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Werdum = final boss of UFC by Stefan Struve - Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:18:26 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56110 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Good breakdown of UFC 188 to dispel all the bullshit still around claiming altitude cost Cain the belt http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/6/18/8779811/ufc-188-judo-chop-fabricio-werdum-efficiency-cain-velasquez-mma-technique-jab-guillotine-fight-gif

Werdum solidly outclassed him everywhere, like how he easily picked Cain apart with jabs since he fell for all the feints Werdum threw. Cain's coaches are clownshow, especially that 2nd round corner guy who suggested he take down a guy well known for hardly ever fighting a takedown attempt since he will almost always win on the ground if you're stupid enough to try it. In the UFC pre-fight shilling videos all Cain's coaches did was hype how "Mexican" he was and clearly don't know shit about what they are doing.

Cain needs to
>fire his entire worthless staff, especially the corner guys and coaches
>go train with real MMA coaches and not select them by ethnic background but by proven results
>learn how to box
>stop relying on his push up against the cage strategy when dealing with experienced fighters like Werdum
>wait out Werdum's retirement to get the belt back since no chance of beating Werdum without being humiliated again
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Takeya Mizugaki - Mon, 22 Jun 2015 19:24:54 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.56111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56110
>all Cain's coaches did was hype how "Mexican" he was
What do you expect? The guy has brown pride scrawled across his chest. He's probably got a la raza ring or belt buckle too. Funny thing is the mother fucker was born and raised like an hour drive from the bay area.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:28:04 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56111
Wikipedia says he was born near the bay area, raised in Arizona, went to college in Iowa. Sounds pretty fucking American if you ask me.
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Leonard Garcia - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 14:34:12 EST ID:tD80FHVn No.56116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56114
> In the UFC pre-fight shilling videos
they're either trying to sell the fight to Mexicans, or imply something about Cain's style, that he'll stand there and eat & trade punches, which is what everyone likes.

Besides, Bay Area & most of Arizona is pretty damn Mexican.

Also:
>BROWN PRIDE
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Gina Carano - Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:02:02 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56116
UFC was definitely trying to break into the Mexican fight market by shilling how Mexi Cain is, they were showing every PPV free there for the longest time to build up interest too.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:52:37 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56117
And then he lost like the bitch ass jabroni he is. I always find it highly amusing when hometown heroes lose in MMA (unless it's one of my personal favorites like Joanna Champion).


Unsportsmanlike Conduct by Yoshihiro Takayama - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:53:55 EST ID:1MrSbg5q No.56092 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't know where to post this, but I want to post it somewhere, I figure you guys could appreciate it.

This is the reason I believe in fight training. I don't want to be helpless if I ever have to fight against a person like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1A85Hzg8tw

pic unrelated
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Efrain Escudero - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:13:02 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56093
So his name apparently is Ruslan Yakubov a 'kickboxer' and he was the leader of some extortion gang who got 8 years in prison for filming this. It's not clear who the other guys are but they are likely recruits to his own crew and not rivals since they'd just kill each other on the street and not bother with a silly boxing match. nb
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Scott Jorgensen - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:30:42 EST ID:96i3agf3 No.56095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56094
Found it http://www.mzk1.ru/2012/06/otmorozki-mezhdurechenska

Even if you were Mr MMA and beat this guys ass down they would just kill you so knowing how to fight would not have saved you at all.

"Mezhdurechensk sentenced leaders and members of the so-called Jakubovsky groups. For a long time they were kept at bay residents of the mining town. And were behind bars after beat a man to death. The trial of Ruslan Yakubov and his associates began exactly a year ago. They were engaged in extortion of money and carried out the so-called "roof" for businessmen. In order to intimidate the victims were brought to the gym and staged fights without rules. Bloody fights took place in the gymnasium of the boarding school. This collection agency staff forcibly brought debtors and those who, in their opinion, should be punished. To fight out a professional boxer Ruslan Yakubov - using prohibited methods, he scored opponents to a pulp. In 2008, the victim of "yakubovtsev" became a security guard of a company Alexander Mikhailov. He was taken to the gym and severely beaten. A few months later an appointment in the city center. When he saw people with weapons and masks, then tried to escape. Caught him shot in the back and scored bits. From his injuries, he died in hospital. Man killed his mother believes her son was killed to intimidate. Natalia Mikhailova, "And them, and so the whole city was afraid, and now is afraid. Seen by the court. I think that they thought were killed when they did for it will not. "
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Paulo Filho - Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:30:30 EST ID:1MrSbg5q No.56098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56095

Well that's pretty fucked.

