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Active LIteracy by Archie Clebberville - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:17:06 EST ID:7HwCHMKh No.61308 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone every heard of this term to describe the ability to publicly speak well and write well? I came across it in a lecture by John Taylor Gatto and it got me thinking.

I read a whole bunch and fantasize (like many people) about writing my magnum opus. What Gatto suggested, is that to become a good writer (or speaker) you have to practice regularly, preferably everyday.

So I thought I would take up such a curriculum and try to write a little something every day. But I run into a roadblock when I think about what to write about. I'm not trying to begin some epic novel, just start with small blurbs even would be a good jumping off point.

So my question is, does anyone else use this method of practicing writing? If so (or regardless) what are some pointers you may give me? Especially concerning what to write about and how to self evaluate my work
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Martha Sadgesut - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:21:32 EST ID:jPYBu/Ov No.61309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61308
Debate class.
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Reuben Fumbleteck - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:09:01 EST ID:v/awAl1b No.61310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61308
Start with a random word out of the dictionary and try and work it into a starting sentence and just keep writing from there.
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Eliza Moggleware - Wed, 01 May 2013 06:41:03 EST ID:SI15wPQs No.61313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61308
I talk to myself. A lot. And I sometimes pretend I'm a narrator, but mostly I just first person describe everything and everyone. It's better the more emotional the thing is. Also, I argue a lot. It helps me think.
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Graham Cheddlewill - Tue, 07 May 2013 01:23:11 EST ID:QE4QQHNk No.61387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61308
I'm pretty much where you are know except I'm writing more frequently. Just right about anything that you see in your immediate vicinity, then criticize it or glorify it. This is good practice. Also, look out your window and look for the meaning of things and the wisdom of its creation, and its purpose, then write that on paper.


criticise this please xoxoxox by Jack Billingcocke - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:01:15 EST ID:mkEwexnH No.61307 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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dont mind the weather, just love the sky
because my friend, we're human you and I.
We share a comminality, in the vastness of this space
I want to learn about your culture
I want to learn and respect your faith

I disregard the concept of race
as races only happen with motorcars

I gaze at the sky in wonderment
at the beauty of this world, as it chooses to express itself
in so many ways, it never ceases to amaze;
the diversity of brothers akin.

It's only a matter of days
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Eliza Moggleware - Wed, 01 May 2013 06:42:53 EST ID:SI15wPQs No.61314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know why, but all I can think about is how good your poetry will be when you lose everything you hold dear.
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Ernest Grimlock - Wed, 01 May 2013 08:39:32 EST ID:DIiQni8x No.61317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61307
It's good op but to me it's also cheesy as hell, especially "I disregard the concept of race
as races only happen with motorcars"

I can imagine 16 yearold girls listening to it and it's written by some boy band.

It's good and I can see where it could be coming from, I just happen to see it as not deep enough and just on the surface of a happy little ditty.
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Emma Wevingman - Wed, 01 May 2013 12:46:38 EST ID:mkEwexnH No.61324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61314
elaborate on that my comrade
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Graham Cheddlewill - Tue, 07 May 2013 01:16:35 EST ID:QE4QQHNk No.61386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61307
Go deeper. Also show the ugliness of the world and then argue why the world is more good than bad , I think that would engage the reader. You should be careful not to be cliché or cheesy


Weird sentence fragments that you sometimes think of. by Sophie Doddleridge - Mon, 08 Apr 2013 04:54:22 EST ID:r5w8es8i No.61112 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A den of cabbages.
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Clara Drenderfudging - Fri, 03 May 2013 11:29:12 EST ID:qnBiK5dt No.61344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If I had an orchard, I'd work 'til I'm sore.
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John Pizzleshaw - Sat, 04 May 2013 05:20:12 EST ID:s2e8QAki No.61348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A twisted grape master
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Edwin Gimmleman - Mon, 06 May 2013 22:23:19 EST ID:FGRgtgM8 No.61381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61344

fleet foxes!
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Isabella Hummlewark - Tue, 07 May 2013 00:26:02 EST ID:qnBiK5dt No.61383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61381
Yes! Popped into my head when I was planting my garden. I haven't been able to get it out since!
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Graham Cheddlewill - Tue, 07 May 2013 01:03:45 EST ID:QE4QQHNk No.61384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"I was bathing myself in sperm" - Moby Dick


Compulsion to define words by Whitey Fondlelack - Wed, 01 May 2013 23:58:31 EST ID:cgAI0X8c No.61330 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone else ever experienced a compulsion to write down words that they're reading to later look up their definitions? This happened to me when I started reading The Complete Fiction of HP Lovecraft, and I would just write down a few words here and there that were new to me so that I could look up the meaning later on.

