/mdma/ Ecstasy Discussion
How much does exercising regularly affect how well an individual rolls? Are certain pathways or neurotransmitters easier to access to due natural endorphins constantly being on the uptake? Is there a better recovery time for serotonin? I'm just curious as an individual that is physical active everyday of the week as well as lifting 4-6 times a week if my habits could provide a stronger roll or easier comedown.
>>199358True, guy. Appreciate the quick response, I am still interested to see if there is any science on the subject of how exercise and Molly effect one another.
I dont have any science but from personal observations people seem to enjoy the experience more when they are younger and fitter. I've also seen some older foreigners at some club thing in australia (probably dutch?) that were all xbox huge and really enjoying themselves. I also hear some meat head types at raves dont even need drugs they just get the pump or whatever they call it.I actaully started going to the gym for the express purpose of having a better time while munted. I should probably mix some cardio in with the lifting to avoid getting the tired legs at doofs from all the stomping and manic running around.
>>199362the "pump" as it's referred to is generally just a reference to muscles becoming engorged with blood. Lifting creates a process called Time Under Tension, which basically deprives cells of blood and nutrients. The longer your maintain the tension, the more blood will rush to the affected area causing a "pump".I just get super exctied at EDM shows regardless of psychoactives. It's an exciting environment.
>>199362lol, working out has no effect on how hard you munt for.i had a blast on green hearts (2-3 years ago) when i didn't work out but nowadays pills are so shit that even with double or triple dunking it's only at an alright level.you should really reconsider if your motivation for gym is 'to get a better munt' becuase this mentality won't last long.
>>199362>I dont have any science but from personal observations people seem to enjoy the experience more when they are younger and fitter.I wouldn't say that's because people are rolling harder. I just find that when I'm in good shape, I have more fun when dancing, moving around just comes easier, chicks notice you more, you're more confident and happy in general.It's definitely worth to start working out, and you'll probably have a better time at raves or clubs no matter what you're on, but don't expect MDMA to hit you harder.
>I dont have any science but from personal observations people seem to enjoy the experience more when they are younger and fitter.
So I tried MDMA for the first time several months ago. Many friends told me the downside to it would be feeling like shit the day after. My boyfriend ended up feeling like shit for two weeks after, like really bad. I, personally, didn't feel a thing. The next day I was completely fine. The only adverse effects I retained are a sick feeling I get every time I think about that night again. Now when I see a picture of a rave or just think about one, I can't help but feel nauseous. Also, even on MDMA, dubstep was not good. Maybe it's just not for me. I don't plan on doing it ever again, even though I had a good time, I just didn't care for it. It's a type of artificial happiness that I don't want. I don't think most people on this board would feel the same way, but I felt like sharing that. For the record, I've also never had a hangover from drinking or even a brain freeze.
Nasuea is caused by uptake in serotonin. Your brain is so flooded with serotonin that your body initially responds to it as being poisoned. The easiest way to reject a poison is to vomit it up to get it out of your system.
I've been sold BZP instead of MDMA and gotten that sort of super yuck feeling for most of the night, still had a ball and danced like a retard but probably because the music and people didnt suck.
>>199364No, you get nauseous from MDMA and other serotonergic drugs (especially phenethylamines) because your digestive tract is full of serotonin receptors.That's also why your body doesn't "feel poisoned" when you ingest the same drugs by another route than eating them, like plugging.
>>199368No, you're right. I looked it up after my post. It has to do with smooth muscle contractions.
Bought some "molly" today and used my new marquis test for the first time. Uppon hitting the powder there was a fizzing sound and the liquid bubbled and immediately turned pitch black. I know that that's an MDxx reaction, but when I move the liquid around there is traces of dark green, NOT purple or dark blue. Did I get MDMA or is it something else? I don't see any other drug that turns pitch black on my test chart. *edit* I tested another pill and it seems to be dark purple/black. Maybe the other one just had impurities?Pic related, it's the purple one. Didn't get a pic of the green one before I washed the plate
>>199334And blue plus yellow equals green! Herp derp I got metyhlone.
>>199335yep.methylone isn't bad but it also costs like 1/3 the price of MDMA, far less when you get into bulk deals. MDMA is always expensive. methylone starts off cheap and end up DIRT CHEAP.you can see why it's everywhere.
>>199337Eh, I don't care for it much. It's just not the same and doesn't last nearly long enough
found this. seems some 2c-x chems register as black with a green tint
>>199349It was a darker green than those, and it wasn't psychedelic at all. I think it was the blue from a little bit of MDMA + the yellow from Methylone = the green tintIt felt nearly identical to the one time I tried methylone
Hey guys, Im sending some molly to a friend across the us its just a small baggie of 10 caps whats the easiest way to send it without it getting caught or anything. Thanks!!!t
Put them in a vitamin bottle with similarly shaped pills. And use a fake return address, of course.
The best thing to do would be to take the molly out of the caps, put it in a little baggie and sellotape it to some A4 sheet of paper. Fold up the paper with a few other sheets and stick it in a business letter with a printed address. Hand written is suspect as fuck.Make sure you can't feel the baggy inside by feeling the letter, if you can use more sheets.If you really want to send them as caps (i don't know why you would have to) make sure you tape them to whatever you put them in (video game case) so they don't rattle
vacuum pack inside a video game case well packaged should do it. I've sent weed overseas like this.
