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DOSING ADVICE by Charles Pankinspear - Wed, 24 Feb 2016 07:49:59 EST ID:O08NaBFR No.223208 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guys,

what doses would recommend for noobs?

I only rolled once before, on about 180mg of crystals (was a bit too intense), and so have my friends

It's me (200lbs), a smaller guy and 2 tiny girls.

I was thinking:

--120mg for the girls due to bodyweight
--150mg for us guys

do you think those are reasonable doses with pure crystals? (i've tested with 5 different reagents and its legit)

thanks guys
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Whitey Beffinghudge - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:27:01 EST ID:PDUBgG2n No.223249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
m9, I had some very pure mdma my fith or fourth time rolling and 200mg at once was way too much and I just had a panic attack and didn't have fun at all.
Whitey Beffinghudge - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:31:37 EST ID:PDUBgG2n No.223250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i weighed just under 80kg at the time too
James Pockdale - Sun, 28 Feb 2016 01:41:23 EST ID:gFWjcb92 No.223254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm under the impression that MDMA doses don't really correlate that well with body weight. There is variation in "optimal" doses between people, but my experience as well as sources on the internet (most notably Erowid) seem to indicate that the variation is significantly more complex than simple body weight comparison. Example: I know a really big guy - tall, heavy build etc. who rolls absolute balls on 80mg of high quality MDMA. On the other hand I know a tiny girl, like really small, who can soak up the stuff like water.

Furthermore, 120mg of good quality MDMA is a _heavy_ dose. It's too much for me personally, and many of my friends too. For me, 120mg is just confusion, can't think a full sentence, stimulation overpowering the empathogenetic qualities of the drug. Unpleasant; the side effects and stimulant side of the drug are so powerful they start to diminish the euphoria.

100mg (again, high quality) is still intense. Depending on the setting this can be a good dose, or a total overkill. If I want to get crazy, babble nonsense, try to dance only to find my coordination too gone for anything, roll in the sheets and not remember most of the night, 100mg is good. But if I want to chill out with friends, talk, bond, listen to music, just be a little more coherent, 80 or even 70 mg is perfect. I've used the substance for psychological healing both myself and assisting others, and this lower dose range seems much better suited for this type of a situation.

I like to take one booster around two hours into the roll, the dose not exceeding 40mg.

This is all highly personal. The only way to find your perfect dose is to try different dose ranges and see what you find enjoyable. That being said, I recommend that you try the lower dose ranges at some point in your exploration. I find that less truly is more with this substance.
Reuben Billingfoot - Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:46:46 EST ID:sAqYnz9V No.223258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah because you were inexperienced, that's simply what it comes down to

there is also a state of pure bliss that comes with the first few times vs jsut being intoxicated, the former of which is what i'm admittedly chasing but unfortunately will never get

i've learnt to just enjoy 200mg though, i used to chase up with another 100mg booster but that never really helped, just a waste

i am envious of you.

its a very good mentality of accepting less is more with MDMA.
Barnaby Pittwater - Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:54:56 EST ID:O08NaBFR No.223260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
an update: one of the girls rolled absolute tits at 120mg, the other one a standard roll, one of the boys @150mg rolled decently hard and as for me it was actually very very light, will try 180 next time!

Second MDMA attempttttt by Wesley Gumbledod - Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:19:23 EST ID:9LkVL2dh No.223200 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I first tried MDMA about a year ago at a festival, eating one cap sold as " 160 mg + ". I was recommended to eat the whole thing by the provider and didn't bother to weigh it. 15 min later I was spirit bombed and had to throw up, unable to control my eyes, body or any motion, feeling waves of such intense energy, not even positive, just overwhelming.

My memory is blurred, but I distinctly know I did not make a single conscious decision that night. Somehow kissed a girl, chewed my lips 'til bleeding, danced, interacted somehow, didn't sleep and was still rolling until lunch the next day etc. etc.

Even now when I think of the experience or hear a song that was on I feel the serotonin rushes, my eyes wiggle, I may start yawning or shaking slightly. I decide just today to weigh the contents of the two MDMA caps I had left. Lo and behold, the two remaining caps contain 300 mg and 260 mg of brown sugar MDMA, respectively.

