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Poetry From Me by CMCB !PLX6KqKYI2 - Fri, 05 Sep 2014 23:06:07 EST ID:QlmXTzGy No.65736 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Art Colored Lenses

As I search for myself I often find the search very difficult
One thing I feel I am certain of is that I am an artist
But am I a good artist?
How should I define a good artist?
I am adept at writing guitar painting drawing but where does true good come into my art?
Where do I begin to come through on the paper?
There is truly no meter to measure my talent or lack thereof
I strive so hard to echo great surrealists great beat poets great musicians does that take away from my art?
I wanted to finish this series of poems with my greatest work yet and I hope I am doing that
This is poetry
THAT cannot be denied
My idolized poets wrote some of their best works under the influence of uppers downers or both I sit here drinking herbal tea
Relapse is too much to risk for me
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Samuel Pittfuck - Sat, 06 Sep 2014 01:49:55 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>sees the OC poetry thread
>nah I'll just make my own

way to be nb
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Edward Dartbanks - Sat, 06 Sep 2014 03:27:30 EST ID:QlmXTzGy No.65741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65740

Would you like for me to post it there, too? I can do that if you want.
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Samuel Pittfuck - Sat, 06 Sep 2014 04:19:02 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65741
You didn't need the comma before the too, and yes you're wasting space. Not to try to drive away posters on a destitute board, but there was a thread for this right on the front page and you straight up ignored it. nb again
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Ebenezer Derrymudge - Sat, 06 Sep 2014 10:31:28 EST ID:bq5scg8g No.65744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65742
Yeah, not to be a dick, but as talented as some poets here are, none of them have enough talent to warrant their own thread to separate their genius poems from the plebs in the OC poetry thread. Either way, someone should have mentioned that to OP in his /420/ thread asking about where to post poetry, they referred him to this board when they should've posted the thread itself. OP sounds new, at least to this board, so I'm not hating, but so you know where we're coming from, the board is slow so when one person makes a thread solely for their work and keeps bumping it, what on a faster board would be okay comes off as spamming on this slow board.
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Edward Dartbanks - Sat, 06 Sep 2014 17:02:48 EST ID:QlmXTzGy No.65747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65744
That's pretty much what happened. I didn't know there was an OC poetry thread, I just got referred to this board, and I posted it without reading the front page. I probably should have. That being said, it was an honest mistake; I didn't ignore anything. Now I know what to do in the future.

nb


bukowski by Nathaniel Blaggleworth - Tue, 02 Sep 2014 23:38:03 EST ID:+12fHjDC No.65714 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what's the what what on bukowski? I see quotes of his all over the internet and from what I can tell, I like the way he thought. what should I read first?
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Cedric Sodgewell - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:41:07 EST ID:0q5R9oZb No.65716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
His poems are what he cut his teeth on, and some of them are striking reads. You can find a lot on the internet.

If you want a collection, Love Is A Dog From Hell is pretty great, as well as most of the collections published during his lifetime.

His short story collections are solid - Hot Water Music is one that comes to mind - and his novels are great too. I would start with something like Women (my personal favorite) or Ham on Rye.

His voice is so staccato, blunt, simple and honest, that it tends to have a hypnotic effect when you read it.
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Nathaniel Blaggleworth - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 19:18:30 EST ID:+12fHjDC No.65724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65716
I am going to read some of the work you suggested.
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Beatrice Ferringcheck - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:35:37 EST ID:0pCMQM4c No.65727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65724
The Last of The Earth Poems. Thank me later.
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Hedda Dinderfug - Thu, 04 Sep 2014 11:13:38 EST ID:3qp6Vr39 No.65729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65714
First thing I read from him was "The post office", It was his first book. I think it's a great introduction to him, like sort of a short chapter of his biography.

I love all his work though, but I think I like better his fiction books than his poetry.
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Martha Sussledock - Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:34:25 EST ID:+12fHjDC No.65735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65729
there are so many I want to read something like The Post Office. just jumping into his poems is a little bewildering, he is kind of thoughtful and bewildering and I like him


Anybody? by Eugene Draffingsone - Fri, 15 Aug 2014 08:29:41 EST ID:s58t5mMY No.65603 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So after falling in love with the Wind Up Bird Chronicle I have purchased Kafka On The Shore, I was going to get A Sheep Chase but read a few reviews and elected to get the former. I have heard it is the most confusing of all of his works, I loved the mystical and twist and tuns the plot had in the wind up bird, and everyone knows there are chapters that are tedious, however somehow he keeps your gripped and he is now in my top 3 authors.

has anybody read this book and without giving anything as it is coming in the mail, what are your thoughts?
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Cedric Sodgewell - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:44:44 EST ID:0q5R9oZb No.65717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65715

I am yet to read his other stuff, having so far read only short stories from his collection 'The Elephant Vanishes' and his novel 'Norwegian Wood'.

