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Jon Jones stripped of belt after failed drug test by CarlosDanger - Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:35:52 EST ID:soN4hPTz No.57825 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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From TMZ

>Jon Jones has tested positive for steroids in his UFC 214 victory over Daniel Cormier, and he has been stripped of his title ... TMZ Sports has learned.

>Our sources tell us ... Jones tested positive for Turinabol -- an anabolic steroid.

>Jones won the July 29 fight -- taking the UFC light heavyweight belt from Cormier with a savage head kick followed by a barrage of punishing punches to Cormier's head.

>The title now goes back to Cormier.

>It's the second time Jones has failed a USADA drug test. He tested positive for banned substances in 2016 before UFC 200 and was pulled from the main event. Jones got socked with a 1 year ban.

>We're told this time around, he could be banned for up to 4 years.

>Jones had blamed his previous failed test on a male enhancement pill. He claimed he didn't realize the pill contained a banned substance and insisted he was NOT trying to gain a competitive edge.
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Matt Lindland - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:34:41 EST ID:AFt0CabC No.58000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57999

wtf, not sure why this didn't bump
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Stephan Bonnar - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 19:55:18 EST ID:wUVLkW34 No.58001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Bart Palazewski - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:50:31 EST ID:AFt0CabC No.58002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58001

What a terrible decision Edgar made taking that fight. He shouldn't have taken a fight against an up-and-coming undefeated fighter unless it was a main event and/or for an interim title. Now he lost his title shot and he may not get back up to the top of the heap again.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:47:55 EST ID:ORjgfqjK No.58075 Report Quick Reply
His suspension is going to be lifted at the end of next month - https://deadspin.com/usada-says-jon-jones-can-return-to-the-octagon-as-early-1829185643
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Gabriel Gonzaga - Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:49:26 EST ID:PSUszqLv No.58076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58075
Well, I guess with Russia alowed back in to the WADA, using PEDs is totally cool now for the Anti-doping organizations.


**Conquers your Conqueror** by Yushin Okami - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:56:39 EST ID:mB1OHRSN No.58044 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the fuck happened to Cain Valesquez

He did what Joe Rogan thought to be impossible and that was to finally strip Brock Lesnar of his unquestioned reign with the World Heavyweight Championship

After basically exposing and embarrassing the fuck out of Brock he's literally never talked about meaningfully

What happened?
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Lorenzo Fertitta - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:39:42 EST ID:iQgqpYL4 No.58045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58044

>After basically exposing and embarrassing the fuck out of Brock he's literally never talked about meaningfully

Because he got his shit pushed in by Junior Dos Santos immediately afterward. Years later he beat JDS but then Fabricio Werdum pushed his shit in and now his body is all fucked up.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:37:28 EST ID:HFqpkngE No.58072 Report Quick Reply
>>58069
Gotta know where there cameras are
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Kimbo Slice - Sat, 08 Sep 2018 22:04:34 EST ID:cQdaJ+3J No.58073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58069

If the reports are true, he's kind of a shit prospect in wrestling. At his age, it might not be worth it to waste the resources to train him up for a few years.
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Jon Fitch - Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:17:40 EST ID:9CgLQZjM No.58074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58073
If he brings in Mexicans like Rey did, it'll be worth it. Then again, as it turns out, Rey is coming back, so I guess Cain is redundant.


Brock Lesnar is going to destroy DC and become UFC HEAVYWEIGHT. CHAMP by Steve Cantwell - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 00:40:04 EST ID:6X99HwD6 No.58052 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Mmafags Btfo
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Matt Hamill - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 00:57:05 EST ID:iQgqpYL4 No.58053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58052

Nah, Brock hates getting punched in the face. DC will push his shit in and then call out Jones for next year.
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Matt Hughes - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 23:09:29 EST ID:m1NFspl/ No.58065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58053 Jones will make Cormier cry like a bitch yet again.


MIXED MARTIAL ENTERTAINMENT by Jorge Santiago - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:49:45 EST ID:oXxEAWra No.57969 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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One of my friends was joking the other day about Vince's XFL trademark being for "the Xtreme Fight League" and what a worked MMA fed would be like. What are your ideas?

We came up with:
>No weight classes. Mastadons can fight 5'3" vanilla midgets
>Can win by escaping the cage
>Handicap bouts with mastadons facing three skinny tin cans
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Dennis Kang - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:07:56 EST ID:mPNo+/oJ No.58056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57969
Those three things would be awesome as a shoot and stupid as fuck as a work.
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Shogun Rua - Sun, 15 Jul 2018 01:24:14 EST ID:OC4f4ggS No.58057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57970

>>57970

>>57970

Team Fighting Championship, look up this fucked up shit.
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Takanori Gomi - Sun, 29 Jul 2018 03:52:41 EST ID:dWqcspyK No.58063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58057
There's also some Russian thing called "Hip Show" which has teams fighting on an obstacle course.
Team boxing is an old tradition in Russia, they call it Stenka Na Stenku.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:16:42 EST ID:4Zm7H80G No.58064 Report Quick Reply
>>58057
I mean the International Fight League was like this with the team concept and all except they didn't all fight at the same time.
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Rani Yahya - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 11:24:55 EST ID:dWqcspyK No.58066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58064
Chuck Norris' World Combat League was teams, just one-on -one fighting.


