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The Expanse Season 3 by Muscle Man - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 06:13:15 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.396452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Season 3 has started.

Season 2 ended after
The Roci crew has an intense battle with the protomolecule soldier after picking it up on Ganymede and somehow they all come out unscathed.
Mars and Earth are on the brink of war as escalations continue and tension mounts.
Avasarala, along with Bobby Draper and her spy/bodyguard Coytar are drawn into Errinwright's and Jules-Pierre Mao's trap and have to find a way off the ship.
The crew of the Roci learns of Naomi's betrayal in giving the protomolecule sample to Fred Johnson.

Season 2 was a whole lot of buildup packed with plenty of action as well. I expect we'll see even more action this season as everything starts to come to a boil with many interesting characters drawn into the fray.
Muscle Man - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 06:21:38 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.396453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The premiere was pretty good. Bobby is really starting to come into her own and I'm guessing she'll be a very powerful ally for Avasarala. Avasarala has managed to cultivate a very devout following in Coytar and I see that developing in Bobby as well.

I love that the Roci crew is totally giving the cold shoulder to Naomi, that bitch earned it. To be totally fair, I think what she did was the right call, although I may be swayed by the fact that I love Fred Johnson's character, but she went about it in a very underhanded way that would have gotten anyone else spaced.

With war being declared by the UN, I'm wondering how quickly this will actually turn into a shooting battle. If this immediately goes into all out war in the beginning of the season, we're in for a hell of a ride these next few months.

Book spoiler:
I've been trying to avoid spoilers as much as possible because I haven't caught up in the books but I have seen multiple times people alluding to the fact that Miller will be coming back. Seeing exactly how that happens, assuming that they keep that part in the show, will be very interesting.

Also, has anyone noticed that Cas Anvar looks like he's toned up a bit? I noticed that in his face. Btw, he's probably my favorite cast member. He does tons of stuff like cons and shit and loves to interact with the fans. He just seems like an all around cool dude. Not to mention how envious I am of his voice. I'd love to shake his hand at a convention.
Ashley Scott - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:42:33 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.396460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So glad it's back!

The Razorback looks sexy as hell.

The only bad thing is I forgot how many commercial breaks SyFy has.
Douglas Quaid - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 14:47:43 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.396516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd have to do a hard-scifi nitpick again:

The missile counter measures: Seem to consist of "evasive maneuvers", OK.
But then the missiles are supposed to lock onto the drive exhaust.

Why not simply turn around and fly towards the missiles and do the evasive maneuvers then? Or shut off the drive and only move using maneuvering thrusters?

Less time for that, but at least there is a realistic chance for the measures to be successful.
Not even that missiles are supposed to be 100s of g.
Dicking around at around one g won't make any real difference.
Woodhouse - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:25:31 EST ID:kfccuFTu No.396517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, you can't just dodge missiles if they have any significant amount of fuel and decent thruster power.

I think the best bet of evading missiles comes from the fact that while they go fast and turn pretty easily they can't actually slow down very well unless they flip and thrust against their momentum. So if they're going too fast they actually might not be able to turn enough to hit you.
They'll still be circling ominously and if you tried to fuck off in a straight line suddenly they don't have a problem hitting you straight in the ass.
Douglas Quaid - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:41:50 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.396528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I think the best bet of evading missiles comes from the fact that while they go fast and turn pretty easily they can't actually slow down very well unless they flip and thrust against their momentum.
Yeah that's why it's probably even a good strategy to do a high g burn towards them.

Since it's a one hit kill in any case the increase in momentum won't matter. And every bit of momentum decreases the time the missile has for course corrections. And once you are past the missile the missile has to work against the momentum created by it's own engine which will be significantly more.

Second you can probably use your exhaust to fry them while passing them. The drives in The Expanse are essentially relativistic plasma accelerators, since you don't see Ships carrying alot of reaction mass the exhaust velocity has to something like 99.999% C.
Humphrey Bogart - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:35:37 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.396539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The show never really claims to be hard sci fi. It's just sci fi that often uses physics to make space battles more realistic. Some fans might claim it is but it's more like a harder version of sci fi than most.
Kristen Cloke - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:56:01 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.396542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>still having cable
Ethan Coen - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:37:27 EST ID:V+EoMha1 No.396552 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well at least we have the technology to use physics to keep the gun turrets from looking all Babylon 5 on us.

