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MDMA triggered infatuation by Ebenezer Hammerham - Mon, 03 Jul 2017 20:29:28 EST ID:FCPL0y2n No.225534 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /mdma/
This is going to be a long post. I suppose I could post this in /qq/ as well, but since MDMA is such an important part of the chain of events, I thought you could have more valuable input.
>TLDR rolled with a long time friend, things got a little out of hand, and now there is romantic / sexual tension in the air, which is not necessarily good in the slightest

Let's start with some background. I started doing drugs around five years ago. I was a little over twenty, and my first intoxicating substance was MDMA (I hadn't even tried alcohol at that point). Since then I have tried some twenty-odd substances, at times taking long breaks, but never really quitting, or wanting to. During the last year or two I really cut down on my consumption, though it never reached problematic levels.

I suffer from a number of psychological and neuropsychiatric disorders, some of them diagnosed, others not. Most importantly I should mention ADHD, delayed sleep phase, depression, and panic attacks triggered by social situations. The last two I have managed to mostly get under control with the help of MDMA and psychedelics, but the depression does flare up occasionally. I have received professional help for a decade or so, but it hasn't really helped me.

I suppose I should also mention I'm a lesbian. I don't like touting my gender or personal preferences, but it is somewhat important in understanding the dynamics of the situation I'm about to describe.

Around the time I started doing drugs, I reconnected with an old friend. We did a lot of drugs together, had some good times and soon found ourselves madly in love. She was broken, I was broken, we found solace in our own little shattered world. I was her first girlfriend, though she swore she would never date another guy, that she had only done it because of societal pressure. We moved together, had amazing adventures, lived the time of our lives. We both had relapses with our mental problems. She started getting dissociated, psychotic even. She did recover, but there was something in her, like the seed of an ice crystal growing.

Last fall I fell back into depression, and she left. She couldn't take it anymore, couldn't take care of me. The break up was ugly. There's no point to dwell on the details here, but I discovered some things about her that made me question whether I ever really knew her. She moved in with a guy, and I have reason to suspect that she had been preparing it behind my back for some time.

I have a friend, let's call her Tammy. I've known Tammy since high school. We have spent more time together since my break up. She has become very important and close to me. She also knew my ex. I could say they were good friends even (they met through me). The three of us tripped and rolled together sometimes, but Tammy was much less of a dope fiend than my ex or I.
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Ebenezer Hammerham - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:17:03 EST ID:FCPL0y2n No.225544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for reading. I was half expecting this thread to slowly sail to the thread graveyard without a single reply.

Just vomiting that maelstrom of messy thoughts here made me feel a little better. I've mostly returned to my normal routine, but I texted with Tammy, and she still seems to be walking on air. To be completely honest, I still feel some of that excited tingle as well. To make matters, if not worse then at least more interesting, we're going to a festival together next weekend. There will be drugs (no MDMA obviously), and we will sleep in the same tent. At the moment I think I'll float down stream, so to say, not trying to stop the events from unfolding, but not encouraging anything either. Enjoy the intimacy and excitement, but not try to push it to any direction, or expect anything from it. Perhaps things will fade to normalcy.

Another turn in the thickening plot is that it seem my ex might be returning to my life, albeit briefly. Not in a romantic way of course, but she'll be here, and things will get messy.

It's kind of freaky to realize how big of an impact MDMA has possibly had on my romantic relationships.
Beatrice Sammlekud - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 03:22:47 EST ID:/m4K3KzT No.225565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, it sounded like it was the drugs to me too. As for the upcoming festival, did it happen yet, if so what happened?
I'll give you my two cents anyway: Sounds like you should just hang out with Tammy stone cold sober. But I feel like it would be a bit more insightful because not only will you actually remember the conversation\interaction\date and then you can make a decision then. If the festival already happened ignore the second half of this post.
Frederick Billingbury - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 03:09:06 EST ID:FCPL0y2n No.225581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, the festival happened. I took some stims the first night, Tammy was sober. The second night we did some acid together, and smoked a little weed as well. It was an awesome festival. We really had a good time, apart from some comedown induced anxiety during the first night on my part. We were basically glued together: walked hand in hand, danced together, cuddled etc. It was cold. Like really, really cold, 3°C (~37°F) during the night. This meant we slept not only in the same tent, but indeed in the same sleeping bag. We kissed once, while on acid. I felt like the sexual tension had lifted somewhat, but the semi-romantic feelings were there still. We shared a lot of physical contact, and it felt easy and right. A hippie girl said that we looked "really cute together", which I suppose means we gave some sort of a couple vibe.