Boring by Royce Gracie - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:53:07 EST ID:6gunZrjG No.58054 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You what Lewis vs Ngannou looked like?
A game of Tekken when both players put the controllers down and go get a drink or something, and the characters just sort of stand there bouncing on their feet until the timer counts down.
Finally we have a fight more boring than the Gracie/Shamrock superfight.
Stand and Bland has been REDEFINED.


which martial art 4 manlit azn by Brian Stann - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 01:44:47 EST ID:Ygo4DXjh No.58051 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hi im 4'11 which mma to learn i was supose to do wing chun in highschool but i went get highg after school with frens im chinese btw haha thanks !!
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I know kung fu by !Ps1ivhrO6w - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:47:14 EST ID:yLXQisN5 No.57944 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-w17_1q7e4

ask me anything
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Yojimbo - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 02:57:39 EST ID:qQ0+11yk No.57963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57944
Do you know KAMASUTRA?
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Dextrolord - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:45:04 EST ID:iVanACyz No.57984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57963
I solely practice pharmasutra
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:26:37 EST ID:xfsaelmX No.58039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm so high I thought for a few seconds that this was some kind of awkward looking kung fu but then realized it's just some kid being awkward.

That guy needs to work on his coordination, badly. He's so clumsy.
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James Te Huna - Wed, 16 May 2018 22:02:39 EST ID:Io74PdUa No.58041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How big is Batis-shit wrong thread
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Jorge Masvidal - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:23:22 EST ID:b4lzIJS8 No.58049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58039
He's so twitchy and unco, he may actually have some kind of condition, like OCD or Tourette's. The compulsive grip changing reminds me of a guy I used to work with who had to back up and get set before he performed any action. Like, between bagging individual chicken nuggets, before opening a toilet door, turning a tap...
Still, from the looks of his channel, he's improved over eight months, doing handstand pushups is bretty gud. So he's gonna be unco and ripped.


Scream Team by Chael Sonnen - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:15:49 EST ID:mpINBVh4 No.57964 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there any rule in MMA about how loud you can scream? I couldn't find one. Makes me wonder if this could be a useful technique. Say you are in half guard and you cup your mouth around your opponents ear and belt out a sound that could cause hearing lose and/or some discomfort to your opponent giving you enough time to execute a move while your opponent reels in pain from your sonic blast?

Are there any examples of people using screams as a weapon in combat sports?
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Michael Bisping - Tue, 01 May 2018 07:11:17 EST ID:hIvgZjnb No.58032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58025
what about you load up your bones with metal weights? Like how Anderson Silva got his leg reconstructed (with titanium or whatever). what if your break your knuckles. Then reconstruct your hand loaded with heavy metal like built in sap gloves? I think you might punch your hand off
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Michael Bisping - Tue, 01 May 2018 07:14:35 EST ID:hIvgZjnb No.58033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58032
Pic for reference
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:17:03 EST ID:xfsaelmX No.58038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57964
Does this mean I can take people's eyes and throats out now?

What about groin shots?
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Cole Miller - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:03:43 EST ID:By6MnPzl No.58046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What if I identify as a scorpion, do I get discriminated for my gender or do they let me take my roped kunai in the cage? Instead of going in the cage, can I just tell my opponent to get over here?
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Jorge Masvidal - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:59:56 EST ID:b4lzIJS8 No.58048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58031
Only if it works.


Suggestions for someone with a fused spine by Harold Howard - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:20:57 EST ID:4x3SXUKM No.57981 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I know you get asked for recommendations a lot but my knowledge of martial arts is limited and I have a bit of an unusual problem. I have a disease that's fused/fusing my vertebrae, the bottom 1/4 of my spine is already fused to my pelvis.

How do I get power into strikes without having to use my spine? The only training I've had is boxing and that was as a kid. Are there any striking disciplines out there that would work well for me given my issues? And as far as learning to escape joint locks, is BJJ the best for that kind of thing?
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Cole Konrad - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:55:21 EST ID:LmmWTz10 No.57982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You shouldn't be using your spine anyway, your hips should stay in line with your shoulders, your torso turns as one unit when you pivot from the balls of your feet to throw a punch. Think of a barrel hanging from a rope, spinning with a plank nailed to it.
BJJ is pretty uber for escaping locks. The only thing I'd compare it to is Judo.