While I understand 'Norwegian Wood' is fairly different stylistically than his more abstract stuff, the emotional wallop of the book, the sterility and effectiveness of the atmosphere, and the rich, believable characters - their loneliness and solitary point-of-view seems to pound out of the book - added up to an intense, satisfying and beautiful read.

It's been a few years since I read that, and I'm keen to dive in to another one of his books.

Should I start with The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle or Kafka on the Shore?
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Hannah Ciblinghall - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:48:50 EST ID:R+h1DJdQ No.65718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65715
Never even heard of that book in all honesty. Not everyone is going to like a certain type of film or book are they, but he is not as infamous as he is for no reason.

I will give you my reasons.
Firstly he writes in a way that seems to kind of cast this mystical spell over you (in the books I have read so far), like an old man sitting you down and gently telling you a grand tale. At times things can drag on but that spell seems to keep you hooked.

Secondly the Japanese culture has a good impact on the plot lines and you can feel the culture ooze from the book, again this is my opinion.

I love how he adds surreal/mystical elements into every day life so seemingly, they take you on a journey that opens up your mind and takes you to a different world.

Also, if you read carefully, in the books I have read there are parts which point to Buddhist philosophy which is something I have been interested in for nearly a decade, so naturally that reaches out to me.

he is just a very unique writer, but like I stated at the beginning, he can't please everyone. Maybe try a different book, research the top 5 Murakami and then look into their reviews and pick one. I started with the Wind Up Bird Chronicle which was great and imo a good place to start with Murakami.
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Nicholas Duckhall - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 16:50:10 EST ID:fUjeQ70T No.65723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65603

I read Kafka On The Shore after being interested in magical realist writers like Gabriel Garcia Marquez and David Foster Wallace, and I found it to be very weird and compelling. He has an introverted writing style that slowly seduces you and casts a pall over the reading. There is definitely a sense of creating a mystical world where anything is possible which lends a great deal to the reading experience. Haven't read anything else yet but I picked up IQ84 at a used book store. Murakami seems to be very sentimental and colorful, like...Dickens?
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David Bundale - Thu, 04 Sep 2014 04:55:26 EST ID:R+h1DJdQ No.65728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65723
This board is very slow, anyway glad you liked it and I share a lot of the same ideas as you about the book. I read it in 3 days as well!!

I can't spoiler text and want to ask an opinion about on part of the book that is left unanswered (a lot of it is lets be honest), so if you don't want to read from here on don't.



At the start of the book there is the siting of that UFO, it was ruled out as a US bomber and then all of those children pass out. Later the teacher reveals that she had that massive period and masturbated the night before, but the UFO and passing out was never really explained or mentioned again. Any ideas?
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Phyllis Gorringson - Fri, 05 Sep 2014 09:05:35 EST ID:DjeLzzkQ No.65733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65715
For me it's the ambiguous tone, I enjoy writers who use ambiguity as a motif - not just because uncertainty/nuance are more true to the human experience than solidity, but because it ignites my imagination/empathy more than books which try to guide your interpretation with lexical signposting. It's also super easy reading on the surface and from a basic plot standpoint they all function as mysteries (even if they're abstract and unresolved, which I'd say is the point)


requests by Wesley Dommlecocke - Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:04:55 EST ID:IanDii+Z No.65694 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ITT: we make and fulfill requests for pdfs

anyone have bikenomics
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Caroline Clummlefork - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:30:52 EST ID:TT7VofWC No.65711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65694
I'm looking for a good place to score College Textbook pdfs

Sorry I got nothing to contribute
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Ernest Demmerdale - Fri, 05 Sep 2014 00:48:26 EST ID:AuAmYuhV No.65732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65711
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/


Sci-fi thread by Wesley Herrybidge - Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:05:21 EST ID:9nM2YufW No.65124 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Here we discuss and recommend sci-fi books, but let's not be strict about what is and isn't sci-fi
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Ian Chiddleman - Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:21:19 EST ID:/cyyEf2a No.65329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Another vote for Hyperion & Endymion.