Still though, I'd rather not get a severe beatdown like that. Better to thump him and die than get broken and live in fear.
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Renzo Gracie - Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:25:54 EST ID:YzQbMwpe No.56115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56092

pretty fucking boring fight video. couldnt even watch half of it
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George Sotiropoulos - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:45:10 EST ID:gyAz3AJe No.56239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56092
"This is the reason I believe in fight training. I don't want to be helpless if I ever have to fight against a person like this."

Chances are, if you're literate and live in a developed nation, you won't ever encounter this in your life. People have these irrational phobias in regards to their masculinity and livelihood about fighting or "defending themselves". That man is/was a professional kickboxer. The amount of training and experience he has put it easily surpasses the 10%> threshold. To reach his level, you would have to become a professional fight. But regardless, it's not really something you should ever feel threatened by. And in all honesty, I'd shoot a man dead before dealing with that bullshit. His brain and wits are probably all fucked from brain damage incurred while training, it's also probably what gives him such a ruthless and violent disposition. People like him are a dime-a-dozen, but if you live above a certain class-level you'll never have to deal with him.

P.S. I went one day at this camp where the head muay thai coach asked me who I wanted to spar with for the first time, during light training, and I suggested him (to get the most experience in such a short time). He punished me, like I was challenging him (although I was just curious of his skill and wanted to learn). My face was so bruised, I was punch-drunk for a week after. I decided at that point brain damage, versus intelligence, wasn't worth the discipline of the sport. It also makes people highly aggressive, impulsive, and just unpleasant to be around in most situations, though I've met some really nice ex-pro boxers.


You thinkin by Checkin' D Oil - Wed, 20 May 2015 05:45:01 EST ID:kbke43jc No.56033 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My man Jon Gottchall kills it on the JRE. He wants dat dick worse the most of y'all on /mma. Good points on fighting with no gloves.

Why do we still have to talk about male dominance after then invention of projectile

If there is a deadly weapon to your head does your sex matter? Or your martial background?

you gonna read his book? me either
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Checkin' D Oil - Wed, 20 May 2015 06:03:14 EST ID:kbke43jc No.56037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ment to nb
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Crude Oil - Wed, 20 May 2015 06:11:34 EST ID:kbke43jc No.56038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is he smelling dat finger?

i would :).

African Afagicans!
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Rich Franklin - Sat, 23 May 2015 20:29:53 EST ID:dxwHbs/9 No.56049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That podcast was alright. Too bad I look up his name on Sherdog and he had one pro fight which he lost in under a minute.

Decent points about the gloves, no doubt it would be closest to "natural", and would = less KO's, more hand injuries unless they change technique.

And the basketball court-sized arena would be infinitely better. It's just real as fuck, removes the cage-fucking (which is not found anywhere else) and leaves only real, timed takedowns and lets you see everything.
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Crude Oil - Wed, 27 May 2015 07:28:13 EST ID:kbke43jc No.56062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56049
gotta stop posting while i'm drunk.

he explains that fight. it is apparently a big part of the book. arm-bared like a white belt i guess.

the way the sport is you just cant get rid of um. duke roufus's knuckles. at least wraps would have to be in play. still longevity of your hands decrease exponentially.
those eye-pokes though....pride gloves maybe? (inherently curve your fingers).

no matter how big the ring is people will always exploit the edge. either with cage fucking or endless ring-out/stand up/ resets. Being able to seee the action live is big!

nb
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Charles Oliveira - Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:06:01 EST ID:9hiec2E6 No.56097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56049
A huge ring and half the shitty bastards fighting these days would just turn and run like Houston Alexander, unless you had World Combat League rules against "passivity" and "timidity".


