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Alien: Covenant by Chuck Lorre - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:28:56 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trailer for Ridley Scott's Alien: Covenant dropped 2 days ago, I'm just finding out about it now because Christmas overshadowed it. https://youtu.be/H0VW6sg50Pk

Thoughts? Prometheus was such a controversial movie, I'm interested to see how it affects the series going forward. I personally loved Prometheus, and watching this trailer, I feel like there may be an attempt to retcon it, which is disappointing. Otherwise, looks really great.
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Slake Fistcrunch - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:03:32 EST ID:UjD1UweG No.377123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I loved Prometheus, and I loved all the Alien movies (AVP movies dont't count, but they're alright for what they are), even the ones that had more controversy like Res. I'm sure I'll love this movie, I'm pretty excited about it. That being said, I withhold judgement (like always) until I see it, but this one gets a reasonable amount of hype from me.
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Rupert Giles - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:03:55 EST ID:1LUlzS1I No.377125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This one's not written by Lindelof so I'm skeptically hype. Nice to see that it looks like they did the smartest possible thing with Prometheus by keeping Fassbender's character and dropping everything else.
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Raven Darkhölme - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:29:40 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.377126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Loved everything about Prometheus. Except for the plot.
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Rigby - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:34:31 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm pissed that Shaw is out, presumably killed sometime between the movies. Noomi Rapace was perfect and deserved another shot in the Alien world under a better writer. Plus she had great chemistry with David, and it would have been interesting to see how she changed after Prometheus. it'll have to be REALLY fucking good to convince me that ditching her was a smart move.

also, what's with the name? why call it Alien: Covenant if it's part of a mostly separate Prometheus trilogy and there are still plans for an Alien 5 that brings Ripley/Weaver back? that's just gonna make things confusing, plus the original title of Paradise was cool imo.
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Angelica Pickles - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 01:38:45 EST ID:/Yqe0Bcy No.377129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the cgi alien from Prometheus was the worst god damn thing I seen in a major film
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Phyllis "Pizzazz" Gabor - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 03:26:54 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Prometheus was fucking garbage
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Donald Glover - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 04:20:50 EST ID:GDbPIJfg No.377132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377129
Worse than the practical effect hybrid alien from Alien Resurrection? I liked that movie but this thing was too stupid.
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Chuck Lorre - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:03:16 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377128

The entire thing reeks of studio meddling — this isn't the movie Ridley Scott wanted to make, it was the movie he was pressured into making by executives, who in turn wanted to dumb down the narrative and bring back the classic Xenomorph for idiot movie-go'ers.

I think Ridley wanted to focus on the Engineers, and include the Xenomorph's origin as a sort of Easter Egg side-stortly. But it really seems like the Xenomorphs have becomd the immediate focus.

>>377129

There are a bunch of aliens, how is anyone supposed to know which one you're talking about, but regardless you must live a very sheltered life. I grew up watching Syfy Originals, those make the CGI of Prometheus look the Sistine Chapel.
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Dr. Raymond Stantz - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 08:00:39 EST ID:m9FI6Pej No.377135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377132
I wanna fuck that alien right in the gut
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Hayley Smith - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:45:44 EST ID:OSsIy2gv No.377151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377132
Yes. yes, it was.
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Kevin Flynn - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 07:27:21 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377133

My understanding is that Ridley is doing an Alien prequel series and a Prometheus series, which are all technically one Alien prequel saga but deal with two separate themes and plotlines
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Crud Bonemeal - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:35:34 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377126
>Loved everything about Prometheus. Except for the plot.

It was the characters that I hated. The story was supposed to be about an incredibly well funded scientific expedition, but the scientists and flight crew were almost all douche bags. David was awesome, Meredith was awesome, Liz was alright, Weyland was mediocre, Idris Elba did the best he could with shitty dialog, geologist guy looked and acted like someone who had just gotten out of prison and was going back soon, biologist guy was a fucking idiot, Liz's boyfriend was a fucking idiotic douche bag.

The characters in Aliens were written smarter and less douche-y and those people were a bunch of soldiers for fek sake.
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Patton Oswald - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:48:31 EST ID:w12nI5x7 No.377170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377169
I hear you. I love Alien and all things related. I was so pumped for Prometheus when it came out. Beautifully shot movie with some really pants on head retarded dialogue and characters. Charlize Theron's, 'Father...' still stands out in my head as one of the worst lines in any movie to date. And I've watched some really shitty B/Z movies.
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Carrie White - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:50:30 EST ID:x4HLWxPT No.377173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fucking shitload of spoilers, don't watch it
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Carrie White - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:18:17 EST ID:x4HLWxPT No.377176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Looks meh. trailer full of spoilers... Anyone else feel like hollywood movies peaked in the 80's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75AEkRrwJg
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Leeta - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:41:27 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377176

I'm always amazed that people still watch trailers. They've been spoiling everything for over a decade now, and some people still act surprised.
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Doug Funny - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:57:25 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377170

But I loved Prometheus, dude. It's this sequel I'm worried about. I wanted to watch Shaw try to save Earth from the Engineers. Instead we're getting another Alien entry, with a fully evolved Xenomorph. Are they even going to explain how we went from pic related to the fully evolved Xenomorph? They fucking better.
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Hank Murphy - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:37:05 EST ID:jXjGsIxz No.377186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377181

Dude, in Alien the chestburster become a fully-grown Xenomorph in the span of hours after it came out of John Hurt.
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Megan Fox - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:06:20 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377186

No shit. But the "Deacon" is an entirely different species, that as I understood it, is a precursor to the OG Xenomorphs.

The Deacon needs to inject it's egg or something into someone/something in order for the Xenomorphs to exist.
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Carrie Fisher - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:47:46 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
eeehhh I'm always down for an Alien movie but I was interested to see where Prometheus is going. Hopefully they get to that while keeping it under wraps in the trailer, idk

>>377176
that pic is fucking retarded
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Viserys Targaryen - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:07:11 EST ID:e7KNWab7 No.377210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still continuing to hold out so I can watch this all really close to each other. I know that seems nitpicky but there's something really satisfying about doing it that way.
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Lalla Ward - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:17:16 EST ID:Z70VfAQq No.377211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'M A GEOLOGIST

I LOVE rocks
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Richard Attenborough - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:10:31 EST ID:RbMr7u7u No.377214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377211
THEY'RE MINERALS, MARIE
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Debra Morgan - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:39:03 EST ID:gJ6Y2bqN No.377224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377129
Alien 3 was bad too, was it really worse than that? LOL
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Debra Morgan - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 10:41:58 EST ID:gJ6Y2bqN No.377225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377194
>that pic is fucking retarded
Not an argument
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Tywin Lannister - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:52:34 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377225
it presumes too much about alien intelligence based on huge assumptions about our own, specifically the whole social darwinist (which is a misnomer and misunderstanding of what "fitness" means)/Hobbesian angle. It ignores the role of reciprocal altruism and mutual aid in the evolution and survival of intelligent highly social animals
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Debra Morgan - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:38:06 EST ID:gJ6Y2bqN No.377231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377228
it's a chan post made to give your noggin a joggin. Not a religious credo set in stone.

Just look at the west today. Altruism = weakness. If our goal was to as quickly as possible unite the smartest and colonize mars to secure the only known source of life in the universe we're wildly off course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GG1rFA_QEk
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Tywin Lannister - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:45:28 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377231
>altruism = weakness
reciprocal altruism and mutual aid, I said. either way you are incorrect.

>hour long Pat Buchanan vid
lol I see. read up on the terms I gave and learn something or don't. I imagine you won't.
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Clark Kent - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:22:16 EST ID:jXjGsIxz No.377235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377231
>>377232

Talk about movies, you dummies.
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Orlando Bloom - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 19:41:14 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377235
it's related to Prometheus: the idea behind why the Engineers would try to wipe out humanity and it's a common theme in all sorts of sci fi conflict. We don't actually know their motivations so it's all speculative.
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Orlando Bloom - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:02:40 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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p.s. shut up, nerd
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Rosencrantz - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:35:36 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377224

>nearly 2017
>plebs are still hating on Alien 3
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Rosencrantz - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 01:40:13 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377236

I always guessed that the engineers simply looked upon humankind with indifference. They don't hate them or love them, they're simply another batch of experiments with which they may do what they please in the name of SCIENCE.

Fits the whole Lovecraftian feel Scott was trying to go far. Honestly, though, based on some interviews, it sounds like Scott is gonna make Jesus an Engineer or Engineer hybrid whenever he gets the chance cause for some reason Scott has these personal religious issues he seems to be plugging into his films. Hopefully, somebody ties him up before he can do that. The Ancient Aliens: The Movie shit in Prometheus is already cringey as fuck
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Touch Rustrod - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 07:08:37 EST ID:t2t/Uj2j No.377260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377250
I was going to say something but you beat me to the punch.
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Dirk Hardpec - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:44:59 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377250
>>377260

What does the age of the movie have to do with anything?
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Paddy Maguire - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:51:38 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377250

Alien 3 would be pretty good if not for the atrocious CGI.
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Rosencrantz - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:30:40 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377287

It's not the age of the movie. It's the fact that people still haven't grown up and realized that Aliens is the weakest of the first three movies and Alien 3: The Assembly Cut is closer to the spirit and quality of the original Alien as opposed to Cameron's military fetish film for 12 year olds.


>>377288

There is actually barely any CG in Alien 3. Most of the scenes of the Alien were done with practical effects.
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Dirk Hardpec - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:03:55 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377291
> Alien 3: The Assembly Cut is closer to the spirit and quality of the original Alien

I haven't even heard of the Assembly Cut, I'll have to check it out.

> as opposed to Cameron's military fetish film for 12 year olds.

I think Aliens was pretty damn fun, I'd consider it to be one of the best action movies ever made. It wasn't terribly intelligent, but neither was 3 (unless there's stuff in the Assembly Cut that I don't know about). I'm not sure why you're so down on it.

I never got the impression that Aliens was a milwank movie. Sure, there were soldiers, but they didn't seem to be glorified in any way. They weren't heroically guarding freedom and liberty, they were pretty much a bunch of company goons who got the cocky kicked out of them as they turned into lunch.

The loaders were fucking stupid though.

>There is actually barely any CG in Alien 3.

There was enough and it has aged *horribly*.
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Draco Malfoy - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:19:10 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377291
fucking yes, Aliens and it's bullshit happy ending can go fuck itself. the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 brought it back to its roots and was a perfect end to Ripley's journey.
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Rosencrantz - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:12:59 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377294
>I haven't even heard of the Assembly Cut, I'll have to check it out.

The Assembly Cut is a whole half an hour longer than the theatrical cut, changes a few scenes and develops some of the characters and themes a little more that it's a much more enjoyable and coherent film. There's even a whole entire subplot in the Assembly Cut that was cut in the theatrical release where one of the prisoners believes the Alien is some kind of angel that has chosen him.

>I think Aliens was pretty damn fun, I'd consider it to be one of the best action movies ever made. It wasn't terribly intelligent, but neither was 3 (unless there's stuff in the Assembly Cut that I don't know about). I'm not sure why you're so down on it.

