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Nukes, paintings, canvasses and math by Hedda Suddlebat - Thu, 10 May 2012 18:25:58 EST ID:TIt7ME+N No.8356 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I have a painting of the Trinity nuke test already made on a 30x24 canvas, how big does the second canvas have to be to fit a properly scaled Tzar Bomba explosion on to it?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
>by the way, the 50 mt design, not the originally designed 100 mt design

If you guys feel like more calculating, well, feel free to pick any other nuclear explosion.
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Phineas Fuckinggold - Fri, 11 May 2012 03:10:21 EST ID:KCZJSqcb No.8362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this could help

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


/psy/s and /math/ by James Clunnerbanks - Fri, 04 May 2012 23:49:31 EST ID:YDu+jK6j No.8290 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was wondering - how relevant have psychedelics been for you, /math/?
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Simon Bagglechon - Wed, 09 May 2012 01:16:56 EST ID:nhMuDCF1 No.8335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Math and psys are awesome, I like thinking of what causes the visual patterns and trying to recognize any thing that is iterating itself. Right after a big linear algebra lecture on vector spaces I was tripping on shrooms thinking that it is very possible that my perception of 3d space is limited. I liked thinking of multiple dimensions and assigning things like time and color to the new spaces to try to conceive extra dimensions. Fun stuff
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Ernest Chuggleridge - Thu, 10 May 2012 13:36:40 EST ID:+5QIUVXO No.8354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been smoking salvia often and some of the trips help me visualize the fourth and beyond spacial dimensions. This helps a lot because I just finished linear algebra in university and thats all we ever talk about
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Jenny Hishlen - Thu, 10 May 2012 22:24:09 EST ID:YDu+jK6j No.8359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8354
heh, I'm finishing linear algebra right now as well

I'll admit, salvia trips do hint at some extra-dimensional voodoo, but I'm not convinced anyone could leave a trip with an extra understanding of higher-dimensional visualization...
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Oliver Tillingspear - Thu, 10 May 2012 22:26:37 EST ID:TIt7ME+N No.8360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8359
I'd say salvia simply obliterates your idea of solidity. Space becomes really weird when floor, ceiling and wall all become sky.
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Jack Fullymetch - Tue, 15 May 2012 14:11:15 EST ID:rrsN4T8P No.8394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8315 lol


What if the Tractatus? by Alice Gittingworth - Thu, 03 May 2012 04:46:57 EST ID:O3gvaMED No.8269 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If language functioned like the Tractatus says it should function, would we be better off?

Or does language need to not follow strict logical codes like mathematics?
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Fuck Crecklelock - Thu, 03 May 2012 23:27:06 EST ID:v0Uhj7ba No.8281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying Wittgenstein didn't say that the tractacus was flawed
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Ernest Blollerhat - Wed, 09 May 2012 22:44:30 EST ID:O3gvaMED No.8347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8281

Not implying anything of the sort. Just asking a question.
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Cedric Sundlefoot - Thu, 10 May 2012 20:43:40 EST ID:CXMGVKak No.8358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8269
If language worked like that, could we have things like poetry or beautiful prose? Obviously, beautiful proofs exist, but it's a different kind of beauty, and I think ithe poetic beauty would be lost in a tractatus-like language.

Think of how flat metaphors would be.

I admit I don't have too firm a grasp on the Tractatus, though. I love Philisophical Investigations.


Simple Question by noko - Wed, 02 May 2012 12:35:30 EST ID:IRRlV3Te No.8253 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I have a dice, and I throw there is a chance of 1 in 6 it will be 6.

If I throw 6, what is the chance of the second time I throw the dice that it will be 6 again?
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Lillian Binkinwater - Sun, 06 May 2012 22:01:46 EST ID:OKgwmFXW No.8314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
while(true)
>>8313
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Anony-mouse - Tue, 08 May 2012 05:17:28 EST ID:agSenwLx No.8324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The easiest way to think of this is to break it down into two different situations. If you are looking at the odds of getting 6 twice in a row before you have rolled the die the odds are 1/36. This is bcause you have a 1/6 chance of getting a 6 the first time and IF successful you can roll again for another 1/6 chance. To add these odds up you multiply the denominators (bottom numbers) and the nominators (top numbers). 1/6 and 1/6 -- 1x1 / 6x6 -- 1/36.
If you are looking at the second roll after the first the chance is not impacted by the previous roll. While it seems unlikely you will get another 6 the odds are actually exactly the same.
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Cornelius Shittingfield - Thu, 10 May 2012 04:13:02 EST ID:yelwYbSp No.8349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How are all you people getting 1/12?

