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Literature Equivalent of Popular Musicians by Isabella Bleblingbock - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:02:37 EST ID:xoxhlBdF No.67185 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Tom Waits
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Jarvis Blongerville - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 23:31:35 EST ID:JHSbXgM+ No.67228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
any 14 year old's tumblr page
Reuben Trotman - Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:50:54 EST ID:qHED85LH No.67234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Charles Dimmleworth - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:50:56 EST ID:Yce2bYDc No.67240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Basil Pezzledudging - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:21:07 EST ID:ifwUYo+E No.67241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Songs Ohia - Farewell Transmission
Man I forgot the dude name, hes one guy who rights. Hes kinda like Tom in a way
Cant think of much else idk
the mountain goats is just one guy, he is awesome just him and his geetuire.
Simon Wibberfuck - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:40:28 EST ID:dD5BAUEZ No.67243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i like it

Faces and Places by Mustapha Mond - Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:25:52 EST ID:e8INrhRn No.67203 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you imagine characters and places while you read ? Sometimes I imagine an actor as a character in a book because I know what they look like , the sound of their voice. For instance , I often imagine Donald Sutherland as a smart villain , like the role he played in the Hunger Games. Its hard for me to imagine a new face that fits the part.
The backdrop of the scene , is it important to you? I find it vitally important , but yet again its difficult for me to picture a detailed environment .
How do you avoid a movie ruining the way image faces and places when you read.
Barnaby Sommershaw - Sun, 21 Jun 2015 05:33:11 EST ID:wlKn1FvH No.67229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Never had trouble with that. The text provides the clues and my imagination does the rest.
Also, not everything needs to have a fixed and perfectly sketched out appearance. The fluidity of these things is one of the advantages books have over movies, I feel.
Faces and places become clearer as you get to know them and sometimes the way you picture something changes dramatically when new information is available.
Associating an actors face with a character rather ruins this for me, because, while it's nice to see a character 'come to life', it takes away all the things they could have been.
(Which is why I make a point of always reading the book before I go see the movie)

Imagination is something that improves the more you use it.
You need to watch less tv, son.
Jack Trotfield - Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:29:06 EST ID:22MHIKWk No.67232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have a very watered down imagination. Vague images pass by my mind. I would say my imagination tunnel visions onto whatever object or person is being described, leaving a void of imagination around everything else. The images never link up but remain separate, so I struggle with stories that depend on you knowing the location of a person, object, or place relative to another (Tolkien, GRRM).

For some reason the Dune series is one of my favorites, Frank Herbert's writing style syncs well with my imagination and I see quite vividly when I read him.
Mustapha Mond - Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:16:03 EST ID:e8INrhRn No.67238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks for your input. I'm also reading dune as we speak. It just seems that everything has to be perfect in my minds eye. Since books are so much better than movies , I feel as if it must be perfect the first time threw. Good god I love books. Looking back on the books Iv'e read , it puts me in that place and time , nostalgia.
Esther Dindlefere - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:16:00 EST ID:VMFLXJW3 No.67239 Ignore Report Quick Reply

honestly, i dont really sit there and imagine the the street or the town, i just kind of take it as face value, like if im reading a book and its all like "the female protaganist began rushing down the laneway looking over her shoulder to see if the antagonist was still chasing her, he chestnut brown hair flies in her face and she bumps into a table "sorry" she says automatically to the couple drinking coffee, she picks up the pace passing a second hand bookshop, once again she looks over her shoulder and the antagonist is gone"

So like, i kind of dont sit there imagining a laneway with a cafe and a bookshop, i just take it on face value.

if that makes sense? sure i could sit down and draw out the laneway, but thats too detailed and doesnt work with the pace of the story?

idk. like i can imagine it without having a picture in my head. if that makes sense.

Books that help you escape by Augustus Cripperford - Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:45:41 EST ID:z0qb+bRW No.66793 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm depressed and I want to hole myself up in my apartment with tea, books, and weed. What can you recommend? I considered rereading the Harry Potter series for that comfortable nostalgia, but I feel a little old for it.
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Isabella Dottinghall - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:19:45 EST ID:e9LtWHgM No.67160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
House of Leaves is a pretty immersive book.
Jarvis Babbleson - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 17:16:28 EST ID:oX1eKzmm No.67178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, it's not. House of Leaves sucks. Not immersive, it's style over substance. Books that have helped me escape are:

The Beach
His Dark Materials
One Hundred Years of Solitude
Samuel Bevingchit - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:09:17 EST ID:HT8HiFAa No.67196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the blind owl
no longer human
Edward Fanwater - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:19:27 EST ID:U2Zs4av4 No.67197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>no longer human
Nice, very nice.
Reuben Dandershaw - Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:44:44 EST ID:xYg8qH+0 No.67226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez, it's fantastic.

