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Black Mirror season 4 by Denver, the Last Dinosaur - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 11:41:40 EST ID:PFOOT5Nj No.392397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Debuts at midnight tonight. Get fucking hyped.

Also, thanks to this board for being on the cutting edge and getting me into this show back when season 1 had just wrapped airing. I know it isn't cool to play gatekeeper of fandom, but fuck the fans who only found it through Netflix and say San Bernedino is the best episode because 'muh happy ending'.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:33:21 EST ID:IqHerwo9 No.392400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's San Junipero and while at first, I didn't like the episode, I've come around on it though not for the reason you stated. I don't think the show always has to be dystopian. I found out about the show on here when there was a thread for the Christmas Special and Netflix released the first two seasons around the same time, which got me and others on here into the show.

Anyways I'm looking forward to watching this season though I'm waiting to do so with my friend in a few weeks.
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Bernard Hill - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:49:21 EST ID:c/XLnRo0 No.392401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I told my friends I'd wait to watch it with them during the New Year's Eve pregame party.

I lied.
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Denver, the Last Dinosaur - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:54:52 EST ID:PFOOT5Nj No.392403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392400
>It's San Junipero
I'm now remembering what San Bernedino actually is and that it definitely didn't have a happy ending. my bad.
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Han Solo - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:26:48 EST ID:OJrCsll8 No.392421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
+1
San Junipero was the best episode of the season.
Get butthurt
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Billie Piper - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:42:26 EST ID:h3TqJacj No.392450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watching ep 1, loving the cast, so far seen Todd from Breaking Bad and McPoyle from Always Sunny.
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Billie Piper - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:18:46 EST ID:h3TqJacj No.392451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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finished ep 1, it was fucking everything I like from a BM ep. I mentioned Todd from Breaking Bad was in it, but man byt the end, he was stealing the show. His performance reminded me of Evan Peters when he plays crazy. Also Breaking Bad fans, keep an ear out for a voice acting cameo from one of the shows lead stars.

fuck yea its Black Mirror binge day! 1 down, 5 to go. I've seen reviewers say the eps after this one aren't as strong but I'll be the judge of that, critics are notoriously pedantic cunts.
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Arsene Lupin III - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 14:18:18 EST ID:c/XLnRo0 No.392454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>USS Callister
8/10 Novel concept, interesting execution, didn't need to be that long.

>Arkangel
6/10 Predictable and interesting, yet a bit of a chore to watch. Puts a fresh spin on something that's been explored before. Has a good message on modern society.

>Crocodile
3/10 Boring, predictable. Doesn't say anything interesting about modern culture despite taking place in a relatively modern world.

>Hang the DJ
3/10 Basically a more tedious, drawn-out version of the Xmas vignette about cookies. The jabs at online dating are trite.

>Metalhead
10/10 I've never seen anything quite like it before, very exciting. No message relevant to modern life but perhaps that's to it's advantage.

>Black Museum
9/10 The twist got me and it was certainly entertaining, but the concepts have already been explored. I feel Black Mirror does so much better with this format if the Xmas episode is any indication.
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Major Alan Schaefer - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 15:34:44 EST ID:mkMeQhw/ No.392456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fairly solid season. Only one episode sucked, and one was meh..
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Tim Minear - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 16:39:38 EST ID:Zh/sUEXx No.392458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392454

I take your rankings with a grain of salt, but I do appreciate that you took the time to rank each episode lol. Black Mirror really is hit or miss.
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Kenny Powers - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 19:36:15 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.392461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watched half of the season. They're not being very original anymore or even trying are they?

The Star Trek one was pretty fun in a horrifying comedic way. But it just recycled the cookie concept from Christmas episode while also being set in christmas time. So nothing new there

Second episode was predictable and didn't really have anything new either what with the concept being a hybrid of the christmas episode and The Whole History of You from Season 1 but I liked it because it actually told a nice story. The timeskips were awkward as fuck though and it was very predictable. Would have liked it more if the guy who took her virginity actually tried to help her. All they needed to do was to get two of her friends to her house and distract the mom for like 10 minutes while one of them told her about her using the arkangel again. She then could have found it and destroyed it. The mom got her comeuppance though so I'm happy.

Third one was a fucking chore. Nothing new, no good characters and a snails pace but I guess the scenery was all right. Once again recycling the concept of someone being able to access your memories. Not to mention the 100 000 year old sory of someone having to do exponentially drastic things to cover up a crime or a wrongdoing.