My first MMA fight by Cain Velasquez - Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:53:41 EST ID:cjOxxvCS No.55649 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /mma/

I'm fighting this dude in my first fight next month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JYat_f1reM

bald guy

I'm 6'1 190~ or so. 12 years of TKD / Muay Thai / a little BJJ (I'm 23) I'm mostly a kicking preference type. Since this is my first fight, do any of you more experienced guys have tips? (Pic is me at 195 or so / lifting stats)
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Bob Sapp - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:35:29 EST ID:gyAz3AJe No.56071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To add, that man's stand up game is shit. He's more of a ground and pound type of brawler. If it's worthy anything, try to outbox him. You should do well if it's kept standing. Idk how he won that fight, his opponent was way more consistent and had superior striking. Any work on the ground was just Martinez trying to batter him till he blacked out of tapped.
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Bob Sapp - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:49:55 EST ID:gyAz3AJe No.56072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56071 woops; Ochoa, I mean.
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Tim Sylvia - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 20:48:28 EST ID:sD5T9dtq No.56085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go after his legs. He can't box you without his feet under him. Work on your wrestling so you can have at least a basic takedown defense. Otherwise youre going to smoke him with your standup game, at least I'd hope so with twelve years of TKD and Thai. As long as you stay on your feet you'll dominate.

Otherwise, take it one minute at a time and good luck. You got this!
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 23:04:02 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Uh, I think his fight already happened/didn't happen guys. He said it was "next month" in April. The fact that he didn't come back to post means either a.) didn't happen, b.) he lost, or c.) he's too busy fuckin all the bitches to be on the internet to give us the deets on what went down.
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[name redacted] !6fGmhrVKuE - Tue, 09 Jun 2015 18:25:49 EST ID:m3BFohBA No.56087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56086
Here's hoping for the third outcome


The Ultimate Fighter: American Top Team vs. Blackzilians by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:30:29 EST ID:jsuviyD8 No.55653 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Coming off a historic season that saw the crowning of the UFC’s first-ever Women’s Strawweight champion, the next installment of The Ultimate Fighter looks to raise the stakes once again. For the first time in the show’s 10-year history, a gym versus gym format will be introduced pitting fighters from the famed American Top Team against those from Blackzilians, all while living together under one roof in South Florida. It will be a monumental season, as $500,000, the first-ever The Ultimate Fighter Team Trophy and most importantly, ultimate bragging rights, are all up for grabs. The decisions and strategy determined by each team have never impacted the show as much as they will this season.

This season features eight rising welterweights from each team who will be selected by their respective gym owner to live in a South Florida house alongside their competition. The fighters will continue to train at their home gym with their own coaches and sparring partners. However, fights will no longer be held at a neutral site and now move to the teams’ respective gyms, always leaving one fighter to compete in enemy territory. Adding to the anticipation ahead of each bout, opponents won’t be known until the weigh-in. The culmination of the season will see two fighters meet at The Ultimate Fighter Finale in summer 2015, where the winning gym will be crowned.

The season premieres April 22 at 10pm EDT / 3am BST on Fox Sports 1 and in /mma/tube - http://taima.tv/r/mma. Here are the fighters and coaches for both teams:

>American Top Team:

*Head Coach: Dan Lambert
*Marcelo Alfaya (16-7-1 NC) - Porto Alegre, Brazil
*Steve Carl (21-4) - Belle Plain, Iowa
*Nathan Coy (14-5) - Vallejo, California
*Michael Graves (4-0) - Toledo, Ohio
*Hayder Hassan (6-1) - Fort Lauderdale, Florida
*Sabah Homasi (8-4) - New Brunswick, New Jersey
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Fri, 15 May 2015 07:03:02 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56014
The problem is that the people with talent are never going to be on TUF, UFC will just pick them. All the TUF fighters now are gonna be part of that flooded roster of 500. I've even heard the winner of TUF 18, Chris Holdsworth, is being considered for being cut. That nigga won and hasn't even fought in a YEAR and noone cares. Suffice it to say, no top ten fighters are ever going to be on TUF anymore. UFC has expanded too much, and they continue to do so. They'll just let TUF be their jabroni manufacturing plant.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 20 May 2015 12:15:25 EST ID:jsuviyD8 No.56039 Report Quick Reply
>>56015
TUF has outlived its usefulness in finding new UFC fighters and their ratings aren't what they used to be.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Wed, 20 May 2015 20:57:16 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56039
There's a correlation. Top tier fighters are never going to be on the show anymore (unless it's a women's division season, for now) and the show's simply not going to be entertaining because of it. I caught up on the show and every episode Dana is bitching about how he wants these guys to "go for broke" in their fights, which makes absolutely no sense for the guys since they're all very low quality fighters to begin with AND they have to think about how they're going to potentially fight again in a few weeks. If they stopped their expansion and started holding back on seasons until they find some real talent, maybe TUF could be a cornerstone of UFC programming again. But that'll never happen as long as they're putting on shows every single week and have to fill in contractually obligated air time.