We did hang out sober after the festival too. We made dinner together, chilled, watched cartoons and cuddled. Tammy couldn't stay for the night, though she obviously wanted to. A little before she had to leave, she basically pulled me in her lap for an intense last moment snuggle. We very nearly kissed, but for some reason neither of us could make the final leap of faith.

I feel like I should clarify something at this point. We live in a small European country, and the culture is very different from the US for example. There is a great focus on personal space here. Touch isn't a part of social behavior, even between close friends. (A member of the younger generations might give a quick hug to a really good friend, but that's about it.) The level of intimacy I'm describing here is almost exclusively reserved for romantic / sexual relationships. It's just, it doesn't feel like we are in, or headed towards one.

At the moment we seem to have stabilized in a situation where we exchange a lot of physical affection, but still retain a certain distance. We did talk about our relationship sober too, and agreed that this is a good direction and pace. If things lead somewhere, well, we'll just have to see what happens then.

I do still freak out a bit about the effect MDMA has had on my relationships, and there is a nagging voice in…
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Phyllis Blottingspear - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:02:45 EST ID:evRCGhLZ No.225582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OK but remember;
You'll probably start getting more and more attached and attracted to her (especially with MD involved), whereas chances are she'll stay emotionally distant and probably not form a couple bond, merely just wanting hugs and kisses.

Like I'm a massive hypocrite for saying this, as I'm a bi gal (tho only ever had lesbian relationships) but it's real fucking rare for a "straight" girl to turn unless she's been seriously repressing some shit.
It's up to you if you wanna start distancing yourself while it's easier and you're less attached or fall deeper down the rabbit hole and hope you don't develop more feelings further down the line.
Every girl loves affection, straight or otherwise.
>She also said she was fed up with guys, and was tired of sex and sexuality.
She's wanting something with no pressure of sex, something "easy" (yes straight girls incomprehensively imagine lesbian relationships are easier than straight ones), and something that can give her comfort without the fear of it going too far.
idk maybe I'm just cynical and you two will have sweet miraculous lesbian babies with each other. But eh, I'll re-iterate my first point - it was the drugs. Don't trust straight girls lol

This has gone full /qq/ tho, shame you can't just shift an entire thread a board over.
Frederick Pumbleford - Sat, 05 Aug 2017 16:47:12 EST ID:ZLS4n6l+ No.225636 Ignore Report Quick Reply

tips and tricks because taimapedia is no longer here to help by Wesley Tootbury - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 18:48:14 EST ID:O2wSn/UX No.225593 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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going to a music festival and plan on rolling two days.

I do this once a year so I'm not super concerned with buildup of serotonin-related after effects (not used frequently enough) or overdoing it (I test my pills and research for purity/contaminants before deciding on my dose a few days beforehand).

With that intro info out of the way what is your personal recipe for success? gatorade or water?
Vitamin supplements leading up to the day?
take pill how long after a large breakfast to ensure best absorption?

I've heard some conflicting reports on these so I came here to build a little consensus. Thanks friends, have a good one.
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Shit Blillygold - Fri, 28 Jul 2017 14:07:44 EST ID:99ksgphT No.225604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My advice would be

Magnesium + B6 before rolling, helps with teeth grinding. Get Magnesium in the lactate form and don't be afraid to eat a lot of it.
Take only one booster dose, further redosing just exacerbates the negative effects.
The booster dose should be approx. 1/3rd of the initial dose, taken about 90 minutes after the first dose. I usually take 150+50.
Don't exceed 250 mg/day.
Take L-Tryptophan or 5-HPT for the night, it really does help.