The chance of getting one six on one dice is 1/6
The chance of getting at least one six on two dice is 1/3
The chance of getting exactly one six on two dice is 5/36
The chance of getting two sixes on two dice is 1/36
The chance of getting a six on the second dice given that you already got a six on the first dice is 1/6

None of these are 1/12.
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Nigger Gonningfadging - Thu, 10 May 2012 05:56:29 EST ID:OmJM05dM No.8350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8349
Only 2 people got twelve. And they got it because they didn't think it through. 1/12 is a more intuitive answer (I thought it was 1/12 too tbh, before reading 1/36 and think lol I'm retarded).

Anyway yea,
the odds of rolling a 6 are always 1/6,
the odds of rolling a 6 twice in a row are 1/36.
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Priscilla Crublingsure - Thu, 10 May 2012 12:16:15 EST ID:82uDS7g+ No.8353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> 1/12 is a more intuitive answer
Your intuition is broken. When I first read those answers, my intuition spewed its coffee before I even had a chance to think about what it should be.


Help me solve this equasion by Edwin Camblebure - Tue, 08 May 2012 11:19:22 EST ID:N9sjpEyq No.8326 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup guys,
I came across this equasion
k*e^6-k+1-e^(2k)=0
and im wondering how to solve it without a calculator.
dealin with the e^(2k) is a pain in the ass
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Hannah Murdwill - Tue, 08 May 2012 18:07:53 EST ID:Y5Xsbcjn No.8329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could you write that out with more spaces and brackets, because I'm trying to take a crack at it but I wanna make sure I got it down proper
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Eugene Bloshfuck - Wed, 09 May 2012 07:31:43 EST ID:aUqqmy2I No.8337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>8329
Here you go
Made picture of it
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Eugene Bloshfuck - Wed, 09 May 2012 07:32:41 EST ID:aUqqmy2I No.8338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8337
Made *a picture of it
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Angus Garrychirk - Wed, 09 May 2012 11:44:23 EST ID:ZUCeXmgi No.8339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is how to put it in.

( ( k ) * ( e ˆ 6 ) ) - k + 1 - ( e ˆ ( 2 k ) ) = 0
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Angus Garrychirk - Wed, 09 May 2012 11:52:19 EST ID:ZUCeXmgi No.8340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8339
pic related


an inverted reality by Thomas Mottingfuck - Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:14:33 EST ID:eqQUVJzC No.8182 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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as of late i've been thinking some weird stuff that has led me to believe that there is an inverted perspective to the universe, possibly with its own sort of forces and particles.

what if infiniteness and infinitesimalness converge? the big bang was a central point at which time all matter was as close as possible. but from the opposite perspective this would be as far away as possible. in our perspective the universe was at its smallest back then. now everything is exploding outward, and eventually everything will be as far from that center point as possible, and the universe will be considered as big as it has ever been. but what if you were to consider this outermost reaches of the universe where all matter will eventually be as a point itself? what if once the universe reaches this point, it inverts itself? the infinite vastness would rebecome infinite smallness and explode outward (or inward) and return to it's original point. or maybe after exploding outward again it develops into a completely different universe? if the universe eventually inverts its own direction, shouldn't we at this point be considering the truths of the alternative perspective to our current universe?

the problem is that i'm having trouble envisiong this inversion. if there was a central point of infinitesimalness and a circumference representing infiniteness, and a circle was drawn around the center and within the circumference, and then you flipped those two points, the circle would remain the same, i think. but other shapes? i can't even imagine it and i don't know how.
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Martin Fomblefield - Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:42:35 EST ID:eqQUVJzC No.8215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8201
>If the big bang happened at point a, then all matter is still at point a, and point a is everywhere. Space itself is what expanded.
well yeah. another way of looking at it is that space didn't expand at all, but the matter at point a got much smaller, as it was exploding within the space of point a. when i said everything moves to point b, i'm not talking about an actual point as much as i'm just talking about point a's space expanding (or the matter contracting) and the matter moving away from it's center.

