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Deciphering encrypted messages by Ebbo Mbtu - Fri, 05 Apr 2013 20:36:15 EST ID:7leimP2o No.11273 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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About 2 months ago I recieved a text message from a random number that made no sense whatsoever. I paid no heed however, until I recieved another one from another number a month later. It was written in a similar manner so it got my attention. I forgot about it, but I just remembered. I did some googling and I can't find anything on it. I thought maybe there's a hobbiest cryptographer on /math/ so I'll post them here, maybe you can make some sense of it.
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Ebbo Mbtu - Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:22:04 EST ID:7leimP2o No.11278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11274
Oh wow, I didn't post it did I? This was the first message:

Hyati ma tamench ch3al
twahecktek W rah f galbi
bah nchoufek Nsit ma
gotlekch beli mama rayha
techrina micro sayi fatetha
la prime w wesat khali
mamer Biz

And this is the other:
r zon d tucrwk samf
pamal dvwr mafy Dfw san
couch ni dl pask Gpal
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Grattle - Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:18:22 EST ID:XQCSWhl+ No.11280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11278
In the secons message, s8 is mentioned twice, leading me to believe that the letters are scrambled and directly replaced with other letter, but the words are not, the second one beginning
>r zon d tucrwk samf
r and d must be either the words A or I.
Since the word directly following "A" must be a noun,
"A cat I" doesn't make any sense.
Therefore, it must be "I (3 letter verb) a..."

Since it includes numbers but not symbols, it's not unicode (which wouldn't work great for a cellphone anyhow)
And since W and F are used in the first message and R and D in the second, they're probably 2 different versions of the same code.

Unfortunately, the word "tt" leads me to believe this is no simple code, as the only english words it could correspond to are
aa - lava
ee - eye
oo - omega/object oriented
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Graham Cropperkotch - Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:06:46 EST ID:bpNm376E No.11290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11280
You are also not taking into account that it may not be in English and that texting shorthand could have been used.
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Raul Ramirez - Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:12:21 EST ID:eyir0TJi No.11296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11290
yeah, people call me speaking spanish asking for Roberto
my name is not Roberto
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Grattle - Mon, 08 Apr 2013 18:09:46 EST ID:XQCSWhl+ No.11301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11290
I did consider other languages. It's just that english is the most common language for double letters.


Mathematical Predicate Logic by Fucking Bemmlefield - Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:26:00 EST ID:93Q2ClAW No.10840 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I haven't quite grasped the concept of mathematical predicate logic yet, I know for example:

p = “The program is faulty”
q = “I will lose my data”
r = “The disc is full”

Therefore, “In the case of a faulty program, I will lose my data if the disc is full” is:
p ∧ r ⇒ q (p AND r IMPLIES q) which is equivalent to ¬(p ∧ r) ∨ q ((NOT p AND r) OR q)

But what about this:
P(x) = “x is a person”
K(x, y) = “x knows y's business”

In predicate logic, would "Everyone knows someone's business" be ∀x • { P(x) ⇒ K(x, y) } ?
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Clear !U5Lofz42s2 - Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:50:30 EST ID:Za8gbo3B No.10845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kyle is blue, clue is a colour, kyle is a colour.
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Phoebe Clollerwere - Fri, 05 Apr 2013 16:02:41 EST ID:pagK+41n No.11270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>for every x and some y, x is a person and x knows y's business"?