You could do all sorts of stories and concepts with a series like this but they recycle and borrow from older episodes a bit too much
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Jee-woo Kim - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 22:13:41 EST ID:36qWrDag No.392464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
USS Callister was basically a perfect ep of Black Mirror, and they did a good job of making it also reflect some fun Star Trek{/%] tropes in a new way. Not that [%]making DNA clones in a program have fully developed consciousnesses and information from the DNA the life of the organism they were cloned from makes any logical sense but hey, it's tv.

Gonna watch Black Museum next since it's not like order matters for this show and I hear that one's good as well.
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Rose Tyler - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 03:23:35 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392454
>Doesn't say anything interesting about modern culture despite taking place in a relatively modern world.

What? it was about how advanced techniques on obtaining witness testimony leads people to do worse shit than they originally did. Like the only reason she killed the insurance lady was because she say him killing that guy, which lead her to killing her baby and her husband. All of which could have been avoided if the guy who got hit by a pizza van didnt see a pretty girl who say the flash from a guy who say the lady in the window. "why would anybody kill a baby?" "trying to get rid of all the witnesses"
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Callie Maggotbone - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:14:23 EST ID:c/XLnRo0 No.392471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392469
"Murderers typically have to kill more people to cover their murder"

This is a story as old as time. Notice I said that it said nothing *interesting* about modern culture. It said something. It simply wasn't interesting. Unless you're a philistine I guess, but I usually hold the users of this forum to a higher standard.
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Sauron - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 04:57:32 EST ID:r8D6zVXH No.392472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just started the series on the new season and I loved pretty much every episode.

Hang the DJ was my favorite, heartwarming stuff. I fucking lost it at the "Ahhhh" while he was going down on her

The Jodie Foster episode was also really well done, some of the best TV I've seen in awhile. Some moms just love too much
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Rose Tyler - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 06:11:27 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392471

Yeah, but not if they dont have to. which is exactly what the setup of the show conveys, they got away with a murder for 15 years because there was no witnesses, then when the guy was going to confess she killed him, which led to the string of other murders in the episode.

Like i honestly dont think you should be hinting that someone is a philistine when you couldn't understand such a simple concept and its relevancy, this is even more evidenced in your 3/10 rating for it. Sure it wasnt the most interesting episode but you failed to even understand the key concept of the episode.
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Rose Tyler - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 06:12:38 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392472

totally agree! i loved the Jodie Foster episode.
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Scorpius - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:49:10 EST ID:h3TqJacj No.392481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392472
The Joie Foster ep was good but I find I agreeed with this post >>392454 that it was "a bit of a chore to watch". Its a tad slow and the atmosphere and music is so anxiety inducing that I wanted the episode to be over already and spare me one more minute in these peoples terrible lives.

EDIT: also, that chick totally got raped and murdered by that truck driver, right? LOL at them setting us up to think its a semi-happy ending only for 'the implication'

This post was edited by stevens on 30-12-2017 09:08:40
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William Adama - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 08:51:09 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The music they use in this show is always so oddly enchanting.
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Porco Rosso - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 18:39:19 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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hmmm
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Scrooge McDuck - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 19:36:59 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
for fuck's sake. Episode 1 is the same conceit as the one with the woman put in an alarm clock and they're both just ripping off the same short story, Cookie Monster by Vernor Vinge.
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Tex Avery - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:24:45 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Metalhead was fun as fuck to watch and the episode really stands out among all black mirror episodes.
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Tex Avery - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:30:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392504
So far I've watched 2-5 as I figure the first and last are probably the best so im saying those. Essentially 2-5 are all very entertaining but the only one that stood out to me as particularly awesome was metalhead. The rest were just fun but don't stand out among all episodes.
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James Stewart - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:37:25 EST ID:Zh/sUEXx No.392508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Daly is a fucking animal
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Robin Williams - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 01:36:15 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392500

yeah they are rehashing themes this season. seems like charlie booker has run out or doing 6 episode seasons is too much to come up with totally original episodes.