But as usual, YMMV.
Jack Tillingworth - Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:39:35 EST ID:2qbtV/bR No.225610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
its fucking bad for your health to roll 2 days in a row. dont sugar coat it
William Wamblespear - Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:02:42 EST ID:abCwL3AZ No.225611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Alkaline Water (as much of a fad as it may be) is one of the most useful things you can give you body pre and post roll.
I can recommend a few supplements that are listed on rollsafe but mainly just the magnesium(calm brand or solaray brand. MAKING SURE ITS MAGNESIUM GLYCINATE IS KEY) and 5-HTP IF you really feel a crash.
If youre at a fest, stay hydrated up until you take your roll. If youve been sweating all day, a packet of emergen-c and alkaline water will bring you up almost like an actual drug. its strange.

be sure to eat a solid turkey sandwhich with a big ol glass of milk for breakfast with a banana. all of these contain 5-htp and other nutrients that your body needs after a roll.

wait til an hour and some change to roll after breakfast. dont want that shit coming right back up WITH your dose.

with that said, i believe everyone else touched important notes
dont take water until youre maybe a hour and a half into your roll( unless you NEED IT of course)
Walter Sallerchock - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 19:25:57 EST ID:mpcDVBfU No.225631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have some sort of " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub_el_Hizb ۞ " MDMA shit. How much I can do of it? I did it only one time. I think it's like 3:1 amphetamine:mdma, maybe.

Will I get too fucked up if I use this 4 times/month?
James Faggleridge - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 01:53:14 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>will I get too fucked up if I do this 4 times a month

maybe not if you only do it for one month, but probably either way

molly vs h by Eliza Duzzlehall - Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:52:17 EST ID:QDajoHAp No.225606 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How euphoric is pure MDMA in comparison to pure heroin?

I know they're a different type (one stimulant one suppressant) but which one has the greater magnitude of euphoria?
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William Sanningfire - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 08:29:26 EST ID:2qbtV/bR No.225622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the latter absolutely
Doris Claywater - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:42:36 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mdma obviously, injecting that much wouldn't be too fun though, I've only shot up md once and that was about 100mg, easily the best I've felt in my life but it's never worked that well since, heroin works every time
Caroline Brookfoot - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:51:45 EST ID:j/0zrcia No.225624 Ignore Report Quick Reply

My bad, I met to say or *ingesting* 200mg-300mg

Thank-you for answering though I always wondered if the IV rush was comparable.
Cornelius Fupperkud - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:46:07 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even orally 200-300mg of mdma will be better than heroin the first few times you do it, if you space your rolls out, don't roll multiple days in a row, and don't go over 300mg you can hang on to the magic for a while, when I shot it I had only done it maybe 20 times and it was starting to lose the magic for me by that time but only just, shooting it was the best md experience (and close to the best drug experience period) but since then it hasn't been the same, I still do it but at this point it's not this incredible thing for me, it just feels kind of like a clean, softer, meth with a little bit of a psychedelic twang, not bad but not as good as it used to be
Cornelius Fupperkud - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 21:47:48 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I meant to say it was the 20th time I'd done MDMA at all, not the 20th time I'd shot it up, I've only shot it up that one time

Raves by Nell Borringhood - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:23:21 EST ID:gUBU+Qv2 No.225567 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do i find a place where people are rolling and jumping to a music like this
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Emma Pittwill - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 02:42:54 EST ID:rrV1G7f7 No.225594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone know how strict security is at tomorrowland? We bought 30 green heineken's (tested) and would like to get them into the camp and the festival area. Its our first time there and we plan on rolling balls
Beatrice Brozzlestone - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 22:54:41 EST ID:/jvp6D8f No.225598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Buy it all on the festival, bringing your own is just risky and it's like carrying owls to Athens.
Nathaniel Snodgold - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:12:47 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not really necessary, if I didn't know any better I'd say you're just a dealer who wants to gouge people at festivals. I've gone to dozens of shows and brought my own stuff with a pair of boxers like these


all you do it buy a piece of thick latex, wrap whatever you're taking in it (this way it's smooth to the touch and just looks like you have a big package) and stuff that shit in their, alternatively any boxers would work if you and your mates don't mind that your drugs have a bit of dick sweat on them.