For every x there exists y such that x is a person and y knows x's bsns

more intuitive would be switching y knows x's business with y is x''s parent. Then saying everyone has a parent would be exactly
∀x ∃y P(x) ⇒ K(x, y)
I think u could equivalently say
∀x such that P(x) ∃y such that K(x, y)
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Phoebe Clollerwere - Fri, 05 Apr 2013 16:16:43 EST ID:pagK+41n No.11271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh, and
>some y
is correct, but we'd rather say 'there exists y' because essentially we would want to use this y for something later, and its existence (which is often not entirely obvious) is guaranteed by this phrase, so it kind of helps to dig this intuitively.

for example a typical mathematical procedure looks like

axiom A:
people are born by other people
lemma 1.1
"for every person x there exists y such that y is x's parent"
proof
suppose x is a person that has no parents. by axiom A people are born by other people. contradiction.

lemma1.2
"if you go back in time sufficiently far and kill someones parent, he will cease to exist"
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Ferp Rickelderp - Sat, 06 Apr 2013 02:35:02 EST ID:70Fjp38W No.11276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10845
Kyle has an attribute that is blue, blue is a color, kyle has an attribute that is a color. Or is it colour...


Basic trig by Ernest Crobblepere - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:15:26 EST ID:VKysXSwS No.11246 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Need help, just started basic trig in geometry and I have no idea how to go through problems
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Ernest Crobblepere - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:20:13 EST ID:VKysXSwS No.11247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the 47 is the question number from the book
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Priscilla Cringershaw - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:20:03 EST ID:e8wrXv1+ No.11248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Check your book for it's given definitions. All of the arguments in the definitions should be numbers in your problems, it's your job to use algebra to solve for the unknown number.

So your book will tell you that
cos(t) = h/a
where h is the length of the hypotenuse (long side), a is the length of the adjacent side (short one), and t is the angle between them.
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Charlotte Dennershaw - Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:02:14 EST ID:vA/y00k8 No.11268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Guessing you've already learned what you need to know, but the only thing you need to remember is SOH CAH TOA. That is; Sin = O/H, Cos = A/H, and Tan = O/A, whereas O is the opposite side of the triangle to the given angle, A is the closest side that's not the hypotenus, and H is the hypotenus.

Like Priscilla said; cos(t) = h/a, you can invert the formula to find the angle; cos^-1(h/a) = t, ex. tan^-1(20/20) = 45 degrees, which makes sense since both the opposite and adjacent are the same length, so you get a right-angle triangle.

To find individual sides of the triangle, you can multiply the function by the denominator on the other side, ex. If I want to find the opposite of the aforementioned right angle triangle, knowing only the angle and adjacent, I go from...
tan(45) = o/a
tan(45)a = o


Calculus by Caroline Buzzway - Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:05:30 EST ID:ybC9Dun1 No.10013 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Alright, this one is killing me

A car moving at speed, v mph, acheieves (25+ .1v) mpg

v=50 (t / t+1)

how many gallons of gas are consumed between t=2 and t=3

i honestly have no clue where to even start on a problem like this
can somebody show me the first few steps on what to actually do here?
i know the answer is 1.25gallons, but i don't know WHY
halp?
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Henry Chovinglock - Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:14:36 EST ID:tRpsvxXa No.10014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Assuming t is in hours, gallons used equals mph/mpg.

(v)/(25+ 0.1v)

Or: (50(t / t+1))/(25+ (t / ((10) (t+1)))

(500t)/(251t+250)

Find the area under the curve from 2 to 3.

Are you sure the answer is 1.25 gallons? You'd be using more than that even if you drove at a constant t=2 speed. And you use more gas per hour as your speed increases.
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Ian Naddleletch - Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:24:03 EST ID:ufNhuFq9 No.10015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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c(t) = (25+ .1v(t)) = miles per gallon
g(t) = 1/c(t) = gallons per mile
v(t) = 50 * (t / (t+1)) = miles per hour
(gallons per mile * miles per hour)(t) = (gallons per hour)(t)
integral ((gallons per hour)(t) dt) = gallons(t)
integrate(v(t)*g(t)*dt, 2, 3) = ~1.25
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Fucking Worthinghall - Tue, 09 Oct 2012 20:23:54 EST ID:ybC9Dun1 No.10016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10013
I'm not used to math problems being more about units O. o
that seems so simple now
ty :D
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Totin Bagins - Fri, 05 Apr 2013 04:57:49 EST ID:8ey2WmI8 No.11265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10016
I just rolled the dice on random thread and appeared here. I am sorry OP I cannot answer your question as I do not take or have ever taken calc. I am going to guess and say because that is what Berry said?...