That being said ive never even heard of cookie monster, ill have to check that out because the christmas special was one of my favourite episodes.
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Butt-head - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 03:57:53 EST ID:bytHZHsp No.392510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Monkey needs a hug
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Monster Carrot - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 04:17:22 EST ID:SRNxHcZG No.392511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392454
>Crocodile 3/10

Eat a dick, that ending was hilarious.
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Kate Mulgrew - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 04:30:58 EST ID:E1IYAD/C No.392512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392511
The ending did make me laugh out loud. I was glad they went there. But overall the episode was pretty bleh for me. She was like the T-1000. Just physically unstoppable even though she looked like she was 90 lbs. If that even.
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Jar Jar Binks - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:27:15 EST ID:l+lK6rN5 No.392513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Episode 6 was really cool.
It is like an anthology within an anthology.
Anthology-caption.

The museum owner dude is a great actor as well.

Even though some themes have been repeated, the show is still very fun to watch and the concepts explored are always interesting. Especially the tech concepts but also the philosophical ones.
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Monster Carrot - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:45:30 EST ID:SRNxHcZG No.392514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392511
Also

>Boring, not original, been done before, durr durr
>Literally a black and white Terminator clone
>EHRMAGOD 10/10
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Scrooge McDuck - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 08:12:30 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why does nobody in the BM universes mind having pins shoved into their temples? That would be insanely painful.
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Dustin Hoffman - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 08:26:33 EST ID:x1fM2OyY No.392518 Report Quick Reply
>>392500
It also ripped off the ep where they blackmailed a pedo into doing shit from the data on his cloud. This ep was far less belieable. I can see wanting to keep being a pedo a secret but if your a chick with sexy photos as the only blackmail, would you really break into someones fucking house and do all that ninja shit? Id say just leak my fucking nudes, I'd rather have people wanking to my selfies than go to fucking jail for god knows what length.
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Scrooge McDuck - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 08:54:16 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392518
Both good points.
Feels like they've just got a shared pool of tech articles and news stories to use as inspiration so some of them get reused.

>>392509
Here's a copy if you couldn't find it.
https://www.ida.liu.se/~tompe44/lsff-book/Vernor%20Vinge%20-%20The%20Cookie%20Monster.htm
I really liked it when I first read it in particular for its originality but after watching those episodes it may have less impact. I still think it handles the concept better, possibly because the author actually knows the subject matter.
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Francois Truffant - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 09:02:24 EST ID:CL45uNP1 No.392520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392518
well, her crew mates did comment on acrobatics or something so i think it was something more than some nudes. like sucking her own pussy
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Dustin Hoffman - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 09:06:00 EST ID:x1fM2OyY No.392521 Report Quick Reply
>>392520
red fucking line

EDIT: also yall watch this shit fast. I'm only 2 eps deep, saving them for when the mood strikes.

This post was edited by stevens on 31-12-2017 11:09:00
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Scrooge McDuck - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:48:46 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone else notice the preponderance of three digit numbers throughout the episodes? Always written in the same font as the titles. I've made a note of the ones I spotted.
1: 402
2: ?
3: 304
4: 473 (305,127,414,367)
5: 95-DY42? Also a bunch of numbers on the guy's notepad anyway the stream I have froze half way through so I don't know if there are more
6:

Ep4 would have been better if they'd ended it at "Is it alright if I think of her?" "If it's okay for me to think of him" "Great" then matched them.
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Fist Rockbone - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:56:41 EST ID:pX/jK14J No.392524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392523
>Ep4 would be better if they removed what made it interesting
disagree
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J-Roc - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 15:46:47 EST ID:yB87bezu No.392534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392454
I think the first and last episodes were the best, not sure which one I'd rate higher. I agree with the other ratings except for Metalhead, it was cool and comes third for me but it got a bit boring after a while. And it's commenting on the whole "rogue ai" thing which people have feared for ages and still do
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Robert Baratheon - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:49:27 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.392536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Space Trek and metalhead didn't really fit with the rest of the show in that they didn't use sci-fi to explore any concepts organically or do anything novel with them, just used them to set up a dramatic scenario.

Space Trek was charming enough to be my second favorite episode this season, but I found Metalhead disappointing. Some people getting hunted down by a robot is uninteresting without any deeper glimpses of the world beyond "the robots killed everything else".
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The Man with No Name - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:02:21 EST ID:SRNxHcZG No.392539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392536
Not to mention the contents of the mystery box was dumb as shit.
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The Hound - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 07:47:48 EST ID:x1fM2OyY No.392557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392511
Just finished it, can confirm am laughing my ass off. "Who kills a baby?" a gigantic fucking retard, that's who
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The Lich - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 08:08:03 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392536
Nah metalhead was pretty clear and obvious. The "dogs" were designed in basically the exact same way that these new walking robots are. It's just a play on the silly collective fear of ai and robots. It may not be super deep but it does follow the Black Mirror MO which is to use tech to examine and play out social issues and ideas.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 01-01-2018 22:16:55
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The Lich - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 08:08:48 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392560
forgot pic
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Theon Greyjoy - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 10:03:19 EST ID:r8D6zVXH No.392567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392560
I think the fear of robotics being used militantly is justifiable considering it's already happening. And promoting this fear is a very positive thing.