The thing about Amiga Lightwave animation is that you can't see how unnatural it looks at 5 frames per minute in wireframe mode.
Federico Fellini - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:53:22 EST ID:l+lK6rN5 No.396587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you know if LEXX was made using Amiga as well? I've noticed that the cgi looks extremely similar.
Ethan Coen - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:09:13 EST ID:V+EoMha1 No.396588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a later production, pretty much entirely after the death of Commodore and the Amiga but the shitty raytracing is definitely 90's Lightwave. There weren't a lot of competitors then like there are now. I dunno if they'd moved on to regular PCs by then. They might have just installed beefed up CPU expansions in their big box Amigas.

It serves Lexx a lot better than most shows since it's basically a dark comedy. The janky animations on the Mantrid drone arms are hilarious.
Godzilla - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 19:04:31 EST ID:4PYKAkjr No.396607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think Lexx was just "lowest possible cost CGI." Which just happened to look like the Video Toaster product.

Just my theory.
Marvin the Martian - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 22:11:23 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.396613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe missiles have other ways of tracking targets, but select targets which have shown drive exhaust so they don't get tricked by chaff and/or just turning the engine off.

I was somewhat surprised when they showed the science ship in a geostationary orbit, that wasn't around the equator, on Venus, which doesn't even allow for geostationary orbits but I figured they weren't in orbit, but accelerating away from the planet at the same speed it was pulling them in.

This could also account for the gravity on the "orbital" platforms of Ganymede. They're not orbiting so much as just constantly flying up.
Gandalf - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 06:10:39 EST ID:V+EoMha1 No.396632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>"lowest possible cost CGI."
Nah. It started on Showtime and they spent real money on it.

But there was essentially nothing but Lightwave until the 2000s in TV production. And the hallmark uncanny CGIness is more due to the primitive lens and colorspace simulation that was used at the time. sRGB is literally never going to look correct on a modern flatpanel. It was designed for CRT flare-out. They effects are often missing motion blur and the virtual cameras couldn't hold a candle to the f-stops and dynamic range in a real one.

They were simulating the light bounces perfectly, but not the camera optics. And if you watched anything on Syfy channel before the Expanse they continued having this problem right up until The Expanse started.

3D artists absolutely need to know a thing or two about photography, if they don't know they're doing photography they're not qualified and should go work on a video game or a cartoon.
genophyte - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:32:34 EST ID:UO2xAdSc No.396789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Elizabeth Mitchell on the newest episode .

made me remember how much i liked revolution even though it was absolutely ridiculous .
Maester Luwin - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 14:40:37 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.396798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That battle was amazing. One of the best so far and it wasn't even that action packed. I'm gonna refer to that move they used to cripple the UN escort vessel as the "Contorta Maneuver" in honor of the new ship transponder. This was a really cool way for all the main characters to get introduced. Great episode, one of the best and can't wait for next week.
Brock Samson - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:47:34 EST ID:H1jcy/bM No.396802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm flattered but you're not really my type. Hey wait a minute, you're not hitting on me are you? Aw, I didn't want it but now I'm sad.
Gendo Ikari - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 01:47:51 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.396825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm glad that we're finally getting more Bobby. Love her relationship with the Roci crew in the books and I'm excited to see it play out in the show. Really digging how the show condenses things to happen concurrently. Makes sense for the medium. That pillow thing Anna did made me feel all squishy since she does it multiple times in the books.

Gotta say, I'm incredibly thankful that the show hasn't tried to do the 1 season = 1 book thing that so many other adaptations seem to do. That's how you lose plot points and entire characters and stuff. Just look at Game of Thrones. The Expanse seems to have found the proper ratio of 1 book = 1 & 1/2 seasons. Sure, it makes big finale moments happen in the middle of the next season, but hot damn does it work. Granted it seems like the show is combining Drummer with Michio Pa but that remains to be seen. If that's the case I ain't mad. Drummer is bae. Really hoping we get to see certain characters at least introduced this season Sam & Bull mostly.

Who wouldn't welcome death by Snu Snu from the Gunny?
Master Roshi - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 02:32:58 EST ID:rlNQ1eiS No.396826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That one shot of her ass coming down the ladder
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:27:14 EST ID:haC4OFG2 No.396880 Report Quick Reply
She was? Looks I gotta catch up. I liked her on V, which was probably the last good sci fi show on network TV.
Hei - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 17:11:49 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.397149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This weeks episode was pretty cool. Lots of setting things up for what's to come. Bobby brought her military-grade sass along.

