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What a fucking failure by Cole Konrad - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:57:07 EST ID:CNmIRR2q No.55330 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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She gets paid for this level of competition? I can just run at someone with my arm out and instantly tap too, could I please be paid thousands and thousands? Fucking disgrace, she didn't even try. Was reckless and stupid. So disappointing.
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Mike Russow - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:07:14 EST ID:JMMLhYVT No.55331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is any other woman on her level? I would like to see a fight where she has an equal opponent.
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Brett Rogers - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 18:02:43 EST ID:tJfYyZYv No.55333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55331
If Cyborg drops 10 pounds then we might find out.
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Mamed Khalidov - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:08:24 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.55335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55333
She'd also have to give up the roids, bullshark semen and that ancillary testicle she had implanted in her armpit.
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Cole Miller - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:11:20 EST ID:5HT7/YIo No.55337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Fucking disgrace, she didn't even try.

If anything she tried too hard.

But anyway, fuck people like you.


Josh Neer destroys a bully by Gabriel Gonzaga - Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:32:09 EST ID:VIEYoerV No.55276 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://youtu.be/oW_DC_4ws_4

holy fuck dem elbows
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CM Punk (Team Act Yasukawa) !uhdacqdci6 - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:54:32 EST ID:s7PHVekK No.55304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55288
Yeah, until CM Punk has his fight. Then again, at least Punk isn't calling out Christopher Weidman or GSP or Anderson "PEDs" Silva and getting the fight.
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George Roop - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:14:36 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is all kinds of stupid. First of all Neer is a total pussy for getting in a soccer kick to the head when they were pulled a part. People with no self control should not be professional fighters period because they will end up easily baited and fuck up their careers.

Second, this is all done for marketing. The unknown fighter wants to be known so spreads a bunch of bullshit, threats and heelish nonsense everywhere he can. It doesn't matter if he gets his ass handed to him either because now he's created a rivalry which will be picked up by promotions and he will get paid.
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Rich Franklin - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:32:19 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.55309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55305
>a soccer kick to the head
Supposedly he lost his balance and didn't actually kick him. Smells of bullshit to me, but you can't really tell in the video so who knows.
>People with no self control should not be professional fighters period because they will end up easily baited and fuck up their careers.
Neer isn't exactly a shining example of a role model to begin with.
>he's created a rivalry which will be picked up by promotions
How exactly is that supposed to work since they are three weight classes apart?
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Tim Sylvia - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:58:02 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55309
They will find him matches, just wait. 177 major media articles on 'MMA Patrick Martin' right now on google news. MMA is business first, skill and everything else a distant second.
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Rich Franklin - Sun, 01 Mar 2015 09:28:45 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.55320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55310
Well of course they will, he was already scheduled to make his debut when this went down. That's not the same thing as "creating a rivalry which will be picked up by promotions".


MMA Top Connecting Fighters by Kaoru Uno - Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:53:50 EST ID:qsbbeKHw No.55155 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup Guise

I decided to start working on a homework assignment for mma.

I just joined an mma gym a month ago. Going in I thought that I was a decent fighter; I had studied tae kwon do, self taught some boxing, and learned a krav maga spin off from a higher end retired body guard.

I went in the gym and realized I know virtually nothing.

I've got ok foot work, and ok counter kicks. But I can't box for shit, I can barely grapple, and my jujitsu is beginner at best. I learn so much new shit every time I go into the gym it's ridiculous. But after a month of getting my ass kicked, I'm starting to realize that I don't actually have style of fighting.

So I want to start building my idealized style now. I figure the best way to go about it is to study the champs.

I want to know who has the most connecting combos, and learn it. I want to know who has the most connecting jabs and make it mine. I want to know who has the most connecting take downs and make it mine.

Basically I want to learn a mutant hybrid of the best offense/defense methods from the champs out there, but I've never been a real watcher, more of a doer. You guys will know way more about the best fighters out there and I want your help finding out what they are.
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Gray Maynard - Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:55:28 EST ID:DR61lcmB No.55294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>55271
>>55275
Capped.
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Gray Maynard - Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:01:44 EST ID:DR61lcmB No.55295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55281
By not getting hit in the face. If you're on the ground, you should get better position so you don't get hit cleanly, or such that you can hit him or her better. If you're standing up, then footwork is king, head movement is queen.

If you're asking how to inure yourself to punches, don't. You get used to being punched at, not necessarily being punched. You keep a cool head by working on your defense via foot and body positioning, then keeping your hands up.
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Jeff Monson - Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:05:58 EST ID:RfG1fnQS No.55297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55295
Pretty smart guy here, we're shelling out some top-notch advice in this thread, seems to be a better community than 90% of Sherdog's forums.