Won't stop governments dumping funding into robotics though.
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The Lich - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 10:09:15 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392567
True, I didn't really think of that. Just using drones to bomb people already has bad consequences because it just adds barriers between the person doing the killing and the people killed.
I've heard that many people who operate drone bombers have all kinds of issues surrounding their service.
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Alice Murphy - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 11:23:19 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really liked the dog's design, it looks like a shield bug or something with dog legs. It's quite pleasing to look at.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 03-01-2018 02:39:27
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Alice Murphy - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 12:24:50 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Number for episode 6 is 302.
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Liz Lemon - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 23:28:43 EST ID:x1fM2OyY No.392593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hang The DJ was fucking terrible. OP here, only mentioning because I said I hate San Junipero there and this one sucks for the same reasons. Shit was like that episode only without lesbians and trying to go for an Eternal Sunshine Spotless Mind and Truman Show mash-up
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Kelly LeBrock - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 01:32:37 EST ID:r8D6zVXH No.392595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392593
You just want things to be miserable all the time, don't you?
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Patrick Bateman - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 04:49:51 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392593

Hang the DJ was probably my favourite episode this season.
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Hannibal Lecter - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 07:18:43 EST ID:GzDlIDy5 No.392603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392595
idk I liked eps 2 and 3s style of Happy Ending over this type
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Jack O'Neill - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 02:37:08 EST ID:zBvYuxUc No.392622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392593
I love San Junipero but think Hang the DJ was easily the weakest ep of season 4. Surprised to see it so highly rated tbh.
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T'Pol - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 07:34:31 EST ID:GzDlIDy5 No.392624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just watched Metalhead. I blame Obama. Ep made me feel like a kid watching horror movies again, borderline yelling at the screen for characters to run faster. Also, were they really doing all that for some fucking teddy bears? Or were they getting important stuff and the teddy bears were just a bonus?
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Riddick - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 07:45:45 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392624
Yes, they were doing it just for a teddy bear, as a replacement for one a dying child had lost. Thing is, I don't think they really expected there to be any dogs there. It's not like Terminator where everything's got the same one or two different types of baddies that you can expect; it's a more realistic future where there are lots of different sorts of security mechanisms made by different companies just left to rot like improvised IEDs after a guerilla war. They were wary but had no real idea what to expect. Maybe nothing, maybe anything at all. I assume. Stuff that people are calling plotholes that seem pretty explicable to me.
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Meryl Streep - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 08:04:03 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.392628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbMtuJ1tZnc
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T'Pol - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 08:31:04 EST ID:GzDlIDy5 No.392631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392625
I wsn;t trying to pick plotholes, just baked and trying to wrap my head around the plot. Thanks for clarifications.

For the ep, I wouldn't call it 10/10 like the guy who did numbered reviews said, but I still enjoyed it. It was the shortest ep of the season, unless the finale ahead of me is randomly shorter (Which I doubt). Given the fast paced plot, I'm glad they didn;t drag this one out another 10 or 20
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Riddick - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:33:52 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392631
I was addressing plotholes I saw other people pick, not you. Just sort of venting. It was an okay episode.
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Harry Potter - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:47:16 EST ID:ooJjTpDq No.392638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392632
Venting off what. It's a fictional tv show get over yourself.
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Riddick - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:51:23 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392638
Just that I didn't have small enough change to fuck your mother.
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Slab Squatthrust - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 11:06:22 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392624
It's supposed to be about remaining human in the face of fucked up conditions.
And I guess the suicide plays into that because it's one final way to make your own choice.
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Chippy - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 22:04:56 EST ID:SUC6ryzI No.392650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The first episode was a fucking hoot! Creepy but it never went to far. I like that the universe "Todd" created was "wholesome" things could have gotten a bit to fucked up otherwiseA lot ideas are being reused, I'm okay with that if it's done in an interesting way and that episode was a good example. Good to see McPoyle getting around.