The ending was fucked. That lonely remaining missle took out 2 million lives. Them finding out it slipped through their defenses because of a glitch caused by indecision earlier was a real gut punch.
Britta Perry - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:03:27 EST ID:rlNQ1eiS No.397156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I thought that ending fucking kicked ass
the shit with the rail guns all slowly firing one after the other, Jesus christ it was tense. That shot of the fancy Martian missile hurtling towards Earth and being blasted to bits by the defense laswrs, ugh, so good
Keep up the good work SyFy
George Romero - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 20:38:53 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They're doing a tremendous job making me hate Errinwright more and more every episode. That part at the end where he pinned all the blame on Pastor Anna was pretty fuckin brutal.
Emmett Brown - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 23:57:09 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.397176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I meant fucked as in a terrible emotional weight. It was masterfully executed to prolong tension and suspense.

For sure. Interesting how they're making Mao seem more likable (at least a little bit) through his interactions with Mei.
Winston Zeddmore - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:30:34 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.397190 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I think it's just because she reminds him of his now dead daughter that died because of him. He is just regaining his consciense because she mentioned her dad. He was never really that evil, just an amoral businessman that loved his family even though he was absent. I'm betting if there were no little asian girls in the test he wouldn't have stopped though.
Reuben Tishkoff - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:40:05 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.397203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just saying that an explosion that size as seen on the CGI (essentially the size of a quarter of Brazil would lead to decade long nuclear winter. Not to mention the shock-wave would level a quarter of the globe too.
Kurt Sutter - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:00:26 EST ID:rlNQ1eiS No.397208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I haven't read the books but I'm sure they cover it but yeah a nuclear warhead impact that killed 2 million in the Amazon would have worldwide and longterm effects
I've been playing Stellaris with a mod where the whole galaxy has nuked itself at one point or another :( why can't we just get along
Morpheus - Thu, 03 May 2018 05:10:25 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That part wasn't in the books. It looks like the show is doubling down on the Earth Mars conflict at this juncture which I'm not totally sure how I feel about that but I'm sure it will be good.

On some other forum someone called the actress who played Bobbie fat and I lost my shit. She's got curves and she's big. Not quite as big as they portray her in the books but nobody would like the character if she was some massive roided out chick. Also, in the books they actually say that Bobbie is really hot and has great curves, but it's like you take the size scale on a video game character creator and turn it all the way up. So basically Bobbie is a perfect fit but a bit smaller. The actor's attitude and charisma seem to fit perfectly as well.

This episode was relatively meh-ish compared to the previous 2 episodes but it was to be expected considering where we are in the season. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't get to Io yet but that will probably be saved for mid season.

Having just finished Caliban's War yesterday (which is the book that covers the second half of season 2 and assuming all of season 3) it really makes me curious how they're gonna handle the end of this season. There is some crazy shit coming that I will not spoil but that is about the point where shit gets really strange and I'm really looking forward to see if they can pull it off.

Also, damn Avasarala looked fine in that jumpsuit. She's got a hell of a figure.
Elijah Wood - Thu, 03 May 2018 05:32:11 EST ID:hSM74+Sp No.397430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bobbie is like Jennifer Lawrence in hunger games but with a bigger frame.
It's the female version of the buff dad bod. Plus if you work out as much as she would without banging down the calories your tits would turn into flapjacks.
It's better this way. It's what real world strong people look like. Not what bodybuilders or models look like. Pic related, this is a Danish power-lifter.
Elijah Wood - Thu, 03 May 2018 05:38:58 EST ID:hSM74+Sp No.397431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The thing about buff women is they've got more subcutaneous fat and less definition than buff men, so they look like slightly chubby women until they pull this shit.

Then you get your ass kicked if you keep calling them fat.
David Fury - Thu, 03 May 2018 15:57:08 EST ID:wRI8LkQ5 No.397447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Not really but okay. Depends on the estrogen and testosterone.
Terry Nation - Thu, 03 May 2018 21:28:08 EST ID:2C1ZsVRF No.397460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well a lot of women lifters just look like a rail at rest. That's a little bit of a pose or a lean and then all of their shit suddenly pops.