What is your favorite calculator and why? by Shit Nickleville - Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:18:30 EST ID:rN65bcH4 No.11224 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Math, what is your favorite calculator and why? what do you use it for, what features make it stand apart from others? what don't you like about it?

my preference is a casio classpad 330. several years back in a calc2 class we were given them by a casio rep to test and keep in exchange for our feedback.

split screening in graphs/tables etc is very nice, also has auto window sizing methods and shit. im a very visual person, it makes seeing things quick and easy.

my absolute favorite part is the 2d representation. you can literally build things as they look on paper, quick and easy. it makes it super easy to check your work or evaluate complicated things without having to fight with a billion parentheses.

easily evaluates integrals both definite and indefinite (not that im at all dependent but it could honestly be defined as a cheating machine), including the nasty tables that i don't care to read though. so much easier to just type it it and get an answer.

cons: bit of a learning curve to figure functionality but its a very powerful device for everything ive seen. i don't know how it compares for much more complex mathematics

highest level of math: integral calculus, some multivariable calc.

i also have a ti-86 plus and a ti-84 plus, neither of which i use.
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Alice Clirrydot - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:20:31 EST ID:bRkyPFt9 No.11242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11224
my brain
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Matilda Bracklehood - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:48:39 EST ID:3wqXKHsu No.11245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11242
Indeed the brain is a powerful tool

I was the kid who brought absolutely nothing to class, and obviously do not have a calculator. Ended up using my pure braib skills. Nowadays my ex schoolmates often get stuned by how a lazy person like me could handle crazy calculations.

So stop using your stupid calculators and figure out ways to live without them.
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Fanny Brinkinbury - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:33:07 EST ID:sPd/0oB/ No.11250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have a ti-84 plus and it's doing good so far.

I program fractals, cellular automata, labyrinth, trees and stuff with it, it's fun.
And I do the same thing on computer too, and it's fun too. I use my calculator to rapidly draw functions and check formula, or when I'm bored and I don't have a computer.
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Hannah Pinnerket - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:58:01 EST ID:oshKHsH7 No.11251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got a ti-89 like 5 or 6 years ago when I was in hs, does everything I need, I like the way it displays input helps find any mistakes I might have made
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Graham Gunningson - Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:39:53 EST ID:rzaTGV2V No.11254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a ti-89 emulator for my smart phone for anything that needs to be done on the go which is complicated... because I'm out of school that basically never happens.

Tbh, if it's not something super complicated that I need matlab/r/eviews for, I just use wolfram alpha these days. I'm pretty much always near a computer anyhow (and they have a mobile app).

tl;dr there's not really a good reason to use a calculator these days other than maybe the fact that some of them are solar powered.


Math swag by Ernest Figgleford - Sat, 30 Mar 2013 23:35:56 EST ID:0Vsdawwf No.11236 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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2 + 2 nigga
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Phoebe Nublingson - Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:43:33 EST ID:kH9Vj/61 No.11252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
four, dumbass.
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Thomas Tootgold - Tue, 02 Apr 2013 12:55:04 EST ID:g9W50kA4 No.11253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
2+2 = 5 for large values of 2
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Mr Smells - Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:48:38 EST ID:dhANKuZP No.11255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11253

Lol


Marking points by Molly Pommerfere - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 05:44:54 EST ID:0GLK5s8P No.11243 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey all
How would i accurately mark out the 2 shown points using a standard tape measure? It’s for a rolled section of tank that im working on at the moment and the engineers drawing is fucked.

any help would be greatly appreciated
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Fanny Brinkinbury - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:28:08 EST ID:sPd/0oB/ No.11249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
we need angles, your drawing lack a lot of data


Let's see how smart you guys and gals are! by Jarvis Fanstock - Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:01:06 EST ID:IjkaSP+2 No.11165 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's do a related rates problem :)

Alice and Bob are each driving a bumper care. Alice is traveling north at 20ft/sec and Bob is traveling at 15 ft/sec. Alice and Bob are on a collision course; they will run into each other when they simultaneously arrive at P.

