"?

You have no knowledge of my intelligence, and I never said I disliked the series.

If anyone's opinion is to be disregarded or taken with a bucket of salt, I would say it's the person who results to name-calling and strawmanning to defend his book-boner.

The books are mostly one set of graphic violence after another, and the plot from every book is either "A wizard did it" or "An ANCIENT wizard did it." The most annoying part is the deus ex machina of "prophecy".

Everything is prophecy, everything is foretold. Instead of using this as a teaser, or foreshadowing, or a puzzle for the reader, the author always reveals prophesy AFTER THE FACT. Some shit will happen and then someone will say "OMG YOU COMPLETED THIS PROPHECY THAT I'M JUST MAKING YOU AWARE OF RIGHT NOW".

As a reader, it's just sloppy and annoying. The books I read were well written and engaging, but I had had enough after the 3rd book.

And Richard is a Mary-Sue.
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Caroline Wepperlud - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:06:31 EST ID:IrSQyLJL No.65712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Read The Wheel of Time, OP. You'll love it.


Post your Library. by Martha Godgeway - Sat, 02 Aug 2014 15:31:47 EST ID:GdSbqHqc No.65497 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had more, but since I've moved to another country. I only took what I could.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:49:13 EST ID:FIu+AzFk No.65704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Having spent the better part of 35 years moving about, I learned to keep what was essential or loved, sometimes having to jam a lot of stuff into a small room like the one I've had for 12 years now. Shelving is for books, niknaks, tools, all made by me in this an the next shot.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:51:16 EST ID:FIu+AzFk No.65705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65704
.......continued. Yes, that's chemical glassware and wineglasses below the books. Neon light is something scavenged.
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Lydia Segglechit - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:45:35 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65705
Your keyboard is pro and your business paper is fine. My mom likes to use beakers as vases too.
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Polly Chobberlut - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:51:03 EST ID:bIkKgXy1 No.65709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65705
its that a 7 Eleven cup from the 90's? Jesus, it looks old. Also, I like your shelf.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:15:32 EST ID:FIu+AzFk No.65710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65709
Yes, it's a 7-11 cup from......2003 and it has pine roots in it so's I can someday sprout my Amanita Muscaria spores. Thanks, the shelving is a series of modular wood boxes that I built.


Books Of course, by Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:48:49 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65699 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /LIT/

I am looking for a new book or two to read and hope I can have some suggestions, I'm looking something not exactly story based, maybe Philosophy or Science or ...?

Currently I have read The Wall, Nausea, Being And Nothingness: An Essay On Phenomenological Ontology and Existentialism Is A Humanism all by Sartre and Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig.

Any help would be appreciated.

Picture related: A great place to read.
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Charles Hibberhat - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:06:13 EST ID:QHsLeNMW No.65700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gödel, Escher, Bach
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Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:50:14 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65700

Thank you, this looks very interesting. I think I'll buy a few books while I'm at it, so anything else anyone wants to suggest? I think I'd like to start reading some Kant, good book of his to start with?

Thanks again dudes.
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Betsy Cammlefoot - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:11:57 EST ID:5bIczp3f No.65702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65699
What did you think of Nausea? I read it about a month ago and I don't think I "got" it, but then again I am kind of dense.
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Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:30:27 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65702

Yeah I feel the same way about Nausea, I did really like it, but my problem was that I was reading it intermittently. I'm going to re read it for sure.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:07:41 EST ID:FIu+AzFk No.65706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Gaston Bachelard was a French psychoanalyst who died in 1963. If 'psychoanalysis' makes you think "OMFG NO FREUD!," please know that in Europe some followers of Carl Jung also referred to themselves as analysts. Bachelard is one of these and he seems to take Jung's notion of the Shadow' as one of his starting points. James Hillman is another follower of both Jung and Bachelard. This book, "Water and Dreams," is probably his best; he examines the human psyche's interaction with water by reading selections from Malarme, LaValle and Edgar Allen Poe.


Harry Otter by Jo is ho - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:36:21 EST ID:2grY7rcU No.65674 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If this series is so great then why is it that the longest book in the series is comprised of primarily filler?
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Lydia Mangerchuck - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:32:11 EST ID:59Xmc7LN No.65682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why don't you just read sparknotes then, or not read at all? Your whole life is 'filler'.
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Wesley Brasslehood - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:55:30 EST ID:DLyLSqma No.65683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Book 5 was a turning point for me in the series. I was young when the first 3 came out (my mom read them to me), 4 was one of the first books I read on my own, but 5 felt so much more grown-up. I dunno, what you call filler, I consider real life shit that related to what I was going through as a teenager but also there was magic.