Chains of words that are used too often by William Doblingham - Fri, 05 Jun 2015 03:44:57 EST ID:S8bVwTCv No.67162 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sometimes I notice that certain orders of words are used too much in storytelling. I always notice them right away in a book. "The fact that ___" comes up often enough and is glaring on any page.

Hard for me to come up with examples, but I always know them when I see them. It is like chains of words that people have only learned by association with a common saying, or read that way in other books and so always use the same way themselves.

There are a LOT of these unattractive chains if you read enough to start noticing.
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Priscilla Baffingville - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:18:03 EST ID:sLQ88usM No.67167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't get it. Don't the re-read what they wrote? Can't they correct these mistakes? Don\t they care about the quality of their work? Where are the editors?
Jarvis Dillynure - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 00:54:47 EST ID:ta4EK9n8 No.67171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think it's a matter of personal preference rather than objective mistakes. Even with editing, authors might not find their habits as weird or immersion killing as you do. Example:

George R.R. Martin adds in repeated words and phrasing that is a bit of world building--idioms that might mirror our own but have their own voice so to speak. "Words are wind", "[useless as] nipples on a breastplate", "half a hundred", "many/much and more", etc. I understand why they're in the stories, but when repeated often enough readers start rolling their eyes.

In a similar vein, some of his descriptions can become tiresome. Structurally, he loves describing things with three adjectives. Almost every fucking time, especially food, that fat fuck. By his own admission GRRM was profoundly inspired by Tolkien, which is probably where he picked up a penchant for verbose yet inane description.

I actually really like both authors btw

I hope that helps, although maybe I misunderstood your question.
Eliza Clillertudge - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:43:52 EST ID:eYtE5UKO No.67176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
his food descriptions are amazing, I think. I love that shit. His food descriptions became so popular that he made a cookbook off the series. Great stuff.

Anyways OP I get you. There's a lot of stuff like that that my old lit professor wanted to erase from our papers entirely. I can't remember them really but a lot of it is most obviously obvious in stuff or fiction written by high schoolers. Oh my god the amount of phrases you find in that shit are hilarious when you look back on them (I never wrote anything but I knew people who did)
Will find some stuff later

Don't even get me started on actual cliche phrases
Eliza Clommerchedging - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:15:41 EST ID:Zf/fUkTw No.67177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, the South Park episodes has the guys singing about weiners, but really if they had read the books they would have made the songs about food.
Albert Coshwore - Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:52:11 EST ID:NtVxZANE No.67217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP perhaps you are experiencing anhedonia
Nb but I hope you see this and question yourself

G.E.B seen threads like this before but thougth id make my own by Ian Deddlewan - Sat, 30 May 2015 14:14:51 EST ID:1Z5wcAgD No.67152 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i just randomly bought this book a few years ago because I read people talking about it an thought id jump on the band wagon and read something educational rather than the true mafia type books i normally read or philp k dick books.

ANy way first time got about 50 pages into it anf give up
then tried again got a bit frther to the point here they started talking logic and shit and it didnt make much sense

Ive never really understood mathematics and I think thats why I couldn't comprehend the book very well.

So any way been very busy restarting college and shit since september,,tests are nearly done now,only 2 ore weeks and m going go give this book a seriouse go see what its actualy all aout and see what I can learn from it.

>1 and the main one
what can be learnt from this book,what has it taught you ??
>2 Is there anything I should read before hand so I can grasp the concepts a lot easier in this book ?
I am now a bit better at mathematics as i have been learning it in college (only gcse level though which I dont think is usefull at all in this book)
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Jenny Soppertot - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:50:01 EST ID:vMjO3jcP No.67182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well none of this in the pic applies to me(part of a review on good reads ) but now I've finished college I plan to give it ago.
Cedric Fevingridge - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:50:42 EST ID:OACOy51k No.67192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the review

Basil Bublingnod - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:17:51 EST ID:zOTM0F1a No.67195 Ignore Report Quick Reply

dont kek
Hedda Nebbleworth - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:02:41 EST ID:zBzBHFQR No.67209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
reading it now. Just be patient, digest it over a month reading a chapter (and the accompanying dialogue) every few days.