So my first time dose for MDMA was probably ~ 300 mg, and now I'm concerned about dosing again. I've tried almost every other chem under the sun (incl. numerous tangos with MDA). What dose would you recommend someone who has had this experience, to try a more 'human' level of MDMA? 100 mg? (150 lbs)

Gracias, sorry if this is long, I'm smoked.

tl;dr First dose was accidentally 300 mg MDMA, concerned over second roll
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Shit Sisslechot - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:15:09 EST ID:sAqYnz9V No.223236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
150mg is fine and strong

it can be if it isnt washed

and first timers have serious afterglow, i felt it for 8 hours + and afterglowed until the evening

dont be an idiot
Hedda Bubblehood - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:01:28 EST ID:aLbWlNVR No.223247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Saying something was definitely mdma without testing it is being an idiot
Archie Bruppertut - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 06:56:23 EST ID:O08NaBFR No.223248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>223247 this desu

>hey m8 i took this colorless powder that could be a number of research chemicals but i surely can say it was mdma
Cyril Barringstore - Sun, 28 Feb 2016 02:15:39 EST ID:9LkVL2dh No.223255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I understand y'all doubts comrades (OP here), but it was from a trusted source, acquired months before the festival.

I ended up redosing 110 mg, it wasn't even a 25th of the intensity of my first experience. Had a great time though. Fell in love with every girl I saw, wanted to run and dance and move, felt like everyone was a super awesome person who wanted to talk, colours and stuff, but no eye wiggles and only the slightest of jaw clenches.

I feel like next time 150 mg will be my go to.

Peace ouuttt
Reuben Billingfoot - Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:42:59 EST ID:sAqYnz9V No.223257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying i said this

can you fucking read? i said that you were wrong about mdma not being brown because it can be if they didnt wash it properly

learn to read you retard and shut up

Why me by Emma Foddlenen - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:33:14 EST ID:ZUikRXp3 No.223182 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I never, EVER, have felt sad the day after rolling. I always feel completely normal. Maybe a headache. But.
Maybe I am just naturally low on serotonin in my brain in general? Can someone possibly relate? Like, the crash the next day isn't so bad to me since I'm always around the low area anyways? I've never been a very (emotionally) bright person, so.

I know this is a really far out idea and I don't see it working but fuck it may as well ask
Matilda Pappershit - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 13:18:02 EST ID:lcvBSWLR No.223183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've never felt sad after rolling either.

And I think that just means you're naturally high on serotonin in your brain.

I mean, MDMA loosens up all the serotonin your brain has in storage. Which means that if you feel shit afterwards, you either have been abusing MDMA, or you simply don't have enough serotonin stored in your brain to feel normal.

If the day after using MDMA you don't feel anything, clearly you've got enough serotonin in storage to just feel normal.
Lydia Fumbleshit - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 17:49:30 EST ID:sAqYnz9V No.223184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never get bad comedowns/depression either, mood may be a bit more irritable but that's it.
Albert Blackhall - Sat, 20 Feb 2016 23:34:43 EST ID:DPfhje2M No.223185 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I never feel sad the day after. Tuesday and Wednesday is usually when it sets in. Obviously it depends on how much one does. One dose won't really give you much of a hangover but the more you take the more mental you'll feel afterwards. Honestly I found the depersonalization from over doing it is worse than the depression. If you don't redose a million times the hang over is usually negligible.
Phoebe Mubblegold - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 01:40:01 EST ID:XfKCs0Nt No.223246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The crash is always really, really bad for me. Almost entirely from muscle tension and physical symptoms combined with being unable to sleep. I usually feel godawful the next day too. Luckily bud and benz solves all of these problems.

Can cutting agents give testing kits incorrect results? by George Pirryhood - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:16:27 EST ID:TZXj8YMa No.223241 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tonight I got what I was told was speed, on first look I thought it was just cut meth since it was powder with crystals. Once I got home I put what I had left on a plate and tested with Mandelin, when from red to Brown and took maybe a minute to make the change. The high was decent like mdma but way more speedy, was the pma? Also didn't feel anywhere near enough sedating so maybe cut with meth hence the Crystal or way the crystal pma and the powder was speed? Not gonna do anything like this again since the result was shocking.
Shitting Simmerfoot - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:24:07 EST ID:MqB2Njj4 No.223242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>test gear
>get shit results
>eat it anyway
good job
Edwin Hiffingchudge - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 17:43:41 EST ID:u8JWf1Nx No.223243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I only bring my kit out when I know I'm getting on, this was sprung on me on the night and the source seemed reliable tho i bought the kit knowing most if not all street dealers aren't. Didn't really have a choice since i didn't bring my kit with me so it was either take it or leave it and since i didn't pay brain went out the window and got drug hungry. Won't make this mistake again, just happy everyone is alive. If anyone knows anything about the title would be greatly appreciated for future endeavors.