In hindsight, these books are probably not that great, but for people my age (I'm 21), we grew up with the series and it matured as we did. That's a rare thing to have with contemporary literature.
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Simon Dezzleway - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:45:50 EST ID:tV5KTic2 No.65685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>filler
>as an argument for why a book is bad
Herpderp
Anyway the enjoyment of things are subjective; for people growing up along the same age as the characters in the book were, that's a book series like you'll never experience again.
For a 30 year old guy who's bored with his day? Not gonna have the same effect. Maybe he'll find it interesting, idunno.
And no, that doesn't mean people just have nostalgia goggles on
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William Cinkinworth - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:02:27 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65683
I know what you mean. The war has started and the children are thrust into it, becoming members of a rogue organization that must operate in secret, because no one believes there is any real threat yet. It captures the loneliness these people must feel, surrounded by well-meaning fools who would sooner toss them in Azkaban than recognize that they are the difference between life and death for muggles and humans alike. The death of Sirius as well. I feel like it followed the ending of the 4th book very well, when shit began to hit the fan.
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William Cinkinworth - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:06:01 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65688
P.S. I understand that people take issue with JK Rowling and like to tear her to pieces for being a mediocre writer or something, but for me... Harry Potter was really important to my youth. And suddenly JK was writing about serious issues, from book 4 onward it got dark, fast. Some may take issue with her prose, but I applaud her imagination, always. She possibly opened up millions of young readers to books and there is no bad here.


Best books about analytical mind. by Henry Murdfield - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:34:51 EST ID:h/QVJgbl No.65501 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do you know any good books about developing analytical thinking?

I'm off to university next year and want to strengthen my weaknesses and one of those is analytical thinking which I believe I need to perfect in order to succed in the uni and in life aswell.
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Beatrice Ganningwun - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:06:02 EST ID:NVM1SeUe No.65502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like Skerlock Holmes....

I dont know for technical books. If thats even what you mean by analytical thinking.
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Charlotte Drimbleford - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:12:22 EST ID:8f4psBGr No.65519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65502
Days later, noticed typo, literature board, shame
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Ernest Clennerwatch - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:08:02 EST ID:3Y+booPC No.65525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65501
You can get an introductory math proof/analysis textbook. That will teach formal logic. I think it's a great help
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Nicholas Cimblebury - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:06:07 EST ID:5vPzwKxN No.65540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Death Note manga
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Esther Billingworth - Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:58:46 EST ID:F/puVKis No.65662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65540
Yes, and also Liar game manga. It's based of mind games and analytical thinking, you should check it out OP.


Useful words, thesaurus by Clara Dittingchut - Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:48:17 EST ID:xBWnzF7v No.65495 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /lit/. My name is Clara and I'm a wordaholic.

I'm going back to school in a few weeks, can anybody recommend a favorite pocket thesaurus/writers thesaurus to order? Also, would you please share a useful word, along with its operative usage?

I'll start: Postprandial, which means "after a meal"
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Phyllis Fuckingman - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:00:40 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65639
That's not true at all. For instance, if I wanted to call you an idiot, I could also call you a fool, moron, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, etc. Idiot was the word that came to mind immediately, but thanks to the thesaurus I've found a few others that also convey the message that I'm trying to get across very well. I already understood what these words meant, they just didn't come to mind as readily as idiot did.
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Frederick Turveyville - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:06:16 EST ID:avIP/H54 No.65643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65495

>can anybody recommend a favorite pocket thesaurus/writers thesaurus to order?

Nigga plz. Pic related.

Rubenesque - an adjective describing a full-figured/chunky woman. From the name of Peter Paul Rubens, a painter who liked to paint such women in the buff.
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GeorgeColgate !mzphBpEJ0g - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:53:34 EST ID:xlh4g/UJ No.65646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65642

The words that come to your mind instantly are going to sound more natural and more like your own voice than a bunch of obscure synonyms. Plus all those don't really mean the same thing, they've all got different connotations. Calling me a cretin vs calling me a fool having different tones and connotations. You should trust yourself when writing. If it's not something you'd normally say or think you shouldn't be putting it in your work.
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Emma Brookhall - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:05:29 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65646
I'm not a writer, but I'd imagine it would be nearly impossible to create believable characters if they all sounded exactly like the author.
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Nicholas Sobblemone - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:29:16 EST ID:qUHNWyWy No.65657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65643
Oh, Reuben