This book redefined my world view, and I have a new appreciation for mathematics. It's like all these questions about why culture is so fucking meta these days was answered right before my eyes!

This book is really about Artificial Intelligence, programming and trying to define what a human brain really is. The Escher and Bach parts are significant, but really only there for thematic purposes (though the parallels he draws between the three will blow your mind).

I came into this book with a terrible understanding of mathematics, but a cursory understanding of music theory and biology and programming, which helped me understand the book greatly.

If you don't understand it now, don't worry it will be there in five years.

I recommend this book to anyone who has ever consciously taken a step back and considered the way they think - like taken a look inward and examined the logic you just used to come up with a thought. This book makes you feel stupid but in a good way, a "wow the world is crazy I should go do things!" sort of way.
Hedda Nebbleworth - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 02:03:46 EST ID:zBzBHFQR No.67210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The book is Godel, Escher and Bach for anyone wondering. I was confused at first.

Logicomix by Emma Candlefoot - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 00:48:32 EST ID:QucSonmj No.67181 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can we please discuss this graphic novel?

Here's the torrent


I'd rather not yet comment myself because I don't want to poison the well. I'd like to hear other's thoughts first.
Cyril Samblesutch - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:06:42 EST ID:OEChjG36 No.67183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I loved it! Loved the Wittgenstein part specially. Really easy and fun to read and gives you a general perspective on the history of logic.

After reading this I took a seminar on paraconsistent logics, after which I got absolutely disillusioned with logic and stopped studying it alltogether.

Writing a story by Archie Blythefield - Tue, 09 Jun 2015 14:54:33 EST ID:tvxUL/RF No.67179 Report Reply Quick Reply
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Whenever I want to write a story I always forget the ideas I had the night before while laying in bed, So I begin to free-write and I always get writers' block right after the introduction and can never think of a good plot. Do you guys have any tips for comign up with story ideas?
Wesley Surrychane - Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:25:58 EST ID:HBa9joUH No.67180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nope, if you don't have an idea then maybe you shouldn't write at all

or maybe start writing and add shit up as you keep writing moar moar moar
but that's impossible with "writer's block"

Tell you what. I am exact opposite of you. I have plenty of characters, plotlines, and ideas, but whenever I try to write them down I am dissatisfied with the quality of my writing and give up after several pages.
or earlier.
Charlotte Bocklecocke - Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:14:35 EST ID:fpvydsjA No.67187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Creating tools is useful, such as character profiles, rough maps (of the world, a city, or of a camp the character is at?) maybe some bullet points about what you do know what you want to happen. Another idea is to carry around a small notebook with you to jot down ideas to come back to later. Perhaps look-up different brain storm techniques, the most common being the interrelating web. That never really worked for me, if I don't know a direction to take the story I keep going with it anyway, introducing a new subject every once in awhile for the character to interact with or be effected by, having fun with environmental descriptions. Most of the time what is written doesn't feel right, its not until returning to the story with at least a day between and with a critical eye through revisions (deleting fluff, clarifying points, adding new tangents) that the story is closer to my expectations.
Jarvis Pittfuck - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 05:28:30 EST ID:fpvydsjA No.67193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I mean keep writing even if it doesn't feel right, eventually something will click, and you can just edit out the other crap later. Outlines are good, so is a time to write or be imaginative besides the moment of reflection before sleep.

Stephen King by Ntnchamp2 - Sat, 09 May 2015 20:57:18 EST ID:fUjeQ70T No.67040 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Favorite Stephen king book? Does he deserve to be considered on the Mount Rushmore of novelists? Why doesn't academia accept him as culturally significant? Is he just another dean koontz?

Pic related/ I'm reading this now on suggestion even though King himself described it as an "Awful book" in a Rolling Stone interview
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Molly Blubberwane - Sun, 24 May 2015 18:41:23 EST ID:SrrPtE5I No.67119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a big fan of Thinner.
Lillian Wagglekeg - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:32:14 EST ID:2PNkKG// No.67169 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Favorite Stephen king book?

Probably The Stand. Maybe one of the first four books of the Dark Tower (the rest were dreck).

>Does he deserve to be considered on the Mount Rushmore of novelists?