I'd investigate Alexander Technique or Feldenkrais Method, generally, to compensate for your condition. Spinal issues like scoliosis and lordosis are their jam.
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Donald Cerrone - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:29:32 EST ID:4x3SXUKM No.57983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57982
Thank you for explaining that I need to get the fuck to a gym because whatever I knew is obviously gone.

>I'd investigate Alexander Technique or Feldenkrais Method
Never heard of either of those but they both sound interesting. I have ankylosing spondylitis and I haven't been exercising my back the way I'm supposed to so I should be doing something like feldenkrais anyways.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:59:26 EST ID:ZAtknOX9 No.58024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57983
Consider supplementing GHK-cu. It's naturally in the body and should help with the inflammation in your condition.
>kung fu
As a Wizard, I'm just going to suggest you learn gun-fu instead, all things considered.
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:07:52 EST ID:xfsaelmX No.58037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57982
No no no, the force has to cascade from your heel to the surface of your fist through every available muscle and joint in one fluid motion. Like cracking a whip, where your feet are the handle, and your hand is the tip. Whichever direction your body is oriented in is only a trifling matter of gravity. Ideally, you should probably be pointed towards your opponent as much as gravity allows.

OP, I would advise against martial arts and maybe take up firearms and get a concealed carry permit. Don't just try to work around your injury and think you'll be okay, you won't. You'll get wrecked.
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Jorge Masvidal - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:59:12 EST ID:b4lzIJS8 No.58047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58037
That's the biomechanics behind a power lead, like Bruce Lee and Jack Dempsey. And even then your heel should be off the ground, you can't pivot flat-footed and will put your back out, like OP is trying to avoid.


UFC signs deal with ESPN for ESPN+ Platform by Jon Jones - Tue, 08 May 2018 10:28:19 EST ID:aN11/Grv No.58034 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/23440573/ufc-espn+-reach-multiyear-media-rights-agreement

Well, this is certainly interesting. Deal takes affect starting January 2019 when UFC's old 8-year deal with Fox from 2011 runs out.
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Dustin Hazelett - Thu, 10 May 2018 05:42:12 EST ID:aN11/Grv No.58036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Per Dave Meltzer:

>ESPN+ will be able to put up all UFC events from 1993 to 2018 up for archives. From 2018 on, they will be able to add their events, but not the events from another partner, nor PPV events, which Fight Pass will have. ESPN+ also won’t have access to the non-Fight Pass library of boxing, kickboxing and other MMA promotions like Pride, Strikeforce and WEC.

So it sounds like ESPN+ users will get a giant UFC archive with their sub at no extra cost. Fight Pass isn't completely dicked, though, as it will still have its own exclusive UFC events, as well as all of the non-UFC events it carries. Fight PAss will also still have exclusive archives of PRIDE and the other promotions UFC absorbed in the past, so no PRIDE NEVER DIE for ESPN+ users.

Meltzer also said the deal is $150 million per year for 15 events, making out for roughly $10 million paid for event, which is more than almost all UFC PPV's pull in buys except for the few mega cards. Meltzer speculates this might cause for less PPV's in 2019 in lieu of these ESPN+ events taking over for some old PPV slots, which means these ESPN+ events will likely be closer to PPV cards in terms of quality and title fights as opposed to FS1 and Fight Night exclusive snorefests.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 23 May 2018 07:34:39 EST ID:DI5qYF9S No.58042 Report Quick Reply
>>58036
It’s now going to be 30 fights total, 15 which will now air on ESPN’s television channels - http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/espn-adds-30-fights-to-ufc-tv-rights-deal-reaching-1-5-billion-value-exclusive-1202819447/
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Jorge Santiago - Wed, 23 May 2018 10:26:41 EST ID:iQgqpYL4 No.58043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58042

Yep, just saw the headline on ESPN.com. I wonder how this much spending will affect the rest of the network since cord-cutting and the crippling NFL deal have really bit them in the ass as of late.


History of Techniques by Rick Story - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:41:40 EST ID:vnohrc/6 No.58009 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was watching a Texan pro wrestling match from the 1950s and this flappy boi pulls out what kinda looks like a prototype crucifix armbar/cross armbreaker. I've long considered it an "MMA" move and presumed it's innovation, or at popularization & appropriation by exhibitionists, was relatively recent (probably Brazilian). Now I'm wondering just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/? What about other common maneuvers? Any especially interesting timelines that've been taken for granted & forgotten?
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Rick Story - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:42:46 EST ID:vnohrc/6 No.58010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58009
*at least popularization & appropriation
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Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:38:39 EST ID:dxQ7a5I7 No.58011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58009
AFAIK it's a Judo move. BJJ had a lot of Judo in its inception, the Japanese master who taught jujitsu to the Gracie patriarch was a member of the Kokodan.
Judo goes back to 1882, the arm-bar may be in Japanese jujitsu before that, and there's probably variations native to the catch-wrestling that pro-wrestling devolved from, as well as sombo, pancration, and any other country's martial arts and sports that explored submission-based groundwork.
Like Bruce Lee said, “I personally do not believe in the word style. Why? Because, unless there are human beings with three arms and four legs, unless we have another group of human beings that are structurally different from us, there can be no different style of fighting.”
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Junior Dos Santos - Wed, 09 May 2018 06:26:52 EST ID:Rge49gpP No.58035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pro wrestling as entertainment is based on the rules and techniques of the Combat sport called catch wrestling. Catch wrestling is what pro wrestling was when it was real.

