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Hm. by Tulip Gemini - Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:29:32 EST ID:NtRf1Aeb No.7468 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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4. Moment magnitude (Mw) is another way to measure the strength of an earthquake. It is based on the Seismic Moment. What are the three (3) variables used to calculate the Seismic Moment? (list)

What does this mean?
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Alice Snodstock - Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:51:14 EST ID:p1pPpakD No.7469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7468
What three Quantities can vary when calculating the moment magnitude. Don't think the answer can be figured out from the question.

What class is this for?


Simple math by Angus Blonderdale - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:11:06 EST ID:Y7lNfR2b No.7443 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Perhaps /math/ is more knowledgable in the science of mathematics than /b/

Is it possible to be a third (1/3) of an ethnicity?
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Fucking Fushford - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:09:38 EST ID:7sOz2b3F No.7463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7458
3 halfs dude, is like... an ounce and a half dude
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Edwin Crinkinford - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:18:57 EST ID:zXj5YCCs No.7464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7463
Na man, she found a way to fit three halfs into a whole. Lol
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Frederick Wucklefadge - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:02:56 EST ID:BgRBA1g7 No.7465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This has been beat to death, but yes with an infinite amount of ancestors then it is possible to approach the limit of exactly 1/3 ethnicity, but since the amount of ancestors we have is in fact finite you can't reach it exactly.

Also (1/3) as said is 100% absolutely rational. It happens to be non-terminating in it's decimal representation, but it is rational. In the example of running 1/3 a mile, just because you will inevitably run past or stop short of exactly 1/3 doesn't mean that the point does not physically exist. In fact by definition of a continuous line segment there must be a point = 1/3 the distance of said segment.
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Fucking Billinghall - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:52:07 EST ID:sPd/0oB/ No.7466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7465
this
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Nicholas Pemmlesit - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:51:59 EST ID:BgRBA1g7 No.7467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7465
Also...
I like to think of the physical representation of fractions even non terminating in terms of folding paper or some other mechanical representation. For 1/3 you could take a piece of paper and if you can perfectly fold it in a tri-fold then each section will be exactly 1/3. An analogous representation for pi would be, as far as I know , impossible.
You could try to perfectly sketch a circle with a definite radius, but then to obtain pi you would have to perfectly measure the circumference which is impossible, since it would be irrational (2 r pi), or reverse that pi having a definite circumference with an irrational radius, either way your fucked. Non terminating, non repeating = impossible to measure / represent exactly in the physical world = irrational.


line tangent to two functions by Cyril Fengerdale - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:13:15 EST ID:x+XnKPK6 No.7455 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hello /math/
i've come with a hopefully simple problem. if i have two functions, say
a(x)=x^2
b(x)=-(x-4)^3 - x^2

how would i find the slope of a line that was tangent to both functions? i tried getting the derivative of both functions, picking a point on one function, finding the slope with the derivative of that function, and then finding the point on the other function using the other derivative by setting it equal to the aforementioned slope. Hopefully that all made sense.
However, that didn't work because, well, just because two lines have identical slopes doesn't mean they're the same line.
so, what would I have to do?
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Cornelius Hellerdad - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:04:51 EST ID:YYZn2mX9 No.7459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i guess u would make derivatives equal to eachother and solve for x? that would be the point to use? fuck i dunno man im drunk
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Isabella Grimson - Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:57:26 EST ID:Dn4zhXKX No.7461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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construct an equation for the tangent line at arbitrary point (c, a(c))
and another at (d, b(d))

using point-slope form, you'd get
(y-a(c)) / (x-c) = a'(c)
(y-b(d)) / (x-d) = b'(d)
solve for y

now you want those two equations to be describing the same line, so equate coefficients to get two equations in two unknowns, c and d.
Solve for c and d.

c is the x-coordinate where the common tangent intersects a(x), and d is the x-coordinate where the common tangent intersects b(x).


Missing formula? by Polly Pummlenune - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:57:22 EST ID:vpYrdtL8 No.7436 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was given this exercise in class today and I'm pretty sure the prof missed out on a necessary formula to solve it.