Now, I know what three or four people reading my thoughts are thinking. "Wasn't it Chris Leben pissing on a bed the real reason TUF got popular?" Of course. The problem is, that was pushing boundaries ten years ago. Reality TV has so thoroughly eroded the fabric of society that Felice Herrig can show her cooter on cable television and it's no big deal. And it appears that this season's big "shock" moment was a dude having a fucking seizure on camera. That didn't shock or interest me. It appalled me. The man was close to fucking dying and the camera man's first thought isn't, "HOLY FUCKING SHIT, I NEED TO GET THIS MAN SOME HELP", no, it's "I NEED TO GET THIS ON CAMERA". Fuck Reality TV.
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Don Frye - Sun, 07 Jun 2015 02:06:19 EST ID:dxwHbs/9 No.56081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just got caught up on the whole season. Only thoughts that stick with me are

>Blackzillians are beasts and just fight
>the 3 vets from ATT losing was just sad
>Glenn Robinson is the modern day John du Pont?
>Hayder "I'M NEXT (LEMME BANG) BRO" Hassan

And also, isn't it crazy the level of difference between UFC-tier fighters and guys who are a step below? It's like watching them wade through slow motion, and you can pick nearly any top 15 WW to demolish most of these guys in minutes.

Also, anyone else prefer how they capture video/audio for TUF compared to the production of other UFC events? Feels more raw, true to life, and the audio capturing strikes is better.
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Heath Herring - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 09:57:57 EST ID:XZLMTFM6 No.56084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56081
>Also, anyone else prefer how they capture video/audio for TUF compared to the production of other UFC events? Feels more raw, true to life, and the audio capturing strikes is better.

They're probably using omnidirectional microphones in TUF, exactly to "capture the whole room and what it feels to be there", whereas in the big UFC events that would be impossible due to the insane levels of noise coming from the crowd. A really interesting observation for sure; I'll have to watch some episodes now.


UFC partners with USADA to introduce new drug testing policy by Pimp C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:34:49 EST ID:jsuviyD8 No.56077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/13014746/ufc-announces-extensive-doping-tests-major-punishments

Looks like UFC is cracking down after what happened with Anderson Silva and other fighters recently.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:54:02 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, pretty much. Taking it completely out of house means noone can accuse UFC of playing favorites (those accusations would have to be lobbed at USADA, which doesn't protect people as far as I'm aware) and the UFC fines are actually worse than NSAC. 100% of your purse goes to USADA to fund the program, which gives USADA great incentive to pop people. Certainly we wouldn't be able to have a full-fledged FIFA-like conspiracy of fighters paying out more than the fines would be worth because then it would become unprofitable for them to fight. I just hope they're popping guys in the middle of the night like Da Meltz says so guys start getting scared straight.
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Told you. - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 19:45:14 EST ID:qkoKOIHB No.56079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I told you years ago that most of the fighters are on that dope. High profile BJJ players are next in line.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:15:08 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56079
Yeah you did, and you were right.


Female Fighters and Steroids by Bob Sapp - Thu, 21 May 2015 05:10:19 EST ID:qW133uGb No.56041 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey, /mma/, what female fighters do you think are on the juice? Pic related. Bitch is hella lucky the UFC didn't test her, although given what a joke her match was, I'm not sure if getting busted would have been more or less humiliating.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 21 May 2015 09:07:31 EST ID:jsuviyD8 No.56042 Report Quick Reply
Cyborg
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Cole Konrad - Thu, 21 May 2015 20:04:52 EST ID:k184Kjyx No.56043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Carina Damm was busted for roid use
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Hundu the Beast God - Thu, 04 Jun 2015 22:21:37 EST ID:qW133uGb No.56074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56041
I don't think she actually juices, though. She's just short.