Any way to recognize MDMA quality apart from testing? by Ian Wemmernurk - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 07:26:43 EST ID:O08NaBFR No.223235 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I got a hold of 2 different batches of MDMA.

They both test right on 5 reagents so its all pure.

One of them was completely crystal clear and crushed into a fine white powder. The other one had a slight amber/brown color and also crushes into a white powder, just a darker white.

The first batch smells of absolutely nothing, the second one has a bit of a sweet scent, almost like sugar (tastes hideously bitter though).

Is the only way of finding out which is best by taking both?
Sidney Duckham - Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:24:25 EST ID:mVmVxPXi No.223237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i suspect the one with the "sweeter" smell might be verylegit for sure.
vendor claimed its synthesised with safrole oil.

erowid says:

Safrole's smell has been variously described in terms of other molecules. Safrole probably interacts with the same olfactory G-coupled receptors as the volatiles in the anise plant, and this makes sense insofar as some of the components in the oil of anise are structurally similar [but not the same as -- Erowid] to safrole. It is accurately described as a candy-shop odour. Go into a place which sells more sugary things than chocolatey things and take a deep whiff. It is also reminiscent of ginger. It has been described as smelling like MDMA, anise, rootbeer, sassafras oil, MDA, mCPP or sodium lactate.

and this batch indeed has a strong smell that matches the description.

Working night shift on a comedown by Caroline Pockspear - Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:20:13 EST ID:7arieCjR No.223213 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Dropped 150 mg last night. Fell asleep aroun 2 am, woke up at 10 today. Going to work at a factory in two hours to do 12 hour night shift on a comedown. Wish me luck
Edward Sazzlefoot - Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:13:50 EST ID:qB6A+Xkv No.223216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wish you would just book the day off...

safety of small doses often vs large doses occasionally by James Lightworth - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:06:33 EST ID:41lnWlZN No.223187 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what do you think the safety of doing small doses is compared to large doses? lets say 200mg every 2-3 months vs 80-100 mg 1-2 times a month. if you use small doses do you still have to wait 2-3 months? i prefer small doses myself, it keeps me from getting too fucked up and saying something I regret and keeps the side effects low. i like to use it as a social tonic for events. so let's say I can roll once a month on 80-100mg, if I can roll safely then that will increase the net happiness of my life because I will have better experiences at events. can I do this safely or am I still risking my brain rolling 1-2x a month?
Barnaby Honeywater - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:38:39 EST ID:HH1m91GW No.223188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i think pee pee is yellow because it mixes together all the colors of the food we eat
James Mossleset - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 20:40:49 EST ID:9j5cQcY0 No.223189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I believe smaller doses to be MUCH safer. Toxicity is increased exponentially at high doses with factors like hyperthermia. That said I would never advocate MDMA bi-weekly. You will develop long term (though at least not permanent) adverse effects which are potentially as dangerous; like deep and dark depression for example.

Stay safe James.
James Brungerhutch - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:40:38 EST ID:ItkMg42D No.223192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There isn't enough research that covers the topic of the effects of different dose magnitudes, unfortunately.
And subjective experiences with this kind of thing are the last thing from reliable, even if you took the experiences of a dozen different posters on this board.

As for how often to roll, even once a month is a no-no if you're thinking of doing this for more than a handful of months.
Albert Bibbernotch - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:14:28 EST ID:ZyByA6Cd No.223193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think toxicity exponentially increases with larger doses,

it may be the case that low doses aren't even neurotoxic - if mdma toxicity occurs due to excess production of oxidative products, which seems posisble, a lower dose might mean the threshold for damage to occur wont' ever be reached, in much the same way that alcohol on occasion is not damaging in healthy individuals.

That said this is JUST a theory- be safe and assume you do damage proportional to the dose, imo.

(but do you really have to roll so often? keep it special yo)
Hannah Bardway - Tue, 23 Feb 2016 22:02:24 EST ID:VecpdDPm No.223207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PSA: no one really knows what the definitive threshold in terms of time and dose for neurotoxicity and other adverse effects is.