Now it's as if I need to be sure of every single word's definition before I can enjoy a piece. I write down lots of words. I know the definition of a word, but then in some sort of spastic freakout I confuse myself or second guess myself on the definition. I then say to myself, "well, I better look it up just to be sure.." and it turns out I was correct after all. I read about 100 pages today, and ended up writing down about 50 words. I just HAVE to know the definition of every word to feel like I'm reading an excerpt how it was meant to be read, but sometimes this is a hindrance because writing down the word takes away my reading time.

I was just curious if anyone else has ever experienced something like this..
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Whitey Grimham - Thu, 02 May 2013 04:50:04 EST ID:b3leEenZ No.61332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Happens all the time with me when reading Thomas Pynchon or David Foster Wallace. I'm not a native English speaker and sometimes I have no idea what a certain word means and it's difficult to understand by the context it's being used.
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Phyllis Goodman - Thu, 02 May 2013 09:46:50 EST ID:Oc+E4Kr6 No.61334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do this too. I suspect that much of the reason my Kindle is crashing repeatedly is that I have hundreds of words marked to write down later, from when I didn't have a notebook handy.
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Clara Drenderfudging - Fri, 03 May 2013 11:31:49 EST ID:qnBiK5dt No.61345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I also do this. I wrote down A LOT of words while reading House of Leaves.
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Sophie Sattingded - Fri, 03 May 2013 12:58:38 EST ID:pDZIy2Mw No.61346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sometimes most of the time I'll look it up there and then, it seems to happen an absurd amount of times with HP lovecraft- it's very handy to have an annotated version as well, because he makes so many obscure references.
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Schmertz - Mon, 06 May 2013 00:46:14 EST ID:Uxd59cJu No.61367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You are so cool! I do not suppose I have read a single thing like that before. So great to find someone with genuine thoughts on this subject matter. Really.. many thanks for starting this up. This site is something that's needed on the internet, someone with a bit of originality! Schmertz http://jaydeesplace.jimdo.com/


philosophy books by Ebenezer Mammermut - Sat, 04 May 2013 15:23:02 EST ID:/nPrJJXJ No.61352 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So im new to philosophy and I want to have a little read of this subject to see if im really interested,bt where should I start ?

I was thinking about starting and reading up properly on nihilism as that seems to be my sort of view point on life.

nihilism and Solipsism is actually what makes me want to learn more about philosophy.
I have had these thoughts (or what I think are these thoughts ) for a long long time.

I googled about and found out my thoughts actually had names and I wasn't the only weirdo who thought like this,

So what would you guys suggest I look into ?I have a kindle so what book would you recommend I start of with first ? IS there any books there what talk about a variety of different things so I can get a genral understanding of the whole thing.

Correct me if im wrong but why isnt there any big female philosophers,especially in the ancient greek times when plato and that where around.

IS that just because back then people didnt pay attention to what woment think ?
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Martha Goodfield - Sat, 04 May 2013 19:11:05 EST ID:444VtGdB No.61356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should pick up intro books to logic, philosophy, metaphysics, and ethics. Focusing on a particular doctrine will just make you doctrinal. Banish ignorance rather than just telling it to move over.
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James Doppersick - Sun, 05 May 2013 06:50:20 EST ID:/nPrJJXJ No.61358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61356
Any suggestions for them sort of books ?
preferabley ones what I will be able to find in mobi format for my kindle
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Sidney Trotford - Sun, 05 May 2013 10:47:41 EST ID:kiLfcBCD No.61359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61352
The Problems of Philosophy by Bertrand Russell is a good book to test the waters with. It deals mainly with some common epistemological and metaphysical problems, how other philosophers have approached them, and some critiques/commentaries on attempted solutions. A good introduction about what philosophy is about and the standard method of doing it. The book is also in the public domain and can be downloaded from gutenberg.org.
Sophie's World by Jostein Gaardner is another popular introduction. It's a young adult novel that explains the major portions of the history of philosophy and introduces philosophical thinking. I don't remember whether or not the story is any good, unfortunately.
I would also recommend looking around the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy to see if anything catches your eye. They're both free, peer-reviewed, and most articles have bibliographies. The problem with general introductions to philosophy, like the two books above, is that there's no room to go beyond the basic repertoire of philosophical giants; Descartes, Berkeley, Kant, etc. Neither book, to my knowledge, mentions philosophy of religion, science, law, or language, for example. Links:
http://plato.stanford.edu/
http://www.iep.utm.edu/
Once you have a general idea of what sorts of topics interest you, then I'd try to find intro books. E.g., you mentioned that solipsism interests you, so you may want to get a book on philosophy of mind. I'm not sure that every introduction will mention solipsism, but the idea is closely related to Cartesian skepticism and the problem of other minds, which is a common thing in philosophy of mind. My introduction to the subject was "Philosophy of Mind (A Beginner's Guide)" by Edward Feser, but I'm not sure how it compares to others.

