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Justice League by The Re-animator - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:43:37 EST ID:Zh/sUEXx No.391087 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's talk about The Justice League.
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Oliver Stone - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:50:24 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.391147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391146
I loved WW too but let's not act like it's 100% on RT yeah?
Maybe he's being sincere. Just tell him he has shit taste.
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The Warden - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:46:45 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391144
>Compared to the previous DCU movies Wonder Woman was a 10/10 masterpiece.

Which is why I always feel like Nolan's Batman work doesn't fit into DCU at all. That was some good superhero movie making. Then we get BvS and it all goes to shit....
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John Connor - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:05:49 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.391150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391148
Yeah by DCU i just mean Man of Steel/Batman v Superman/Suicide Squad. Also don't forget their aborted attempt to start a new continuity lwith Green Lantern lol. It's gonna get confusing now though since they're apparently working on standalone DC movies outside the current continuity too.
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Rufus - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:41:10 EST ID:TM0f1ER8 No.391152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The dialogue and plot were written by a 12 year old, it's just a string of one-liners, and the fight choreography was dull and repetitive beyond the set piece with the Amazons and the 20 second flashback war scene. Barry runs away, Aquaman punches the same dude the same way 5000 times, Batman exclusively swings on a rope and kicks people, Wonder Woman is doing shockwave shit with her bracers 99% of the time. Cyborg shoots his arm cannon twice and that's about it. Every fight was just Signature Move (tm) spammed over and over. Like if DBZ was just Goku shooting kamehamehas and nothing else; too bland for a super hero movie.

Gal Gadot is the only reason to watch this movie, she gets plenty of screen time, but not enough to justify it.

This movie is totally missable. If you wait to watch it on USA or Showtime with all the Febreeze commericals cut in, you won't be missing out on any of the experience.

I'd give it a 5/10. It's a movie, and it wasn't painful to watch.
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Bubbles - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:23:32 EST ID:kZ2PjT+d No.391153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A lot more entertaining than the same garbage that Marvel puts out every year.


Superhero/Comics general thread #5 by Jenny Agutter - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:09:09 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.390595 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Capes n' shit.

Old thread: >>373577

>For all comic adaptations and all superhero discussion - C-Higgy
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Saruman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:37:00 EST ID:ZyGmEpux No.391096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391066
Yes. Even if you don't end up liking it it's got some sexy ass fight scenes
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ONERAIN11 - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:00:02 EST ID:t7LimZTT No.391125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391075
>HDTV camrip
I thought the point of camrips is to be of ass-quality...
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Oliver Stone - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 07:11:15 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.391141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391125
As in I put a HDMI in my laptop & watched it on a bigass TV. Sorry, I'm quite technologically illiterate. Thought "logs" in IRC simply meant all the prior posts you see when you scroll up right up until I used the term trying to sell Spardot & Kirk on something.
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The Warden - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:55:34 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391125
I can only guess at what they have to rename Thor in Chinese...

Probably something like, White-Devil Thunder God 3 - Big Space Fight.
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Rufus - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:26:40 EST ID:TM0f1ER8 No.391151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391149
Don't they just use their script, but phonetically? So they would call it "Thor: End of the World", but the characters that make the sound for "thor" would mean something like "blue happy fast" if read literally.

I know that's what they do with videogames, like League of Legends. The names of characters officially are all gibberish nonsense that sounds phonetically like their English names, and the Chinese just give them descriptive nicknames. They call Lucian "two guns Obama", Ziggs is "bomb rat", Caitlyn is "sniper girl", etc, because Chinese isn't a phonetic script and it would be more difficult or weird to call the black guy with two guns "rising swim iron school".


Vice Principals season 2 by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:36:24 EST ID:J2nxIdks No.388351 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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As the tumultuous school year at North Jackson High School continues, a new semester brings big changes – and Neil Gamby and Lee Russell are about to learn that the only thing harder than gaining power is holding on to it.

The final season premieres at 10:30pm EDT on HBO
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Pamela Hensley - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 15:23:09 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.390578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There are so many possibilities that I really don't know who to think did it.
It's pretty awesome that a show with this kind of humor can be so good at being a mystery as well.
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Sybil Danning - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:17:01 EST ID:7dDegsi+ No.390596 Report Quick Reply
rotflol that fucking fight scene was too good
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Roger Moore - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:47:52 EST ID:XRHVCi/6 No.390927 Report Quick Reply
WHat was with the Dark Knight Rises ending? Is Russel really alive or was that job at a department store just a Gamby hallucination?
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Juan Cena - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 22:23:04 EST ID:MXrdzvn5 No.390951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390927

They simply moved on with their own lives because there is no point for them to reconnect.
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Joy Peters - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:06:22 EST ID:SR596Qce No.391142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This show needs more love. Finished it off last night. The Spring Break episode in particular had me in stitches. Danny McBride can do no wrong. Goggings is amazing too. I dunno if that's his first comedy role but he absolutely smashed it.


