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Words as a Weapon by Jack Billingham - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 04:34:30 EST ID:7Df882Aq No.70126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm working on a novel that I hope will induce the reader's worldview to permanently darken. While still being an engaging, realistic and enjoyable read, of course. I don't much trust this whole 'grimdark' label and if I wanted shock I'd read fan fiction.

But I'm having a hard time figuring out how this process of fucking up people's psyches will work. I'm quite desensitized; things don't really get to me anymore and haven't for some time. Bradbury could really get me down, and the bits I've read of Camus gave me a taste of the void. I need that man in my life for sure.

So I'm trying to draw from more negative, caustic literature. I plan on purchasing a copy of Carl Panzram's autobiography, and I have already found inspiration in the lyrics of bands like Dystopia and Spitboy, they really explore this sense of outraged disgust that I think can really wear you out morally.

I'm looking for things that aren't just for shock value, or just violence porn. I need an emotional punch, something that'll make the reader feel hatred, that will bother them and encourage them to set aside their personal values. What is this factor x that can induce compassion fatigue in even the casual reader? How do I use fiction to make people more selfish and cruel in their habits and thinking?

Please share any relevant experience you have towards this line of thinking and perhaps recommend any literature you think fits this bill.
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Ian Dingerforth - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 05:24:30 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why do you want to do that?
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John Hupperwell - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 04:15:11 EST ID:4vZzZP5I No.70128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tldr recommend me edgy gay shit
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Charles Nebbledare - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:56:15 EST ID:o35SPqei No.70149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70126
I feel like trying to write a novel from the top down like that isn't going to work so well.

Why not give one of your characters this very task, and write the story of them writing the story that gets people down?
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Basil Bleddlewater - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 01:34:56 EST ID:NhTobTLJ No.70160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Make sure that everyone does in the end
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Basil Bleddlewater - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 01:35:39 EST ID:NhTobTLJ No.70161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70160
*dies
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Eugene Barddale - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:20:51 EST ID:kEUQrb47 No.70163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70126
Check out Lautreamont, Mary Maclane, maybe Dostoevsky . As Charles said though, don't write from the top down. Let the reader experience absorbing and reflecting over your words. Forced dark tones will become cheesy and feel like something for angsty teen girls.
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Isabella Fandock - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 06:44:29 EST ID:dGuMtlr0 No.70258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're still around...

Panzram - You're on the right track, that's an excellent start
Eric Harris's (Columbine shooter) writings
Christopher Browning - Ordinary Men
Iris Chang - The Rape of Nanking
Peter Williams - Unit 731
Dostoevsky - Crime and Punishment (also Notes from Underground would be good also)
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Samuel Drocklefoot - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 13:49:16 EST ID:wkdzb9wX No.70259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_End_of_the_Night


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