9/10's out of 10 security doesn't so much as touch me below the waste and when they do they've always barely touched where I've hid the drugs, it's not like they're cops, they're just dudes who want to get paid $10 to see a free show, they don't want to fondle you like cops do

Closest encounter is when I was stupidly walking in the door at a place already rolling and they questioned me about my pupils and made me take off my pants, and like I said the way I had the drugs it just looked like it was my dick, they rubbed it and were convinced, and that time I had a fucking 1/8th of weed, a gram of coke and a bunch of pills
Nathaniel Snodgold - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:14:01 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao this post is a trainwreck I'm too drunk but my point still stands
Wesley Feshlane - Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:20:11 EST ID:xUd82VLV No.225601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This dude knows what's up. Yay Europe!

ab and hansa shutdown by George Grimson - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 02:57:21 EST ID:ToVlf/w/ No.225590 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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let's have a moment of silence for all the SHIT mandy that's going to be going around these next few months lads, I might even consider taking a break if I cared about my well-being at all. Roll safe.

Eye Wiggles from rolling by Hamilton Birryspear - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:26:29 EST ID:Idnxhac5 No.225587 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yo, back when I first started rolling my favorite side effect was the extreme uncontrollable eye wiggles. I took a break from rolling for a year or so and in the last 4-5 rolls I have had I would feel like I was about to get some eye wiggles but never would get the effect. Is there a reason why I'm not experiencing the eye wiggles anymore and what is it that causes your eyes to wiggle/shake? I miss that effect so much, felt like I was getting a brain massage every time. Plus when ever your on your phone trying to read/send a text the light would just cause my eyes to roll around mad crazy with amazing light trails everywhere. What gives? Why is this effect not working anymore??
Martin Dazzlewill - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:41:50 EST ID:DnipKmkX No.225588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How often are you rolling?

After my first roll I gained the ability to induce nystagmus (eye wiggles) at will - no drugs needed... sorry you didn't :(
Hamilton Birryspear - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 00:50:57 EST ID:Idnxhac5 No.225589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>225588 Maybe 3-6ish times in a year, roll 1-2 times in a month at most. Id dose 2-3 tabs in a night, double drop at first wait for the come up to start then a hour or a bit longer id drop my 3rd one. I always tried to space my rolls out as much as I could, after a roll id give myself a month or longer of time for myself to recover.
I also can control my eyes and make them wiggle on their own just miss it so damn much when x would uncontrollably make my eyes spaz out.

redose question by Edwin Bepperkark - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:39:56 EST ID:FZY/thlB No.225574 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Planning on taking 250mg encapsulated doses later with my SO
When would be the best time to redose, and with redosing is it better to snort or ingest? Since we are taking a high dose, would 100mg be a good redose?
I think you are supposed to do the redose during the peak, correct me if I am wrong :)
Priscilla Moshmon - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 16:08:26 EST ID:6YIWLng0 No.225577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thats too high of a dose imo

why not just do the standard, 125mg with a 75-80mg booster an hour in?
Nell Pipperstone - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:39:05 EST ID:2qbtV/bR No.225579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
350mg in one session is retarded
Frederick Billingbury - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 02:23:07 EST ID:FCPL0y2n No.225580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Assuming your material is at least of a decent quality, the initial dose is huge. I'm not telling you not to do it, but it really is quite a bit. With a dose like this, I would not redose.

Generally speaking I usually take boosters that are 1/3 to 1/2 of the original dose. I follow a dosing regimen of an initial dose of between 70 and 120 mg (depending on set & setting as well as material quality), followed by a booster dose of 30-50 mg around two hours after the initial dose, perhaps slightly longer. Sometimes I take a second booster an hour or so after the first one, but can't really recommend this, as it seems to increase the negative effects during the comedown and afterglow period without significantly improving the roll.

I've found snorting MDMA to be a bad idea in general. It is certainly fun, and the onset and comeup are faster than with oral ingestion, but the duration is noticeably reduced, and there is a rather hard crash. It's also bad for the mucosa of the nose, and should your material include some nasty cuts or impurities, your body has less of a chance to limit the exposure to these compounds, since by snorting you are bypassing the first pass metabolism of the compound. With all this said, I have insufflated MDMA, and still occasionally do, but only if I plan on doing two booster doses. In this case I occasionally snort the first booster, as the second one (which I take orally) softens the hard drop from the snorted booster.
James Lightcocke - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:50:08 EST ID:y8CCgbe0 No.225585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I took an unmeasured dose once which must have been somewhere close to .3 and when I started peaking my entire field of vision became swirling, color changing fractals, and my body became very cold.