When Alice is 4 ft from P, how far is Bob from P?

At what rate is the distance between Alice and Bob decreasing when Alice is 4 ft from P?
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Rebecca Subblewat - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:22:13 EST ID:0TFGVIYR No.11216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11166
I like a challenge though. I've had no physics above introductory classical mechanics (which did not include gravitational fields) and electricity and magnetism so if I make some mistakes please point them out I'd like try to learn how to solve a problem like this. After some googling and wolframing here's my attempt at the first part of the solution.

The north/south component of Bob's velocity would be 0.95*c*cos(10)=0.9356*c to the south.
Since relative velocity is approaching speed of light, Lorentz transformation is necessary. V relative = (v1+v2)/(v1*v2/c^2+1)= 99.26% the speed of light.
Plugging this into relative length contraction formula
L = Lo*sqrt(1-v^2/c)= 0.086 X.
So it looks like the car won't be very long from his reference point.
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Rebecca Subblewat - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:32:05 EST ID:0TFGVIYR No.11217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the time
T = To / sqrt(1-v^2/c) = 11.627* T
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Sidney Brimblelare - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:01:11 EST ID:F9AJX/Os No.11218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11217
shouldn't the gamma factor be (1-v^2/c^2)?
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Rebecca Subblewat - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:48:07 EST ID:0TFGVIYR No.11219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11218
Oh, yeah, I think you're right.
So gamma would be = 0.1214
making L = 0.1214*X
and T = 8.2352*T
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John Gecklewater - Mon, 01 Apr 2013 03:03:17 EST ID:Z8arPLrB No.11241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11218
nah dude, the lorentz factor is
(1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)), although I do believe you have a problem with your relative velocities. The y-components must be added together with the lorentz transform, but then you have to remember to add back in the x-component of bob's motion, because alices car shrinks along its axis of motion according to the lorentz factor for her TOTAL relative velocity, not just the y-components


Cube and other maths movies by Noobishnessosityable - Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:31:20 EST ID:XQCSWhl+ No.11204 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can anyone help me expand my knowledge on how the Cube movies work? I've pretty much got Cube and Cube Zero worked out, but Cube 2: Hypercube is confusing the fuck out of me. Here's some scribblings of my thoughts. I haven't written anything about the traps yet.
>pic related
If nobody here has seen these movies, I strongly recommend them.
Also, Math movies thread?
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Noobishnessosityable - Sat, 30 Mar 2013 21:46:02 EST ID:XQCSWhl+ No.11235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11207
You really have to watch the movie. They're trapped in a giant rubiks cube-esque device with 17 million some rooms and they die if they go in the wrong ones and they have to figure out mathematically if the coordinates of the room are dangerous blah blah blah it's kinda cool.
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Phoebe Grimwell - Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:50:03 EST ID:F9AJX/Os No.11237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11235
not gonna lie, those cube movies were some of the worst movies i've ever seen in my life.
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Samuel Dobbleshit - Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:57:16 EST ID:X70kgTC4 No.11238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11237
>/home/derek/Pictures/Hypercubic_Crucifixion.jpg

Blasphemer!
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Samuel Dobbleshit - Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:16:06 EST ID:X70kgTC4 No.11239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>11238
Huh, meant to copy and highlight text in the post I linked to. Ended up revealing my name and the directory to the file I posted instead. Whoops.

Happy Easter!
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Noobishnessosityable - Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:12:54 EST ID:XQCSWhl+ No.11240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11237
But they're Canadian, so that's like a normal movie in the US.


Free fall time by James Gandlekodge - Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:59:04 EST ID:EH1884Un No.11192 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm working out free fall time for a gas cloud to gravitationally fall to a point.