I also recommend The Quantum Thief and its sequel by Hannu Rajaniemi. I long considered Hyperion to be my favorite sci-fi novel, but now that's contested. The book seamlessly combines classic sci-fi themes, mystery, mindfuckery and post modern writing techniques. It starts as a hard sci-fi con artist story, but transforms into something so much more.

Also, and these fall into the not-quite-scifi -category but I think some of you might enjoy them, The Course Of The Heart and Signs Of Life by M. John Harrison. The former might fall into the realms of magical realism, but at times it's just surreal. Walking the line between sense and insanity. It has inspired me greatly, but perhaps that's just because I'm weird. The latter is closer to actual sci-fi but, like the former, concentrates more on the characters and their lives being pulled apart. The sci-fi is a tool for the story, not the purpose. Both books have a wondrous feeling of dreaming; they manage to at the same time tie the realities of the characters' lives with complete melancholic insanity.
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Martha Gavingdale - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:37:46 EST ID:Y8+aTGY5 No.65549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone read the WWW-trilogy by Robert J Sawyer?
IMO first part blew my mind, well written modern scifi
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Sidney Denderkadge - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 08:45:17 EST ID:BpCDq8rY No.65719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Childhood's End is the best sci-fi book ever.
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Barnaby Hunkinstock - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:31:53 EST ID:IrSQyLJL No.65720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a disturbing lack of Heinlein in this thread. Y'all should be ashamed.
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Barnaby Hunkinstock - Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:34:02 EST ID:IrSQyLJL No.65721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65720
Also, Old Man's War by John Scalzi is pretty good, the first two book's at least.


Sword of Truth Book Club! by Wesley Subberhine - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:43:39 EST ID:vRHUlNNa No.65680 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This thread is dedicated to the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind. All relevant posts are welcome!

Wanna talk about Richard and Kahlan? Go for it.
Like discussing the themes and plots of specific books? Me too.
Least/most favorite character? We've all got one.

For those who haven't read the series, it is set in a fantasy world with a scope to (nearly) match the LotR trilogy. The main protagonist is Richard Cypher, a simple woods guide in his home, the Hartland Woods. One day Richard runs into a strange woman dressed in all white who is being hunted by a group of men in armor. His decision to save her life changes his life forever, as well as the lives of countless others.

Also, if anyone has any other similar series to recommend, please share. I'm always looking for more to read.

Discussion Topic #1- What character from the series do you most admire, and why?

I greatly admire all of the Mord-Sith, especially Cara. She has an unbreakable determination in everything she endeavors to do, and unflinching loyalty to her friends, as well as a complete and total lack of mercy to her foes. Yet despite all this, she has a charming sense of humor and a touching- if well hidden- soft side.

Ps- I know the tv spin off was atrocious, so we don't even have to go there. -_-
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Nathaniel Doddleputch - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:14:46 EST ID:Mr6GAfo0 No.65695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65693
>complex characters
Nope. Richard is the goodest goody good guy. The first "grey" characters you'll meet are in the 2nd book, and they're more "we follow these strict rules regardless of the consequences" types.
>Is the plot complex
Not really; it's basically a cheesy action movie, and torture/revenge fantasies.
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Hugh Nendledale - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:24:40 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65695
It sounds like I might not enjoy it, but after reading some of my favorite books and getting into discussions with people, I've found that I disagree with the reviews of others.
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Cyril Crirringhidge - Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:16:01 EST ID:vRHUlNNa No.65697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65696

Don't listen to Nathaniel Doddleputch, he obviously doesn't have the required intelligence to appreciate this series.

Every character in the series feels like they could have really existed. You learn of their past, what makes them who they are, and in small pieces that slowly build throughout the series.

Every book reveals a new place- one with it's own unique culture and history. The characters from those places have been shaped not only by the culture surrounding them, but also by their own life experiences. Although some are notably predictable, so are there predictable people in reality. For every twist you see coming, there are countless truths that blindside the reader and tie in long forgotten pasts, sometimes even from previous books in the series.

It is my opinion that the setting of the series is more thoroughly fleshed out than that of the lotr series. There are three thousand years of history and great wars long forgotten that shape the world Richard and Kahlan inhabit, and none of it is thrown in as "filler."

If you have the time to start a new series (this one is currently 12 books long), then I'd highly recommend it.