The chemistry between the two actors in "Hang the DJ" was great, I just wasn't left completely satisfied with the ending. It felt sort of strange, I understand what happened but it feels more bleak than say San Junipero when it probably wasn't the intention. I assume they're the same sort of digital clones used in past episodes, them not really existing or "dying" at the end of it made it less impactful for me.

Crocodile was meh although the ending was fantastic, really tense. I liked the investigator but she's not our main character. The protagonist really isn't that likable here, morality aside. The Jodie Foster episode could have been shorter or had some crazier shit happen in it but overall it was worth the watch. Metalhead and Black Museum left to go.
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Mickey Smith - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 08:38:58 EST ID:zXNDiC9x No.392660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Black Museum
>black people hold a white woman slave and call her Monkey a lot
ok
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Leon Black - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:26:12 EST ID:SUC6ryzI No.392733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392660
I can't find a worthy reaction image for this. You've ascended
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Zhora - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 14:29:08 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.392734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392733
Lol I also thought about replying to it but I just couldn't find it in me to make a worthy reply
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Dirk Bogarde - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:00:46 EST ID:KClUoctz No.392748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392536

I really liked Metalhead. I don't get why people don't like it. I can't really think of another show that's really illustrated the terror of being hunted down by a current/near-future military drone.

The tone was different from most of the show, but I think it's one of the scariest and important episodes in the series.
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Dave Chappelle - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 23:59:26 EST ID:yja6cLPU No.392760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392748
The difference of tone really has nothing to do with it. i mainly wasn't a fan of metalhead because it wasn't as plot-focused as other episodes are. it was basically killer robots chasing some survivor of the apocalypse,
but doesn't develop beyond that premise.

I also wasn't really a fan of crocodile because outside the investigation, most of the plot wasn't motivated/carried by some novel technology, which kinda feels like what most of black mirror has been (e.g. Hated in the nation is a murder mystery but the plot rests on the bee technology)
I'm not dismissing the season btw, and i'm still a fan. Just noting the differences. I also want to mention that I don't care that some of the technologies are being reused from previous episodes either, since the stories themselves are still quite different and satisfying to watch.
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Dave Chappelle - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 04:51:28 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392760

when it comes to crocodile the technology is the motivation for the murders, she wouldnt have gone around killing people if there wasnt technology that could reveal her secret. I mean yeah her friend was going to reveal it himself when she killed him but then she would have been scot-free. The episode was heavily technology focused
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Monica Geller - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 09:32:39 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392771
Didn't he say he'd not implicate her, but the problem was they'd want to rewind and they'd see her anyway?
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Dr. Peter Venkman - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 11:55:58 EST ID:pX/jK14J No.392783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still haven't seen Black Museum but I'll give my current opinions. My overall sense of this season is that it's going for more enjoyable rides than it is going for really thought provoking ideas or fully-considered worlds based on the technology at play, leading to an overall shallower but still watchable season.

>USS Callister
Enjoyable but had a whole lot of points where you have to suspend your disbelief. For once example, the complete lack of safety protocols in the system is just ridiculous. Nobody would play this game if there wasn't a 100% reliable "get out of the game right now" option, and Daly certainly wouldn't remove that from his own personal mod. Feels like they had the ending in mind and used whatever contrivances they could to reach it. But it was still a fun ride.

>ArkAngel
Predictable and kind of lame but it's a topic that works for Black Mirror. I consider it one of the decent filler-tier episodes. Felt like it kind of stopped short of going the extra mile towards a really tragic ending.

>Crocodile
Found it hard to believe the main character going straight from unintentional accessory to being a stone cold killer, and the guinea pig thing while a cute twist is hard to reconcile with what we know of the tech from earlier in the episode (memories are unreliable, and the patients need coaching just to conjure something usable). Not completely immersion-breaking but it's a little telling that they didn't even try to depict it. That being said it presented one of the more interesting ideas of the season, showing how improvements in technology can lead bad people to do worse things than they otherwise would have to circumvent them.

>Hang the DJ
Probably the best of the season IMO. Don't really get why people think the ending is happy. It's pretty damn bleak when you really consider it. Of course it's not the first or even second time they used the idea of copied consciousness so it gets a point docked for that, but overall I thought it was really good and stands beside episodes from previous seasons.