I want to write by Lydia Paddlebot - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:09:40 EST ID:mj+lJU1J No.65504 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/lit/ i want to write. i've been working on a science fiction story for a while now; hashing out the characters and the plot, thinking about the world. i've got one chapter written so far, and i think it needs quite a bit of revision. i'd really like to make this a real thing and not some daydream in my head, but it's hard to get things rolling.

also, i've had an interesting life so far; i've been to quite a few places including Iraq and my trip to Europe was interesting, to say the least. toward the end of my trip, i ran into some American tourists in Germany who said i should write a book about my experiences. should i just talk about the Europe trip? should i at least mention some of my other adventures? would people even want to read the memoirs of a high school dropout from Ohio turned peacekeeper in the closing days of Bush and Obama's oil war who spent his savings on a half baked European adventure?

i'm pretty disorganized and un focused in general. on top of that, i've read a number of novels and other books, but i'm not exactly a bookworm. i feel like there are things that great authors do that i'm not aware of.

tl;dr, i want to write them books good, but don't know how to really get things going.
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Frederick Turveyville - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:24:19 EST ID:avIP/H54 No.65644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65504

>toward the end of my trip, i ran into some American tourists in Germany who said i should write a book about my experiences. should i just talk about the Europe trip? should i at least mention some of my other adventures? would people even want to read the memoirs of a high school dropout from Ohio turned peacekeeper in the closing days of Bush oil war who spent his savings on a half baked European adventure?

Unless there was something unique about your experiences or you can put a unique spin on them, don't bother. Plenty of people have backpacked Europe and there are plenty of Iraq/Afghanistan memoirs already.

Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Things_They_Carried (the actual book, not the wiki article I just linked) to get an example of a unique voice. He writes about Vietnam.

You can start with a novel if you like, but short stories are better for practice. Writing short stories will allow you to work on the fundamental techniques of fiction like voice and character development without having to worry about the "logistics" of a novel just yet. Some of the world's best and best-known novelists started out as or were also known as short story writers. Joyce comes to mind.

Short stories are pretty important in science fiction and often serve as a basis for developing ideas that wind up finding their full expression in novel form.

If you're not familiar with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year's_Best_Science_Fiction series of anthologies, check out the most recent few years from your public library (public libraries usually have this series) and start reading. There's some truly stunning work in there.

Good luck.
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GeorgeColgate !mzphBpEJ0g - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:46:42 EST ID:xlh4g/UJ No.65645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65583

I love dat soap
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Hedda Sudgestone - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:48:43 EST ID:W4zEZje8 No.65650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65576
This. I scrapped my old material and went back to the drawing board after I actually read the 200 pages I had written.
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Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:35:33 EST ID:Bg4/cz/T No.65654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65576
" Accomplished artists in any field
don't like to tell beginners that their
work will suck at the start"


you kidding me? all they ever say to new writers is that they'll suck at first, the first draft will suck, the last draft will still suck, and so on.

although they have to because everyone thinks they are king.
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Clara Peblingchork - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:43:48 EST ID:FI+ylxxC No.65660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65654
Its a good thing to say, it seems, so it is said. Doesnt mean it is an enjoyable thing to say.


Barnes and noble run by James Nombleforth - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:16:03 EST ID:RQlghkrz No.65584 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Mind opening books easily found at Barnes and noble


So I'm hitting up the b&n later, and I wanna know how /lit/ is going to change the impression of my thoughts?

Doesn't have to be mind opening, just interesting or knowledgable
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Graham Crunnerwell - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:36 EST ID:qUHNWyWy No.65588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You've probably already gone, but I found Walden immensely enjoyable.
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Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:16:18 EST ID:WLS4IFLU No.65589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
try some Emmanuel Kant?
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Lillian Gallerhadging - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:18:35 EST ID:LFueBpla No.65590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65588
>>65589
already did go good gents, but thanks for the info ill read up on em next time
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Archie Grimford - Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:02:37 EST ID:3qp6Vr39 No.65594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65589
That's a really good and boring suggestion. I'm currently rereading the trascendental deduction, it's a fucking tough read.

OP if you read Kant you should read Groundwork for the Metaphysic of Morals, and then read Dostoievski's Crime and Punishment. That oughta give you a couple months of fun, and something to think about.
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Jarvis Grimfoot - Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:55:46 EST ID:277NVQ0Q No.65616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65589
Nah. First, Hume. Then Kant.


Let's go back 3000 years because those people were awesome by Lillian Fezzlehood - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 05:05:18 EST ID:VbaMucOJ No.65544 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's accepted that Homer didn't conceive the Iliad and the Odyssey. He was a bard himself and took the trouble to write the songs into two coherent stories.
After reading "Moonwalking with Einstein: The Art and Science of Remembering Everything" i now understand how the bards were able to remember humongous amount of text; The method of loci https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci A friend of the writer has learned Paradise Lost and is learning Shakespeare's works using that method.