One word of caution- the series takes several grizzly turns and is never afraid to be brutally violent, but not as a cop out. It is just real violence captured in all its horror to show that the world can be a very dark place. Terry Goodkind doesn't pull punches with the violence, but this isn't about killing for the sake of indulging juvenile fantasies.

The underlying theme of the series (being about the seeker of truth) is one of finding the core truths of the world, not just the made up world, but also truths that apply to reality as well. Goodkind is a master of showing light on the dark lies that permeate this world, and he is especially fond of lies that masquerade as self evident truth. Reason is what he champions, unthinking passion is what he abhors.
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Jarvis Cledgewat - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:25:40 EST ID:Mr6GAfo0 No.65698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65697
Wow. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Wow.
Projecting a bit? "doesn't have the required intelligence" and "dislikes it"?

You have no knowledge of my intelligence, and I never said I disliked the series.

If anyone's opinion is to be disregarded or taken with a bucket of salt, I would say it's the person who results to name-calling and strawmanning to defend his book-boner.

The books are mostly one set of graphic violence after another, and the plot from every book is either "A wizard did it" or "An ANCIENT wizard did it." The most annoying part is the deus ex machina of "prophecy".

Everything is prophecy, everything is foretold. Instead of using this as a teaser, or foreshadowing, or a puzzle for the reader, the author always reveals prophesy AFTER THE FACT. Some shit will happen and then someone will say "OMG YOU COMPLETED THIS PROPHECY THAT I'M JUST MAKING YOU AWARE OF RIGHT NOW".

As a reader, it's just sloppy and annoying. The books I read were well written and engaging, but I had had enough after the 3rd book.

And Richard is a Mary-Sue.
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Caroline Wepperlud - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:06:31 EST ID:IrSQyLJL No.65712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Read The Wheel of Time, OP. You'll love it.


Books Of course, by Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:48:49 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65699 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /LIT/

I am looking for a new book or two to read and hope I can have some suggestions, I'm looking something not exactly story based, maybe Philosophy or Science or ...?

Currently I have read The Wall, Nausea, Being And Nothingness: An Essay On Phenomenological Ontology and Existentialism Is A Humanism all by Sartre and Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig.

Any help would be appreciated.

Picture related: A great place to read.
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Charles Hibberhat - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:06:13 EST ID:QHsLeNMW No.65700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gödel, Escher, Bach
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Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:50:14 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65700

Thank you, this looks very interesting. I think I'll buy a few books while I'm at it, so anything else anyone wants to suggest? I think I'd like to start reading some Kant, good book of his to start with?

Thanks again dudes.
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Betsy Cammlefoot - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:11:57 EST ID:5bIczp3f No.65702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65699
What did you think of Nausea? I read it about a month ago and I don't think I "got" it, but then again I am kind of dense.
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Hedda Honkinpug - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 16:30:27 EST ID:QV0Rak+T No.65703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65702

Yeah I feel the same way about Nausea, I did really like it, but my problem was that I was reading it intermittently. I'm going to re read it for sure.
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Charlie of the Chans !!kWjRhGF5 - Mon, 01 Sep 2014 17:07:41 EST ID:FIu+AzFk No.65706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Gaston Bachelard was a French psychoanalyst who died in 1963. If 'psychoanalysis' makes you think "OMFG NO FREUD!," please know that in Europe some followers of Carl Jung also referred to themselves as analysts. Bachelard is one of these and he seems to take Jung's notion of the Shadow' as one of his starting points. James Hillman is another follower of both Jung and Bachelard. This book, "Water and Dreams," is probably his best; he examines the human psyche's interaction with water by reading selections from Malarme, LaValle and Edgar Allen Poe.


Harry Otter by Jo is ho - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:36:21 EST ID:2grY7rcU No.65674 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If this series is so great then why is it that the longest book in the series is comprised of primarily filler?
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Lydia Mangerchuck - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:32:11 EST ID:59Xmc7LN No.65682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why don't you just read sparknotes then, or not read at all? Your whole life is 'filler'.
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Wesley Brasslehood - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 22:55:30 EST ID:DLyLSqma No.65683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Book 5 was a turning point for me in the series. I was young when the first 3 came out (my mom read them to me), 4 was one of the first books I read on my own, but 5 felt so much more grown-up. I dunno, what you call filler, I consider real life shit that related to what I was going through as a teenager but also there was magic.