Countdown to UFC's fighter union/association by Tito Ortiz - Mon, 25 May 2015 21:31:20 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56054 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's with the Reebok uniform sponsorship deal? It sucks all round, even for UFC it sucks you'd think they would've made more money allowing a sponsorship free market and keeping their sponsorship taxes (which were extreme) http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/21/8633115/ufc-interview-ryan-jimmo-fighters-abusive-relationship-reebok

Anybody notice that UFC187 hardly anybody walked out with sponsorship (except for Cormier waving that Monster can around)? That's because for 6mos Dana White has been saying Reebok is coming in so all the fighters were dropped, lot's of them don't have a single sponsor anymore since the warning came out.

>tfw the fighters are claiming they made more money in MFC than UFC due to taxes and now Reebok scam
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Anthony Johnson - Wed, 27 May 2015 00:45:13 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's no way guys like GSP will ever come back now, he only qualifies for $40,000 sponsorship money share under the new Reebok agreement, it's the max any of them can get now.

I realize Dana is passing all sorts of "lockeroom bonuses" under the table to fighters and keeping it off the books so every fighter doesn't ask for it, but c'mon $40k sponsorship is a joke for a top fighter.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Wed, 27 May 2015 08:46:04 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56059
Reebok also makes "special" sponsorship deals with certain people, i.e. Paige VanZant is making a hell of a lot more in sponsorship money than she's supposed to be making. All the champions are also under special deals, so I have no idea why they have a $50k tier if they all have their own deal anyways. I do hope a fighter's union happens though, it's really bad for the sport for UFC to be taking as much of the pie as they take while also hiring more and more jabronis to work for nothing only once a year.
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Bigfoot Silva - Thu, 28 May 2015 23:32:06 EST ID:Kd6+NGMO No.56064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fighters need to make a Union soon or MMA will end like wrestling with one man on top.
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Thu, 28 May 2015 23:54:54 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>56064
I think you mean one WOMAN.
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Cain Velasquez - Thu, 04 Jun 2015 00:07:30 EST ID:9zuIdKZl No.56073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jose Aldo talking about making an association
http://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/jose-aldo-says-ufcs-reebok-deal-is-sht-and-wished-there-was-mma-fighters-union

Dana you fool. Just let them wear their goldenpalace.com spam hats and shill their own custom gear. Stop trying to make the UFC into the NFL/MBA/MLB it won't happen


The Martialist by Cain Velasquez - Sat, 03 Aug 2013 06:02:09 EST ID:mia1muep No.52005 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are you a martial artist or a Martialist?
Because clearly being a Martialist is superior, as you can claim to be able to beat any traditional or Mixed martial artist by shooting them. Also you don't need to train, or have any ranks or qualifications, which I think suits this guy fine.
But it does require constant posing with a knife for any photo opportunity, and lifting weights with your eyebrow.
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Trevor Prangley - Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:00:30 EST ID:kuRo0tDu No.54017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>54016
Forgot image.
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Melvin Guillard - Sat, 23 May 2015 01:20:23 EST ID:7n7fM9ai No.56046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>52005

What happens if you are naked and need to have sex but your mistress is actually a flesh eating skeleton

I will try and point Phil Elmore to your thread OP.
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Lorenzo Fertitta - Sat, 23 May 2015 06:00:12 EST ID:Rd+RsC+e No.56047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56046
Phil could afford to lose some flesh.
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[name redacted] !6fGmhrVKuE - Sat, 23 May 2015 16:27:02 EST ID:m//620Rc No.56048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this a meme or is this guy for real?
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Mike Kyle - Wed, 27 May 2015 02:03:30 EST ID:FDucgZ7P No.56061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56048

On the internet, we're all memes.


Funky Eggar pls by Kimo Leopoldo - Sat, 16 May 2015 20:37:07 EST ID:5HT7/YIo No.56021 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Celebratory thread for one of the most underrated UFC fighters, potentially of all time?