We'd consider those people with the correct technique to remember things on the same level of weirdness as those being able to solve a Rubik's cube under twenty seconds. Yet the Romans considered it as an elementary art if you want to be a better person; learning by heart made it easier to extract wisdom from the text.

Reading erryday is certainly beneficial, for two reasons:
  • Doing something consistent will make you realise that consistency in general is a good thing
  • You'll understand the world around you better

So why not take it to the next level?
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Lillian Fezzlehood - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 07:25:07 EST ID:VbaMucOJ No.65546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65545
I stopped cubing long ago, I wasn't able to get sub-20. The book shows the importance of deliberate practice to improve. My 'training' moments were weak because deep down i felt content with being under 30 seconds.
That aside, since reading that book i'm able to solve the cube blindfolded. (back in the day they taught Pochmann, but not how to remember the target stickers)
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Emma Debberwig - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 08:06:34 EST ID:Wlu/fmm0 No.65547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65546
Sounds really interesting. I cubed a shitload of different puzzles but never learned blindfolded. But aside from cubing, which was my main hobby like 3 years ago, my big passion now is competitive gaming (Super Smash Bros. Melee). So that'll be really interesting to hear some insight on consistency and deliberate practice because that's very much what the game is about.
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Jarvis Pocklock - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:41:49 EST ID:XvtNcvr5 No.65553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65547
Wow, I'm a quarter way through the book and it's mind-blowing how many similarities it has to the last book I just read, Blink by Malcom Gladwell. The parts about chicken sexers and the police officers, and the study of intuition and expertise. I'm really enjoying it. Thanks again, anon!
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Charlotte Blagglebet - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 13:50:16 EST ID:ROqVGUne No.65585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Now trying to remember my first poem. I liked the poem because it was about taking a shower. Who doesn't love a good shower. But i couldn't understand fuck of it.
After having looked up the definition of poetry and finding a second candidate poem, there was the sudden realisation that i have set upon my poetry journey. >mfw
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Charlotte Blagglebet - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:14:17 EST ID:ROqVGUne No.65587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65585
btw, this passage is about the method of loci. One of the first books which was able to be preserved. http://www.utexas.edu/research/memoria/Ad_Herennium_Passages.html
nb


Post, get feedback thread by fileserv !p7z1qDjQIQ - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 02:51:27 EST ID:EzOOvk4+ No.65499 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I shall start, intro to something I'm writing.

Above: half a universe, maybe more. Below: same thing, except much more immediately. Soft. My knuckles rapped as they rewrote the jawline of who, I could no longer tell. Falling, cought by a ring of human flipboards pushing it back into the fray. Chef, I was a chef, and this was my restaurant. Blood stripped the harsh concrete floors. I asked the pain how I was doing. He’s an excellent critic. Keeled, my knee connected with his jaw. He lunged up, blood rushing from his face, but quickly fell back to the floor. My foot pressed down on his ear. No pity. He had no use for his mouth. Excessive slang. Not that I was any better. The slim moved to collect. Basking in what they had left of the collective image of dominance, boasted from the broken mouth of the collected. I shook myself off, flopping onto one of Dom's couch collection. Dom was a freak. “I walked around with petrified wood all the time on the shit I do. I fucked my Dealer for like 4 hours straight. I mean straight!” he had once told me. He was currently moping the floor, humming a tune that lulled me into the dawn.
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Mon, 04 Aug 2014 04:48:35 EST ID:YSZT+AAb No.65513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65508
should have him eat the vom like my bro did once
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Samuel Wannerpere - Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:16:57 EST ID:eV7+dFYz No.65516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65512
It's not so much that I hate it as it is I just cannot possibly see it as "writing" and therefore cannot offer critique. (Other than "Stop using first-person)
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fileserv !p7z1qDjQIQ - Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:23:48 EST ID:EzOOvk4+ No.65517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65516
How do you not see it as writing? Not being combative, just really interested.
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Samuel Wannerpere - Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:27:17 EST ID:eV7+dFYz No.65518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65517
Because it's more like a transcript of an interview. It's something you're meant to hear, not see.
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Shitting Nebberhall - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:24:33 EST ID:qramfFCj No.65522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Edgy/10, OP
Jimmy/10, fanny