Documentaries thread by .xXBluntmasterXx. - Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:43:58 EST ID:lGQQ5mSq No.297354 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Documentary thread commence!

Post the name of any documentaries you would like to share, preferably along with a short description.
Or ask for documentaries about subjects you like or are curious about.
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Nove - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:51:38 EST ID:Y5EtdsdZ No.390798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are there any good docos on Vietnam War?
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Michael Scott - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:06:30 EST ID:jXZB3sev No.390806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390798
Ken Burns just recently put out a docuseries called The Vietnam War that aired on PBS.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877514/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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John Locke - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:55:35 EST ID:J2nxIdks No.391115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just watched ESPN's 30 for 30: Nature Boy. Even if you're not a wrestling fan, it's a very emotional and uplifting documentary about Ric Flair that's worth watching - https://pastebin.com/NzaYJTD8

Any other 30 for 30 documentaries besides OJ: Made in America and This Was the XFL that are any good?
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Humbert Humbert - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:38:45 EST ID:1lHAD7ws No.391138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390798
This one was pretty good, explains a lot of the politics behind the war (and the pointlessness of it).
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Matt Smith - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:48:42 EST ID:36qWrDag No.391140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391115
Broke is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elfw0ESih-A


The Punisher on Netflix by Lanes Pyres - Sun, 03 Sep 2017 11:00:19 EST ID:bJ19mpiO No.387657 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have no idea why some random youtubers uploaded the Punisher Trailer before netflix official channel.

But who else is hyped for Marvels Punisher on Netflix?

Do you think they'll keep the violence?

Do you think they will use parts of the Punisher-VG-OST?

Anyone remembers the funeral-scene in the Punisher Level, when you popped out the coffin and mowed down the Mafia-Family?
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The Warden - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:28:51 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391108
So...typical for the Netflix section of the Marvel Universe....
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Matt Smith - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:00:22 EST ID:36qWrDag No.391116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391114
Exactly, and that makes it not worth a watch. If it's equal parts cool moments and dull plot extenders, I'm out.
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The Warden - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:50:06 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391116
Honestly, I wonder if a good fan edit couldn't fix it. Just cut out the extraneous shit in the middle and make like, one, 8 hour long edit that is just a tight story arc with no bullshit.

Not that I'd be the guy to do it, but still...some of those fan edits can be decent.
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Gamera - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:28:43 EST ID:CohhAK3B No.391129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just started. had to pause 5 mins in. I can't believe how poorly done that opening was, so cheesy, so cliche, it felt like a Cable tv show from 10 years ago. The editing....my god....such poor continuity and attention to detail. Two guys are right outside the stall when he has a man pleading for his life and screaming, they don't acknowledge any of that but when he makes a gurgling noise from being strangled they go "hurr get a room" , shell randomly ejecting from a bolt action, bolt automatically closes but his hand doesn't move, 0 recoil on scope-cam shot, gets up and leaves, ejected a shell casing and left a crime scene for literally no reason, cheesy rock guitar cues right after he kills a guy..theres more too but i'm rambling.. and this is 5 fucking minutes in lol

Gonna keep going because I like bernthal a bit and I love the punisher. Is it so hard to make action scenes semi-realistic. Don't say "oh it's a comic book movie" because that doesn't mean they couldn't put a bit of effort in to making things feel gritty and brutal and well executed.
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Leeta - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:45:12 EST ID:Kgxd2qyJ No.391139 Report Quick Reply
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>>391129
My favorite was when Frank hangs on a roof and the backdrop of the city and ocean was a green screen backdrop, but instead of depicting motion it was a frozen image showing a big wave just frozen mid-splash (since they were loo lazy to film a background they just slapped a pic up, only who the fuck takes a picture depicting motion for a supposed backdrop?)


Jack Ma makes better Donnie Yen scene than Star Wars by Tony Soprano - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:48:23 EST ID:/x/+eg06 No.391094 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5QWgeIo9J0

Well, Rogue One completely shit the bed on their chance to utilize Donnie Yen as a supporting character, and simply gave him an annoying mantra to repeat until he got to hit some stormtroopers with a stick. That's all he did in the entire film. For reference to his potential as an actor, see 14 Blades, Ip Man, Hero, etc. Meanwhile, Jack Ma, the fuckin' guy with the alien head who owns Alibaba and is the richest dude in China, recruits several of the biggest names in Chinese martial arts including Donnie to dick around and make a 20 minute film just so he could pay the fee to be a super badass for a short fantasy and it's a thousand times better than blind stick man lol. Youtube seems to be taking down some of the vids so no promises this link will remain functional.
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Jake Morgendorffer - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 05:36:34 EST ID:bytHZHsp No.391098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391094
this sucked, didn't even get 3 min in before turning it off
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ONERAIN11 - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:51:25 EST ID:uVBSb60N No.391133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391098
You didn't mention Jet Li as the broom-sweep.