Then you've got these fucking people. And btw I dated a girl a few times in high school and this is her mom. She was terrifying.
Terry Nation - Thu, 03 May 2018 21:32:40 EST ID:2C1ZsVRF No.397461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anyway she was fucking terrifying. Later I found out she made a bunch of porn lol.
Danny Trejo - Thu, 03 May 2018 22:00:12 EST ID:sGW+CuNo No.397462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Commander Louanne Katraine - Sat, 05 May 2018 08:19:16 EST ID:n80w5l/o No.397529 Ignore Report Quick Reply

110% erect.
Thick McRunfast - Sat, 05 May 2018 12:00:18 EST ID:RNoOTJrn No.397540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Produce superhuman offspring by fucking muscle ladies.
Klaus Heisser - Sat, 05 May 2018 12:32:28 EST ID:Gwx2cK1+ No.397541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why do you post such ugly shit ? im tired of seeing this all day
Happy Gilmore - Sat, 05 May 2018 13:40:32 EST ID:/Y8D3q0C No.397542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How dare you speak this way about Tim Curry.
Hoshi Sato - Sat, 05 May 2018 23:34:15 EST ID:vnd6uMxk No.397575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tim Curry is a god and you should be banned for life please leave.
Echo - Sun, 06 May 2018 09:33:24 EST ID:Gwx2cK1+ No.397600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah he’s stupid and gay
Echo - Sun, 06 May 2018 09:33:25 EST ID:Gwx2cK1+ No.397601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah he’s stupid and gay
Kevin Bacon - Sun, 06 May 2018 10:13:36 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.397606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ur mom gay
Mothra - Sun, 06 May 2018 11:21:52 EST ID:niNe34jp No.397612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait isn't that his whole appeal?
Akira - Thu, 10 May 2018 12:24:38 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is the first episode of the series that managed to piss me off.

How Souther's bridge crew managed to make it to the positions they were in yet be totally incompetent and stupid is totally beyond comprehension. They had multiple opportunities to successfully execute the 'mutiny' or I guess what should be described as the arrest of Nguyen but just sat around with their mouths open like retards. Then they wait until AFTER he has destroyed the Jimenez to finally do something. Not to mention that when Nguyen first turned the tables and pulled the gun out of the dude's hand, if you watch the scene again the female bridge officer was just standing their with her mouth agape, staring into space and clearly not paying attention.

Idk, that just really grinds my gears, it was not smartly written or even executed at all.
Punch Sideiron - Thu, 10 May 2018 15:47:55 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.397811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That, also the fact that the captain of the Hamurabi didn't broadcast the proof of the conspiracy the moment Souther got shot, let alone the moment the UN fleet started firing on each other.
Akira - Thu, 10 May 2018 19:42:17 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I wasn't sure if I was being nitpicky, but there hasn't been one episode that has left me with a feeling that they could have done it better before this point. I'll cut them some slack though. I think what it comes down to is that they made the mistake of putting Nguyen and Souther on the same ship, which isn't the way it was on the books. They wanted to add the dramatic tension of a mutiny instead of having people battle it out on viewscreens, and I get why they'd do that. But they should have left it.
Aragorn - Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:42 EST ID:4PYKAkjr No.397874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And...SYFY just canceled The Expanse.

Because why go with good TV when you can pump out Sharknado-tier shit!
Jean-Luc Picard - Fri, 11 May 2018 17:58:56 EST ID:x7Mc3Mwx No.397875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking christ.
Sweet Dee - Fri, 11 May 2018 18:44:28 EST ID:EViv7eOY No.397876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As a book fan, I feel they brought this on themselves for going so damn slow. Should have made each book a season instead of dragging things out so long.
Jack Torrance - Fri, 11 May 2018 20:47:46 EST ID:0aczG18A No.397881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Someone's gotta pick it up right?

Pretty sure Syfy cancelled their deal because they only get broadcast revenue and nobody watches their channel.
Chan-wook Park - Fri, 11 May 2018 22:10:56 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.397891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Never seen this show but they cancelled one of my favorite shows Incorporated after one season. Not sure why they would cancel The Expanse though. Wasn't it really popular?
Ace - Fri, 11 May 2018 22:43:48 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's pretty popular. The ratings were slipping pretty bad though. Syfy just can't get ratings anymore. They were such a shit channel for so long that nobody takes them seriously and they can't pull enough people over to justify big budget shows. It's sad, because they actually do put out some good content. But this new strategy of actually making decent shows might be too little too late considering that they waited until cable was on the brink of dying to streaming.
Genophyte - Fri, 11 May 2018 23:08:52 EST ID:ri96qASQ No.397903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sci-fi can't catch a break in TV format.