Ape & Essence by Ben Zolpidem - Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:39:36 EST ID:Y7ynyxcx No.65455 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Thinking about reading Ape & Essence by Huxley. Anyone read it?
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Walter Blatherwell - Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:25:30 EST ID:/9RDsOVV No.65456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
More like APE & INNOCENCE, am I right? A story about a girl who gets lost in the Amazonian jungle and is kidnapped by a group of horny gorillas. "Will they, or won't they rape her?" - the whole book is just building up toward the climax and I don't want to spoil it for you, but they engage in consensual sex five pages before the ending. Her husband is an astronaut who owns an airplane and he tracks her with GPS and finds her in bed with the alpha gorilla and instead of being shocked and appalled, he takes off his space suit and reveals that HE had been a gorilla all along and now her attraction toward the gang of gorillas makes sense and she's not a dirty whore.

idk, im kinda high
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Nathaniel Billingstock - Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:49:00 EST ID:MBgg1myW No.65477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65456
RAPE & INNOCENCE
AM I RIGHT
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Doc Venture - Sat, 02 Aug 2014 02:30:37 EST ID:fbIr5r7R No.65489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a good book. I liked it. I consider it part of Huxley's trilogy of ideas novels. The others being Island and Brave New World which are also good (although Island is pretty preachy).

Huxley is just writes really well. I'm reading another book of his at the moment called 'Point Counter Point' and if it weren't for how well it was written I would have stopped reading it a long time ago.

It gets off to a bit of a slow start when you finally get to the script but it picks up.
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Angus Nugglelock - Sat, 02 Aug 2014 04:00:02 EST ID:BbIDdBQ2 No.65492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
found it a bit too cinematic, very pop-culture,

It creates some interesting imagery, especially towards the end.

An easy read.


Getting Tangled In A Character by Basil Sungerdere - Fri, 25 Jul 2014 09:03:45 EST ID:cieK2KtV No.65439 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok so I can cut to the chase I am currently reading The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and am 2/3 of the way through, so please respect this and do not spoil it for me.

Anyway my point of this thread is that I have NEVER seen myself in such a way in a character portrayed in a book as I do in Toru Okada, that is to say before the time he receives the mark on his face and most of the incidents after that.

He is so much like me it is uncanny, he appears normal, not above average or below, but there are weird traits about him and he does weird things. He loves his solitude, he thinks in a similar way to I, his relationship with his wife is somewhat similar to my GF but she has not cheated, I am somewhat passive as he is and seem to have these women around me as friends etc that cause issues. it is very strange and I guess you would have needed to have read the book to understand, but like I said I am not finished.

I do not know how to use spoiler code but I am at the part where he has purchased the plot and using the well with his bat, he has changed a lot mentally and physically, but before that he was like a Japanese copy of me. I work from home so I often just amble around the house toying with ideas and things alone, such in the way his thought processes seem to work. Only he is unemployed.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, great book so far, have any of you felt such a connection to a character in a novel before? Pic unrelated..
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William Hibblehed - Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:01:07 EST ID:aQnoapzQ No.65447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65446
how's it going dude?
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Augustus Blackbury - Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:33:08 EST ID:9ChiPaf5 No.65449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65447
not good but hey shit happens, nothing to do with my girlfriend that is fine. And this is no lie either, the past couple of days I have heard outside the front of my house a creature making a creaking noise now and again, exactly like in this book, I mean wtf seriously. Coincidences everywhere. I have never heard it before and no I am not just noticing it now because I am subconsciously searching for it, it is a totally alien sound within nature to me, exactly like a creaking or wind up spring. Shits getting weird.
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Caroline Bravingforth - Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:03:05 EST ID:RvXixBmt No.65484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So finished the book and it was a great read I must admit, but I was kind of disappointed with the ending, anybody else feel that way? Some parts of the plot were ultra predictable but others were not and threw me totally.

>8.5/10 would read again
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Phyllis Mammerpodging - Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:29:39 EST ID:MBgg1myW No.65485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65484
I think that I have felt this way before about a book, but strangely I can't remember specifically. Probably because it wasn't the main character I identified with. But I know the strong feeling that accompanies recognizing a conspicuous amount of your own traits and personal quirks in a fictional character. I even found myself feeling the same resolutions the character felt, like if he got over a problem, I thought "Damn, what if this is what I need to do, too?"

So, cherish this feeling, this strong connection with a story. It may not happen again for a while and you're lucky to experience it. =)
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Archie Clayfield - Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:49:28 EST ID:dUeRZlzU No.65486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm finally reading War and Peace and I feel similarly about Pierre. Lack of interest in practical things, head in the clouds, nagging thoughts about the futility of everything...never seen a character like this before. Tolstoy is great.


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