>>199306i think i might take that one guys advice and just throw them in a bottle with fish oil or other similarly shaped caps and just ups it
Will smoking weed before a roll alter it in a bad way? I just want to smoke before because i get bored waiting for the roll to begin. Will smoking during my roll enhance or kill it?Thanks in advance
>>199280I used to smoke errday for 2 years now i only do it on the weekends so i think ill be good
>>199279Sounds like memorial weekend will be filled with hash, weed, molly, and a lil DMT.Thanks guys!
Do it on the come down to take the edge off.
>>199302Na bro, take a huge hit from a bowl or 'zoomie' whilst rolling, hold it in and sprint for 10 seconds and then let it out, see what happens.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0009143There is physically no reason what-so-ever to not smoke cannabis while rolling, in fact it would be preferred if you did.Personally, I never really feel much change when smoking while rolling, just a light head rush and I continue feeling fucking awesome. For the most part it just tastes amazing.
Hey guys I've recently acquired some molly, and I plan on doing a solo roll as there's not shit going on and I don't have the funds to buy anyone else some to do it with. I have some of my day set out - I plan on going out to the park with an awesome playlist and just walk around for a couple hours. Then after that I'm not quite sure what would be fun to do by myself. So any ideas about this would be awesome. But my more important question is how influential is your mindset when rolling on Molly? I ask as I've been having relationship problems (plan on leaving her due to how she treats me like shit, but I digress), and don't want to a) dwell on her while rolling and fall back in-love with her, b) have the most depressing time of my life the day after when my brains deprived of serotonin. I'm not sure if I would be better waiting for this to be leveled out but I also feel I need to do something to shake my life up a bit, hence buying some molly. I've done ecstasy before but it's always been at concerts having the time of my life. Any insight or advice is greatly appreciated thanks
Journal entries/recording a must. I also try and meditate everyday.Rolling alone for relationship problems fucking backfired in my face perhaps but it made being alone therapeutic.>just try and use the experience to be the opposite of self destructive!IMO save some, so if you have the chance to test your sample you can.
>just try and use the experience to be the opposite of self destructive!
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>>198763Dunno if I said this before, but at least for me, MDMA kills my libido, almost as much as acid and co. Ironic because it's both the love drug and an amphetamine (increased libido, right?), but whatever, if it works for other folks...
>>198787Its the serotonin, it kills ur sex drive, boner, and ability to come. The dopamine does the opposite. So it varies from person to person, situation to situation, your current chemical balance, and other things too. Pills with stimulants are way easier to do it with
Everytime i roll alone ill try to do shit like walk around, watch movies, text, etc. But i always end up laying in bed and listening to music from the 70's. Shits pretty cash honestly.
Alright, I know that this isn't directly involved with MDMA, but seeing as /other is a shitstorm, and there's some debate over whether or not oxytocin could be a 'new' MDMA, I figured you guys would be better suited to debate the topic.Essentially, oxytocin is the chemical released during physical contact with another person. It increases trust and facilitates bonding, both of which are akin to the effects of MDMA. In fact, many activities taken part of on ecstasy release this anyway.Now, I just had an awesome time with this chick I really get along with on MDMA (nothing sexual) and noticed that the couple day after effects seem a bit worse than usual. Obviously this is the backlash from MDMA, but it's more pronounced that it usually is. I'm thinking that maybe having my system flooded with oxytocin and MDMA is generating these feels.On top of this, I'm wondering if anyone has any experience using oxytocin 'recreationally' or perhaps while drinking, and if so does it have any similar effects to rolling?
yeah it's not like viable to just take oxycotin and roll with it, I know I thought like that and did hella research on it one time after I met this one chick while rolling haha.honestly now I wish mdma didn't have oxytocin... me and this one chick had such a chills friends with benefits thing going and then we rolled and fell in love and shit got all fucked up. Also definitely not recommend to roll or get that oxytocin flowing while drinking. Cause from my experience, when I'm drunk with a boner, I'm down to fuck some slutty chicks. and if I'm also rolling, then the oxytocin is gonna make me feel all these emotions and shit instead of just a simple drunk fuck
>>199283Yeah but don't like banging random chicks, even rolling. If anything it just makes me wanna get to know them and or cuddle.This crash is pretty gnarly right now though and I have to work with no energy and all this pseudo depression. However, it was almost worth it just because of how awesome this weekend was. Maybe oxytocin on its own could have some merits.