In hindsight, these books are probably not that great, but for people my age (I'm 21), we grew up with the series and it matured as we did. That's a rare thing to have with contemporary literature.
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Simon Dezzleway - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 13:45:50 EST ID:tV5KTic2 No.65685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>filler
>as an argument for why a book is bad
Herpderp
Anyway the enjoyment of things are subjective; for people growing up along the same age as the characters in the book were, that's a book series like you'll never experience again.
For a 30 year old guy who's bored with his day? Not gonna have the same effect. Maybe he'll find it interesting, idunno.
And no, that doesn't mean people just have nostalgia goggles on
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William Cinkinworth - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:02:27 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65683
I know what you mean. The war has started and the children are thrust into it, becoming members of a rogue organization that must operate in secret, because no one believes there is any real threat yet. It captures the loneliness these people must feel, surrounded by well-meaning fools who would sooner toss them in Azkaban than recognize that they are the difference between life and death for muggles and humans alike. The death of Sirius as well. I feel like it followed the ending of the 4th book very well, when shit began to hit the fan.
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William Cinkinworth - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:06:01 EST ID:UxasC9g6 No.65689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65688
P.S. I understand that people take issue with JK Rowling and like to tear her to pieces for being a mediocre writer or something, but for me... Harry Potter was really important to my youth. And suddenly JK was writing about serious issues, from book 4 onward it got dark, fast. Some may take issue with her prose, but I applaud her imagination, always. She possibly opened up millions of young readers to books and there is no bad here.


Best books about analytical mind. by Henry Murdfield - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 06:34:51 EST ID:h/QVJgbl No.65501 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do you know any good books about developing analytical thinking?

I'm off to university next year and want to strengthen my weaknesses and one of those is analytical thinking which I believe I need to perfect in order to succed in the uni and in life aswell.
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Beatrice Ganningwun - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:06:02 EST ID:NVM1SeUe No.65502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like Skerlock Holmes....

I dont know for technical books. If thats even what you mean by analytical thinking.
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Charlotte Drimbleford - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:12:22 EST ID:8f4psBGr No.65519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65502
Days later, noticed typo, literature board, shame
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Ernest Clennerwatch - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:08:02 EST ID:3Y+booPC No.65525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65501
You can get an introductory math proof/analysis textbook. That will teach formal logic. I think it's a great help
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Nicholas Cimblebury - Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:06:07 EST ID:5vPzwKxN No.65540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Death Note manga
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Esther Billingworth - Sun, 24 Aug 2014 10:58:46 EST ID:F/puVKis No.65662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65540
Yes, and also Liar game manga. It's based of mind games and analytical thinking, you should check it out OP.


Useful words, thesaurus by Clara Dittingchut - Sat, 02 Aug 2014 13:48:17 EST ID:xBWnzF7v No.65495 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /lit/. My name is Clara and I'm a wordaholic.

I'm going back to school in a few weeks, can anybody recommend a favorite pocket thesaurus/writers thesaurus to order? Also, would you please share a useful word, along with its operative usage?

I'll start: Postprandial, which means "after a meal"
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Phyllis Fuckingman - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:00:40 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65639
That's not true at all. For instance, if I wanted to call you an idiot, I could also call you a fool, moron, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, etc. Idiot was the word that came to mind immediately, but thanks to the thesaurus I've found a few others that also convey the message that I'm trying to get across very well. I already understood what these words meant, they just didn't come to mind as readily as idiot did.
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Frederick Turveyville - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:06:16 EST ID:avIP/H54 No.65643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65495

>can anybody recommend a favorite pocket thesaurus/writers thesaurus to order?

Nigga plz. Pic related.

Rubenesque - an adjective describing a full-figured/chunky woman. From the name of Peter Paul Rubens, a painter who liked to paint such women in the buff.
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GeorgeColgate !mzphBpEJ0g - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:53:34 EST ID:xlh4g/UJ No.65646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65642

The words that come to your mind instantly are going to sound more natural and more like your own voice than a bunch of obscure synonyms. Plus all those don't really mean the same thing, they've all got different connotations. Calling me a cretin vs calling me a fool having different tones and connotations. You should trust yourself when writing. If it's not something you'd normally say or think you shouldn't be putting it in your work.
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Emma Brookhall - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:05:29 EST ID:X3lin2bb No.65647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65646
I'm not a writer, but I'd imagine it would be nearly impossible to create believable characters if they all sounded exactly like the author.
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Nicholas Sobblemone - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:29:16 EST ID:qUHNWyWy No.65657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65643
Oh, Reuben