RIP almost human
Chan-wook Park - Sat, 12 May 2018 00:00:16 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.397904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They should go all-in. It seems like they're sabotaging themselves by making more expensive shows then cancelling them when they're not happy with ratings. They should be investing in the future of their brand. They keep getting blessed with awesome shows and they're just throwing it away to chase short-term profit. IMO this is what is killing cable TV, not prices, convenience etc. The fact that the same few companies with the same strategies control most of cable has forced better strategies to go elsewhere. Only a few companies such as AMC get it right, but mostly because they have the money to remain somewhat independent, whereas something like syfy is owned by NBC.
Chan-wook Park - Sat, 12 May 2018 00:07:51 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.397905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But AMC has been around since 1984 when it was probably a lot easier to get on cable. Newer networks have a much harder time getting on with selling out to larger companies

Turanga Leela - Sat, 12 May 2018 05:09:04 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.397917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sci-Fi(now SYFY) has been around since 84 too plus they have Canada's Space to help them out since a lot of their shows air on each other's stations exclusively and they work on a lot of shows together so they have money coming in because of that.

While it isn't really true here I just want to take a second and rant about how dumb I think it is when companies cancels after a single series. They used to give shows more time to develop and a lot of the all-time great sci-fi series don't get good before at least season 2 if not 3 and fuck cancelling mid-season. Just finish airing the damned thing. You're just going to have to replace it with re-runs.

Someone needs to get congress to pass a law where no show can end on a cliffhanger and if cancelled unexpectedly they are obligated to tie up the series within X number of new episodes in X amount of time. I'm so sick of so many good shows getting ruined because they were cancelled prematurely and ended on a cliffhanger.
Jack Torrance - Sat, 12 May 2018 05:39:04 EST ID:0aczG18A No.397918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's really fucking stupid that Sci-Fi keeps cancelling their best shows. Very few of them get to live out a healthy 4+ seasons. Eureka and Battlestar Galactica are the only ones I can think of.

Even fewer of them are designed for short runs of 1-3 seasons, which would be absolutely fine by me. SyFy doesn't make the Fawlty Towerses of teh world.

I feel like 3 seasons was a healthy run for Defiance, but The Expanse is slightly better than Defiance, and that might be an understatement (or not, depending how well this season plays out).

Scifi channel used to be the masters of picking up shows dropped from Fox, Showtime, NBC and taking them to a natural conclusion. Lexx, Stargate SG-1, Sliders.
This is a reversal of that legacy. I don't see The Expanse not getting picked up. Amazon and Netflix will be chomping at the bit for it. I'm sure Amazon would love a direct scifi competitor to Altered Carbon. Especially one that shits on Altered Carbon ...or not depending how well this season plays out fuckin' wannabe young Tom Jane detective man show
Jack Torrance - Sat, 12 May 2018 06:23:43 EST ID:0aczG18A No.397920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People don't know about The Expanse, partly because Sci-fi channel trashed its own reputation with ghost hunters and sharknado trash, and killing anything that might become their new mainstay show.

If you took The Expanse and shoved it in people's faces to binge watch on Netflix, the first season would have killed. Netflix basically got to put their entire advertising budget into the production of Altered Carbon, because they have a platform to sell a show themselves and spending a huge amount on a Sci-fi show gets you a ton of free press apparently.
So when you see Altered Carbon at the top of Netflix for a month, and you've heard of it from external sources, you eventually just give in and watch it because you were just gonna rewatch episodes of The Office after 2 minutes of browsing anyway.
Whereas Syfy channel takes two thirds of their advertising budget and puts it in the bank, because they've had money troubles for the better part of a decade. Then nobody hears about it, and when they do it's not available on demand for a few months.
The broadcast model is just shit. It can't compete with streaming anymore. Especially when the network simply doesn't have break-out shows like AMC (Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul), USA (Mr. Robot) and FX(Fargo/Atlanta/Legion/Louie/The Shield/Archer/Sons of Anarchy/Always Sunny) Goddamn, FX has been killing it for years
Anyway, shows like Defiance and The Expanse were the closest things Syfy has had to that since Battlestar Galactica 10 frigging years ago. They should be willing to make no money on these shows, because without them they're a dead brand, and they did it to themselves when they changed their name for no fucking reason to the idiotic "SYFY"
The Expanse's bad ratings are their own damn fault, and they'll never have a successful show again if they don't stop the bullshit.
Adam Horowitz - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:37:33 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.397923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I feel like 3 seasons was a healthy run for Defiance, but The Expanse is slightly better than Defiance, and that might be an understatement (or not, depending how well this season plays out).