While I do enjoy Aliens as an action movie, now that I'm older I just am not as attracted to James Cameron's style of directing or the radical change in tone and atmosphere from the first Alien which was very much a story of cosmic horror. Alien 3 is more in line with the tone of isolation and cosmicism that characterized the first Alien and it's themes of religion and nihilism precluded what Scott would eventually do with Prometheus (which although I disliked it, I still feel was well directed on its own) and it probably handled these religious and philosophical elements in a better fashion than Prometheus did.

>There was enough and it has aged *horribly*.

Well, most of the scenes you probably think are CG aren't CG at all, as most of the scenes with the Alien were done with practical effects.

>>377296

>fucking yes, Aliens and it's bullshit happy ending can go fuck itself. the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 brought it back to its roots and was a perfect end to Ripley's journey.

At least until Resurrection took away the impact of Ridley's dying for our sins.
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Paddy Maguire - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 18:34:51 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377302

Maybe it wasn't CGI, I just remember all the shots of the xenomorph running around looked really bad. I liked the plot, setting and general vibe of the movie, but all that stuck out about the xeno effects were bad CGI shots.
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Chum Lee - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:35:48 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377302

>Well, most of the scenes you probably think are CG aren't CG at all, as most of the scenes with the Alien were done with practical effects.

Nah, I just watched it a few weeks ago. The CG scenes are glaring.
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Ben Tenison - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:00:06 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.377306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377304

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok257N2UBCg

3:00-8:00 minutes shows how they did it, which is pretty impressive cause I had always thought those segments were just bad early CGI, but they were actually a puppet against a bluescreen
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Kristen Schall - Sun, 01 Jan 2017 16:59:07 EST ID:njvhrPmx No.377328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377294
>I think Aliens was pretty damn fun, I'd consider it to be one of the best action movies ever made.

Aliens is a dumbed down popcorn movie version of the first film, and the first half of it is boring. Alien is a fucking masterpiece and Aliens really does not look good by comparison. The film is alright but nothing special.
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Thorin Oakenshield - Sun, 01 Jan 2017 18:08:28 EST ID:MtzsiSJT No.377329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377306
They said later on in the interview that they composited CGI on top of the puppet to make the shadows match up. That's why the edges of the alien look so weird when it's in motion against the background.
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Jennifer Garner - Sun, 01 Jan 2017 18:18:33 EST ID:Z5LTXn7G No.377330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Aliens is the best because films suck at being scary or deep and all the others take themselves far too seriously.
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Eric Idle - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 01:57:45 EST ID:GDbPIJfg No.377346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377330
Yeah, dude. They should remake the first one with Vin Diesel as Allen Ripley and Dwayne The Rock Johnson as the alien.
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MacReady - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:22:17 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377306
>>377329

Wow, I can't believe it's not CGI. That puppet looks really good. It's a shame that by the time they did the chroma keying/CGI shadows/whatever the thing looked like complete shit.

>>377330
Alien 1 was scary and I don't think it was trying to be particularly deep. The characters were all fleshed out and made sense, the story was really good, the Giger art is creepy as hell, the visuals were really good (except some of the 70's computer stuff hasn't aged well).
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John Cleese - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:42:07 EST ID:MtzsiSJT No.377351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377350
Wow is that like H.R. Geiger's living room or something?
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Ace Ventura - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:26:51 EST ID:m9FI6Pej No.377352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377351
It's from one of the HR Giger museum/bars, getting shitfaced in one would be a blast.
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2017-01 - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 04:47:48 EST ID:NUKOfTkF No.377418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Will there be a Predator in this film?
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Woodhouse - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 09:26:40 EST ID:w12nI5x7 No.377420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377418
Ridley Scott had a crybaby bitchboy moment back when Prometheus came out and was like, 'I DONT LIKE ALIEN VERSUS PREDATOR! I DONT LIKE WHAT JAMES CAMERON DID WITH ALIENS! THOSE ARENT REEEEEAAAAL' Which...is fine I guess. It's his IP he can do what he wants. But he's kind of out of touch if he doesn't think Aliens was (although different) very successful and that Aliens Versus Predator doesn't have an appeal if done right.
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Nick Frost - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 12:55:45 EST ID:t2t/Uj2j No.377425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377420
There's a bunch of subtle things in it, like the weyland corp is named something different. Either way it's non cannon so I don't know why he needs to have a bitch fit since technically "THOSE ARENT REEEEEAAAAL" in the universe he created. I honestly don't think it can be done right tho. I'm fine with them existing in the same universe but I don't think they need to meet or fight one another.

Alien is much darker, you could argue it's even darker now with Prometheus, or at least existential. It has the Geiger signature style of phallic bio organic monsters and environments. Not to mention the whole thing is essentially one big rape metaphor and even if you don't want to believe that, Xenomorphs are still a fucked up concept. I'm not knoncking Predator BTW, I love Predator (1 & even 2 ... Predators wasn't bad either) but it's much more of a fun creature feature action romp than Alien ever was. The Predators have this whole honor system and can even be called the good guys in certain situations. Xenomorphs just kill and reproduce.

tl;dr Despite being iconic 80s E.Ts Alien and Predator are tonally different.
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Rickety Cricket - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 17:52:38 EST ID:jXN6tzFW No.377431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Prometheus was such a controversial movie

What was so controversial about it? I've never seen it.
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Vince Gilligan - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 19:25:38 EST ID:iCS4/4zm No.377436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377431
I just thought it was a bad movie
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Leonard Powers - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 19:26:43 EST ID:8pELt8wh No.377437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377431
some people thought it was really good, some people thought it was really bad.
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Major Motoko Kusanagi - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 20:01:00 EST ID:vbdJjbyX No.377438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it looks dank and we coming back to that sci-fi horror vibe the original had. I'm excited.

I also enjoyed Prometheus.
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Brian DePalma - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 21:16:16 EST ID:jXN6tzFW No.377441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377437

Oh.

Okay.
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John "Kindergarten Cop" Kimble - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 21:37:26 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377441
the real reason is because a lot of people didn't like what they did with the space jockey or Engineers now. made pic related from the original movie a space suit and the actual aliens inside be weird muscle dudes with perfect skin who were implied to have created human beings, if not all life on Earth. they also possibly used the origins of the xenomorph, a mysterious black goo, as weapons or something. it was all very vague because Lindelof wrote it, but hopefully this sequel doesn't just completely drop it all and gives us some of the answers Shaw so desperately sought.
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Tommy Gavin - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:56:55 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377431

Didn't have any significant screentime for Xenomorphs
Plot was too confusing to follow
Humans made human mistakes and that's unforgivable
"muh CGI"

Not my complaints mind you, I loved the movie, but these are the common things I see the haters say. People gonna bitch... They'll crucify the biologist in Prometheus for touching an alien lifeform, but won't blink an eye at Ripley trying to find her cat amidst a self-destruction sequence and alien trying to kill her.

>People are awful

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 04-01-2017 23:25:07
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River Song - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 23:01:59 EST ID:t2t/Uj2j No.377451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377443
Prometheus isn't a perfect movie by any means but I'm on the "it's good" side of the fence. With that said I think a BIG part of why people didn't like Prometheus is how it was marketed. A lot of people went in thinking it was an Alien movie, it's not NOT an Alien movie but it's also it's own thing.

Just an example, I had a friend who went into that movie blind. Recognized the goo and thought "no... this isn't that". Sees the engineer "wait is this that?" Then see's the Deacon "holy shit this IS that". I went into it knowing what it was but I think this movie would have been remembered a whole lot differently had the public not known exactly what it was.

I dunno about the religious stuff. Wasn't the latest X-men movie all about Christianity being a sham? Preacher is on TV. I don't think that kind of stuff offends people the way it used too.
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River Song - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 23:08:31 EST ID:t2t/Uj2j No.377452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377450
I understand people frustration with the wheel scene. Part of me defends it saying, you don't know what you'd do in that situation. Another part of me says TURN YOU DUMB BITCH!

The thing I thought was a ridiculous complaint was the face huger scene. "What a dumb ass, doesn't he know that thing that happens in Alien is gonna happen?" No... because he hasn't seen Alien. Either way some even if they are dumb horror movie decisions they don't ruin the movie.
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John "Kindergarten Cop" Kimble - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 23:16:19 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377450
because Ripley saving the cat was written better than the biologist's death. I liked Prometheus too but it's hard not to fault it for telling us that the crew were experts at the top of their field then writing most of them like teenagers in a slasher movie.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 04-01-2017 23:25:58
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Sean Connery - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 13:26:51 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377453
My personal highlight was the guy with the high-tech map technology somehow getting lost. A couple of incidents of people making simple human mistakes would have been fine, but in Prometheus the supposed expert professionals seem like they're all constantly going out of their way to fuck things up.

>>377452
The thing about the wheel scene for me is that it's hard to sympathise with a character dying in circumstances worthy of a Darwin Award.

I hated Prometheus btw. Just in case you hadn't guessed.
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John "Kindergarten Cop" Kimble - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 13:41:59 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377490
lol or how when those guys are lost and stranded, the two people monitoring them from the ship decide to ignore a life form blip on the map and go have sex. total teenage slasher shit.
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Malin Åkerman - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:46:14 EST ID:u36mHR49 No.377535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Was HR Giger gay or bi? Legit question people.
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Nick Andopolis - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 13:19:30 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No 'ffence, bu', I've
been asleep two 'ears.
I ain't 'ere to be 'our friend.
I'm 'ere to make money, 'ou got 'at?

  • The Best Geologist In The Universe

>>377535

I've never heard of him being gay or bi. His art was pretty dark up until his muse and the love of his life shot herself in the head in his bed, then his art turned into rainbows and happiness.
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Curtis Donovan - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 13:21:19 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377535
I mean, probably.
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Cherry Darling - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 13:40:07 EST ID:m9FI6Pej No.377541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377535
It might have been discussed in that recent documentary, but I was really drunk when I watched it. I would recommend. Getting really drunk, that is.
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David Greenwalt - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 19:06:58 EST ID:t2t/Uj2j No.377551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377535
Did you consider he may have been straight to a fault? Dicks might have actually terrified him for all we know...
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William Moseley - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 19:08:09 EST ID:JaOZ8HZ9 No.377552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377539
He's not the best geologist in the universe though. He's unprofessional, childish, and (like everyone else in that movie) never behaves anything like a believable character.
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Adam DeMamp - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 19:19:03 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377552
>what is a joke? : the post
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Alex Kingston - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 00:56:39 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377490

The geologist was on drugs, and there was a static storm interfering with comms and navigation. If you paid attention, you'd know these things, and possibly see them as answers to the supposed plot-holes, but that's Prometheus' biggest problem: it attracted a casual audience who don't pay attention. Too busy refilling their popcorn and checking their txt messages to pay attention to dialogue.

And concerning the biologist — "bah he was an EXPERT! why was he touching it?" Yeah Steve Irwin was an expert too, and he eventually died from touching an animal too.
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Max Rockatansky - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:42:50 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377561
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Riley Freeman - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:51:38 EST ID:lOLNMjKg No.377563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So is this before or after Prometheus? Obviously David is in it, so if its after where is Noomi Rapaces character? If I remember right they flew off together at the end of prometheus
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Kandyse McClure - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 06:00:28 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377561
>If you paid attention, you'd know these things, and possibly see them as answers to the supposed plot-holes

No, because it's the same thing; the geologist was too dumb to be there, like everyone else on the mission apparently was. The whole goddamn crew of scientists died of stupidity, I don't care if they explained the stupididity, its retarded writing.