If you find that you like philosophy, make sure to pick up some introductory logic and critical thinking books. Logic is the foundation of philosophical inquiry.
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Whitey Nemblestock - Sun, 05 May 2013 13:02:27 EST ID:K8dIIWoY No.61360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Zen Mind, Beginners Mind.

No bickering over whether it's philosophy or not, it's good.
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Beatrice Samblewut - Sun, 05 May 2013 21:08:59 EST ID:J8HKB7Gd No.61365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61352
Women were treated kind of like animals in Ancient Greece. Aristotle compares them to things one owned, like slaves. Epicurus taught women and slaves though, you may enjoy reading him, he was an hedonist and had an interesting (sort of)chaotic conception the world.

I wonder why do we all start reading philosophy because of nihilism and existentialism? It makes me feel like such a stereotype, it's cool though, better to start from there than to not start at all right?. Try reading some Dostoievski, he writes novels so it's a lot easier to understand, don't waste your time on Nietzsche, it takes some time to get something out of him. I'd suggest Memories from the underground, which is really short and has a really philosophical first chapter, or if you're up to the challenge you could try reading "The demons" (it's like 1000 pages long, don't start it if you don't plan on finishing it).

You should listen to what the others guys said though, read a little bit of everything, there are some really interesting philosophers out there. Plato, Descartes, Kant, Marx, Nietzsche, Sartre are just some of the classics. You should also read Hume, he may give some sort of answer to your solipsism (guy was a skeptic)


Searching for a list of books by Nigger Blacklewire - Sat, 04 May 2013 09:03:33 EST ID:ctPwlMdQ No.61349 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /lit/, I saw a list of drug related books once on 420chan once. It had shrooms (for books about psychedelics), pills (for books about stims) etc...
I also remember a scanner darkly and fear and loathing, but thats about it.
I'd be grateful if anyone has this picture and would post it in this thread
thanks in advance.
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Nigger Blacklewire - Sat, 04 May 2013 09:06:15 EST ID:ctPwlMdQ No.61350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just remembered that Naked Lunch and Trainspotting were on it aswell :)
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Graham Finningpore - Sat, 04 May 2013 14:20:53 EST ID:3kglBjiw No.61351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61349
glue
acid house
secret recipe of the master chef
filth
crime
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Phoebe Brerryforth - Sat, 04 May 2013 16:06:26 EST ID:Sjt/uZLo No.61353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61349
It's from the future's recommended reading
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Nigger Blacklewire - Sat, 04 May 2013 16:25:34 EST ID:ctPwlMdQ No.61354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61353
Thank you very much kind sir.
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Faggy Nicklestock - Sun, 05 May 2013 15:40:08 EST ID:Ai+g4xWc No.61361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61353

Hm... I see "Less Than Zero" but why no "American Psycho"?


TAR 25 released! by Sophie Fattingstitch - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:38:24 EST ID:Ai+g4xWc No.61043 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guys!

Just dropping by to send around the latest release of TAR.

theaprilreader.wordpress.com

The award winner for Issue 25 was Donald Borenstein's "Our Far Flung Correspondent," so it's worth checking out. Temperature by Francis Hume was also a personal favorite of mine.

Enjoy the spring!
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Faggy Nicklestock - Sat, 04 May 2013 23:30:42 EST ID:Ai+g4xWc No.61357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61043
May is here; and here is the TAR issue!

Our award winner this month was Logan Ellison's "A Likely Visit."

"Too Late, Buddha" was pretty good too.

Enjoy!


Looking for a book by Nigel Smallshaw - Thu, 02 May 2013 07:16:20 EST ID:5AW6Ao2c No.61333 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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HARRISON, Jane Ellen. Themis; A Study of the Social Origins of Greek Religion. Cambridge: University Press, 1912.

Please help me, Based /lit/
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Matilda Cruvingsare - Thu, 02 May 2013 10:50:45 EST ID:kiLfcBCD No.61335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://archive.org/details/themisstudyofsoc00harr

Google is your friend.
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Cornelius Hozzlepore - Thu, 02 May 2013 20:34:27 EST ID:QpIZRHRD No.61340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61335
You and Google have my undying gratitude.
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Thomas Clendermore - Fri, 03 May 2013 08:09:25 EST ID:b3leEenZ No.61342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you know Web of Knowledge? Your university probably has a connection to it, use it and download all the articles you want, there's no need for google or asking /lit/...