>there's no reason for the universe to contract inwards by gravity, the rate of its expansion is increasing.
but that is what i'm saying. the universe is expanding and currently our explanation is dark energy, right? well what if this dark energy is basically antigravity. as the pieces of the universe separate further from each other and move outward, of course they will begin to move faster, as the force of dark energy or whatever gets stronger.

>At the instant before the big bang - that is, if you could define such a point in time before the natural architecture of time was instantiated - then the universe as we know it would have been of zero dimension. In other words, the universe wouldn't have been "as small as possible" since there would have been no basis for defining such a state of being. That's the problem with using current mathematical thought to analyze a system - or, rather, a singularity - that is not well-behaved in any conceivable sense: reality as we know it breaks down when considering such an idea.
yeah that's why it seems more appropriate to me to consider the point of the big bang to be a point of infinitesimalness. because it doesn't have any dimensions, but there is still something there. my way of thinking about it is that just as .999.. = 1, doesn't .000... = 0?
>Moreover, what are we to say of causality during a time before time? Is not time the underlying force which begets all change? Is not time the quantity upon which all scientific notion is based? This leads us to the logical conclusion that there exist two distinct realms: all things after and including the Big Bang and all things (or, rather, the infinite singularity before - and by "before" I mean "besides") the Big Bang. How do we go from one state of being to the other?
causality seems like a bit of a paradox to me, but the universe seems to do things regardless of whether or not it makes sense to us. in order to get from point a to point b, you must travel through infinitesimalness. it seems impossible but it appears to do it regardless. but what if you are also traveling through infinity at the same time? if that were true, would it make it any less of a paradox? maybe we aren't really moving at all no matter how much it looks like we are. we are only seeing everything from one side, on the other side we are moving the opposite amount.
my theory on time before time is this. point a and point b are both points of complete expansion and complete contraction. in order for all the matter to get to point a, it had to enter a point of timelessness, and when it exploded it left that timelessness. this makes no sense on its own. but from point b's perspective, this moment where everything was all in one place appeared to be the moment where everything was as far from one place as it could be, and in that moment there was still time.
>There are insurmountable technical problems when considering a transition from a finite Universe to an infinitesimal Singularity as you have done. Going from nothing to something is easy: since anything can happen, then something must happen. But going from something to nothing is difficult: if something must happen, then how can nothing happen?
i think what i just said might be an explanation. because when everything was infinitesimal, it was also the size of the universe at its greatest.
>>8204
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Nathaniel Blottingspear - Tue, 01 May 2012 10:02:19 EST ID:MiWZ3AKi No.8240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8215
whoa massive tldr;
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Samuel Buzzbury - Tue, 08 May 2012 01:02:34 EST ID:gSSZvzW1 No.8321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Isn't possible that there is matter with a negative mass, that is on the edges of the universe since it is repelled by our mass?
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Shit Wobblelotch - Tue, 08 May 2012 19:11:45 EST ID:82uDS7g+ No.8330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8182
> the big bang was a central point at which time all matter was as close as possible.
The Big Bang theory is a model of the expansion of the universe from dense and hot to what we see today and into the future. It breaks down in the earliest moments - it doesn't describe a singularity and it isn't a first event.

>>8202
> the instant before the big bang
This phrase is self-contradictory. If you view the Big Bang as a primordial event, there is no instant before it. However, it's moot because we have no theory of an original event.

> reality as we know it breaks down when considering such an idea.
Reality remains unaffected, it's our theories that break down. A singularity is a gap in a theory.

> there exist two distinct realms: all things after and including the Big Bang and all things (or, rather, the infinite singularity before - and by "before" I mean "besides") the Big Bang.
The ontology of the theory defines only one realm - that which you refer to as "after". The complement of this domain is not defined or implied.