Find the equation for the tangent that crosses the circle represented by (x - 2)^2 + y^2 = 10 at point (1, -3)

Here's what I did:

from (x - 2)^2 + y^2 = 10 I got that the center point of the circle is (-2, 0) and the radius is root of 10

using m = y - y1 / x - x1 I got the slope of the radius: (-3 - 0) / 1 + 2 = -3/3 = -1
and knowing that a tangent is perpendicular to the radius of a circle, I know that the slope of the tangent will be the opposite of the slope of the radius, and therefore, 1.

Now, the other formulas I got from the book was: x^2 + (mx + b)^2 = r^2 where m is the slope, and b is the y intercept.
and I also know that the general equation for a straight line is: Ax + By = C

I was focusing on this problem for so long and have no idea on how to solve it. Here's where I'm stuck and am probably doing something wrong.
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Polly Pummlenune - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:01:43 EST ID:vpYrdtL8 No.7437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there's also the formula y = mx + b but I'm not really sure if you need it for this exercise, I tried substituting values in that equation too and got nowt.
Now I remember why I hate maths
nobump
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Polly Pummlenune - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:15:57 EST ID:vpYrdtL8 No.7438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
deeeerp, I looked it up. It was using the y = mx + b to find b. I just didn't know that b is what I was trying to get and I wasn't supposed to substitute that with anything. Fuck I'm an idiot.
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Faggy Becklestock - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:15:52 EST ID:MEs3dYhK No.7441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you could also use awesome calculus. expanding the binomial, you get x^2 -4x+4 + y^2 = 10. Differentiating, you get 2x - 4 + 2y(dy/dx) = 0 . than, you reqwrite to geth (dy/dx) = (4-2x) / (2y) . so the slope of the tangent line at (1,-3) = (4-(2))/(2*-3) = -2/6 = -1/3 . so than the equation is y = (-1/3)x + b . we have point (1,-3) so -3 = (-1/3)(1) + b. So b= -8/3 and y = (-1/3) x -8/3
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Shitting Wallerstatch - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:33:19 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7441
Yeah, that's how I would have done it,.


Hows my math? by Edward Huzzlemerk - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:07:32 EST ID:+frCiN8T No.7432 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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2 bottles ROBOTUSSIN; 118ml EACH BOTTLE = 236ml
10 mg DXM per 5mL teaspoon
236mL/5mL = 47.2mL doses for both bottles TOTAL
47.2 x 10 = 472 Total mg of DXM

From Taima
>Usenet recommends: 463.97mg 4th plateau

am i hittin dat 4rth baby??
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Sophie Bunstone - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:51:32 EST ID:l1meLf61 No.7433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you asking us if 472 is more than 463.97?
The answer is yes.
Is there anything else we can help you with?
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Graham Chollerspear - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:46:26 EST ID:+lfi0277 No.7434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol
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Isabella Nicklefield - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:40:19 EST ID:+frCiN8T No.7435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
actually i was asking whether any of my short hand was incorrect; the different standards had me wondering

God damn it you are SO fucking clever sophie :DDDDD<3333<33ad lekvwevwrvw
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Simon Sashbot - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:51:12 EST ID:Iq0O1VPN No.7439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7432

ml/ml= unitless
ml/ml/per dose = per dose

http://dxm.darkridge.com/calc.html go back to /psy/ or /dis/
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Edward Crundlefield - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:22:29 EST ID:DSlvze7L No.7440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your not going to reach 4th with that little. 700 - 800mg is a 4th plateau dose. you will reach low 3rd with that dose


Golden ratio Project - Part II by Hastur - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:22:26 EST ID:olFi61uq No.7407 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, /math/:
I recently took down the measurements of several people's faces: lenght of nose, width of lips, space between eyes, all in cm.
My question is: how do i get the golden ratio from those numbers?
Please help.
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I thought I said this already - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:09:11 EST ID:G7PEkMJO No.7424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7407
  1. Take a length you measured.
  2. Multiply it by the golden ratio.
  3. See if it comes close to another length you measure.
  4. ???
  5. Turn it in.
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David Pickbury - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:34:56 EST ID:JqzVe0Aw No.7425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What you can do is calculate the Fibonacci sequence and calculate approximations successive for the golden ratio using the ratio of two successive numbers. (You have to stop at some value the numbers get large pretty quickly)