The fight chereography was fine but it was so video-gamey and devoid of any depth. Also uses a lot of chinese tropes which are not as universal as the director would like to think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykmZp5cgbkU
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Samsara Siddhartha - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:04:46 EST ID:h2Y9/XJl No.391136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391094
All that money and no taste to be found.


Anime ~ April 2017 by 4Drumpf - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 07:55:33 EST ID:98i5hoEw No.381023 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What anime are you looking forward to this season?
http://anichart.net/Spring-2017
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ONERAIN11 - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:01:56 EST ID:t7LimZTT No.391126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391124
*sniff*
Opps.. wrong pic
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ONERAIN11 - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:55:51 EST ID:blG2mNhM No.391134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Peace
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Genophyte - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:57:53 EST ID:ri96qASQ No.391135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391126
If this was cannon there would be riots worldwide
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Buzz Lightyear - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 06:05:05 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.391137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391126

i heard about this, really really sucks.
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genophyte - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 08:21:24 EST ID:I9nPhzzV No.391143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391137
oh wait wow duuude that sucks , Hiromi Tsuru was in a fuckton of things.

for me her most memorable was in ranma 1/2 and now the feels because i just found out she was Kim Kabirov in macross


DOLLAR THEATRE OPTIONS by Doctor Manhattan - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:27:23 EST ID:ge/PVe3R No.389951 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Which of these movies should I see at my local dollar theatre? AKA which of these movies are worth seeing in theatres for basically free?

(Already seent Dunkirk and Cars 3)
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Jack Torrance - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:19:48 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.391034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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AMC theaters just extended a promotion until mid-December. If you're a member of their rewards program (even just free member; paid membership isn't necessary) you can catch $5 matinees on Tuesdays. It's not a dollar theater, but close enough.

Been getting cross-faded and catching up on stuff myself.
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Gyp Rosseti - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:46:53 EST ID:YV1pP+B4 No.391040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Spiderman is alright. I wouldn't recommend it at full price, but for a dollar it's not a bad choice.
Logan Lucky is pure Soderbergh. If you like his stuff, I'd recommend paying whatever you have to to see it. If you're unfamiliar with the guy... if you liked the Ocean's trilogy with George Clooney, you'll like Logan Lucky. I think it's a little more subtle with the humor than Ocean's was, though. I still crack up thinking about Joe Bang explaining the chemistry behind his gummy bear explosive.
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Teal'c - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:01:49 EST ID:PPBdRS2a No.391041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391034

lol Cinemark has been doing that for years and for a hell of a lot less than $5 matinees, you don't even have to be a member or anything, just regular customer.

I'm glad we don't have an AMC by the sound of it. I've got 3 theaters and they're all Cinemark.
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Leatherface - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:52:29 EST ID:pX/jK14J No.391042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought Mother! was honestly pretty interesting. If you aren't totally turned off by artsy fart movies you should give it a watch.
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ONERAIN11 - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:23:17 EST ID:uVBSb60N No.391132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391040
>Spiderman is alright.
Which Spider-man?


Best /mtv/ for any given holiday by Liz Lemon - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 20:54:12 EST ID:epZrrj7K No.391110 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My list is broken, help me fix it:

> Valentine's Day - Punch Drunk Love
> St Patrick's Day - It's Always Sunny - Charlie Catches a Leprechaun
> Groundhog Day - Groundhog Day
> Mother's Day - Alien
> Easter - Holy Mountain
> Independence Day - Hamilton (cam)
> Cinco de Mayo - Born in East LA
> Juneteenth - Django Unchained
> Pride - The Matrix
> Labor Day - Dancer in the Dark
> Father's Day - tie: World's Greatest Dad/Eraser Head
> Columbus Day - Aguirre Wrath of God
> Halloween - Pan's Labyrinth
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The Warden - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:23:59 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391110
>Halloween - Reanimator
Fix'd
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Kirstie Alley - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 23:11:25 EST ID:/irnYIXE No.391118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if there's a movie that can fit in all categories.

And I'd change
> Valentine's Day - Heathers
Punch Drunk is too depressing.