It's clear UFC brass love the guy, but he's never been huge with the casual fans, he's always been an MMA favourite, but maybe it's time people really appreciate the dude. Yes, he's been claimed to be a boring point fighter who wins fights on decisions, but Frankie always gives it his all and is NEVER in a dull fight, tonight included. Yes, they're tactical affairs, but they're never uninteresting wrestlefests even when they're one sided, and if they are, its only because he's the stronger side of the coin, which is rare considering his level of competition.

Edgar apparently just broke the UFC octagon time count, which for a lot of people means "hurrdurr point fighter" but on the other side of the coin, it means he's the most experienced fighter in UFC when it comes to time. It shows that because he used to often get cracked in a fight but now it's so rare that he's actually hurt or caught clean and rocked, and he's not hard to hit, especially in the early rounds when he comes forward and hasn't got his timing down.

He also has two trilogies under his belt, one he emphatically won with a knockout nobody thought was possible and seem to have forgotten. He beat BJ Penn three times (some people say BJ won the first fight, I think a lot of that is hinged on BJ's prestige, I had Frankie winning rounds 3-5 and BJ was never the same after that third round for whatever reason). He also gave Aldo and Bendo stiff competition, both undisputed Lightweight and Featherweight champions respectively during their run. A lot of people thought he beat Bendo at least once.

I'm not trying to sit here and portray Frankie Edgar as the best fighter of all time, just he's at a level now where it's unfair to shit on him and act like he's not earned his stripes. And he just made Faber look fucking average. Faber who never loses a title fight and even then it's at least competitive if not close or controversial. He'll go down as one of UFC's most underrated fighters, I suppose because he's not as marketable as a GSP or a Conor McGregor, bu…
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Sat, 16 May 2015 23:22:33 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.56024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought his fight today was pretty dull, just my opinion though. Bisping vs Dollaway was a more enjoyable fight to me, and it wasn't even considered a "superfight" like this was supposed to be. Neither of them were in trouble at any point of the fight. Also, I wouldn't attribute his making Faber look like a jabroni wholly to Edgar, it just seemed like Faber wasn't doing anything at all, and certainly not going for the chokes he's normally well-known for. Again, just my opinion, I certainly respect yours.
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[name redacted] !6fGmhrVKuE - Sun, 17 May 2015 02:43:57 EST ID:m//620Rc No.56026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If Frankie isn't my favourite fighter of all time, he's in my top 3. His last two fights with Gray Maynard are the kind that make a person's career, and that's coming off of his first 2 fights with Penn as well. The way he never gives up and always comes back is so inspirational, I don't think there's another fighter in the UFC with as much raw heart and determination as this guy has. He gets absolutely demolished in the first round of both of those fights and still comes back, to even knock out Maynard in the 3rd fight. It's incredible how resilient this guy is, and you hardly ever see him get tired either, or if he does, you don't notice it because he pushes through it. Both Bendo fights were awesome to watch as well, and both were so close. Frankie getting his nose kicked off in I think the 1st fight and somehow managing to survive that fight is incredible, let alone that he made it a competitive fight.

Let's not forget that during his time at lightweight as well, he was walking around at about 160lb max, he hardly cut weight at all, and was up against guys up to just under 200lb in Maynard's case. The way he keeps his technique and foot work up while still being beaten up and at a point where he should be tired is a thing of beauty. I can watch his fights for hours on repeat after each other because his footwork and all the different ways he enters and exits a combo is just so magical to me, the way he times his shots as well. I can't think of another fighter who does it as consistently as him because his footwork is fantastic.

I was really hoping that he would've beat Aldo because he is more than good enough to be champion of that division, but Aldo also is a god himself. I think Frankie might beat him if they fought again, but I believe he has a better chance against McGregor. I don't know, his striking and spacing is pretty good but no-one has been able to put away Frankie and he's faced some of the biggest hits from the biggest hitters and kept going. Size may be an issue on the takedowns as well, but Frankie's been fighting bigger guys his whole career, and McGregor is only an inch taller than Maynard and I would doubt he's near Mayn…
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Martin Kampmann - Sun, 17 May 2015 05:11:30 EST ID:FDucgZ7P No.56027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been a huge fan since I saw him whip Tyson Griffon as a 6:1 dog in his first UFC fight, and he's been my favorite since he whipped BJ the second time.