The Expanse is way better than Defiance.
Defiance had some consistent acting and some good and bad writing, in that sense it's comparable.
But where the expanse completely blows it away is world-building and story arcs. This may be unfair because the expanse is a book adaptation and defiance is based on an online mmorpg, but still.
And while character development was ok on defiance the expanse is on par with big budget shows in that regard, and this has not necessarily much to do with the books.
Jack Torrance - Sat, 12 May 2018 09:09:42 EST ID:0aczG18A No.397926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Expanse is way better than Defiance
>But where the expanse completely blows it away is world-building and story arcs

Yeah, but where's the world-building now? It died with Joe Miller. And we're running low on story arcs right now too. We've got the war, we've got the gang together and we've got the protomolecule's mysterious motivations somewhere off in the distance.

Where's Fred Johnson and Anderson Dawes? Where's the political intrigue? The Expanse started out almost like a Game of Thrones in space but at the moment it's just not scratching that itch. It's like Season 4 Arrested Development or something.

Defiance started me off with schlocky expectations but kept upping the ante and really impressing me. It was Deadwood with aliens, and there was something excellent about that.

The real defining moments of The Expanse are scenes like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV17X8l_uYs
Ace - Sat, 12 May 2018 09:19:42 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Using the word Fedorable doesn't lend your opinion much credibility and doesn't really make any sense in the context. It makes you sound stupid.
Also, comparing views of a show on a dying channel in a dying format to Netflix is silly.
Bart Simpson - Sat, 12 May 2018 13:33:00 EST ID:4PYKAkjr No.397936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You make some good points.
One thing that killed it for me, was how Syfy licenses out their content. They won't sign up with Hulu, and instead have you wait a full year to get the season on Netflix or whatever. So, all their effort is going into getting people to watch it on the TV, which is a drastically shrinking market share. I mean, we cut the cord three months back and haven't looked back. I couldn't watch the current season if I wanted to. And I ain't paying $100 bucks extra a month for one fucking show.
It is, as you said, fucking bullshit. It's like they are locked in to this singular way of thinking that was relevant 10 years ago. They have failed to adapt in any real way.

Now, my hope is that Netflix or Hulu, or somebody, picks TE up and gives it the AC treatment. Big push at the top of the page. The show is good. It can take the promotion. Then let people binge through 4 seasons. It is certainly better content than some of the shit they shill. Some Chinese shit about a guy who is really a monkey god or some weird-ass Chinese thing. Pretty sure TE beats it miles. It is worth the investment. Let's just hope someone is paying attention out there.
Ace - Sat, 12 May 2018 13:53:57 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just now finally read this post and I have to agree, even though I'm a massive fan there has been a drop in quality of late. What sucked me in was the world building and you're right they're just not getting it without Miller. Thomas Jane was definitely the best part of the show and it sucks not to have him.

I think it also has to do with the source material. The first book had all the great world building. The second and third one have been more action packed. And the action does translate well to the screen, but it is missing something. The intrigue was there at this section of book 2, the whole intrigue thing was them fighting Nguyen and his rogue alliance or whatever, but in the show that aspect is really under-developed. I think they've been focusing too directly on Avasarala and Bobby and not enough on the politics. It's like every time that Nguyen has been mentioned it's just in passing up until the last episode and all of the sudden he's a major player.
Ace - Sat, 12 May 2018 13:55:35 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, yeah people in the UK or Australia who are fans have to wait a full year before Syfy hands it over for syndication or whatever on their local sci fi channel.

They just make it really hard to get a real fandom going. They self sabotage in so many ways.
Jayne Cobb - Sat, 12 May 2018 22:50:19 EST ID:JSNZgmZM No.397961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Defiance is SHTAKO
Chiana - Sun, 13 May 2018 00:11:50 EST ID:0aczG18A No.397965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Canadian Being Human is gutter trash. The original was pretty decent for 2008
The CGI work is a great shaming.
David Lynch - Sun, 13 May 2018 00:32:41 EST ID:vx99qAYk No.397966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I downloaded Warehouse 13 to watch recently and I keep noticing "Up Next: ECW" popping up before commercial breaks.

Did they really show wrestling on Syfy, and if so, who in the fuck thought that would be a good idea?
Party Pat - Sun, 13 May 2018 01:20:28 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.397970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You know who I blame for the cancellation? Syfy. Every other show they do has multiple encores a week (some even on other networks), yet the only chance you have at catching the latest ep of The Expanse is during it's premiere timeslot. There isn't even an encore later in the same evening! Other than that it's up to you to use their app or wait for Amazon to release it.