I"m not sure. I really don't find it particularly useful to think in those terms. There are good writers who don't get their due, and there are hack writers like Cormac McCarthy who have been very nearly deified.

So if you put King on the "Mount Rushmore of novelists", he'd probably be there with some cunts.

>Why doesn't academia accept him as culturally significant?

They do. Significant to "low" culture, anyway. He's too popular not to give him that.
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Hugh Chindledock - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 23:34:37 EST ID:kO3lhuBC No.67170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Unrelated question, but you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable about the subject.

How is the modern they Academia? Are they as elitist and tasteless as my experience so far proves?
Lillian Wagglekeg - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 04:32:19 EST ID:2PNkKG// No.67172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, first I have to offer the disclaimer that I graduated from college 15 years ago, so keep that in mind.

But I would have to say that it varies. The academic culture varies at different institutions, in different departments, and of course not all faculty share the same opinions. I think that's going to become increasingly likely due to some accelerating economic and demographic changes in higher education.

Until the 1950s, university professors were mostly cut of the same cloth. Most had an upper-middle class background. Many came from money. The G.I. Bill opened up higher education to more people, but it wasn't really until the 1960s and 1970s that your average middle class schmoe was breaking into the professioriate. When they did, a Ph.D. was usually a ticket to an upper-middle class income (or at least close), job security, and status. So academics were a fairly secure class of people who could feel as though they were looking down from a height. The ivory tower, you know.

However, now, as Baby Boomer professors who went to college in the 1960s and 1970s retire, they are not always being replaced with tenure-track faculty. Tenure is becoming less common, as are full-time, long-term contracts in general in academia. Faculty have been concerned about the trend for a couple of decades now, but it's only getting worse, and it's far from over. For the foreseeable future, there will still be tenure and tenure-track professorships, but they will become less common until the bulk of instructors in higher education are, if not temporary adjunct faculty, at least untenured year-to-year employees who can be terminated at any time. They'll also be paid significantly less than their predecessors, and with the increased cost of their own education, they'll be significantly poorer in general.

So academics are becoming poorer, less secure in their jobs, and are suffering from a loss of status. There is no reason to believe that this will not continue.

Whether this will beat some of the snobbery out of academia is debatable. It could go either way. As academics become poorer and people working just another job, they may become more humble. On the other hand, they could resent their relative lack of economic well-being and status in spite of their many years of education and adopt an even greater snobbery as a kind of psychological insulation against the fact that they went to school for 20 years and took out massive student loans to basically have the same income and position in society as a regular jackoff playing solitaire in an office cubicle all day.

There will probably still be an elite, and for all I know, they may be the major tastemakers. But as BA degrees become the new high school diploma I suspect tastes in general will change. A lot of girls who like Twilight aren't going to stop liking it just because they go to college. The number of college kids I knew who were obsessed with Harry Potter was bewildering. That kind of thing.
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Phyllis Duckhood - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:25:14 EST ID:EGzAMx/s No.67175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hack writers like Cormac McCarthy who have been very nearly deified
I've read no country for old men, the road and blood meridian but nothing by faulkner. Can you go into more detail with the criticism against mccarthy?

Heaven's Tao by William Bragglelack - Fri, 06 Mar 2015 04:21:04 EST ID:zx+PPhQU No.66792 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The Tao of heaven is like the bending of a bow.
The high is lowered, and the low is raised.
If the string is too long, it is shortened;
If there is not enough, it is made longer.

The Tao of Heaven
Is like drawing a bow
Lower that which is high
Raise that which is low
Reduce that which has excess
Add to that which is lacking

The Tao of heaven
Reduces the excessive
And adds to the lacking
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Lillian Dricklefere - Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:26:55 EST ID:g+Jh8/NU No.66958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At least they didn't attribute it to Confucius or Gandhi
Ian Chopperhall - Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:09:41 EST ID:2RLSDpcS No.66959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know who Lao Tzu is. But what is so ridiculous about the quote? I don't get it
Wesley Fanshaw - Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:40:41 EST ID:xxTSMJjt No.66994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lao Tzu is the "author" of the Tao Te Ching, the main Taoist text. Most scholars think he probably wasn't a real dude, and that the Tao Te Ching was a collaborative work. Lao Tzu just means "wise teacher" or something like that in Chinese.