>Metalhead
Was a fun ride, and was not very predictable, so I actually liked this one despite it having almost nothing that I watch Black Mirror for. Could've been a great episode if they gave us more insight toward the world. The doggy was cute.
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Kyle Broflovksi - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:14:51 EST ID:l+jo+vMr No.392784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392783
I also thought that in Crocodile, that characters in the world were unfamiliar with how their own worlds technology works to the point of asking very dumb questions. Imagine a law and order episode where a character goes to get a lie detector and they start saying "a lie detector? what is that? a thing that plugs into me and knows if i tell the truth? whoa man, totally crazy, wtf bro, never heard of it"
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Monica Geller - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:38:12 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.392785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's a preview for an unaired episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR3YvrNpssM
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Skylar White - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 12:59:42 EST ID:eziAnIca No.392815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392784

lol what we have in the real world is the lie detector as this universally known pop culture trope. But then they have to be told that shit never worked, isn't admissible in court and can be completely manipulated just by thinking sweaty thoughts and clenching your asshole strategically.
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Patrick Stewart - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 13:45:02 EST ID:jzRqGgBn No.392817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392783
With Arkangel i really expected it to end with her parental filter getting stuck "on" before the tablet broke, i was kinda disappointed that she just runs away instead.
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Patton Oswald - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 19:36:16 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.392823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392783

>the complete lack of safety protocols in the system is just ridiculous.
They did but they didnt work because his game was being erased for the newer version. If there is no game there is no safety protocols. If he wasnt so power starved irl he could have just exited game and let them all go free, but he had to chase them to fulfil his want for power and control and it ended up erasing him
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 20:44:35 EST ID:bzqQ2Fa1 No.394158 Report Quick Reply
I’m not sure if this season was as good as last season but it was good for what it was. USS Callister and Black Museum were my favorites, Hang the DJ and Arkangel in the middle and Metalhead and Crocodile were my least favorites.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 12-02-2018 22:16:59
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Bruno Mattei - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:42:30 EST ID:qDluoBVh No.394160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394158

Crocodile is in the top 5 of all episodes IMO. I love stories where the protagonist progressively gets deeper and deeper in to shit through their own actions. I also loved how crocodile had the recurring song that's in all the seasons. It fit the dark setting of winter in Iceland with the Christmas lit street line of bars.

I cant even rank Black Mirror episodes. They are all so good. My least favorite was metal head. Wtf was with that ending....? If it means what I think it did it was fucking stupid and kind of ruined the story.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:21:23 EST ID:bzqQ2Fa1 No.394162 Report Quick Reply
>>394160
I thought the concept for Crocodile was interesting but I didn’t like the execution at all but the ending was great. Stylistically Metalhead was really out there and different from other episodes and I liked the tension of trying to escape those robot dogs but plotwise I didn’t think it was as strong. Mixed up that episode and Hang the DJ, which my friend really liked and I thoroughly enjoyed that episode as well.
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Jodi Foster - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:49:09 EST ID:SUC6ryzI No.394214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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After some time I think I've made my mind up about some of these episodes. The ending of Crocodile was tense and what I THINK was happening ,although it made you think the opposite, is that the woman did not actually get caught. She had this paranoia and guilt over the years and now it's just increased tenfold as technology around her has progressed. However the shot of the Hamster at the end is[%/]REALLY FUCKING STUPID! Like I say I think it's there to throw you off but the fact that the show has established they would be a useless witness. As would the child, more than likely. They got into the "madnella effect" misconception about your memories being unreliable. Honestly the concept could have probably been more interesting if they leaned into that more, like coercing people into admitting they did something that never happened.

Ya the ending of 4 is fucked. Totally and absolutely fucked IMO. It felt off and I'm not the only one thinking that. If you want it to be bleak and depressing fine but don't end on such a high note with The Smiths. It was fucking weird tonally. When it ended I was just left with a "that's it, am I missing something" Nope. San Juipero it was not. Still great chemistry between the two actors. I kind of felt the same way about white Bear tho until the credits scene that explains it all. I felt what I was coming up with in my head was much more exiting than what was actually happening.

Metalhead's dope. Doesn't need a story, that's how the worlds gonna end mofos! I mentioned this earlier but making it look even cheaper and realistic would have made the episode even freakier. I think that's the spookiest BM episode. The characters motivation, people complain about it but it's a common trope. What's the point of living if you're only just surviving [%]Kids need Teddy Bears[%/]


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