>>8215
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Sophie Sedgeworth - Tue, 08 May 2012 19:31:33 EST ID:KWOGtcXG No.8331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dr. Thomas Mottingfuck, laddies and gentlemen!


here u go by Clara Cockledock - Sat, 05 May 2012 23:17:48 EST ID:U0Vu75L1 No.8298 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is all you need to solve the worlds math problems!
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Nell Bliddlehadge - Sat, 05 May 2012 23:36:58 EST ID:V0N1pobx No.8300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Of course! Thats just what I've been missing this whole time! A cheat-sheet for high school level math, how could I not have thought of that myself? Thank you good sir
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Sophie Pombledock - Sun, 06 May 2012 01:38:35 EST ID:zj4pWrXX No.8302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
STOP THE PRESSES!
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Betsy Blindlewill - Sun, 06 May 2012 02:37:48 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.8304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What, no calculus formulae or trig identities? >>8300 was wrong, that doesn't even cover high school, let alone anything university level.

I remember 95% of what's on there anyway.
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Jarvis Dreddledock - Mon, 07 May 2012 23:15:55 EST ID:K+mrKlTi No.8318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8298
DOOD I was just abut to post dis but i trned in myy allgebra 2 book on acident LOL
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Hugh Hovingwadge - Tue, 08 May 2012 01:01:58 EST ID:ZhzReTvI No.8320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What no Laplace transforms? How are you going to do anything useful?


Been up all night... by Hugh Drumblepone - Mon, 07 May 2012 08:24:54 EST ID:zYPtmFs4 No.8316 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok so I've been trying to integrate this function all night {pic related}. I can expand it into (e^-2x)(x^2)+(2e^-x)(x)+1. Now i'm having real difficulties integrating this by parts. can some intelligent person step me through this a bit? I've been awake for almost 26 hours so my brains not working as well as it possibly could.
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Betsy Crunderdut - Mon, 07 May 2012 15:30:10 EST ID:l1meLf61 No.8317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8316
I'll assume that you've set up the integral properly and just help you with the integration then.
You pretty much want to integrate the three terms separately. Starting with (e^-2x)(x^2); perform integration by parts, giving you another integral which can again be evaluated by parts, which then gives you a trivial integral to evaluate in the last step.
The same can be done for the second term, (2e^-x)(x), but you only need to evaluate by parts once, and the final term, 1, is trivial to integrate.
The answer I got was, (1/4)(e^-2x)(-2x^2 -2x -1) -2e^-x(x +1) +x +c, for you to check against.
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Samuel Buzzbury - Tue, 08 May 2012 00:55:48 EST ID:gSSZvzW1 No.8319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think its possible to explain it in better terms than >>8317
Just want to confirm that he hit it on the nose.


Sierpinski Triangle by Hamilton Sebberhack - Wed, 02 May 2012 14:16:23 EST ID:JIh5SpdJ No.8257 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's the significance of this triangle? It seems like it involves very complicated algorithms involving graphic design and mathematics that I don't understand yet.

The reason why I ask is that I figured out how to draw it effortlessly, without overlapping any lines or lifting my pencil off of the paper, by following a very simple and measurable pattern. When I draw it, it seems ridiculously simple, but when I do any research on it, it's ridiculously complicated.

Any input would be appreciated.
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Basil Drogglesat - Thu, 03 May 2012 15:19:55 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.8275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well it's best to just go over how Pascal's triangle works in your head or on paper, the properties of each number propagate out to two numbers when they go down. When an even number is beside another even number, their sum will be even, as with two odd numbers, but when an even and an odd number are side by side they will produce an odd number.
If it so happens that the first few lines set the pattern up right (which they do), then it can only continue along the fractal pattern.

1
1 1
1 2 1
1 3 3 1
1 4 6 4 1
1 5 10 10 5 1
1 6 15 20 15 6 1
etc.
The secret is the way that any set of side-by-side of even numbers will be surrounded by odd numbers, which will cause them to reduce in length by one each row, forming downwards pointing triangles.
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Basil Drogglesat - Thu, 03 May 2012 15:28:17 EST ID:AnBeLn0m No.8276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was meant to be "The secret is the way that any set of side-by-side even numbers" ... Not that it matters.