Like I said; a couple of people making simple human errors would be fine, but the Prometheus cast are an absolute parade of fuckups to an extent that strains credulity.

I bet you think people just weren't paying attention enough to "get" Batman vs Superman.
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Alex Kingston - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 07:58:57 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377563

Probably after, but don't make the mistake of thinking
>David is there, therefore it takes place after Prometheus

David is an Android. Androids are copy+paste. There are probably hundreds of Davids, who all look the same, who all act the same, etc. The David in this trailer could be a totally different David from Prometheus.

>>377565

People do stupid things all the time. Here I am trying to reason with an idiot — not my best moment. Your logic is circular.

>The geologist is an idiot
Why?
>Because he got lost
He was high and there was a static storm
>He shouldn't have been there
Why?
>The geologist is an idiot
Why?
>Because he got lost
He was high and there was a static storm
>He shouldn't have been there
Why?
>The geologist is an idiot

None of the deaths annoyed me because they all were viable, be it the noble sacrifice of the ship crew, or the idiotic human error of Vickers. The geologist and biologist died because of curiosity, drugs, and weather. Weyland died by foolishly asking the space-equivalent of Nazis for life. Whom else? Halloway unknowingly consented to David poisoning him — "What would you be willing to do to to find what you're looking for?" "Anything." David promptly spikes his drink — later Halloway let's Vickers kill him, probably because mutation isn't the most joyous experience.

>Capeshit reference
Find another reference, I don't do or care about capeshit.
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Kandyse McClure - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:36:46 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377566
>The geologist is an idiot
>Why?
>He was high

There you, go was that so hard?
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Alex Kingston - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:09:38 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377567

Except you wrote:

>the geologist was too dumb to be there

Do you really want to argue about whether Weyland should've brought a drug addict on the mission? Do you really want to argue about whether Weyland knew was a drug addict? Because that's where this conversation is headed should you continue to insist that Fifield "shouldn't have been there".

Also,
>posting on drug chan
>"people who get high are dumb and shouldn't be socially ostracized
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Max Rockatansky - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 18:11:40 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377568

"Hi, I'm Doctor Millburn, and you are?"

"GRUNT-GRUNT! THAG NOT WANT FRIEND, THAG WANT MONEY! GRUNT-GRUNT!"

"I can tell by your diction, mohawk and facial tattoos that you must be the geologist."

"THAG LOVE 'OCK!"

"I sure hope the apostrophe represents an 'R'."

"All crew, brace for entry."

"Whoa, weather! Whoa, mountains!"

"These things are surprises? Didn't we do a scan from orbit?"

"Fuck, I knew we forgot something! Where the hell are we even going?"

"There's some metal and shit on the scanners or something. I don't know. It sure would be nice if we could look into this while not barrelling through the atmosphere. You know, it's hard to make rational decisions when plummeting from the sky."

"There! It's a straight line that I just spotted, through the window, with my eyes. It's surely not the work of God. That's clearly the place."

"Thanks, Liz."

"Can you land us there?"

"My dick is large. Touchdown!"

"Alright, everyone get your suits on, we're going in."

"Uh, there are only six hours of sunlight left and we know absolutely nothing about this place. Just running into...whatever this is seems really stupid to me."

"It's Christmas, I gotta open my presents."

"What the hell is that supposed to mean?"

"That I haven't developed emotionally or intellectually since grade 9."

"That's because of the brain tumor, right?"

"Yeah."

"Someone restrain Holloway. Does anyone on board have any sort of training in psychology?"

"What's that? We couldn't hear you, we were too busy putting on our suits."

"WHOOHOO!" - The survey team ride out on The General Lee, playing its characteristic horn song.

(moments later)

"Hey, this is a neat room. Preliminary scans indicate that it's a breathable atmosphere."

"Nice! Time to take my helmet off!"

"No, Holloway, that's fucking stupid and we're already doing something fucking stupid."

"Hey, my helmet's off and I haven't died instantly!"

"Someone restrain Holloway, someone on the ship get some combination of a brig and quarantine room prepped."

"Sorry, none of us heard you over the sound of us all taking our helmets off."

"THAG USE PUPS!"

"Pups?"

(Fifield howls like a lobotomized coyote as he releases a pair of drones he pulled out of a bag labeled "Wal-mart")

"Oh shit, what's that? It's some huge alien spectral thing running right at us! And through us and...there it goes."

"What was it running from?"

"Maybe it was running from...(shutters)...the script."

"Hey, what's with this pile of bodies?"

"Okay, that's it, I'm out. We have no idea what this place is, what's going on here, we just came racing in on a whim for some reason. What we do know is that something killed a shit ton of beings that are so advanced that they had interstellar travel tens of thousands of years ago. Also, the sun is going down in a few hours and we have no idea what happens here at night as we didn't bother observing the planet from orbit for 24 hours...or one hour...or at all. I think that we should split up the group and that Fifield and I should return to the ship, alone, by ourselves."

"THAG THINK THAT MILLBURN MAKE LOGICAL AND RATIONAL ARGUMENT EXCEPT FOR SPLIT UP PART."

"Fine, fuck off you fucking cowards!"

"Thanks, Liz."

(Fifield and Millburn walk away, down separate hallways. Realizing their mistake they return and start walking away from each other again, this time down the opposite hallways. Again they realize their mistake and return to one another)

"You knucklehead!"

"NYUCK-NYUCK-NYUCK-GRUNT-GRUNT"

(Fifield and Milburn walk away, down a different hallway than that from which the group originally arrived)

(Suddenly a door opens. David looks guiltily around as he removes his erect penis from a wall control panel.)

"Wow, that sure is a big head."

"Thank you, Liz, I was manufactured to exceptional specifications."

"What is this? It's like, a bunch of cylinders and stuff. No one touch anything!"

(David looks up guiltily as he briefly stops performing cunnilingus on one of the urns and immediately returns to his cunnilingus)

"Look, the room is changing!"

(The room beings to react biochemically probably to the presence of the group of full retards)

Tune in next week when The Best Crew In The Universe continue their adventure in Part Two: We Were Spessmens!
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Carl Showalter - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 19:08:57 EST ID:tHVhMW75 No.377580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So they're also making an interactive VR thing to go with it.
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/4/14164456/alien-covenant-vr

As Isolation was a commercial failure despite selling 2.11 million copies and being one of the best games of year, and this is being made by Fox, I suspect it's going to have a much lower budget, probably just a sections of the movie except with a 360 camera separated by puzzles.
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Gamera - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 19:54:18 EST ID:GTsV+bx0 No.377581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377578
>"Maybe it was running from...(shutters)...the script."
>(shutters)
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Seven of Nine - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 20:08:11 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377578
Lmfao this was great
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Maggie Blinco - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 23:47:15 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377581
>shutters

Damn you, brain, you screwed me again!
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Bollo - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:42:30 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.377601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377451
>I don't think that kind of stuff offends people the way it used too.

It doesn't.

Shitty adaptations offend people nowadays.
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Bruce Wayne - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:23:18 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377568
or hey how about

>people who get high while investigating strange ruins on an alien planet and subsequently get lost despite having the map are dumb and shouldn't have been there

You're reaching really hard. I get it, you think Prometheus was good, you're probably a little bit geologist yourself.
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Nick Frost - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:11:20 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377603

No, you're the one reaching, cunt. You know Fifield uses drugs, and so you say, "He shouldn't have been there," as if Weyland knew about his habit and sent him anyway. How do we know they knew? We don't. You're an omnipotent viewer who expects the film's characters to know what you know — it's absurd.

I'm not even arguing against the notion that Fifield was an asshole/idiot for doing drugs on the job, I'm simply defending the incident as something that could actually happen. Whose to say Fifield didn't bring fake piss to the job interview? We don't know. Ridley Scott wasn't anticipating autists nitpicking every detail.
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Bruce Wayne - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:37:27 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377605
I say "He shouldn't have been there" in the sense that he demonstrated that he was not competent or professional enough to be on a mission like that. Which would be ok, if he was the only character portrayed as making dumb mistakes you wouldn't expect of a professional in that situation, but that's the case for practically the entire cast; people are recklessly endangearing themselves left and right in this stupid goddamn film, and they're ALL supposed to be smart people doing serious work.

>Ridley Scott wasn't anticipating autists nitpicking every detail

Lol, excuse me? Who's nitpicking here? I've simply asserted that the crew of supposed top-tier professionals acted across the board like idiots, to an unbelievable degree. You're the one who's actually dredging up irrelevant details in a futile effort to make your dumb case, I've only seen the piece of shit once. Don't project your shit on me, dum dum.
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Francis Grimes - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:57:47 EST ID:XgsH7nii No.377607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My gripe about Prometheus is the ship itself. It's all flashy holograms and glowing displays and ambient lighting. It is in line with the current aesthetic concept of "the future," but it diverges wildly from the source material's late 70's view of the future-- the spartan interior of the original Nostromo that comes after.
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Leonard Powers - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:33:34 EST ID:yVNYWQ69 No.377608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377607
that's a pretty glaring point i never put together. Although the Nostromo was only a commercial towing vehicle.
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Vic Vinegar - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 13:15:37 EST ID:RT6lTRhn No.377612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377606
>Lol, excuse me? Who's nitpicking here? I've simply asserted that the crew of supposed top-tier professionals

who says theyre top teir professionals
for all we know these are the fringe lunatics of their field
this isnt some huge government project with tons of oversight and demands that they pick the best of the best
the crew was put together by weyland.... who if youll remember..... was something of an idiotic zealot
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Maggie Blinco - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 15:18:59 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377612
Wasn't Weyland supposed to be a technological genius as well as an excellent business man? I can't see an idiot creating the most powerful corporation in history from nothing. It seems unlikely that Weyland would crew this extremely important and expensive expedition with complete idiots.
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Vic Vinegar - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:03:57 EST ID:RT6lTRhn No.377617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377616
>Wasn't Weyland supposed to be a technological genius
pretty sure he was just the money guy
> I can't see an idiot creating the most powerful corporation in history from nothing.
why not?
and who says he created it from nothing
maybe he inherited billions of dollars let financial advisors make all his business decisions for him and then used some of the money for his wackadoo space god fantasy
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Maggie Blinco - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:20:38 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377617
>pretty sure he was just the money guy

According to this http://alienanthology.wikia.com/wiki/Peter_Weyland

"At the age of 14 he was granted a Method Patent for a synthetic trachea constructed entirely of synthetically-engineered stem cells, becoming his 12th registered patent to date."
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Ryan Gosling - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:07:44 EST ID:JaOZ8HZ9 No.377622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377616
>It seems unlikely that Weyland would crew this extremely important and expensive expedition with complete idiots
He wouldn't. And that's exactly what the problem with prometheus is. I don't know why some people are trying to justify the lazy writing with wacky theories but basically the characters are not believable or sensible people. They behave in the way they do because that's what the script says, not because of any believable or realistic character traits.
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Slake Fistcrunch - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:09:54 EST ID:Q1JXGGcA No.377623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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aLIENS
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Audrey Hepburn - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 23:30:50 EST ID:RT6lTRhn No.377627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377621
was that in any of the movies?
maybe....just maybe....those ideas were removed or simply not conceived at the time because they were intentionally trying to craft an image of the character as a pampered and irrational billionaire
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Audrey Hepburn - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 23:35:17 EST ID:RT6lTRhn No.377629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377627
who happens to be over 100 years old and almost certainly suffering from mental disease of some kind and desperate to prolong the life that is rapidly leaving him
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T'Pol - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 01:12:59 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377629

Hello, I'm Peter Weyland and if you're watching this then I'm dead. Smithers, I'm not dead yet, am I? Oh. Anyhow, when I was fourteen years old I created a human trachea out of stem cells, deionizing radiation and photocopies of the legislation that said that such things were illegal, written by narrow-minded motherfucking cock-sucking fucking...anyhow...all those useless fucks are long dead and I created the most powerful and immoral corporation in the history of the human species. So, fuck those fucking fucks.