> St Patrick's Day- The Leprechaun
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Vince Noir - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:36:08 EST ID:vnd6uMxk No.391130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Cinco de Mayo - Treasure of the Sierra Madre
>Mother's Day - Sante Sangre (another Jodorowsky movie for you, lesser known)
>Valentine's Day - Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, or Wristcutters: A Love Story
>Father's Day - The Illusionist (2010)
>Independence Day - Easy Rider
>Pride - Tangerine (2015) or Paris is Burning
>Halloween - Hellraiser 2
>Thanksgiving - Thankskilling 3 (all other answers are shit don't even try)
>Hanukkah - Eight Crazy Nights (shut up I like this movie and there aren't a lot of jew hannukah movies)
>Christmas - Tokyo Godfathers
>Canada Day - Fubar
>4/20 - Evil Bong

I was going to pick Leprechaun for St Patties day as well, my personal favorite is Leprechaun 4: IN SPAAAAACE! Hudsucker Proxy is also a good pick for New Years, can't really think of another New Years film. After Hours feels kinda like a New Years film but it's not.
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Ken Loach - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:45:41 EST ID:ZC0TiMjU No.391131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391130
I saw The Illusionist with my elderly father 2 days before he died in his sleep
Right in the feels my man
I'll add:
>Arbor Day: The Happening


Star Trek Discovery by Terra Hoverton - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 09:52:20 EST ID:iPDAbVD2 No.388802 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your thoughts on the Star TRek Discrovery-Series?

Watched the first Episode on netflix
and I was expecting worse.

Not bad.
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Wes Anderson - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 16:36:33 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.389244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389221
>Implying Klingons don't routinely fuck other humanoids.

Anywho, my bet is that the shrooms will weaken the Vulcan learned aspie thing and they'd start feeling. Just like the Hippie Vulcans in ENT who ran around having group mind meld orgies or whatever. Those guys were all emotional just from mind melding. Imagine an actual psy drug in their green blood.

Fuck it, I say we secretly dose Phlox and see what happens...
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11111111 - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:13:08 EST ID:TSM5Dwjs No.391068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Discovery is proving to be a disappointment
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Linda Hamilton - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:33:50 EST ID:wIYVH31p No.391080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391068
Stop the fucking presses
yeah STD combines all the worst parts of ENT and VOY and manages to be worse than both
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Roger Moore - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:05:58 EST ID:t7LimZTT No.391127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391080
>STD
Heh... how did that one slip through the marketing guys? Heh.
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Tim Heidegger - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:09:11 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.391128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391127
They actually came out recently to clarify that it's not STD, it's DSC lol


Bump While Watching by Peter Campbell - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 23:00:38 EST ID:4KxDPkvC No.387835 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Did you know drills?

I'm watching White Gold right now, it's about door-to-door salesmen in the 80's selling shitty plastic windows and two of the guys from Inbetweeners star in it.
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Louisse Belcher - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:08:07 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.391081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391078
>You should get that!
every five minutes
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Cersei Baratheon - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:56:33 EST ID:cpQu1mMj No.391085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391079
>"when the fuck do sharks shit on things in star trek"

Don't give the writers of Discovery any ideas....They already have giant tardigrades tripping on shrooms....
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Klaus Kinski - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:00:13 EST ID:/x/+eg06 No.391086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391085

even though i am a huge star trek fan i refuse to ever watch this show because they squandered michelle yeoh's astronomical potential and replaced her with a dumb bitch who can't act for shit, and is only capable of making a furrowed eyebrow expression
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John Candy - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 20:34:28 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.391092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391086
Yes....
That fucking face she makes pisses me off. It's like she thinks that she can just scrunch up her face in weird positions and that's a good substitution for fucking acting.
I have no clue what they were thinking making her the lead, let alone having the sole focus of the show on her constantly.
I watched it and you're not missing much except an inability to suspend disbelief and frustration.
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David Greenwalt - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:54:59 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.391102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah yes, the humans. The hillbillies of the galaxy.
kek.


South Park Se 21. by Fred Astaire - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 11:05:56 EST ID:/ykfmoVu No.387274 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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3 Weeks until September 13th.

Will South Park continue to be as awesome as it has been? Is serialization dead? Will Mr. Garrison fuck them all to death? Find out soon. But build Hype first.

>Mark your calender's you faggots.
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Dr. David Bowman - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 03:23:19 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.391065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was a good episode im really really enjoying this season.
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John "Kindergarten Cop" Kimble - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 06:27:34 EST ID:Kgxd2qyJ No.391076 Report Quick Reply
I said it a million times and I'll say it again, I fucking hate when they do episodes about football/sports
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Charles Bronson - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:42:12 EST ID:Qqm+PUGS No.391082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391076
I thought Sarcastaball was good.
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Louisse Belcher - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:46:24 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.391083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Alright kids, it's November, who can tell me what that means?
>I-it's No-fap November?
>That's right kids! It's time for the special ed Science fair!
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Yojimbo - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:57:27 EST ID:OugJjsB7 No.391088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Last season that I enjoyed watching was the Black Friday trilogy, and the ginger cow episode.


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