Big lesson:
>footwork is king, head movement is queen

Absolutely. Watch when fighters get blasted against the cage (unfortunately the fight that comes to mind is legend BJ Penn getting demolished by Nick Diaz), what are they lacking? Lateral movement to circle away from strikes, and the head movement to avoid (by just centimeters at times) full connecting power shots. So the opposite of that? Keep your feet moving in short steps, and move your upper body with your head to avoid shots.

>>55281

Not much advice to give in terms of grappling, much harder to give advice because your ability to 'win' is based much more off of mat-time and solid technique. Basic philosophy though; the wrestling aspect is based on aggressive, non-stop, tenacious take-downs and scrambling. Never give up a takedown, pop right back up, and if you are stuffed going for the takedown, back out and re-enter or just switch up the shot and keep driving and cutting the corner. Jiu-jitsu is pretty different, you gotta flow, capitalize on mistakes and use technique to avoid submissions.

Fighters to watch for grappling; Carlos Condit & Donald Cerrone for activity off of their back in an MMA setting, guys with sick overall BJJ: Joe Lauzon, Demetrious Johnson, Jacare Souza just to name a few.
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George Roop - Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:21:08 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You learn to punch by going to a boxing coach. Go to one. Silva did, Jones did, most of the top MMA trainers are all ex pro boxing coaches or boxers themselves.

Then they hire pro grappling guys as assistant coaches. The secret to MMA, is you bring your mastery of something nobody expects, like a TKD kick nobody has seen before in the ring. So like Silva, has typical mastery of standard boxing/counters, and JJ, but he has surprise Muay Thai moves he pulls out of nowhere in the middle of fights.

tl;dr
Go to a boxing gym.
Bring that experience to MMA class.
Fight like every other MMA fighter.
Surprise them with a personal arsenal of Krav Maga/TKD moves they won't expect, and more importantly know when to throw them so you don't get countered.
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Cain Velasquez - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 03:18:11 EST ID:bDhFv9Rv No.55340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55306
Yeah, "i cant box fer shit" is a problem.

Go to a boxing gym, not a boxfit one but one where you can spar.

Boxing is pretty fundamental in mma, it doesn't mean fight like a boxer, but know how to throw a punch.


UWM or Unified Weapons Master by War Machine - Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:32:44 EST ID:LAcJOkC/ No.55268 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you guys think about this? Somehow I just ran across this and it looks awesome, if not a bit cumbersome. I'm sure that a few of you have looked into this way more than I have and I'm wondering, will it kick off? It seems like a cool idea at first, but the suits look cumbersome and bloodsport without the blood might be boring.

Anyways, here's a link with more info! http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/unified-weapons-master-future-fighting/
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Scott Jorgensen - Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:13:59 EST ID:jcBWDijb No.55274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm intrigued, but I feel like it all really depends on how well they can fairly implement their scoring system. I would imagine seeing a lot of dudes just using polearms/bo staffs to outrange and out point opponents
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Manny Gamburyan - Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:08:29 EST ID:+zNY97eX No.55279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They should collaborate with the bear attack survival suit guy. Also, they will never have armor strong enough unless they blunt the edges and tips of their weapons. At that point, fight with nerf swords.

I'd like to see custom-recalibrated guns and lo-explosives included in their gladiator arena, they're doing this for entertainment anyways. Why not give it some razzle-dazzle?
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Joe Rogan - Wed, 25 Feb 2015 04:41:32 EST ID:FDucgZ7P No.55284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's no anbo jyutsu, the ultimate evolution of the martial arts.


Who would you bet on to win in a fight? by Ricardo Almeida - Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:57:36 EST ID:rrnB6gEm No.55213 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you had to choose, disregarding technique or experience, based only on the photo and stats. Guy on left/top: 5'11 175lbs. Guy on right: 5'9 170lbs.
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Daniel Cormier - Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:06:06 EST ID:D8OA4BPg No.55214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Leonard Garcia.
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Luiz Cane - Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:47:53 EST ID:yGj5Oi2M No.55227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55214
by split decision
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Giant Silva - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:56:16 EST ID:lqzZkU4M No.55242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/b/s consensus was that they would end up having gay sex and neither would be a winner.
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Marcus Davis - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:41:35 EST ID:Y/kND4st No.55244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The left one.

The one on the right looks more fight-oriented.
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Bas Rutten - Thu, 19 Feb 2015 01:34:12 EST ID:JB0VHacI No.55250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I simply can't make any choice that pretends to be informed.
A guy may look pudgy but he may also be a redneck motherfucker who can take 40 punches to the face and kicks like a mule.
A guy may look cut but it turns out he does Muay Thai and he runs 2 miles every day before doing a thousand burpees and kicking trees down.
Fighting is a skill. Looking good or big rarely lets you guess who can fight the better.