Anyhow, when I was fourteen I created a human trachea out of stem cells. That was then, this is now. Today I have been informed that I am...Smithers! What balderdash are they saying about me now? Oh yes, that I am quite senile and that the stem cells and deionizing radiation that I've been pumping into my brain have made me quite insane.

Anyhow, that's neither here nor that. Because I am of sound mind and sound body. I can attest to the soundness of my body. Indeed it is quite impossible to deny soundness after an entire liter of prune juice followed by three hours on the toilet every morning.

Anyhow, they say I am over the hill. They say I'm crazy. They say that my sexual fetishes involving bio-mechanical penises springing from the walls and penetrating semi-detached female sex organs that look like an industrial lathe fucked an elephant with ridiculous amounts of skin cancer is "not normal".

Anyhow, I will prove to you that I am the man that I am, the man I was and the man that I continue to be. I have underwritten the most expensive interstellar space mission in human history, a mission based on cave paintings made by savages tens of thousands of years ago. The crew will be the finest applicants that I could find that applied for positions in my corporation's subsidiary fast food corporation, McWeylands.

Anyhow, go forth, find, search, find, discover, find immortality for me and die with honor. Except for the fellow with the mohawk and the facial tattoos, you can go fuck yourself.

For those who don't know me, I'm Peter Weyland. For those who know me...I'm Peter Weyland.

Smithers, fetch the prune juice and cocaine enema! Is this thing still on? What's with these new designs where they try to hide the power button? Oh, here it is.
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Terri Farrell - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:03:57 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377622
When you have to reinterpret it as a zany caper about some nutty wannabe scientists sent on a suicide mission by a senile old fool who lucked into his fortune for the movie to make sense, Ridley Scott fucked up.
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Abu Nazir - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 03:54:02 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377606

>that he demonstrated that he was not competent or professional enough to be on a mission like that.

He only demonstrated that AFTER being hired to do the job. Again, the characters are not psychic. They lack your all-seeing eye. They lack your knowledge of the future.

>Who's nitpicking here?

You.

>to an unbelievable degree.

What do you base "believability" on? Because anyone whose spent a year on Planet Earth knows that the crew is believable based on past incidents of humans doing dumb shit, EVEN so-called experts.

>You're the one who's actually dredging up irrelevant details in a futile effort to make your dumb case, I've only seen the piece of shit once. Don't project your shit on me, dum dum.

If it's futile, then shut the fuck up. Not only do you waste my time with your close-monded ignorance, but you voluntarily waste yours. All I'm doing is pulling references from the movie to refute your nonsensical criticisms — Why can't you just accept that a) the characters made human mistakes b) Weyland couldn't have known they'd make these mistakes c) this does not reflect badly on the writing. It's not difficult.
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Terri Farrell - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 05:27:08 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377636
I'll say it again;

>When you have to reinterpret it as a zany caper about some nutty wannabe scientists sent on a suicide mission by a senile old fool who lucked into his fortune for the movie to make sense, Ridley Scott fucked up.

Also you have awful taste.
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T'Pol - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 07:46:10 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Awh. Poor, poor ReS6ZPPG.
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Samwise Gamgee - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 12:23:06 EST ID:1LUlzS1I No.377644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm honestly impressed that someone would go through this level of mental gymnastics to defend Prometheus, of all things. The perseverance in this topic is admirable.
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MacReady - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:30:14 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Prometheus had a death-by-a-thousand-cuts thing where many little details and plot points didn't make sense, were never explained, or were just kinda stupid. I heard that some of that was due to editing out scenes that would have made things make more sense, and the extended cut of the film is significantly better, but I haven't seen it.
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Abu Nazir - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:44:27 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377637

>nutty wannabe scientists

"Wannabe" — You seen their credentials? No? Shut up.

"Nutty" — Flawed is a more appropriate term. Anyone can succumb to drug addiction, and many people keep it a secret. Hell, by 2093, our attitude toward drugs may be very liberal. And as I mentioned before, many "experts" have made grave mistakes, much like the Biologist. I've pointed out Steve Irwin, would you like another example? Louis Slotin was a scientist who worked on the Manhattan Project building the atom bomb. Very intelligent, respected, and employed by the USA military. During a demonstration involving a plutonium core, Slotin, not following procedure as noted afterwards, made a mistake that led to a fission reaction — he and those viewing were irradiated, and 7 agonizing days later, Slotin was dead. This man was by all accounts an expert in his field, who fucked up once and died terribly. Now whose to say the Biologist isn't the same story about an intelligent, respected man who slipped up once and died horribly? You prefer to treat him as an eternal stooge. I think it's better to assume the best, for entertainment sake.

>sent on a suicide mission

Yeah, they totally knew they were going to die.........

>a senile old fool who lucked into his fortune

What makes him senile? That was never my impression. He's certainly greedy and power hungry, which is typical of contemporary bourgeoisie, so why not future bourgeoisie? And even moreso with the whole "lucking into fortune". Isnt that the most common story of success? Inheritance? God forbid Ridley Scott parallel the future with the past/present.

>Also you have awful taste

Yeah, because you've gotten a good feel for my taste based on a couple exchanges in an alien thread, lol. Why don't you insult my hair or the way I dress? Your words carry little weight on an anonymous imageboard.

Like, why would you even write this? Do you actually feel good and confident about yourself when you have to resort to that degree of pettiness? Chances are I like the same movies you do, so what's it say about you when I have "shitty taste"? lol.
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Aslan - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 14:46:19 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.377649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377645
there is no extended cut, but there are a bunch of deleted and alternate scenes that, while cool, wouldn't have changed the movie that much. you're spot on about the biggest issue actually being a ton of tiny issues. the real problem is that Lindelof is a shitty writer who never should have been allowed near the script, and Scott cared more about pacing and tension (which is why a lot of those little scenes were cut) than plot.
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T'Pol - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:47:52 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377648
>many "experts" have made grave mistakes
>Steve Irwin

Steve Irwin is probably not the best example, he did incredibly stupid things on an extremely regular basis.
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Abu Nazir - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:29:39 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377650

If Steve Irwin can exist, then why can't the Biologist in Prometheus? That is the argument.

The guy above thinks Prometheus was terribly written because these characters do dumb things, but the fact that people, even acclaimed experts, do "dumb shit" all the time means that Prometheus's script is true to how we know humans to behave.

And especially in a film that is about the folly of humanity, how can you not expect human naivety, curiosity, and arrogance to be on full display? If the Prometheus crew was filled with cautious, calculating geniuses, they would've never even gotten off the ship. Send the fucking Android to do the field work. I'm sure that'd make for an interesting movie....
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MacReady - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:38:23 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377651

>If Steve Irwin can exist, then why can't the Biologist in Prometheus? That is the argument.

There comes a point in movies where characters act so dumb that it actually takes you out of the movie. It's fine for them to fuck things up every now and then but the scientists in Prometheus are teen-slasher-tier stupid and it's frustrating to watch.
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T'Pol - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:15:30 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377651
>The guy above thinks Prometheus was terribly written because these characters do dumb things, but the fact that people, even acclaimed experts, do "dumb shit" all the time means that Prometheus's script is true to how we know humans to behave.

The crew of the Prometheus don't just make mistakes, they make blatantly stupid decisions again and again and again.
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Jacob Black - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 17:52:22 EST ID:BbSz+s0Q No.377654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377594
Don't worry about it, that line is so fucking funny I didn't even notice the mistake until I'd copied it into my post. It just made it funnier IMO
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Terry Bates - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 19:33:11 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377653

>again and again and again.

Yeah, it's almost as if they're meant to portray real people 🤔

But yeah, I don't think they fucked up that many times. Vickers fucked up by not running in a straight line, and the Biologist and Fifield got lost (for totally legitimate reasons), and then the Biologist fucked up and took Fifield down with him. I'm not about to condemn a movie like Prometheus over something so petty as a curious scientist, a stoned geologist, and a panicking woman.
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Rob Reiner - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 21:06:32 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377660
>Yeah, it's almost as if they're meant to portray real people.

Maybe mental patients. "I'm going to take my helmet off": that's not a mistake, that's psychosis. That's like "I'm going to stick my dick in the garbage disposal". Holloway wouldn't pass the psych screening for stocking shelves at Best Buy. And then *everyone* does the same thing. These are supposed to be scientists. It's a completely unbelievable scene.

That's one example of the characters acting in a completely unbelievable way. If that was the only time something like that happened then it wouldn't be a big deal, but it happens *constantly*.

Another example, "I don't want to be your friend, I'm just here for the money." said the *geologist* in a cockney accent. It's completely unrealistic. This is supposed to man who would have had to write and defend a phd thesis at some point. They should have cast Hugh Grant as a Mexican cage fighter while they were at it.

And again, if this was the only thing or one of a handful of things then it wouldn't really be a big deal. But it isn't, it's constant through the movie. The flight crew and Holloway act like first year frat boys on football scholarships at Florida State, Fifield acts like a resident of San Quentin, Millburn seems like he should be a side character in Harold and Kumar got to White Castle.

Most of the characters were completely unbelievable due to their actions and dialog.

> Vickers fucked up by not running in a straight line

I can buy that she may have been terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought. The trouble isn't only that her path choice was dumb, it's that it was comically ridiculous. It completely clashed with the tone of the scene.

> the Biologist and Fifield got lost

I'd give that a pass. It seems like a weird writing decision to have someone who's so enthusiastic about his "pups" that he howls like an animal when turning them on (and that I definitely don't give a pass to) get lost. But I didn't think that was a huge problem.

> the Biologist fucked up

That was on par with the helmet removal. If you come across a white, unidentified snake-like creature in South America you stay the fuck away from it. If you come across one on an alien world where incredibly advanced beings clearly died violently then you stay well and truly the fuck away from it.

And then there's the plot...
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Kara Thrace - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 22:03:18 EST ID:7ci5Rxnp No.377663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377653

I know what your picturing is referencing.

That was a mistake.
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Rob Reiner - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:08:33 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377663
Yes, that was a mistake.