I want to write by Lydia Paddlebot - Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:09:40 EST ID:mj+lJU1J No.65504 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/lit/ i want to write. i've been working on a science fiction story for a while now; hashing out the characters and the plot, thinking about the world. i've got one chapter written so far, and i think it needs quite a bit of revision. i'd really like to make this a real thing and not some daydream in my head, but it's hard to get things rolling.

also, i've had an interesting life so far; i've been to quite a few places including Iraq and my trip to Europe was interesting, to say the least. toward the end of my trip, i ran into some American tourists in Germany who said i should write a book about my experiences. should i just talk about the Europe trip? should i at least mention some of my other adventures? would people even want to read the memoirs of a high school dropout from Ohio turned peacekeeper in the closing days of Bush and Obama's oil war who spent his savings on a half baked European adventure?

i'm pretty disorganized and un focused in general. on top of that, i've read a number of novels and other books, but i'm not exactly a bookworm. i feel like there are things that great authors do that i'm not aware of.

tl;dr, i want to write them books good, but don't know how to really get things going.
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Frederick Turveyville - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:24:19 EST ID:avIP/H54 No.65644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65504

>toward the end of my trip, i ran into some American tourists in Germany who said i should write a book about my experiences. should i just talk about the Europe trip? should i at least mention some of my other adventures? would people even want to read the memoirs of a high school dropout from Ohio turned peacekeeper in the closing days of Bush oil war who spent his savings on a half baked European adventure?

Unless there was something unique about your experiences or you can put a unique spin on them, don't bother. Plenty of people have backpacked Europe and there are plenty of Iraq/Afghanistan memoirs already.

Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Things_They_Carried (the actual book, not the wiki article I just linked) to get an example of a unique voice. He writes about Vietnam.

You can start with a novel if you like, but short stories are better for practice. Writing short stories will allow you to work on the fundamental techniques of fiction like voice and character development without having to worry about the "logistics" of a novel just yet. Some of the world's best and best-known novelists started out as or were also known as short story writers. Joyce comes to mind.

Short stories are pretty important in science fiction and often serve as a basis for developing ideas that wind up finding their full expression in novel form.

If you're not familiar with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year's_Best_Science_Fiction series of anthologies, check out the most recent few years from your public library (public libraries usually have this series) and start reading. There's some truly stunning work in there.

Good luck.
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GeorgeColgate !mzphBpEJ0g - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:46:42 EST ID:xlh4g/UJ No.65645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65583

I love dat soap
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Hedda Sudgestone - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:48:43 EST ID:W4zEZje8 No.65650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65576
This. I scrapped my old material and went back to the drawing board after I actually read the 200 pages I had written.
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Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:35:33 EST ID:Bg4/cz/T No.65654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65576
" Accomplished artists in any field
don't like to tell beginners that their
work will suck at the start"


you kidding me? all they ever say to new writers is that they'll suck at first, the first draft will suck, the last draft will still suck, and so on.

although they have to because everyone thinks they are king.
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Clara Peblingchork - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 15:43:48 EST ID:FI+ylxxC No.65660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65654
Its a good thing to say, it seems, so it is said. Doesnt mean it is an enjoyable thing to say.


Barnes and noble run by James Nombleforth - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:16:03 EST ID:RQlghkrz No.65584 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Mind opening books easily found at Barnes and noble


So I'm hitting up the b&n later, and I wanna know how /lit/ is going to change the impression of my thoughts?

Doesn't have to be mind opening, just interesting or knowledgable
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Graham Crunnerwell - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:11:36 EST ID:qUHNWyWy No.65588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You've probably already gone, but I found Walden immensely enjoyable.
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Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:16:18 EST ID:WLS4IFLU No.65589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
try some Emmanuel Kant?
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Lillian Gallerhadging - Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:18:35 EST ID:LFueBpla No.65590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>65589
already did go good gents, but thanks for the info ill read up on em next time
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Archie Grimford - Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:02:37 EST ID:3qp6Vr39 No.65594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65589
That's a really good and boring suggestion. I'm currently rereading the trascendental deduction, it's a fucking tough read.

OP if you read Kant you should read Groundwork for the Metaphysic of Morals, and then read Dostoievski's Crime and Punishment. That oughta give you a couple months of fun, and something to think about.
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Jarvis Grimfoot - Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:55:46 EST ID:277NVQ0Q No.65616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>65589
Nah. First, Hume. Then Kant.


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