HAHAHAHAHAHA by Red Machine D !ZlA7FatAss - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:57:49 EST ID:+K/Sa8SV No.55245 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/12338927/anderson-silva-fails-second-drug-test
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Is Velasquez trainer a total fraud? by Jon Fitch - Sun, 08 Feb 2015 00:50:31 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55203 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>300 pounds of stationary/isolated Leg extensions
>The average NFL lineman does 15 reps, Cain will be doing 50 reps. Later we have him doing 100 reps
>Ok "explode into it"
>torn meniscus and sprained MCL in his right knee
>hasn't fought since 2013
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Kenny Florini - Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:21:55 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.55226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55224
Focus on kicking speed/strength maybe? But since he rarely uses kicks, kinda seems like that would be a waste anyway.
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Ken Shamrock - Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:59:59 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55209
Speaking of ridiculous training, I saw this segment where Sean Sherk was preparing for a match by endlessly running up hills with a snorkel taped to his face in order to "restrict his oxygen".

Then he takes a flying knee to the face in the fight and is out. Dude, should have maybe worked on fighting skills a little and not this silly running wearing a snorkel shit.
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Riki Fukuda - Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:06:20 EST ID:SfIPG2jg No.55239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55232
Training with a mask on is fairly common. Apparently if you restrict the amount of air you can take in at a time your lungs will get stronger trying to force more air in.
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Bart Palazewski - Mon, 16 Feb 2015 04:24:28 EST ID:FDucgZ7P No.55240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>all these elite fitness trainers on the internet

All of the dubious admonitions against leg extensions point to sheering forces in the patella completely unrelated to an MCL tear.

>>55224

It's a conditioning thing that's why he's doing it for high reps. You do the leg extensions to focus on the endurance of that muscle more exactly without draining your overall stamina like a squat would.
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RiseAboveHat !O614TgGD/k - Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:06:06 EST ID:oOwC1dwv No.55241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>55232
You need to have good cardio. Should've got one of these though


Playing Possum by Jonathan Brookins - Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:23:53 EST ID:Z9Wamj4y No.51967 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it okay for a cage fighter to play possum as a way to win a fight? Is it against the rules? Will he lose points of proven so? Will he be disqualified? Will it make him look unsportsmanlike?
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Nate Marquardt - Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:34:12 EST ID:6A/cYNyS No.52639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>52051
I've made some crappy taima coded posts that I reported on myself. You can report your own posts and explain why.
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Pat Barry - Fri, 25 Oct 2013 23:40:51 EST ID:DNkbVR/B No.52647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
UFC if the ref sees you turtling and not fighting back, or if you pretend to be injured you're done fight is called. JDS fell on his head and KO'd himself last match, was turtled and that was it
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xXxDarkDeathDestroyerxXx !7xZJgUcGY2 - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:03:43 EST ID:fWauHx6M No.55174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not MMA, but in BJJ when one of my friends is competing and a guy locks on a choke, but has it on his jaw instead of his neck, he makes fake choking and gagging sounds so the guy thinks he has it on and squeezes really hard. Then after he's used all his energy and tired his arms out trying to slap on a useless choke, he just breaks it and keeps grappling.
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DaMarques Johnson - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 23:29:27 EST ID:D8OA4BPg No.55176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Playing possum is pretty lame in my opinion but it's always up to the fighters to make sure they aren't getting suckered into doing something dumb. That Pete Sell/Scott Smith vid should be a reminder that even if a guy is hurt they might still have the power and wherewith-all to turn the tables.

It also doesn't always work out. Just ask Anderson Silva.
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Emmanuel Yarborough - Sun, 15 Feb 2015 01:27:18 EST ID:8Yq+v+LJ No.55233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait...if my understanding of the word "Possum" is correct..

Does that mean The Mountain was possuming to defeat the Red Viper in Game of Thrones? Would he be disqualified in the eyes of the old gods and the new?


Body Kicks by xXxDarkDeathDestroyerxXx !7xZJgUcGY2 - Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:04:34 EST ID:1CAevZgu No.55081 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, what are your opinions on how whether to kick with the shin or with the ball of your foot with roundhouse kicks? I've generally always been the shin kind of guy but I spent a lot of December training with my friend who trains Shotokan and was telling me to land with the ball of my foot when throwing body kicks. I sort of dismissed him because lolshotokan but when I thought I might as well give it a shot during training last week during competition sparring (basically we go hard). I really liked the extra range it was giving me, and it seemed to have more of an oomph in it, I even managed to stop one of the guys after I landed about 4. It also seemed to be harder to grab, which was one of my big weaknesses with body kicks.

The only real thing I'm worried about though is that if catch an elbow or something it will probably break my foot right? It just seems a bit fragile unless I land on the soft parts of the body, although I did catch the forearm a couple of times and didn't really feel much, and it might've affected them.