The numbers in Pascal's triangle are binomial coefficients, if you want a much more indepth look at how this makes it work, try reading this:
http://ecademy.agnesscott.edu/~lriddle/ifs/siertri/Pascalmath.htm
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Lydia Socklehit - Fri, 04 May 2012 04:57:00 EST ID:MiWZ3AKi No.8284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>8275
Thanks I see what you mean now.
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Molly Sannerforth - Sun, 06 May 2012 17:50:28 EST ID:sPd/0oB/ No.8310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>8271
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Barnaby Shittingforth - Sun, 06 May 2012 19:38:39 EST ID:J7IKuhJt No.8312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Check out the construction of Cantor's "middle-thirds" set. The triangle is the same thing, just in 2 dimensions.

What is its significance? Not much, really, it's just a funny set, although it might arise in dynamical systems. Or as an example of something with non-integer dimension.

>Lay out Pascal's triangle
Terrible way to do it really. Unless you want to cover a football pitch with Pascal triangle


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Wow, my brain is exploding from this shit. People crying about their calculus homework have never seen what life is really about, I say.


Academic Math - how do I grasp it? by Frederick Cidgelock - Fri, 04 May 2012 18:21:35 EST ID:kkD/CRrE No.8289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am currently preparing for the first exam in the introductory phase for a Bachelor in Mathematics.

The general rule is to learn to learn from the 'proper' notation, grammar, whatever directly. Not to learn it with the naive (read high school math) use.

As an example getting my head around what Quaternions and Octonions are is straight forward checking what Groups are is almost bearable but trying to understand groups of finite order are seems totally out of reach. And that division algebras tie into them seems like arcane wizardry.

At this point I can't really see how I ever will be able to understand something just by the notation and a few supplementary sentences. They tell me I will get used to it, but how can you get used to an infinite amount of abstraction building up around you as soon as you read the abstract of a simple paper?

I have thought about learning this like a new language, each kind of notation a new word. But that seems somewhat ineffective. I really want a system which can be used consistently later on and this seems not it.
With high school math there always was plenty of explanations.
learning by doing.

This is gone. I need a substitute.
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Lillian Futtingfoot - Sat, 05 May 2012 21:52:16 EST ID:FZN0V5Ld No.8297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Behind the abstract definitions there's always a concrete idea. Usually it gets hidden by the language (the way you write math and the way you think about math are usually quite different). When you first encounter a new definition and don't understand it yet, try just rolling with it. Follow the logic of it, and don't worry about it too much. As you work examples involving the ideas, the ideas behind the definitions begin to make sense.

Usually definitions in math are some of the hardest things to understand (when I was an undergraduate I always thought it was the theorems, but I realize now I was mistaken.) For example, take compactness in topology. Why do we define it this way? Because it gives me Heine-Borel theorem, which we'd expect, but it also gives us Tychonoff theorem, which we'd like to be true as well. Usually definitions are motivated by a certain result we want to achieve, and thus they can seem very abstract and obtuse at first glance. After you get at the idea they're meant to capture, it's not so bad, though.


Hey guys by Augustus Horringwell - Fri, 04 May 2012 12:22:47 EST ID:d+CKoml8 No.8287 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just recently got finished with my college exams and am starting my summer vacation. The only thing is, I want to stay active in learning over the summer.

I decided I would download and print off ebooks to study in Business Finance or Real Estate Finance, but I'm having a hard time finding a book that is more school-based where it has Chapters, Reviews, Practice Problems etc.

Do you guys know of anywhere on the internet I could find something like that? The main subjects I'm looking for are advanced finance, mathematics, statistics, or anything vaguely involving math. The only thing that is necessary is that they MUST have practice problems (It's really hard for me to learn without them).

Thanks for reading!
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Frederick Cidgelock - Fri, 04 May 2012 15:23:17 EST ID:kkD/CRrE No.8288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
learn2google
site:your.institutes.webserver.edu filetype:pdf intitle:"optimal topic"

>vaguely involving math.
So you study finance?
Good riddance, walk across campus into that tiny building labeled "institute of mathematics" and ask the people hanging around there what they suggest.
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Cornelius Mankinhood - Sat, 05 May 2012 19:08:05 EST ID:CXMGVKak No.8295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could try here: http://library.nu/



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