>>56024

A technical masterpiece for the last 3 rounds, I really enjoyed it either way both as an exhibition of skill and because I love Edgar.

Of course it's not the gutsy thriller that his Maynard/Henderson fights were but it was really up to Faber to make it that way. Edgar was ALWAYS going to dominate the technical battle and Faber should have known going in that he was going to have to make the fight a little ugly, open it up a little, to win. It's just a little unfortunate for a guy who is so good at scrambling, who is so impossible to hold down to be so conservative when he's getting beaten striking but I guess you don't train to be the second best guy in the cage.
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Sokoudjou - Fri, 22 May 2015 16:06:47 EST ID:XZLMTFM6 No.56044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56021
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Sokoudjou - Fri, 22 May 2015 16:07:08 EST ID:XZLMTFM6 No.56045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cool thread. Just want to say that I really, really want to see Edgar get up there for title fights again.


Grappling Boards? by Brian Bowles - Mon, 18 May 2015 22:33:59 EST ID:1DypGE7m No.56029 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are there any pure grappling boards out there?

I'm wanting to just be able to discuss stuff on the fly, and be able to get help from people on stuff like guard passing etc. There's circlejerk (r/bjj), but circlejerk is circlejerk. There's also some threads on the future /asp/, but to be honest most of the people there don't know what they're talking about.
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Brian Bowles - Mon, 18 May 2015 22:34:55 EST ID:1DypGE7m No.56030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow, that filter is gold.
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[name redacted] !6fGmhrVKuE - Tue, 19 May 2015 04:58:51 EST ID:m//620Rc No.56032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56030
I only know of the Sherdog grappling forums but I don't really use them much. Most of the people I know that talk to other grapplers on the internet they don't know use like Facebook groups and pages and stuff. Just watch out because most sites I've seen though are really cliquey and only like those who talk about their own affiliates and stuff.


Unknown Wins/Losses by Brian Bowles - Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:50:59 EST ID:dxwHbs/9 No.55655 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are there any wins/losses that you have discovered in fighter's careers that are entirely surprising?

There are numerous in the sport, but I just discovered that Akihiro Gono, one of those jouryneyman, middle-tier Japanese fighters with a 34-19 record at one point defeated Hector Lombard and Gegard Mousasi (by armbar) in succession, being one of the few breaks in their typical winning ways.

>pic unrelated, though Lawler had some losses back in the days (like to Mayhem Miller)
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Lorenzo Fertitta - Fri, 01 May 2015 10:49:30 EST ID:luZQV2Hi No.55733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There was that one double KO with Shoney Carter refereeing.
It looked like he declared himself the winner, lol.
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Dennis Hallman - Wed, 13 May 2015 01:53:11 EST ID:dxwHbs/9 No.56009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Chris Leben KO'd Wanderlei in 27 seconds lol
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[name redacted] !6fGmhrVKuE - Wed, 13 May 2015 08:27:19 EST ID:L1VAwQIb No.56010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56009
Man I was so hyped for that fight, I was expecting some kind of huge war where they both run at each other for 3 rounds, but I guess with guys so aggressive an early knockout shouldn't have been a surprise.

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I'm pretty sure in the Matt Hughes vs Carlos Newton fight Hughes lifts up Newton while he's being held in a triangle and holds him against the fence, then either slams him and passes out or passes out and slams him and the slam knocks out Carlos Newton, but the referee doesn't notice Hughes is out and announces him the winner when he comes to in about 5 seconds. Pretty hilarious waking up from a triangle choke and being told you're the new Welterweight champion.
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Rani Yahya - Fri, 15 May 2015 20:34:43 EST ID:L1mTuM/D No.56019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When Anderson Silva lost to Daiju Takase. Anderson just came off a very impressive win against Carlos Newton and everyone expected Anderson to steamroll Takase. What a loss indeed.
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Ricco Rodriguez - Sat, 16 May 2015 11:45:58 EST ID:dxwHbs/9 No.56020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56019
Yeah, any of Anderson's losses are pretty special. Really got out-grappled in that fight and that transition to the triangle was pretty damn slick.

Jeremy Horn has 91 wins and 22 losses with notable 3 wins over Chael Sonnen as well as head-kick KO'ing Forrest Griffin and subbing Chuck Liddell


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