I really have to wonder about the engineering in that situation though. I don't know anything about that stuff, but I can't imagine a situation in which one would want to release the clamp while the bell and chambers are sharing atmosphere and are highly pressurized relative to the exterior environment. I would have thought that the interface between the bell and the chambers would form a pressure lock and that the only way to remove the bell from the apparatus would be to close bulkheads between the bell and the interior and equalize pressure between them.

But, as I said, I don't know anything about that stuff. Still, seems a pretty brutal price to pay for a simple fuck up.
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Edward James Olmos - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:41:11 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377660
>Yeah, it's almost as if they're meant to portray real people

LOL no

These aren't just your typical average morons, or at least they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be scientists and professionals. Fucking up the way they do, pulling stupid shit like breathing an unknown atmosphere for shits & giggles or trying to pet an alien snake monster; this is not how REAL scientists behave.

Have you ever met an actual human? Or do you live in a literal circus, surrounded by clowns, and you think that's just how people are?

Oh hold on, I just scrolled up and read your other shit.

>Like, why would you even write this? Do you actually feel good and confident about yourself when you have to resort to that degree of pettiness? Chances are I like the same movies you do, so what's it say about you when I have "shitty taste"? lol.

First off, you pulled out the insults first, so I'm not gonna shed a single fucking tear that your feelings are hurt by me saying you have bad taste you pussy. Second, you like Prometheus, a steaming pile of overwrought garbage, so I doubt our tastes are at all similar. I like smart movies and I like dumb movies, you like dumb movies that try to look smart. I imagine that says a lot about you as a person, judging by your posts here; you're incredibly condescending for someone seriously trying to defend the behaviour of the characters in Prometheus.

Dum dum.
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Terry Bates - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:42:54 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377662

>"I'm going to take my helmet off"

The air was breathable and showed no signs of toxicity. Do you wear sunglasses inside? In fact, a feature of the derelict vessel is that the compartments enters a stasis when no living being is present, which is why the dead bodies were preserved.

>This is supposed to man who would have had to write and defend a phd thesis at some point.

Yeah, a guy who stares at rocks all day should be a extroverted, people person. And surely there has never been any historical figures who displayed the same anti-social tendencies... Cough... Newton, Tesla... Also whose to say Fifield isn't in some enormous (drug) debt? That'd justify him being there for the money.

>The flight crew and Holloway act like first year frat boys on football scholarships at Florida State

Young macho dudes shouldn't act like young macho dudes. Got it.

>Fifield acts like a resident of San Quentin

You're right, he should be more like Indiana Jones.

>Millburn seems like he should be a side character in Harold and Kumar got to White Castle

I don't even know what this means.

>It completely clashed with the tone of the scene.

I didn't see any problem with it. It's not like they played Turkey in the Straw while she was running for her life.

>If you come across a white, unidentified snake-like creature in South America you stay the fuck away from it.

Genuinely a good rule to follow, but there are still people who'll go against that and touch it. And that singular event shouldn't be any general indication of their intelligence or personality, etc.

People be dumb. Pic related.

>And then there's the plot...

What's wrong with it?

>>377670

>They're supposed to be scientists and professionals.

And I've demonstrated that scientists and professionals make similar mistakes all the time. You've got this ideal in your head that scientists and professionals are infallible and never make mistakes or slip-up. IDK where this bizarre idol-worship of yours originates, but it's silly.

>pulling stupid shit like breathing an unknown atmosphere for shits & giggles or trying to pet an alien snake monster.

The atmosphere wasn't unknown — it was noted as cleaner than Earth's. Prior to them even entering the structure, there was speculation that it was a terraforming machine, which of course is confirmed once they get inside and find it identical to Earth (if not better).

I've spoken on the snake many times now, the story remains the same.

>this is not how REAL scientists behave.

And you know how real scientists behave? I don't think you're much of a scientist, because that'd require good observation and information processing, two things you clearly lack, as single lines of dialogue whiz past your head.

>Have you ever met an actual human?

Yep. Was at a party this past Sunday actually, where I met loads of ordinary people. Some intelligent, some dumb. Few even drove home drunk — geniuses!

>you pulled out the insults first

I'm not a kindergarten teacher, I couldn't care less about the use of insults. But if you're going to insult someone, have some logic behind it. You can't just yell random shit and expect it to stick. I called you an idiot, and my logic is your lack of logic and general obtuseness. You told me I have shit taste, something I'm more amused than offended by, and what do you base this on? ONE movie. Like shit, you couldn't probe more? Imagine how irrational a person might be if they went on a date... "So what's your favorite movie?" "I really like Jaws" "God, you have shit taste, I'm out of here" "Oh... Well what's your favorite movie?" "Badlands" "That's my 2nd favorite movie..."

That you think it's appropriate to jump to these sort of conclusions based on limited information, just harkens back to my original claim of you being an obtuse idiot. And yet you criticize the stupidity of others and put scientists on top of some pedestal.

>so I doubt our tastes are at all similar

Well what are your favorite movies? I'm very versatile. I'll go from Bergman to Pee-Wee Herman in one night.

>you're incredibly condescending

Translation: I don't like you because you make me feel and look like an idiot.

What's new? Anyone who can't hold their own in a discussion tend to feel like the other party is overbearing and overcritical. I'm not your fucking friend, I'm not going to be gentle with you. I was gentle with the girl at the party, when she said modern music is soulless and talentless. I come to 420chan to exchange ideas and test them against criticism. It's all about exercising the mind and becoming a better person. You think Prometheus is my favorite movie? Not even close. I enjoy it and I'm in a position to defend it, and that's all. Nothing else is going on in /mtv/ that I give the slightest fuck to comment upon. Prometheus it is.
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Rob Reiner - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:54:54 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377678

>The air was breathable and showed no signs of toxicity.

So what? They had scanned a single room and had no idea of what sorts of microorganisms might be lurking around. The fact that the air was breathable indicates that they are in a biological environment, a biological environment that they know nothing about.

Taking off their helmets was completely insane. The characters had been very poorly established up until that point in the movie and that scene establishes them as idiots.

> In fact, a feature of the derelict vessel is that the compartments enters a stasis when no living being is present, which is why the dead bodies were preserved.

Not sure how that helps with our character's bizarre decisions.

> Young macho dudes shouldn't act like young macho dudes.

The point is that they shouldn't be young macho dudes. Prometheus is supposed to be an extremely advanced and expensive ship on a historic scientific mission. It would be crewed by Chris Hadfields, not by a bunch of douche-nozzles.

Those characters don't make any sense in the context of the movie.

> (Fifield) should be more like Indiana Jones.

You're joking, but that would actually be a huge step in the right direction. The filmmakers in the Indiana Jones series actually take the time to establish that Indiana knows things about history and archeology. Additionally, he can actually hold a somewhat intelligent conversation.

Fifield speaks like someone who hasn't passed grade 10. To establish Fifield as a geologist we get "I love rocks." That's a horrible way to establish a character.

Fifield comes across as extremely uneducated. Qualified geologists are not uneducated. The character doesn't make any sense.

>Genuinely a good rule to follow, but there are still people who'll go against that and touch it. And that singular event shouldn't be any general indication of their intelligence or personality, etc.

Yes, it is strongly indicative of intelligence. There's a difference between a mistake as in "oops, I opened the wrong valve and now a bunch of people are dead" and "I'm going to reach into the lawnmower blades while it's running". One is a mistake, the other is just stupid.

> I didn't see any problem with (the running away in a straight line from the rolling ship scene).

I'm lead to believe that the vast majority of people in this thread saw the problem, which means that the film makers should have seen the problem. At some point someone working on the movie should have said "this element is one step away from being in a Warner Brothers cartoon in a scene that's supposed to be the height of the space horror in a space horror movie, we should probably do something else".

>And I've demonstrated that scientists and professionals make similar mistakes all the time.

No, they don't. Scientists and professionals have "oops" moments on a regular basis and occasionally those moments are catastrophic. The Prometheus crew don't have "oops" moments, they have complete idiot moments and they have them at a ridiculous frequency. Between them doing insanely stupid things constantly and the bizarre choices of dialog and characterization
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Terry Bates - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:07:58 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377685

>They had scanned a single room and had no idea of what sorts of microorganisms might be lurking around.

"Our bio-sensors can detect trace amounts of toxic contaminants, making workplaces safer. [...] Polymer film bio-sensors can detect airborne toxins and life forms down to 500 nanometers." https://www.weylandindustries.com/electronics

>Not sure how that helps with our character's bizarre decisions.

Just reinforces the idea that the ship was (mostly) dead.

>The point is that they shouldn't be young macho dudes. Prometheus is supposed to be an extremely advanced and expensive ship on a historic scientific mission.

Shit, have you contacted the United States Military? Those guys are recruiting kids right out of high school to operate their multi-million dollar technology! You should warn them how reckless and dangerous this can be.

Tbh I think you've over exaggerated the whole "frat boy" thing. Makes me wonder how many male friendships you've had in your life. My dad (55 y/o) was playing ping pong, drinking beer and smoking weed, and talking about women with his high school buddies in the garage just a few days ago. I'm pretty sure that's just what it means to be a guy who has guy friends. This is Trump's "locker room talk" all over again, lol.

>but that would actually be a huge step in the right direction.

No, you're joking. That'd be terrible. I can't believe you think an Indiana Jones copycat would be better than the money-hungry, no nonsense druggie who would rather talk to a rock than a person. The latter is a unique character.

>Fifield comes across as extremely uneducated.

Anti-social = Uneducated. Good to know.

Funny you say this tho, because Fifield's character is the cautious one who realizes they're in over their head and wants to go back to the ship. You should like Fifield in comparison to Shaw and Galloway, whose dangerous ambition you also loathe.

>Yes, it is strongly indicative of intelligence.

Its sad that you think what may be a temporary lapse of judgement is permission to label someone a moron for the entirety of their life. Life is a complex web, there are so many factors. Excitement, peer pressure, fear, etc. can cloud the judgement of an otherwise intelligent person. What more can I really say? You either give people a benefit of a doubt or you don't, and that's the difference between you and I. I don't assume the Biologist goes around putting his hands on everything, but I think the given situation got the better of him, and whoops, big mistake. That's all it takes sometimes.

>that the vast majority of people

Idc.

>which means that the film makers should have seen the problem

I'm opposed to filmmakers catering to the shortcomings of audiences.

>in a scene that's supposed to be the height of the space horror

What? That was supposed to be the height of the film? What the hell, lol. I mean, it's a great scene but completely overshadowed by the Engineer awakening, the caesarian, Fifield attacking...

>The Prometheus crew don't have "oops" moments, they have complete idiot moments and they have them at a ridiculous frequency.

This distinction you keep making is arbitrary as fuck. A mistake is a mistake. An idiot repeatedly makes mistakes and that's why they're an idiot.

Now, you're claiming that the Prometheus crew kept making mistakes "at a ridiculous frequency," but the numbers don't add up to me. I count one gravely mistake per person. Fifield shouldn't even count, since all he did was get lost — it was the biologist's singular mistake that cost them both their lives. But if you're gonna blame a man for getting high and having his comms wiped out by a static storm, so be it.