Authors like Haruki Murakami by mivanx77 - Mon, 29 Apr 2013 23:53:52 EST ID:VbWURZcZ No.61300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been reading a lot of Haruki Murakami and I really enjoy his surrealism that he applies throughout his books. What are some other authors that evoke the same feeling as Murakami in terms of life and your place in the universe?
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Ian Nipperkeck - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:37:42 EST ID:1BvVH4xH No.61312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61304
>>61311
everyone's a little queer
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Nathaniel Gebberham - Wed, 01 May 2013 08:18:45 EST ID:b3leEenZ No.61315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Boris Vian, "The Autumn in Peking". Very surrealist/absurdist, it's has nothing to do with Autumn or Peking (Beijing) and it's very good. I just don't know if there are english translations of the book...
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Henry Porrykeck - Thu, 02 May 2013 15:59:50 EST ID:MLfXGVMB No.61338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>61303
OP Here.

I've heard of Kurt Vonnegut and his works, gonna check it out and see what his writing's about!
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Thomas Shakehood - Fri, 10 May 2013 20:11:01 EST ID:lgEVlNxK No.61467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ryu Murakami has some great books
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Hugh Gimmersure - Fri, 10 May 2013 23:25:23 EST ID:1o34NRGN No.61472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
to s suggest some more Japanese authors:

banana yoshimoto
beautiful use of language.

natsuo kirinho
fascinating description of modern Japanese culture.


Should I continue this? by Edwin Hishbury - Wed, 01 May 2013 10:04:06 EST ID:s2e8QAki No.61318 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been sitting here bored out of my mind, and came across an oldish blogspot I had.
Essentially, I wanted to have it as a place to dump short stories, but I turned it into 'SyndicateTelevision.' I'd update it with short stories written as if watching various programs/channels on the SyndicateTV network, they'd be short sci-fi stories that all fit into one canon, or universe, I guess. I dunno if I should just drap it or continue with it, so I wanna see what people think of it;
http://syndicatetelevision.blogspot.co.uk/
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George Sonnerbury - Wed, 01 May 2013 11:17:57 EST ID:5NzpYzHY No.61319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you've posted this after your most recent update. Continue it.
I don't remember really enjoying it, but you aren't going to get any better if you stop writing.
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Edwin Hishbury - Wed, 01 May 2013 11:52:29 EST ID:s2e8QAki No.61320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61319
>you've posted this after your most recent update.

Well, I was hardly gonna go back in time and post this after my first update.

>but you aren't going to get any better if you stop writing.

Well, I'm never gonna stop writing, I was just wondering if I should continue with this specific project.
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Emma Wevingman - Wed, 01 May 2013 12:50:01 EST ID:mkEwexnH No.61325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61320
you ight as well continue...


Wololo by Angus Cirrywick - Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:06:41 EST ID:FAfyl8Ni No.60606 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey there could any /his/fags on here recommend the best books about the following subjects.

> Bronze age Aegean civilizations.
> The best Hellenistic religion reference book.
> Macedonian empire.
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Angus Cirrywick - Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:07:57 EST ID:FAfyl8Ni No.60607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In retrospect this actually probably belongs on /his/
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Henry Bardshit - Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:13:43 EST ID:NShxGwQp No.60617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The greeks by hdf Kitto he also wrote a book about the Greek tragic plays
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David Drumblegold - Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:09:09 EST ID:9ZenspvY No.61301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
50 shades of Aegean


ebooks by Green - Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:40:26 EST ID:SI15wPQs No.61288 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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There's just a minor bit of advertising going on here, but my friend set up this website to share ebooks and he has a CRAP load (not kidding) of classical literature on it. I'm talking everything from Godel Escher Bach to William Faulker.
And I was just wondering if any /lit/izens have time to scroll down to the comments section and suggest some authors and books.
>PS many of the books aren't on the page, but they're searchable. Try typing - into the search bar.

killthebook . org
>pic unrelated

Also, ebooks general. What formats, do you use a physical ebook reader, why do you use them, etc.
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Molly Gumbletud - Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:53:45 EST ID:v/awAl1b No.61293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61288
Are the books on the front page all that're available on that site?
Doesn't seem like a hell of a lot to me.
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Molly Gumbletud - Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:54:19 EST ID:v/awAl1b No.61294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61293
Nvm, I'm retarded and reviewed the original post.
Nb my mistake.
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Ernest Grimlock - Wed, 01 May 2013 08:36:07 EST ID:DIiQni8x No.61316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>61288
I gave him some op. nb


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