Anyway, even if he was a real dude, that quote definitely doesn't come from him as it isn't anywhere in the Tao Te Ching and that's the only book by Lao Tzu.
Cedric Goodwill - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:04:00 EST ID:rryFWt/l No.67173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So your saying that its okay to have your dick sucked by guys as long as you feel your not gay and are the dominants male?
Hugh Chindledock - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:11:48 EST ID:kO3lhuBC No.67174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
or Stalin

We create images in our heads which in reality would seem ipossible by Nell Turveyhood - Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:16:54 EST ID:esHArYlS No.67164 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>In one sentence or less.

Four quad copters, attached by wire to the body of a smiling bear , flying through the neighborhood, spreading an aura of good vibrations and positive feelings

Wisdom Literature by Lydia Cromblefadging - Sun, 24 May 2015 12:26:25 EST ID:JDCdJZ6G No.67114 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are some good books to "learn" wisdom? I know the various religious books but they seem to fall short of what I'm looking for.

I do wonder if wisdom can be learned or do you have to get it through direct experience.
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Cornelius Buzzhood - Wed, 27 May 2015 21:00:42 EST ID:nLo0HEpM No.67144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah, that book is nothing special. When I read it I had a feeling I play Europa Universalis

also, Athens are not portrayed in a positive light
Nicholas Wapperstitch - Fri, 29 May 2015 00:02:29 EST ID:Ub0bBl1f No.67150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think lessons can be taught and learned, but wisdom is when you understand that you've been taught a lesson and what that lessons is. Wisdom always comes from within, the self recognizing something in the self.

Wisdom is to be found in all sorts of people, young and old. Like, saying 'I don't know' is wisdom. It is recognizing limitations, ignorance.

Other people's wisdoms falls short for you, what you're looking for is a way to connect deeper with your own self. The most direct experience possible for any human.
Molly Feddledale - Sun, 31 May 2015 19:24:50 EST ID:b3bah97m No.67157 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The speeches and debates are some of the earliest and best examples of realism vs idealism, rationality vs morality, and all that fun stuff that made the modern age.
Nicholas Sablingford - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:41:55 EST ID:1Z5wcAgD No.67158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
any thoughts onthese

thus spoke zarathustra
finite and infinite games
the fabric of reality

Henry Bossletare - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:33:06 EST ID:V63MhXxi No.67159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Read only the first one, it was great

But you might wanna want to read more of his books(especially beyond good and evil) to understand that.
Well, actually, understanding that is something very elusive anyway. It changes together with your worldview and experiences.
Deep stuff.

Musings on Moral Lessons In Science Fiction by Whitey Nickleville - Thu, 05 Feb 2015 11:52:56 EST ID:djXTyEu8 No.66660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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We've all read those bits of stories, where the awesome and cool innovations always seem to go hand in hand with breaches of nineteen-fifties propriety.

One case that particularly stands out for myself is that of the Spacers in Asimov tradition. I recall in one of the books they had a bleeding heart spacer talk about the tragedy of genetically enhanced living, in that it made his daughter want to have sex with him. The logical byproduct of technical (robots) and biological innovation is incest! The only safe avenue of study happens to be psychology, which will one day rule the world; please continue to publish me oh supreme cult like future overlords.

That's pretty much my whole beef with Asimov.
Clara Gumbleway - Fri, 06 Feb 2015 00:02:29 EST ID:JHSbXgM+ No.66662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i felt the need to seek out and post this image
Betsy Dattingpere - Fri, 06 Feb 2015 10:52:23 EST ID:H0Qy6Tgn No.66663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>That's pretty much my whole beef with Asimov
Dude that ain't beef, that's a slice of ham

In pretty much every other Asimov novel he has robotics and technology as the things that enable utopia, why get upset over the one time he decides to throw in a drawback?
Doris Hicklefoot - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 01:08:33 EST ID:w+wWDd3o No.66670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hehehehe. That was pretty good.

Unfortunately I have nothing else to say here
Poopster - Thu, 28 May 2015 15:22:10 EST ID:mddVA7Uo No.67146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I love science fiction.
I hit random thread button to hydrostorm in your thread.
but before i do, may I suggest "deathday" by peter hamilton?

Albert Boffingville - Thu, 28 May 2015 16:27:05 EST ID:Ik2pzKKX No.67147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh, you crazy people from 1950's

>incest is bad
>blind people are powerless
>once women get to work society will collapse
>taking hormones of opposite gender makes you a murderous ABOMINATION
>muh Utopian future with no religion

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