Where are all the other mistakes? I'm not counting shit like taking off their helmets, because that wasn't a mistake. The air was safe to breath and no lifeform were detected by the pups. It's not like they pulled a fucking Arnold from the Magic School Bus and took off their helmet knowing full well there was no air.

More mistakes pls.
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Edward James Olmos - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:05:41 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377678
>Translation: I don't like you because you make me feel and look like an idiot.

No you stupid douche, I don't like you because you've literally called me an autist for saying Prometheus sucks. If anything you make me feel super smart in comparison to yourself, and judging by how this thread's going I'd be thinking glass houses if I were you.

I mean, which is it? Are they professionals or incompetents? Do I not get the movie because I'm not paying enough attention or because I'm a nitpicking autist? Come at me with that sizzling logic you got there bro.
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Major Motoko Kusanagi - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:02:47 EST ID:7ci5Rxnp No.377694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377678
>Genuinely a good rule to follow, but there are still people who'll go against that and touch it. And that singular event shouldn't be any general indication of their intelligence or personality, etc.

Autism x 1,000,000

It was a shitty movie, and the characters were retarded. The plot was boring and contrived, with a super boring twist at the end. It completely failed to present a single theme, and there was no overarching tone. Just bland and boring as fuck, the worst Alien movie yet, and I'm including AvP.

The unforgivable thing was that they felt that Giger's original design was too phallic (duh, that's why it's scary), and tapered the head. Just fucking garbage.
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Major Motoko Kusanagi - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:10:01 EST ID:7ci5Rxnp No.377695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377689

It wasn't scary.
It wasn't scary because we have no idea what the alien threat even is.
It wasn't scary because nobody gave a shit about those stupid characters.
It wasn't scary because of the goofy tone present throughout the movie.
It wasn't scary because the "gore" looked like something out of a 90s movie.
It wasn't scary because the film missed all the psychosexual and existential themes of the previous movies.
It wasn't scary because no WY goons.
No Alien.
Personable android.
Shiny clean CGI spaceship.
Shitty characters.
Non-existent plot.
Shitty characters.
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Woodhouse - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:35:13 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377689

> Anti-social = Uneducated. Good to know.

It's not that he's anti-social, it's his appearance and articulation that says to me "not a geologist".

> Funny you say this tho, because Fifield's character is the cautious one who realizes they're in over their head and wants to go back to the ship.

I agree with that, Fifield seems to be one of the more sensible characters. He just doesn't seem like a geologist to me. I actually loved his reaction to the biologist getting sex-snaked, he pretty much just stood there, panicking and without a flying clue what to do. That's exactly what I would have done in that situation.


Anyhow, this argument is clearly going nowhere at break-neck speed. From my perspective the faults in the movie are as obvious as being hit in the face with a large mouth bass and you don't perceive them as faults at all. And I'm pretty sure, given what a book this thread is turning into, that we aren't going to change each other's opinions.

Moving on.

Have you read the original Jon Spaihts script and, if so, what did you think of it?
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Michael Mann - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:42:41 EST ID:/O51FZCM No.377697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377692
Prometheus has a ton of issues. But the weird part is that its inconsistencies are oddly consistent. It's like the old Mr. Burns getting a check-up (Pic related).

Sure, if you focus on the negatives you're going to have a bad time, and I certainly don't fault you for your opinion. However, it's a gorgeous movie, it's got some cool things going on with creature design, some superb performances from Fassbender and Rapace. They might be doing retarded shit and saying retarded things, but fuck if everything else isn't 10/10.
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Michael Mann - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:44:13 EST ID:/O51FZCM No.377698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377697
pic related
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Splint Chesthair - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 04:45:30 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377697
You know, I was thinking that maybe it was meant to be a comedy. A bunch of scientists go into space and one by one die of their own stupidity; that's comedy material. Maybe I'll watch it again sometime and enjoy it by pretending it's supposed to be funny, like Twilight.
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Woodhouse - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:35:47 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377710

I was planning to watch it again sometime with the idea that Weyland had gone completely insane long before he put the whole thing together and that he found the crew while wandering the streets.
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Luke Skywalker - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:02:04 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377696

>>377696

>>377692

I called you an autist because you can't communicate, you can't empathize or sympathize, and your don't understand abstract concepts.

>Are they professionals or incompetents?

Professionals with flaws who get caught up in a exciting/terrifying situation and make mistakes.

>because I'm not paying enough attention

When you miss the part where Halloway says the atmosphere is breathable and cleaner than Earth's, and you're left scratching your head asking "Why did they take off their helmets?!?!?", that makes you unobservant.

>nitpicking autist

You're a nitpicking autist when you criticize Weyland hiring a drug addict, when it can easily be explained off-camera.

>>377694

Explain how that is autistic, thanks.

>It was a shitty movie, and the characters were retarded. The plot was boring and contrived, with a super boring twist at the end.

I can't refute what you're saying when you don't provide any examples to support your points.

>It completely failed to present a single theme

More like: I failed to comprehend a single theme.

The biggest theme in film is the relationship between the creator and creatée, and how the creatée tends to egotistically assign special meaning to their existence, and the film does in a real wonderful way through the introduction of David. David is an Android created by men, pushed around by men, dismissed by men. And yet when men go looking for their creator, the Engineers, they're surprised to learn they're as ambivalent towards humanity as humanity is towards Androids.

>>377696

>it's his appearance and articulation that says to me "not a geologist".

Well let this be a lesson that it's wrong to stereotype people for how they look and act. There are eccentric people in all sorts of careers — I remember that rocket scientist a few years back who sported a Mohawk; there was another rocket scientist who wore an anime bondage girl t-shirt, people subsequently flipped out on him, and then he went on camera, crying, and apologized for being a sexist pig.

>Have you read the original Jon Spaihts script and, if so, what did you think of it?

Nope. Maybe I'll read it after this thread, but I spent $15 on books last week that I haven't even read a page of, so...
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Peggy Hill - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:29:52 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377727

>When you miss the part where Halloway says the atmosphere is breathable and cleaner than Earth's, and you're left scratching your head asking "Why did they take off their helmets?!?!?", that makes you unobservant.

You will never be able to convince people that this wasn't stupid. No matter what the magical Weyland doodads say about the atmosphere, if you're on an undiscovered alien planet and you take your helmet off cause your Earth-instruments gave it a once-over, you're an idiot.
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Luke Skywalker - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:56:14 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377729

Okay sure, and don't get vaccinated cause of the off-chance you end up paralyzed. If you believe in science and you believe in technology, there is no reason not to take off the helmet that distorts your vision and makes it a pain in the ass to speak to your crew.
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Peggy Hill - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:16:57 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377736

>Okay sure, and don't get vaccinated cause of the off-chance you end up paralyzed.

You're terrible at arguing, and the vast majority of audiences still rightfully think that scene is ridiculous because it establishes the characters as complete idiots. Good day.
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Gwen Cooper - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:30:07 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377713
>the "geologist" was just some homeless guy
>he loved his toys so much because he was excited to use them for the first time
>that's why he got lost

Hey, I think I'm starting to like this movie.
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Cary Grant - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 00:24:26 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377727
>I called you an autist because you can't communicate, you can't empathize or sympathize, and your don't understand abstract concepts.

I don't think you ever called me an autist. And I do understand abstract concepts, it's like if you took Wassily Kandinsky and replaced all his methods with comments that read "//TODO: implement me". That's what we are talking about, right?

>Have you read the original Jon Spaihts script
>Nope

Too bad, you seem to be really (really, really, really) into the movie and it would be interesting to hear your perspective.
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Gwen Cooper - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:56:49 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWnTW4rL0U

Everything Wrong With Prometheus In 4 Minutes.
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Susan Ivanova - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 08:43:00 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.377775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377739

I'm terrible at arguing, yet all you can do substitute insult for rebuttal, vomit logical fallacies, and try to make this about me. Surely you're an authority when it comes to arguments...

To elaborate on the vaccine comparison, since it obviously went over your head, and will probably go over the head of others, it's simple.

Vaccines are a technological advancement preventing disease. The Weyland sensors are a technological advancement detecting toxins and biological entities. You said of the latter:

>cause your Earth-instruments gave it a once-over

What you're implying here is that there is a possibility that the sensors could be wrong, that there could be failure on some level, and therefore it wasn't worth the risk.

Apply that logic to vaccines. We know that vaccines have been known to fail on some level, that they can have terrible side-effects. Are they worth the risk? Of course. We don't know the failure rate of the sensors, but I imagine in the year 2093 they've got their shit together and it's probably less than 0.5% — so why abstain from almost sbsolute certainty? LV-223 wasn't the first alien planet to be visited, either, FYI. It's not like the pups were being used for the first time ever. Weyland had colonized over 60 planets by the time the Prometheus crew lands on LV-223. At that point, the protocol for interacting with alien planets had been long established, tried and true.

>>377760

Didn't mean to reply to your post #. I type my comments in the Quick Reply box and forget to erase post # sometimes.

IDK what you're talking about with this Wassily shit.

>Really into

I'm not lol. Like I said, not even one of my favorite movie. It's a movie I like, and I like to argue, so why not argue about a movie I like. Maybe I'll read this script, maybe even today, idk.
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Xena - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:55:03 EST ID:3a5PQ+q6 No.377787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377775

Please shut up about vaccines, I saw your point the first time you tried to imply I'm some kind of Luddite for thinking the people in Prometheus were stupid for taking their helmets off. Talk about "making things about me"! It didn't go over my head, I just still think the movie is stupid.

Maybe people wouldn't think that scene was so dumb if Weyland's planet-colonizing superior technology had been established in previous Alien films, or some more context was given to that in Prometheus itself. As it stands, it's a very jarring scene with only a couple throwaway lines to justify it.

Again, it's death by a thousand cuts. The helmet removal scene alone isn't enough to sink the movie for me, but the biologist stuff, them getting lost (with their superior Weyland technology), the pointless Weyland-father subplot, and the complete lack of context about the movie's place in the larger Alien story are enough to qualify the movie as a mess. It clearly had themes and craft and real work put into it, but it gets bogged down by so many details that make the viewer go "wait, what?"

If you love the movie, that's fine, I'm not going to insult your tastes over it. I myself didn't hate it outright. But please refrain from the condescending "you guys just didn't get it" bullshit. I'm pretty sure we got it.
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Baby Cakes - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 20:26:06 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.377792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>377745

And David is behind it all. David already knew about LV-223 from his own investigations when he got Shaw's message to Weyland. In the message Shaw was trying to convince Weyland of her theory, which came across as silly, but Weyland was quite senile by that time and it might be possible to convince him. David broke into Shaw's computer and found that the stars in Shaw's cave paintings really weren't that similar to each other and the constellation that Shaw had identified had nothing to do with anything.

So David modified Shaw's images to make the symbols in each image closely match the constellation that Shaw said they match. He then convinced Weyland of the validity of Shaw's claim and set out to collect the most expendable "crew" he could find. His selection criteria were based solely on his utter contempt for humanity and who he could find that would go along with statements like "if you just pretend to be a geologist you will make a lot of money".