How long should you wait between /mdma/ doses so that you dont have any health problems or tolerance ? from what ive seen people say at least 2 weeks
>>199252Adderall is pretty fun at raves. Makes you want to dance for hours and helps my social anxiety too
>>199252Me and my friends can complain about this subject for hours. Simply put there's nothing that will compare to mdma (with it's total harmonizing of practically every factor needed to make a rave fucking incredible). With that said other amphetamine based drugs are good. Crystal meth would be brilliant- just don't do it, ever, it's too good. Like >>199258 was saying adderall is actually pretty good for it. If you've never touched it before (find it gets boring quickly) ketamine can make dubstep raves incredible (honestly, as good as md the first few times) but you will look like an absolute prick and going too far is easy and terrifying. I'm one of the few people I know who genuinely enjoys pure speed- doesn't have the same warmth (AT ALL) and can really put you on edge, but it gives you loads of energy and eliminates all my social anxiety.Boring note: alcohol. If the music is genuinely good I have no problem dancing for hours with a bit of booze. My first proper squat rave we were sold bunk md, had half a bottle of rum and 2 large spliffs and was dancing until 5am. Just gotta be in the right head space.
6 month on 6month off. trust me, this is what my mother told me.
>>199263care to elaborate?As for OPs question, Most people say 1 month but that's minimum, if you want to keep the amazing effects you should wait 2-3 months.
ideally you wanna wait a month and just space your rolls out like that... but the scene, man, the scene.When I start going to raves I make friends, hear about more raves, shit like that. I go through 3 month phases of rolling every week or two, then go 3 months completely off the shit (taking mushrooms at raves now... damn it's a trip to see all you tweaked out candy fucks when I'm not also rolling).So yeah, 1 month is good, 2 weeks is alright spacing for a little while but then you'll wanna space it out more cause stickin with 2 week spacing can make you a little etarded after a while, especialy depending on your dose
Heeeello /MDMA/.. I rolled last Friday really hard on .3 with my bf and he wants to roll again this Friday. Before that we rolled on April 12th and before that new years.. which was his first time and my first time in years. So I'm concerned if my brain will get fried from doing it within a weeks time. I know it's a stupid idea but he's dead set on it because last Fri got cut short..So basically can someone tell me if it'll be substantially bad on my "neurotransmitters" with long term effects....? It's hard to find accurate info online for some reason and I figure you guys can help me out! Thx
>>199269as long as you dont make a habit out of it you'll be ok
>>199270this is pretty accurateits the habit that will fuck you over really
>>199272dont form one of more than once a month llong term and you are fine
Okay good, thank you for the advice! Btw pic related- it's the 2 grams I picked up for 80$ yesterday! Amazing deal is undeniable....
um... yeah"just this once" you'll be fine. but fuckin forreal, just this once. if your boyfriend does this and then wants to do it again next weekend you should probably stop the madness lest you get all fried out.
I'm posting this here, because I'm more concerned with the effects of the molly.I'm going to be candyflipping in two weeks time. I was considering dropping the acid first, and then about 8 hours later (after I'd gotten through most of the heavy aspects of the trip) letting it slide into a roll with molly.Is this a proper procedure for candyflipping? Will I burn out most of my serotonin during the trip and diminish my roll? If I want a strong roll should I take the molly first and then the LSD?
>>199176Also stop using the word pedantic so much. It's not impressive.
>>199204>i'm a better and cooler drug taker than you
>i'm a better and cooler drug taker than you
>>199114Damn guys. I just want to want have SLAYER, not start a shit storm. For such a compassionate drug, you guys sure do enjoy bickering.
Whenever these threads happen I always imagine the people taking the drugs to be from the UK/Europe, and the ones saying to measure out amounts and take it slowly are from the USA.
Direct experience is best experience, so many shitstorms on 420chan atm.
What is more pure the brown crystalline stuff from europe or the pressed pills i hear so much about?
>>199248think about this question for a second.
>brown crystalline stuff from europe The crystals I usually see here in Europe are slightly tannish to off-white. If it''s really brown, somebody didn't bother to wash it properly. Our chemists usually aren't as lazy as that. The brown stuff won't be outstandingly pure. It can still be great, and clear white crystals can be impure or cut as well, but there are definitely synthesis impurities or unreacted precursors present if there's a discoloration.>or the pressed pills i hear so much about?Presses are all over the place. Most Euro presses are clean, and that seems to go for an increasing number of American pills again if ecstasydata is right, but you also get total crap without any MDMA in it, rolls cut with meth etc.When you're buying MDMA, you can't go by sight alone. You need a trusted source, you need to test your stuff to see if it's MDMA and unless you can send them to a lab that does quantitative measurements (not possible for laymen in the US), you won't know how pure your stuff is, only if there's another drug besides or instead of MDMA in it.
>brown crystalline stuff from europe
>or the pressed pills i hear so much about?
>brown crystaline stuffThat stuff can be pure as fuck if you read up on the synth the tiniest impurity can drastically change the colour and should not be worried aboutAnything from brown to white to purplish are noted on all the synths i've read up on
>brown crystaline stuff
Shame on you. Pic related.Experienced /psy/chonaut, on about 30mg right now, experiencing mild yet undeniable psychedelia. Not as visual as 6-APB, but somehow more mindfucky.>mfw in an airport terminal, flight delayed due to weather, rollin
>mfw in an airport terminal, flight delayed due to weather, rollin
>>198930Just realized thread makes no prompt for response.5-APB experience thread.
haha That must be insane! Are you gonna fly in the plane while you trip?
snort 40 mg or eat another 80 mgthen tell me about the tracers fucking win
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