Stop asking this shit. If you care about your health, less, both time and dose, is the best.

mdma neurological issues by Albert Bibbernotch - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:25:07 EST ID:ZyByA6Cd No.223195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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mdma neuro-decline victims bunker thread

gtih and unload those heavy feels
Betsy Turveywater - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:52:34 EST ID:ZI/OH18F No.223196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here we go
George Saffinghadging - Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:04:33 EST ID:pRCLnUI5 No.223197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my penis dont work no good no more after past molly abuse
Henry Grandman - Tue, 23 Feb 2016 03:23:04 EST ID:yqPrBHSk No.223198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Too many feels that aren't felt no mo'

Dilemma by Edwin Duvinggold - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 00:49:06 EST ID:dN+c6d8c No.223028 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've taken MDMA 9 times over the course of the last year. Like most people, I fucking fell in love with it but tried to remain cautious and save it for big events. I used supplements, eat good, lift 5 times a week, and am a pretty healthy college student. Last month (January) I started using it for fraternity parties and it was amazing. No social anxiety, I was still extremely coherent and was able to talk to so many girls. I slipped up and did it 4 times over the course of the month. (About 150-220mgs each time). The last time I did it I was rolling pretty hard, having a great time until my ex gf showed up at a party. It ended kind of ugly, but all her friends were there and it were being extremely rude and harshed my vibe. I ended up leaving and just going home to listen to music. Week later, I feel lucid, fine, etc, don't think I did too much damage and I attribute the negative effects more to the setting and people than frequency of rolling (not that probably helped).

Here's the issue. I told myself I was going to take a huge break after my excessive month of use in January. The problem is, mid March my current girlfriend's sorority is having a big rave themed date party and she really, really wants to roll with me there. She took molly once at a Bassnectar concert in HS (pressured by friends, probably wasn't tested) and said she didn't really like it. We are pretty open so I explain all the qualities I love about MDMA so she gets a better understanding of why I do it. After seeing me rolling and talking in depth to me she brought up the idea to roll at that party. Can I get away with rolling again in 6 weeks? I really want her to have a magical first time (I seriously doubt she rolled way back) and would love to experience this with her, but also want to be cautious. A large amount of my guy and girl friends that I've rolled with before will be there too so the vibes will be killer too.
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Edward Ponderstock - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 21:13:53 EST ID:ZI/OH18F No.223046 Ignore Report Quick Reply

My memory is markedly worse since doing MDMA, according to neuropsyche tests conducted before and after three or four years of moderate abuse, where I would take .3 grams to a 1 gram each night, which I did around 17 times. I cannot concentrate and look like a retard most of the time, my family notices, my friends notice.

>inb4 retard

Yeah, I know.
Whitey Niggerdale - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:15:33 EST ID:dN+c6d8c No.223048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here. Y'all have given me pretty sound advice and I will most likely not end up rolling come March. I am going to some festivals over the summer so will wait until then to roll again. I'm an engineering student and might be the M or my benzo abuse but classes have been getting a lot tougher lately (hard material, but still). Would be best to recover and focus on school. Stay safe and take it easy everyone. Appreciate all the advice
Whitey Niggerdale - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:15:33 EST ID:dN+c6d8c No.223049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here. Y'all have given me pretty sound advice and I will most likely not end up rolling come March. I am going to some festivals over the summer so will wait until then to roll again. I'm an engineering student and might be the M or my benzo abuse but classes have been getting a lot tougher lately (hard material, but still). Would be best to recover and focus on school. Stay safe and take it easy everyone. Appreciate all the advice
David Hashsock - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:27:36 EST ID:faTvPsjv No.223067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ricaurte's paper has always been controversial but it later came to light that it had some extremely egregious errors - the controversy and retraction was almost as famous as the paper itself. Search "MDMA Ricaurte paper controversy", or just look at https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_research2.shtml.
Fucking Drepperbanks - Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:27:44 EST ID:ZyByA6Cd No.223186 Ignore Report Quick Reply

One paper amoung the dozens that support mdma being damaging to humans

Why do people on quoting this shit?

Mdma is probably neuotoxic. It isn't worth it. Do it if you will but don't lie to yourself that because one study was fucked and therefore tells us nothing either way it means that somehow it should be considered safe.