It is oldest known to be a mishmash of European styles of local wrestling from throughout Scotland, Wales, and England, etc. both during that period and after there was a lot of cross pollination between styles as guys travelled through other countries from the Middle and Far East.

This kinda looks like a nonsense concession hold but the cross arm bar is a staple of all grappling arts as far back as you can go. It was often taught in localized Japanese systems of jiujitsu which have never been syllabized. Catch wrestling was also never syllabised which is why it almost nearly died out and has a murky history while judo and bjj flourished.

Bjj and judo are seperate martial arts which were separately syllabised from the common ancestor of Kano Jiujitsu, which was a collection of techniques encompassing ground grappling and throwing.

Might be interesting for you to know that the heel hook technique you see in pro wrestling or MMA is a native technique to the martial art of pro wrestling. You can still see the evidence in the name of the technique (“hook”, meaning incapacitating grappling technique, as by joint damage etc, old pro wrestling term). There are some other techniques with cross over terms between catch wrestling or pro wrestling as a martial art, and modern bjj or judo, where the techniques are the same or very similar but have seperate origins and names. Here’s some pro wrestling technique names and their modern title:

Sleeper = rear naked choke
Abdominal stretch = cobra twist = the twister
Front headlock = guillotine choke
Double wrist lock = Kimura lock
Cravat = baseballbat choke
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:31:41 EST ID:xfsaelmX No.58040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58009
>What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/?
This is a better question for /his/

Short answer - Armbars are as old as arms.


Skinny Boxer by Dan Severn - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 04:31:53 EST ID:n8L/swSe No.57923 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm a skinny, 110lb 5'10 motherfucker who wants to learn how to box. Is there any point while I'm this skinny? Do I need to load on weight before I can start training? Also, do you generally go to a boxing teacher or is it something that they offer at gyms? I have amazing reaction times and have been told I can actually deliver a somewhat formidable punch, but I'm wondering if it's not gonna mean anything if I have to use my boxing skills on someone bigger than me. Any tips or general advice for someone looking to get into it?
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Urijah Faber - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:02:45 EST ID:o5wtiNS3 No.57929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57923
You go to a boxing gym, nothing more nothing less, some are more like train whenever you want some are more based around classes, some a mixture. It should be a gym that fields amateur boxers, pro-am gyms are a thing in some countries but not all, but as a rule of thumb look for a gym that is tied to your countries amateur body.
And you're a 5'10 bantamweight (I think) that's quite a big advantage over most people that weight, obviously in sparring you'll go with lots of different size people but a good gym they wont be going all out on each other. I'm 115 kg, 6'4 and have sparred people your weight, it's just a skill practice.
Good luck, boxing is great and you'll get out of it what you put in.
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Josh Thomson - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 09:38:40 EST ID:tD80FHVn No.57930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57923
you understand in boxing you fight other guys in your weight class, right?

being tall and skinny isn't such a bad thing if you can protect your body. you'll have a reach advantage and it'll be an awkward angle to reach your head.

Paul Gonzalez was a tall flyweight. Of course, if you're serious about this, you'll pack on some muscle.
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Tyson Griffin - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:54:11 EST ID:w+FGDv0a No.57989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>57923 I do box too and some of the better boxers of the gym are so fuckin thin and fast they scare the shit out of most of noobs. You should try it its great, its not a matter of weigh, just precision and power
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Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:03:50 EST ID:dxQ7a5I7 No.58012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Best to start training while you're skinny, so you have to rely on technique rather than muscle for power.
The muscle will grow naturally as you train, as long as you eat right.

I recommend Jack Dempsey's book on boxing "Championship Fighting".
https://archive.org/details/Championship_Fighting_Explosive_Punching_and_Aggressive_Defense_1950_Jack_Dempse

This is the one Bruce Lee used.
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Karo Parisyan - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:57:07 EST ID:prphjPSY No.58027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58012
The part about aligning your wrist to hit with the three smaller knuckles is gold. Try a wall push-up using that as your contact surface and you'll feel it.


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