But I can't make sense of the last part of line 24 - could someone explain it?
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Simon Drunnershit - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:33:04 EST ID:j0YxWiKv No.11220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>11192
The first part is pretty much the definition of the second derivative. That is to say, the second derivative of with respect to t is the derivative with respect to t of the derivative of r with respect to t, (d^2r/dt^2) = (d(dr/dt)/dt) = d/dt(dr/dt).

From (23) we have that dr/dt = u(r(t)), they just use the shorthand u(r(t)) = u(r). So,
d/dt(dr/dt) = d/dt(u(r)).

The next part is just the chain rule from calculus. du/dt = (du/dr)*(dr/dt). Since multiplication is commutative this can be rewritten as (dr/dt)*(du/dr).

Using (23) again, du/dr = u(r) which they again use shorthand to write as simply u.

Thus we have (dr/dt)*(du/dr) = u*(du/dr). The last part is a little tricky, but you can think of it as just another application of the chain rule. So we have d(u^2)/dr = 2*u*(du/dr), thus multiplying by 1/2 on both sides, 1/2(d(u^2)/dr) = u*(d(u(r))/dr).
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Basil Cazzlefuck - Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:22:37 EST ID:awrx9orM No.11221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you evaluate that last term on 24 (i.e., take the derivative of u squared with respect to r), it comes up with the second-to-last term. I don't remember ever seeing that done in reverse, but it does work.


Please judge my statistics knowledge by Edwin Nattingson - Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:29:37 EST ID:3wbMWoGe No.10155 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's the level of my statistics knowledge? What academic stance is it usually associated with? Picture related. It's the mind map of my stats knowledge. I didn't include the basics (ex: chart types, etc.) for obvious reasons.
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Charles Hiblingset - Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:44:01 EST ID:MdMn7QqC No.10184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10162

Stat as a field is pretty massive. What I think you should do is google some mathematical statistics books such as An introduction to probability theory and mathematical statistics by Rohatgi, and work through it.

To truly understand statistics (not just memorizing formulas and methods) you need some real analysis (maybe a touch of topology some times) and get serious about it. The text i mentioned is going to be a graduate level text, but that will set you in the right direction to getting good stat understanding
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Whitey Clummlestet - Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:48:50 EST ID:3wbMWoGe No.10210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you all for your help.

By the way, is this a good glossary of statistics, or are many things missing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_statistics
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Phineas Ferrynadge - Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:10:41 EST ID:MdMn7QqC No.10225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>10210
Sadly i'm not getting my PhD in statistics so my opinion isn't that informed. But I think this is a good overview.

The complicated work in statistics is the methods used to improve your estimators (such as variance or a more accurate mean). Something to keep in mind
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dsa - Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:47:05 EST ID:pagK+41n No.11155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's most basic undegrad statistics. As a math student had that all covered in first year (of statistics, but we had stats introduced at our second year. I figure stat student have that in their first year, wouldn't be surprised if it was just the first semester actually)

Stuff gets more complicated after that :P Also, it diverges from advanced probability (I remember at the beginning probability and stats are about the same thing, maybe just from slightly different angles) For instance likelihood analysis, multivariate statistics, autocorrelation... Not sure if they use measure theory in stats but thats when things start to get wicked. Pretty much your mind map covers the fundamentals on which uni level stats builds
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Archie Blindlekotch - Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:53:27 EST ID:qweRvY7e No.11233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well shit, I could've saved a lot of money not buying that :/


Here's something we think you'll really enjoy! by Tatty Bojangles - Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:37:55 EST ID:XxiJ/Buk No.11195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This defines a class of numbers (yet to be named), have fun playing around with it. n and m are real; small omega is the surreal infinitesimal; i, j and k are the famed imaginary components of quaternions. Challenge: Simplify for n=2 m=1.
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Isabella Guckleset - Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:13:50 EST ID:FsCw5ks5 No.11196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
6ω² is as far as I get


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