I'll probably keep going with shin kicks on the thigh because I think the risk of catching a knee or a shin off a check is too great, and it'll hurt me more if I land them, but keep going shin kicks to the body until I feel comfortable in being able to land with the ball of the foot or if I can make openings. Still probably keep going with shin (or instep if I can't reach) for head kicks though.

What do you guys think of the different techniques?
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Sergei Kharitonov - Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:03:10 EST ID:Zi+KQnFz No.55082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm like Bill Wallace, I use the instep because I can't bend my toes back far enough to use the ball. I only had a problem once when I landed with the very end of my foot and hyperextended my ankle.
The only guy I've seen kick with the toes is James Ryan, but I've heard that's a thing in Okinawa-Te.
Maurice Smith has that crazy crocodile kick that drops down on your thigh or neck. Bas Rutten says to kick in straight across the thigh muscle, though, like cutting meat across the muscle fibres.
There's also the switch kick to the inside thigh, and the inverted roundhouse if you're in opposite stances.
One of the best leg kicks I've seen was Stan Longinidis, he broke Dennis Alexio's leg within a few seconds of their fight starting.
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Ben Rothwell - Sat, 24 Jan 2015 23:14:41 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watch Bas Rutten vids he explains everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgrHiWlpRGc

You can torrent that whole combat vid somewhere, he talks exactly how shit can go wrong if certain kicks are checked with a knee and you end up Anderson Silva well-cooked-piece-of-asparagus-limp leg.
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Gary Goodridge - Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:16:48 EST ID:zmKx+NwK No.55094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55090
More like a piece of fettuccine.
But yeah, low power kicks off the rear leg like that are precipitous. Possibly even cavalier. And they smack of insouciance!
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Rousimar Palhares - Fri, 06 Feb 2015 18:14:38 EST ID:0GSwg+j6 No.55199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55090
If someone knows where to find a torrent of Bas Rutten's combat videos then I would be very gratefull.
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Paulo Thiago - Sat, 07 Feb 2015 19:19:52 EST ID:qE+9Yv/R No.55202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One guy at my gym broke his foot from an elbow check to the foot during light sparring through his leg guards. Again I would like to emphasize the light part.


HA HA by Red Machine D !ZlA7FatAss - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 17:30:31 EST ID:+K/Sa8SV No.55172 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/12275934/anderson-silva-nick-diaz-test-positive-drugs
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Dennis Hallman - Thu, 05 Feb 2015 04:52:01 EST ID:ib2yUJfl No.55181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
#roidmonkey
#neverwastheGOATafterall
#boycottsilva
#brazilaintnatty


Immortal by Zoila Frausto - Sun, 11 May 2014 01:54:25 EST ID:FIqgO73S No.53804 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You're in the club and this guy slaps your girlfriends ass.

What do you do?
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Mike Goldberg - Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:16:39 EST ID:kCIunT9y No.54118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Take his face..... OFF.
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Tyron Woodley - Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:36:07 EST ID:PBwHBQlo No.54664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>53804
What does this even have to do with immortality?
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Ken Shamrock - Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:05:29 EST ID:1hLY4hZQ No.54665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>54664
Well the thread clearly won't die, will it TYRON?
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Gabriel Gonzaga - Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:17:21 EST ID:+zNY97eX No.54666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Don't worry be happy.
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Cole Miller - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 17:04:16 EST ID:nqIH9eU8 No.55170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>53804
taser, gtfo


This is why Jiu Jitsu sucks in real world applications by Viacheslav Datsik - Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:53:30 EST ID:Lu9WPHBN No.55119 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27FH-nXP1xU
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Shogun Rua - Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:14:40 EST ID:ZsWuWp1W No.55133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55131
There's overzealous sports dads banned from little league games here for trying to fight little kids on the other team and the umpire so jabronis fighting during basketball is no surprise.
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Gilbert Melendez - Sun, 01 Feb 2015 02:58:01 EST ID:DipYwTFE No.55138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55123

Umm, getting knocked out and hitting your head on a basketball court is also potentially life changing. He shouldn't be swinging at someone over basketball, I would've snapped anything I could go for.
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Chuck Liddell - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:31:47 EST ID:FDucgZ7P No.55162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some purple belt this guy is, he didn't even Berimbolo!

http://instagram.com/p/yqwan0Cths/
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xXxDarkDeathDestroyerxXx !7xZJgUcGY2 - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:27:41 EST ID:fWauHx6M No.55164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>55162
Is berimbolo even something you'd want to use in a self-defense situation?
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Cole Miller - Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:45:56 EST ID:nqIH9eU8 No.55168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>55119
He defended himself with JJ, I see no problem. If someone wants to scrap over some bullshit and gets permanently screwed up that's their fault.


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