I had taken mdma roughly a dozen times before that at doses ranging from .1 to .2. None of my .2 and lower doses made me roll. I think it's got to do with my own brain chemistry because I have plenty of friends who I have taken mdma with of the same dosage of the same batch and it always hit them far harder than it hit me.

What could be wrong with me that it usually takes a 50% higher dose of nearly any drug for me to feel the same effects as other people, including people who weigh twice as much as me?

Needed wisdom for maximised positivity over time by Gareth Gobullecoqkue - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:27:41 EST ID:FEWDSoTU No.225584 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yesterday, i tried mdma for the first time. I was at a drum-and-bass party asked strangers for where to get it, and then found some nice people who let me fingerdip some (though i regret trusting strangers and not being able to test). And 1,5 hour later, I thought it didn't work and that any feels that were there were due to placebo.

Tired and a bit disappointed, I ended up in bed 2,5 hours later. But then there were these weird patterns i saw in the dark. Intrigued to investigate, I put on a candle and saw in the mirror that my pupils were dilated. Also, i felt at peace, while i normally would feel socially exhausted after a party and needing to 'rehearse' everything.

Thus in hindsight, these feels were in fact ascribable to mdma. And these effects are to be cherished (for possible therapeutic uses) and i rather not want them diminished in the future due to overuse. Do you think that there will be any significant permanent diminishment if use molly tomorrow? I feel predisposed for trying it again, and I do not feel any hangover, but i know shit about neurology.

Perfect settting for mdma? by Matilda Gullyville - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 02:14:22 EST ID:0s0k9E5Y No.225551 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Basically I have some MDMA but nowhere to do it. None of my friends do drugs anymore so it's not like I have anybody to roll with (one of my buddies is still game). I've happened to obtain some MDMA after 16 months of a temporary separation from the stuff and I'm wondering what would be the best environment to do this in.

The club's in my town aren't very suitable for this, I've never been a fan of clubs as it is. Most of the time me and my friends would roll in one of our houses, listen to good music and have a great time in the company of just ourselves but like I said they're not interested anymore (all but 1).

So any ideas on how to experience this after a 16 month break? I want it to be special.
Jack Crocklestone - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:10:40 EST ID:T6XjGO/6 No.225575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lightswitch rave in bedroom ?

Opposite experience to MDMA? by Walter Pillysedge - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:19:18 EST ID:gTndqwUB No.225566 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What drug would give me a spiritually masculine experience, religious even? Mdma I see as strictly absolutely feminine experience. I was thinking cocaine and testosterone mixed together.

Oliver Berringmetch - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:44:22 EST ID:6YIWLng0 No.225570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wat the fuck just take lsd and the coke
Hedda Droffingsack - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:13:06 EST ID:0zdfly2W No.225572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would say massive amounts of mushrooms and alcohol with just a bump of meth to keep things going.
Once you e killed a 30 rack or a fifth start playing drums or chopping wood or digging. Really any manual labor.
BlueKachina - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 23:52:29 EST ID:Zr7QD9Wl No.225627 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lmao by Ernest Feggleleck - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 19:49:26 EST ID:yVPplISn No.225571 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I left 4 250mg e pills in my pants before putting them in the washer. The drugs are still in the bag but its all wet and mushy. If I leave it out dry do you think it will work or do you think the MDMA dissolved in the washer?

I feell like a fucking idiot... don't do laundry while you roll guys

mdma by John Finningmud - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 09:04:19 EST ID:5VLs/F9H No.225520 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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my first time rollin, keep me company or insult me i dnt care i will take you all on
George Cruvingcocke - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 01:06:34 EST ID:YEl8KCW+ No.225522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope you're having a great time!
Shitting Drizzlestock - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 00:27:56 EST ID:g93SfOba No.225540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just took an MD cap I got from a trans chick at a gay club in the city the other week, it's kinda tame TBH. I thought gays knew how to party.
Graham Broffinghodge - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:25:23 EST ID:CL23l84y No.225545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How`s it going, alreaedy had the come up?
Jarvis Neshchodge - Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:56:28 EST ID:94UjNtJ6 No.225562 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Watch out for blue balls

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