Post-roll Existential Crisis by Archie Bunfoot - Tue, 02 Feb 2016 16:36:30 EST ID:Xs/67r9b No.222985 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why aren't we always like this?
Why does it take a drug to put us in a state where we accept everyone?

I get that a lot of the walls we put up and the suspicions we have of every single person are mechanisms built in for us to survive nomad times

But in our modern age, this is the state of mind we should be in.
I don't feel as if we need to be constantly judging one another.

Is anyone feeling this nonsense I'm spouting??
How do you guys handle the post rolling sads?
Has it inspired you to change how you perceive your sober world?
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Ebenezer Boffingbidge - Sat, 06 Feb 2016 11:30:20 EST ID:1zu8mY8V No.223018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lillian Blackworth - Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:09:56 EST ID:gbK3cMqn No.223130 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I guess aggressivity pays off in some situations and lets your genes to be passed to the next generation. Unlike those hippies that tried to talk sense to a angry club wearing dude at the stone age.

Kindness is actually a pretty new thing that mostly works thanks to our society.
Phyllis Dundlelan - Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:22:39 EST ID:9Jyb5o/J No.223160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel ya OP

When I'm rolling practically every insecurity I have and any wall I had just simply melts away

I disagree with you on the fact that you're basically saying we should all always feel that way, but I feel like a lot of the sciences and things that make humans so great would not have been accomplished or even maintained at our current at our current state

I mean could you imagine doing animal testing/research feeling as empathetic as you do when you're high on E? Medicine would just go down the tubes and people would be dying of causes that are laughable in today's standards because everyone would be fucked

Though maybe once a year, like make a holiday of taking E, just so people remember not to be such troglodytes to others sometimes
Oliver Honeywill - Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:10:55 EST ID:BbTHuLfp No.223175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Every high has to have a low op. You feel so good when you're rolling because of the contrast to when you're not rolling. If you were rolling all the time you wouldn't actually be rolling.
Thomas Femblemudge - Fri, 19 Feb 2016 20:56:19 EST ID:MqB2Njj4 No.223179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the low of an mdma high is the hangover, not everyday life

Rolling at home Sunday night by Hugh Cricklestot - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 23:41:30 EST ID:ItkMg42D No.223081 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This will be the last time I roll for a year or two; I'm gonna be doing it at home cause I have no events happening this week.

Spoonfeed me stuff to do pleaes /mdma/, I'm hoping you guys can help form how my night will go. Recommend me activities, music, whatever

Thanks boys

I'm a pretty introverted person, so rolling at home isn't weird at all for me (of course most of my rolls have not been at home though), so don't worry about that
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Hugh Cricklestot - Fri, 12 Feb 2016 16:52:40 EST ID:ItkMg42D No.223097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>why do you need to be spoonfed like it's your first time rolling?
Have you never been doing something, then someone went, "bro, check this out," and what he recommended was really good? Or do you think that everything you know that you like is the end of it?
Simon Fannerkore - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:50:10 EST ID:6EeDOjzo No.223121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watch a good movie, thats what i like to do. sometimes it can be hard to concentrate if your rolling to hard but if you do it right, it can be magic.
Sidney Clizzlesun - Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:29:16 EST ID:B5kq362L No.223170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Brush your teeth
>take a bath
>jerck off
>listen to classical music, it's really intense, you can try wagner or dvorak for exemple
>Buy lots of ggod drinks to try out
>smoke weed or cigs
>invite someone you like over and share the e with him/her
Frederick Blottingforth - Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:09:58 EST ID:MysiXGX4 No.223171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not op
i'll go for cigs but
>jerck off
how people do this ? never achieved to maintain erection, girl/boy/alone whatever.
Betsy Guzzlefoot - Fri, 19 Feb 2016 02:21:47 EST ID:sAqYnz9V No.223172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
gotta look at the dirtiest porn possible.

How much? by justadudelookingtoroll - Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:07:52 EST ID:pwsGJSPl No.223161 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Alright here is the deal
I will be taking these green colored starbucks pills but I am wondering how strong are they and how much should I take? I usually take half a tesla and I roll pretty hard, so should I take half of the starbucks or take a whole? And if I plan to double up should I take two whole's or a half and whole?
Nathaniel Honkinkun - Thu, 18 Feb 2016 14:49:18 EST ID:MysiXGX4 No.223169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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