Then take all possible ratios between the numbers you measured. (Write down a table)
Then divide those ratios with the approximations of the golden ratio. Mark the number closet to one.
The further down the list the mark is the closer you are to the golden ratio.
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Beatrice Meshdock - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:12:31 EST ID:m5EocgVX No.7429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Beatrice Meshdock - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:13:25 EST ID:m5EocgVX No.7430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nathaniel Govingbet - Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:03:59 EST ID:DrFmPZ7Y No.7431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7407
>>7407

nigga you is dumb


Surjectivity/Injectivity and Natural Numbers by William Blemmlenure - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:08:15 EST ID:FIq8uB66 No.7426 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /math/,

If a function that maps from the natural numbers to the natural numbers is surjective, then is it also injective?

I'm thinking that the answer is yes, but I'm having difficulty coming up with a proof for it.

Any help would be really appreciated.
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William Bressleludge - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:24:04 EST ID:ufNhuFq9 No.7427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're having trouble with the proof because one does not exist.
Consider: f(x) = x/2, when x is even, f(x) = 0 when x is odd.


Discrete math by Molly Hablingworth - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:23:05 EST ID:hiR5veqa No.7422 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /math/

I seem to be sucking real hard at discrete mathematics which is one of my required courses this semester for computer science. I'm coming to you for some help. What is the best material out there for thoroughly learning this stuff?

Your help is much appreciated.
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Lillian Chellyville - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:28:38 EST ID:v5ANLcuc No.7423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i learned it by actually reading my textbook.

not trying to sound sarcastic or something because that's what i did.


Height by Lyol Werner - Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:28:36 EST ID:NtRf1Aeb No.7360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How tall is this house?
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Whitey Clinnerfield - Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:43:26 EST ID:m5EocgVX No.7381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
one story.
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Faggy Poshcocke - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:54:28 EST ID:fuxc93L5 No.7395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It looks like an interesting challenge, but I'm not up to it. Anyone else? I'll award internets to see it solved!
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Lyol Werner - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:04:06 EST ID:NtRf1Aeb No.7400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>7395
Thia is really sweet! Well, I'm going to gut out the inside of the house and fix the exterior up. The attic is rather well kept and I plan to use that for my office and studio space. The place has a of history too, which makes it even groovier. I'm just trying to estimate approx measurements. 20 ft sounds close enough...
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Jack Tillingson - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:23:38 EST ID:wirOBWTO No.7409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just use the measurement of the license plate as a reference scale, the guesstimate.
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Charles Fobbershit - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 09:55:21 EST ID:82uDS7g+ No.7421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried to define the major faces of the house in a vector image software, using vanishing points to align the lines. Using this I could find a ratio for the highest point relative to the top of the window frames. If they're aligned with the top of the door, and the door is 6 ft 8 inches as Molly said, I get 19 feet for the highest point, not counting the foundation.

I don't think my answer is necessarily more accurate, but two independently determined and closely corresponding answers are better than one, right?


Surface by Emma Gerryfidging - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:04:49 EST ID:LFUhSvVn No.7410 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do I get the surface of the areas to which this block is attached to ?
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Hedda Gamblemuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:22:49 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You aught to be more specific, you mean the 50 by 80 cm faces on the bottom and the top? Area is just one side times the other, so each is 50*80 square cm or 0.8*0.5 square metres.

If you mean the area of the squares/rectangles bound by dotted edges, it'd rely to some degree on guesswork.
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Emma Gerryfidging - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:55:05 EST ID:LFUhSvVn No.7412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7411
I mean the areas bound by the dotted edges. Are you positive that it needs guesswork (this was taken from what can be compared to an SAT or ACT in the states, basically final exam sheet) ?
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James Gedgespear - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:50:50 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, there could be measurement done, but there's no absolute mathematical answer; seems like a silly question to me, or at least not something I'd expect in high school.