Once the crew was in hyper sleep David changed the flight plan and set course to LV-223. He spent the years observing the stupid human's moronic dreams and their asinine religious delusions. He dreamed of the day when he could actually have a conversation with a being he considered intelligent and how wonderful it would be to slowly impale the crew on their own idiocy.
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Lisa Ryder - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:58:56 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.377795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Prometheus Goofs

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Prometheus_goofs

Here's my favourite;

>In the scene where Holloway exhibits the ancient artifacts that depict the star system they are travelling to, he shows artifacts from Sumer, Babylonia, Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt, and refers to these as "unconnected" cultures.
>In fact, the terms Sumer and Babylonia both refer to Mesopotamia (in the region of modern day Iraq); the terms Sumerian and Babylonian are generally used to refer to different time periods in Mesopotamian history. These three terms actually refer to the same culture, and so they are far from unconnected.
>Furthermore, it is well known that the people of Sumer/Babylon had extensive contact with the Ancient Egyptians via trade and war.

Prometheus in a nutshell imo.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:41:35 EST ID:FcpXvA89 No.377811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I ain't even gonna waste my time spoilering all that text. Good back and forth discussion at least.
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Chuck Lorre - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:51:53 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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New 4 minute clip!
https://youtu.be/XZ0Rx4aqWr0

Looks like absolute dogshit

>Everyone is cracking jokes, so unprofessional
>Pilot is a drunkard, not very realistic
>Bunch of ugly bald fat guys on a colonization mission, bad genes shouldn't be included in a colonization mission
>HOMOSEXUALS on a colonization mission?!?!

David is the most realistic character in this movie. Why does Weyland hire dumbasses to colonize? I can't wait for Red Letter Media to tear this movie apart!!! I feel dirty.
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Sally Solomon - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:02:26 EST ID:CeVkcBY5 No.379410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>377811
Lol, chiggy getting a big head about his ocd editing
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Celt !BzcOsK03.w - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 02:33:59 EST ID:Sn7GGrTD No.379422 Report Quick Reply
>>379405
>>HOMOSEXUALS on a colonization mission?!?!
First off, if you mean colonise as in colonise an entire planet, as in start living there and they're the only colonisers (no more reinforcement//new arrivals), you need a hell of a lot more people than the 15 or so shown in the trailer. It takes roughly 500 humans in a colony to prevent inbreeding.

Are they 500+ in the cargo? Or more people on the way? If yes, cool, then it really doesn't matter that there's 2 gay guys along for the ride. If no, well it's a moot point, because the offspring of these people would be inbreeds anyway and the colony would eventually fail because of congenital health defects in the population.

That's putting aside the fact that on any given mission you'd surely have people around who don't need to breed to be valuable to the mission.

So yeah, gays get to go to space too...
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Officer Barbrady - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:34:26 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.379423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379422
I feel like this whole post is wishful thinking
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Officer Barbrady - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:35:04 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.379424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379423
*wishful thinking, you just want to go to space.
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Ice Cube - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 06:47:15 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>379422

I don't genuinely believe what I wrote, Celt, I'm mocking the types of people who scrutinize everything and refuse to let movies be fun.
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Christopher Lambert - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:43:07 EST ID:NwD+GdVR No.379435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379422
Jesus Christ, what the fuck is wrong with you.
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Federico Fellini - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 14:22:32 EST ID:fbuxomL4 No.379438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Danny McBride in this shit lul
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Cora Peterson - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:23:54 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Get it while it's hot!

https://youtu.be/svnAD0TApb8
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Korben Dallas - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:33:39 EST ID:jZQuyVQg No.379686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379685
was that white colored thing a deacon? I saw some sort of small tentacle-ey thing that wasn't a facehugger too.
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Cora Peterson - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:53:25 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>379686

Doesn't look like a deacon. Wrong color + no pointy skull. Kinda looks like the hybrid from Alien IV, lol, obviously it's not but it's got the skin color and deformity down to a tee.

I'm not sure what tentacle thing you're referring to. I only saw facehuggers. I did see weird dead bodies that looked like conjoined twins tho, WTF is up with that.

At this point I just wanna know how Shaw ties into all this, if she does at all. This new girl is cool and all, but I need Shaw.
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Annyong - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:11:14 EST ID:WHBUrZKw No.379691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>379685
I'll watch it and probably enjoy it, but goddamn there was no winning with this one. People will shit all over it. Personally, I was hoping for something more like Prometheus with more coherent writing. Hard to judge from a trailer. Looks like a bridge between Prometheus and Alien in terms of content. What the fuck happened to Shaw? I thought for sure she and David Head would be in this. This stinks of executive meddling but whatever, more aliems wooooooooooooo
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Leni Riefenstahl - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 10:45:15 EST ID:vbdJjbyX No.379713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379685
DAMN this movie looks DANK
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Billy Boyd - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 13:53:56 EST ID:82KVXRuB No.379736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>379685
So I haven't been following this thread to close as it seemed to mostly be centered around Prometheus arguments... So I don't know if any plot details were known until now or anything like that. The colonization mission is actually a pretty cool idea and fits thematically with Alien, at the same time it does seem extremely familiar. A lot of people online are complaining about the CG, up until that end shot (which wasn't terrible or anything) I thought it was actually pretty good. Despite being CG it still has that sort of puppet weird signature movement.

Hoping for the best!

>>379691
I'm cool with them not being there, Promethus 2 (or some other title). If the marketing and this trailer is anything to go by, they certainly haven't forgotten about it. "The Path to Paradise begins in Hell" or something like that.
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Bialar Crais - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:57:39 EST ID:l+lK6rN5 No.379743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I assume that since the whole plot of Prometheus happened by a private company they could have just erased any record of ever going to that planet? But why would they? Saying that because oviously the colonizing crew doesn't know shit about the planet, or that anyone had previously been there.
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Cora Peterson - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:32:39 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>379743

The planet in Prometheus is not the same planet as this movie. Totally different planets. There is also a 10 year gap between the movies.

There is a rumor about there being a prequel book being produced before Covenant's release that will continue Shaw and David's story, for anyone wanted more Shaw.

But the recent trailer revealed something Shaw-related, so semi-spoiler warnings : http://imgur.com/a/1L6cS
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Noranti Pralatong - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 20:01:01 EST ID:jZQuyVQg No.379758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I want to see where Shaw's storyline goes cause the shit she's after is fascinating, but I don't see why everybody liked her as a character. she spent most of the movie acting like a dumbass, down to her last lines of dialogue.
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Daniel Dreiberg - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:41:57 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.379778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEEwAvlJOcI
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Annyong - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 12:42:56 EST ID:3V8Tgtak No.379951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Between the crappy CG xeno and Kenny Powers, I can't take this movie seriously.

Just looks like a fanservice version of Prometheus.
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Elijah Wood - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 12:52:13 EST ID:9VJr+onN No.379953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This movie looks incredible, dudes! Loving the cast too. Shits only 2 months away, I'm stoked
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Buzz Lightyear - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 12:57:43 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.379954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379951
Yeah it definitely is a little off-putting that Danny Mcbride is gonna be in it, but I've got faith in him. After watching him in Vice Principals I got to see a bit more of his range. I think he can pull it off.
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Elizabeth Swann - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:57:00 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.379964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379953

Hell yeah, between this and Trainspotting 2, seems like I'm gonna be going to the theater a lot more than I usually do.
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Khal Drogo - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 21:08:49 EST ID:uInzn1Q/ No.379970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379964
A lot of good stuff coming out as of late. Still need to go see John Wick Chapter 2 and Get Out.
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Sister Mary Eunice - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:45:40 EST ID:8p7qX+aj No.379976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>379954
McBride is definitely an asset to this movie.
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John Goodman - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:08:07 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.382148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://youtu.be/XeMVrnYNwus

Shaw!!!!
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Wikus van de Merwe - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:13:28 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.382149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382148
Holy shit!
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Wikus van de Merwe - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:14:43 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.382151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382148
So there's the plot with the ship from the first trailer, and the plot with Shaw and David??
Awesome
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John Goodman - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:50:03 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.382153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382151

Not two separate plots, but intertwining. I don't think Shaw is going to have much a role in Covenant, but David will. David is about to go full Assad.
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Gigolo Jane - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:10:35 EST ID:Hnl7U7dj No.382165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382148
Oh fuck yes!!
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Terry Nation - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:18:24 EST ID:l+lK6rN5 No.382175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382153
Yeah they were foreshadowing that pretty hard lol.
But yeah that's awesome. When we didn't see any of David or Shaw in the original trailer, I wasn't sure if they were gonna be in it. I'm very happy about that.
I hate to say it, because it makes me sound like a douche kinda, but it looks like it's gonna be epic.
Those visuals were really badass. I haven't really seen anything kinda like that since Chronicles of Riddick. It looks beautiful.
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Black Dynamite - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 16:48:16 EST ID:jXjGsIxz No.382176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382175

I still think Shaw is the cloaked figure in the original trailer. Like John said above, I'm hoping the two stories intertwine and Shaw & David wind up on the same planet as James Franco & Kenny Powers' chucklefuck cavalcade to clean house after the Xenomorphs fuck everyone up.
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Lana Wachowski - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:37:52 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.382195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382176
I've got faith in the chucklefuck cavalcade
I kinda get a feeling that the cast will be utilized in a way that's similar to Aliens with Bill Paxton and the rest of the crew, with good comic relief and action.
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Officer Barbrady - Sat, 06 May 2017 11:20:47 EST ID:vbdJjbyX No.382514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SOON.
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Major Motoko Kusanagi - Sat, 06 May 2017 15:18:00 EST ID:82KVXRuB No.382519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382175
Ya, my jaw actually dropped when they descend on the city. That looked really good IMO. A lot of theories jumping around now, I'm getting hyped.

>>382176
Have you/ everyone else seen the Instagram video with Shaw as some sort of hologram? People are theorizing she has somehow mutated into something else, people claim to see tentacle type things... I don't really see it.

and just to be clear, this isn't spoilers I don't think... This is Paradise right? unless the engineers inhabit multiple planets this is indeed Paradise... or it was. David drops some goo on them and that's their bodies are what we saw in the first trailer
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Lana Kane - Mon, 08 May 2017 00:11:18 EST ID:ReS6ZPPG No.382568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Welp, everyone is talking shit about it and even the people praising it are like "It's a 7/10 bro".

But I don't give a DAMN, since I liked Prometheus it's clear I don't agree with these people to begin with.

I'm still going on premiere night, even if I have to go alone.

And yes, this is the Engineer's homeworld they're arriving at. At the end of Prometheus, that's where David and Shaw were going, so if there on this planet, it's fhe homeworld. In fact, some magazine even showed pictures of the Engineer plebs.