This wasn't so much Sci-fi's fault as their parent company, Universal, which had a pretty extensive deal with WWE. I think they had to air Smackdown (possibly live) too. They even tried to sell wrestling as superhero-like power battles in commercials.

I'm just hoping we at least get to see "We need to talk." in the little we have left.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 13 May 2018 03:44:02 EST ID:W6e8Eu+J No.397974 Report Quick Reply
Agreed with y’all about Syfy not being what it used to be. USA’s the same way now and even with Mr. Robot, WWE is the only thing that keeps them in the top ten ratings wise.

Syfy used to air ECW, NXT and SmackDown (though it was still taped back then). Still got better ratings than Syfy’s other originals though.
Inspector Gadget - Sun, 13 May 2018 05:55:35 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.397985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Being Human and Almost Human are two wholly different series.
Punch Sideiron - Sun, 13 May 2018 06:25:40 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This thread from the showrunner :/

Kirito - Sun, 13 May 2018 06:25:57 EST ID:PI2AX6IC No.397988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol wow. TIL I can't read.
David Lynch - Sun, 13 May 2018 09:20:11 EST ID:vx99qAYk No.398005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Was that around the same time that Cartoon Network was showing reality TV?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 13 May 2018 11:55:18 EST ID:W6e8Eu+J No.398014 Report Quick Reply
Yeah CN Real would have been on during that time when WWE was on Syfy, which was from 2006 to 2015.
Tommen Baratheon - Sun, 13 May 2018 12:05:02 EST ID:5QFQFiGU No.398016 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>CN Real

A dark time in television.
Kirito - Sun, 13 May 2018 13:14:11 EST ID:PI2AX6IC No.398025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nigga, that's a Trilby.
Punch Sideiron - Sun, 13 May 2018 13:59:12 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hear that Netflix has passed on picking up The Expanse. I guess our only hope is Amazon or maybe Hulu or some other channel idk if I'd hold out hope though
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 13 May 2018 14:55:18 EST ID:W6e8Eu+J No.398030 Report Quick Reply
If Hannibal didn’t get picked up by any of them, I doubt The Expanse will either.
Punch Sideiron - Sun, 13 May 2018 15:32:13 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I'm not expecting it to happen. It's a shame. Potential suitors are mostly gonna look at ratings numbers and probably audience engagement, which The Expanse has the second one in spades compared to it's numbers, but the numbers are poor. In an other universe the show was originally picked up by Netflix and gets massive numbers and 7 seasons.
Russel Crowe - Mon, 14 May 2018 03:15:42 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rumor has is that Alcon Entertainment has a meeting with Amazon this coming week. It's slim, but there's still a chance it'll be saved!
Charlton Heston - Mon, 14 May 2018 15:54:30 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know The Expanse has had deals with them in the past and I think they still have The Expanse on Amazon, so maybe there's some hope there.

Currently someone is raising funds to have a plane fly a banner reading #SaveTheExpanse outside Amazon Studios.

Dr. Zaius - Mon, 14 May 2018 21:33:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Btw they met their goal in only 4 or 5 hours, the banner will be flying near Amazon Studios for 4 hours tomorrow. Really cool tactic, I applaud the person who thought of this.
George Costanza - Mon, 14 May 2018 23:03:26 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.398085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Amazing the activism people are capable of when it comes to indulging in mindless entertainment. If only they cared about real matters...
George Lucas - Tue, 15 May 2018 00:09:29 EST ID:vx99qAYk No.398088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, you actually get something tangible at the end of it.
Chief Galen Tyrol - Tue, 15 May 2018 05:34:31 EST ID:ing6pL8V No.398093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pilitics is stupid and pointless, fuck off and lick my hairy asshole
Flink - Tue, 15 May 2018 22:06:40 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.398119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Remains to be seen

Politics =/= activism

Every freedom you enjoy today is a result of people getting together to change things. This has nothing to do with fake "politics" or simulated democracy. You're both perfect examples of why the world is much shittier than it should be

Anyways it was just an observation so no need to turn this into a shitwar nb
Theoden - Wed, 16 May 2018 06:23:06 EST ID:ing6pL8V No.398136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No you're a faggot for trying to guilt trip because someone cares about a show coming back. Stfu with your dumb grandstanding and kys.
Balalaika - Thu, 17 May 2018 00:46:21 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tonight's episode was great. Amos being a total badass! Looks like next episode may include more of Book 5 with Naomi dealing with the OPA and *possibly* Marcos & her son.