Basically you'd be relying on the use of ruler, and that's about all they'd be testing.
Just use the edge lines of the top of the cuboid as guides and measure the edges themselves along with the total distances between the opposite dotted lines, then use the numbers they've given you to find the scale of the picture.

If you've recently been learning about inaccuracies of measurement, it's possible what they're actually looking for is understanding, manipulation and possibly minimisation of said inaccuracies.
If you don't know what I'm talking about then it probably isn't that, but it would make much more sense for it to be in a high school level test..
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Wesley Puppershit - Sun, 19 Feb 2012 06:58:07 EST ID:l1meLf61 No.7420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is not enough information to work out the areas of the two dotted rectangles at the top and bottom. The only way to do it would be to do as James suggests, but checking the dimensions givens shows that the image is not to scale so that wouldn't work either.


Vague Integral Problem by Hedda Gamblemuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:39:18 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7402 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Had this problem (pic related) in a recent exam and was pretty much stumped.
Made a few guesses and tried my best (will upload that pic in reply), but the effort was in vain.
I'd really like to get it one way or another, seems like it might be simple enough once I can get a handle on all the variables, but it's just so... convoluted.

tl;dr halp? All ideas, suggestions and little niggles at the back of your skull are welcome.
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Hedda Gamblemuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:40:01 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My attempt.
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Martha Snodshaw - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 02:44:23 EST ID:ufNhuFq9 No.7404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Hedda Gamblemuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:32:02 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hmm. So (going by your working) I had the correct w(y) function and parameters, and the problem was that I didn't realise the first y in the formula was being treated as a variable rather than the stated constant/maximum depth... urg.

Not saying it was badly worded, more like I was stupid. <.<
It was a y in an integrand with respect to y. How did I miss that. xD

I'll go back over it and see if I get the same answer as you this time, thanks.
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Hedda Gamblemuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:06:12 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Difference of 2/3, I'll put it down to rounding.


lambert by Fucking Tootgold - Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:07:14 EST ID:x+XnKPK6 No.7389 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how do I solve this? i'm stuck.
ln(e)=1
i understand i've got to use W after i have y=Xe^X, but i don't know how to get the coefficient and the exponents the same
writing out every step would really mean a lot to me, thanks so much
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Graham Denkinwill - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:56:17 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.7394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It can be done in one step from where you are.
But since using the Lambert W function is so different from most solving methods, I'll go easy on you and pull it apart.

First look at the x coefficients, what would have to be done to both sides for them to equal?
To make the power the same you'd have multiply in e^(x ln2 +3x), but since that would put x terms on the other side of the equation it's not likely to do you any good.
To get the x coefficient in the e multiplier the same you'd just have to multiply both sides by -1/3 ln2.
Now the power and multiplier only differ by a constant, so it's easy to resolve via the power ie. multiplying in e^(1/3 ln2).

In the end all it took was a modification by one term: -1/3 ln2 e^(1/3 ln2)
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Fucking Tootgold - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:01:05 EST ID:x+XnKPK6 No.7396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7394
i feel really really stupid. thank you, really. <3 (:
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George Morringbanks - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:04:38 EST ID:Y7EfoA8L No.7397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what class/subject is this for?
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Fucking Tootgold - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:42:40 EST ID:x+XnKPK6 No.7398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>7397
oh, none tbh
i'm in college, taking precalculus (lol) and in my boredom/experimentation, i came across equations which i couldn't solve with basic logarithms
i did some reading and learned about the lambert W function and a bit of how to use it, but got stuck on this one equation when practicing. i still don't fully understand it.. but at least i can kind of solve them.

in my opinion, they're really nice equations because they teach how to manipulate the coefficients and exponents, instead of just shifting/adding/dividing/etc.ing things from the sides to isolate your variable.
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Fucking Tootgold - Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:16:32 EST ID:x+XnKPK6 No.7401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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finished, if anyone cared



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