I hope there is an explanation for these Engineers looking so ugly and unmagnificient compared to the god-like, Greek statuesque figures we saw in Prometheus. My theory is their plebs, common folk, and the Engineers we saw were soldiers or some type of upper class. Or maybe these Engineers have just been wrought with disease or some shit, inbreeding maybe.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 08-05-2017 07:55:38
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Han Solo - Mon, 08 May 2017 12:26:23 EST ID:jXjGsIxz No.382580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382568

That makes sense. A group of Engineers disgusted by the imperfections of their race go to another world to create their own perfect race and then hilarity ensues.
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Squidward Tentacles - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:04:24 EST ID:jXjGsIxz No.382995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The reviews going up on IMDB today are pretty brutal. It sounds like the movie is a mess with an (expected) cast of incredibly stupid characters. I'll still see it because, fuck it, it's an Alien movie, but I'll probably just go for an early bird showing with the elderly in a couple weeks.
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Londo Mollari - Fri, 19 May 2017 00:03:58 EST ID:i1Mds/3l No.383002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382995
I kinda figured the new crew would be idiotic and unlikable after seeing them in the preview. still gonna see this though. might wait till it hits the cheap theaters but I'm still gonna see it.
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Slab Squatthrust - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:07:55 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.383010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I really wanted to like it, but it's more boring Prometheus shit. That's not to say there weren't some cool things about it.

The ending was heavily telegraphed.
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Jap food for Contrast - Fri, 19 May 2017 07:01:51 EST ID:hFE5c5S+ No.383025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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EWW Alien
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJtYDb7YaJ4
It starts with one.
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Kristen Johnston - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:47:24 EST ID:Lg7qrAMR No.383035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>382995

The crew is beyond dumb...people at the cinema I went to loudly objected to some the the dumbest decisions they make.
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Sister Mary Eunice - Fri, 19 May 2017 17:06:50 EST ID:MRRLGxn+ No.383050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>382995
no shit lol
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2316204/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
>I truly believe Ridley has gone senile, why else would he sh*t all over his legacy?
>Incredibly making 'Prometheus' seemed decent in comparison, 'Alien: Covenant' is a glorified monotonous pit stop in the film series.
>Is this Ridley Scott or Uwe Boll?

New Bladerunner will suck too.
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Alex - Fri, 19 May 2017 18:45:39 EST ID:GDbPIJfg No.383052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383050
>New Bladerunner will suck too.

Please, no. Please...
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The Waitress - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:17:46 EST ID:WGBeW52Y No.383054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383050
Ridley isn't directing the new Blade Runner thank christ
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Malcom Reynolds - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:37:37 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.383063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks Ridley for ruining the lore of one of my favorite franchises so you could plug your stupid philosophical nonsense and prop up your new android husbando
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Wilson - Sat, 20 May 2017 09:36:47 EST ID:FshC2Pj3 No.383094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383063
>prop up your new android husbando

I had a good chuckle.
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Barbara Bain - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:42:22 EST ID:i1Mds/3l No.383105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383050
>>383052
there's really no way it could turn out good.
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Gene Hackman - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:03:55 EST ID:ZcIyryzD No.383117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>382995
> The reviews going up on IMDB today are pretty brutal.

It looks like even the people who liked Premetheus hated Covenant. I'll be waiting for this to come out on the 'tubes and may still skip it.
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Ellen Ripley - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:55:55 EST ID:Scltqi2B No.383196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I saw it yesterday and I strongly recommend anyone wanting to see it to wait until it comes out in cheaper theaters or it hits torrents.

It was so damn boring, the first 20 or so minutes were so redundant. Some mechanical failures happen that could have been skipped because they end up following a beacon to get to where David is at.

Just a bunch of nonsense going on. I don't recommend.
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Graham Chapman - Sun, 21 May 2017 23:02:59 EST ID:/Wm+E9JJ No.383201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383196
I liked it. I liked it better than Prometheus for all that matters. It's more horror sci-fi like, and less action sci-fi. I think the main issue was the poor character development. There were just too many characters and they all died too quickly. I wasnt moved by the deaths of any of them, I didn't even know they existed until I saw them die. Maybe there was just too much happening all the time, and too few dialogues between characters.
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Blossom - Tue, 23 May 2017 17:16:28 EST ID:3FAvbxbh No.383284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>382568

>I liked Prometheus
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Mikaela Banes - Thu, 25 May 2017 23:51:32 EST ID:CLnvqJUh No.383383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I finally saw this piece of trash. God what a disappointing follow up to Prometheus, Resurrection is no longer the worst Alien movie.
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Alec Hopkins - Fri, 26 May 2017 02:37:41 EST ID:8soux3Rt No.383385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sad thread :/

I'll still watch it but it's disappointing that it seems to have done so poorly.
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Michelle Forbes - Fri, 26 May 2017 04:08:52 EST ID:iYcpqlgM No.383387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383385
Like Prometheus it suffers from stupid scientists, but it's probably overall better
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Rubeus Hagrid - Fri, 26 May 2017 04:37:50 EST ID:jxjoS6gY No.383388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383284
It was fiiiiiiiiiiine fam.
Looks more inspired than this at least.
Granted I'm not talking as an dyed-in-the-wool Alien fanatic.
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Ace Ventura - Fri, 26 May 2017 11:14:26 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.383403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383388
>Granted I'm not talking as an dyed-in-the-wool Alien fanatic.
Yeah, that's why.
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Amy Pond - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:48:34 EST ID:kVUm+SiJ No.383411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383387
Nah, at least Prometheus had insanely good pacing and took the time to introduce (most) people before they were killed. Even ignoring how much I hate the direction this took the series in and the implication that David created the facehugger eggs we see in Alien it's just not made as well. It honestly felt like Ridley Scott didn't even care about it imo.

But really, Prometheus asked a bunch of questions and it would have been far more interesting to see a direct sequel that actually tried to answer them. The fact that Shaw got to Paradise but never got to confront her creators is a massively wasted opportunity. It's like they said "fuck it, who actually cared about all that lets just kill a bunch of people again. Oh but the captain is christian so here's some half-assed religious stuff that's never even important or actually addressed."
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Dewey Cox - Fri, 26 May 2017 16:56:11 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.383421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383383

At least Resurrection kinda follows through with the same themes present in the previous Alien films.

One of the main problems with Scott's Prometheus trilogy thing is that it feels like it could be a completely separate set of films merely inspired by Alien but having nothing actually to do with them. Even if you liked Prometheus, if you approach as an Alien film AND as a part of the Alien franchise, it feels really out of place and almost like it's just been shoehorned into the Alien franchise for marketing purposes or because Scott thought that if he made the movies independent of Alien, these films wouldn't sell. By making Prometheus the "prequel" to the Alien franchise, a franchise Scott did not create but only directed the first film entry, which was based on the work of writer Dan O Bannon and the art of HR Giger, Scott probably thought he could use it as a platform for his own philosophical soap box without losing any money.

Resurrection may be a bad movie, but it's definitely much more in the spirit of the previous films and in the spirit of Giger's artwork than Prometheus where there seems to be a clash between the spirit of the Alien franchise and Ridley's own concepts, even right down to the design of the film. Alien Isolation as a video game does a much better job as a prequel/midquel entry that returns to the roots of the franchise than Prometheus does.
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Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart - Fri, 26 May 2017 19:51:50 EST ID:RnDlscrj No.383429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just saw this and thought it was basically okay, but I can understand people's complaints and those are pretty much what kept me from liking it more. There's really two movies here. There's what the director seems to have actually wanted to make, Prometheus 2: The Further Adventures of David, and the movie that either he or the studios felt needed to be made to draw people in, Alien 5: Just Like the First One But Super Duper Gory. The David & Walter stuff is really great, Fassbender continues to be dynamite in these things and there's an energy and thought put into those scenes that just isn't there for the rest of the film. There's also things to admire about all the slasher movie in space bits, like the opening scenes before they discover the planet, the crane fight and the impressively bleak ending, but it also suffers because of pretty much all the same things that hurt Prometheus, i.e. bad writing, far too many characters who are thinly developed and do stupid things for plot's sake, and a severely Ripley-esque main character played by an actress nowhere near as good as Sigourney Weaver.

I didn't hate it, and my gut feeling is it's the best Alien film in 30 some-odd years, but it also didn't do anything to change my opinion that Ridley Scott has lost his touch in a major way. Thank god he's not directing the Blade Runner sequel.
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Jackie Brown - Fri, 26 May 2017 23:57:58 EST ID:i12BTgDQ No.383435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383429
>but it also didn't do anything to change my opinion that Ridley Scott has lost his touch in a major way

I feel like Ridley is trying to use these movies to explore some personal spiritual stuff he's been going through for a long time but the problem is that it just makes these movies seem a little too heavy handed in their philosophical musings and the musings themselves aren't all that deep or have been explored better in other films before it.
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John "Kindergarten Cop" Kimble - Sat, 27 May 2017 00:19:05 EST ID:RnDlscrj No.383439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383435
Actually a major positive was that I didn't find this one to be near as obnoxious about that kind of thing as Prometheus was. Prometheus was all about finding answers and the meaning of life and what not, Covenant is just a mean nasty movie that doesn't really give a shit about any of Prometheus' big questions and seems to, if anything, sympathize with David's desire to just destroy everything.

I'll also add in that vein that I love that they cast James Franco to get incinerated in 10 seconds. That's some next level Drew Barrymore in Scream shit.
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Christopher Lambert - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 21:20:08 EST ID:WHBUrZKw No.383657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I liked it. A nice blend between Prometheus and Alien, however that creates some problems as more questions pop up than answers provided. Still, I don't really understand what the negative response was about. It's a fucking horror movie, if the crew acted rationally there would be less opportunity for nasty shit to go down. Do you really need convincing to suspend disbelief for a movie about fucking aliens?
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Buff Drinklots - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 22:06:31 EST ID:QKdMyBE/ No.383658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383657
>It's a fucking horror movie, if the crew acted rationally there would be less opportunity for nasty shit to go down.
That's an excuse for lazy screenwriting. The human crew of the Nostromo acted for the most part perfectly within reason, they were just forced into a shitty situation by corporate scumfuck policy and bad luck. The characters in these pseudo-prequels constantly make huge unforced errors so glaring that even general audiences notice immediately. It's hard for me to feel any horror or tension if the characters don't act like they value their own lives.
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Err - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 01:53:02 EST ID:PIXohNKK No.383666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
at the end of the day I'm fine with these movies no matter how mediocre they get as long as they continue to star Fassbender as a homicidal robot because that shit is A+++++
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Daffy Duck - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 06:16:14 EST ID:RoJKB15f No.383668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383658
I watched Life a few days ago. I thought it was a good example of characters in a horror movie acting mostly rationally but still getting fucked. The Alium franchise has no excuse, it's just gone to shit.
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Cap'n K'nuckles - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:06:20 EST ID:Qd0Hc8IS No.383726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383666
lol this. only difference between covenant and prometheus was fassbender outperforming himself

also that flashback scene of him arriving to the planet was fucking good! i was expecting more footage of that
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The Waitress - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:58:50 EST ID:QKdMyBE/ No.383727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383726
I would [i[love[/i] to see a whole movie dedicated entirely to Fassbender being a creepy robot mass murderer that was allowed to be its own thing. It just sucks that instead they feel like they have to staple a half-assed Alien fanfiction to the end of it.

Just let it be its own thing, Ripley! David wants to make something new. Let him make something new, not just CGI bootlegs of existing movie monsters.
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Kathryn Beaumont - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 19:42:37 EST ID:fn+K5eja No.383729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>383666
I haven't seen Covenant yet, but Fassbender's David sure did stick out in Prometheus. He was so much better than anything else in the film.


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