Loved the inclusion of the ring finally taking off from Venus.

In other news, SyFy is reconsidering their cancellation of the show based on the massive fan outreach.
Balalaika - Thu, 17 May 2018 01:18:50 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bobbie showing some skin tonight too. T H I C C
Major Alan Schaefer - Thu, 17 May 2018 05:44:06 EST ID:g0/Ozu98 No.398181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>SyFy is reconsidering their cancellation of the show based on the massive fan outreach.
But only if the ratings go up with every episode for the season. So good fucking luck.
Tom Green - Thu, 17 May 2018 07:03:22 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Expanse is available on like 4 different platforms. All people have to do is stop watching it other places and watch it live and their ratings will go way up. It's not that farfetched.
Gyp Rosseti - Thu, 17 May 2018 08:03:43 EST ID:Vc/DYp4j No.398189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The thing is, Syfy has been such a steaming turd that insulted my intelligence (And only really for a couple of years).
But the consequence is that I no longer actually have a way to contribute to their ratings.
Michonne - Thu, 17 May 2018 08:36:55 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.398191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the old money's last grasp at control, just torrent it.
Tom Green - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:26:21 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On principle alone I want to do this, but I also want the show to succeed. It's a battle going on in my heart and I really wish Amazon would pick it up so I can watch it without internal conflict. Syfy fucking SUCKS
Natsu Dragneel - Thu, 17 May 2018 13:37:59 EST ID:yYk6rgJq No.398201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well this show's finally doing cool shit again.
Tom Green - Thu, 17 May 2018 14:54:40 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah that episode was probably top 3 of series.
It was just in a kinda slow spot trying to set stuff up for what will be a hell of a ride probably through the rest of the season. I'm really excited to see the way that they take it.

The part where Alex and Naomi stormed the UNN ship was kinda lame but it was cool to have Cotyar martyr himself like that. But yeah I only say it was lame because in the books Holden ran through the whole ship dodging vomit zombies to try to get to the command deck and get the codes and blow it up himself. It was a bit more climactic. And Amos, Prax and Bobbie went down to the surface. Amos's line "I am that guy" was direct from the book and I was practically jumping up and down waiting for him to say the thing. I was so happy when he did .
Errinwright going to prison for treason was an excellent twist. That is deeply satisfying, though I was kinda blown away when the president thanked Anna for shifting the blame away from him. I didn't see that coming at all. Dude's a snake pretending to be stupid.
Also, they could not have more perfectly casted Anna. She's beautiful and has all the exact same sensibilities and even looks exactly the same as she was portrayed in the book. It makes me wonder if James SA Corey modeled Anna based on her character form Lost.
Tommen Baratheon - Fri, 18 May 2018 06:31:28 EST ID:bPOqFbTO No.398229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ratings stayed exactly the same this week, even with Syfy saying they'd uncancel if more people watched
Jane Fonda - Fri, 18 May 2018 07:54:47 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They were up 10% from last week but still not as much of an improvement as it probably needs. I tried to watch it on cable and literally 2 minutes into the episode my fucking cable went out. I'm sure I"m not the only person who is tired of cable. I really hope Syfy doesn't pick it up because they'l inevitably ruin it anyways. Honestly at this point I'd rather take the chance with some other avenue.
Farrah Fawcett - Fri, 18 May 2018 09:13:19 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.398232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cable ratings have been non-representative for a long time now. It was relevant during the 90s when TV was the only way to watch stuff.
If they were woke they'd look at number of snatches on popular torrent sites. Yeah, they don't earn anything for that, to their own fault.

The TV infrastructure is still in the past, amazon prime & Netflix don't provide the same shows to audiences around the world.

If they'd do something innovative they'd make a commercial torrent tracker with all their shows, a video podcast that lets you download a drm free mp4 file, etc...
It's not like 99.9% of their audience knows how to watch their shows using torrents without giving them a nickel....

Anyway I really hope the studio does a kickstarter for season 4, just to spite the syfy exec dinosaurs.
Jane Fonda - Fri, 18 May 2018 11:50:01 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you know that the Nielsen sample size is 5,000 lmao
Joan Crawford - Fri, 18 May 2018 13:01:00 EST ID:4PYKAkjr No.398238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nielsen's are so last century.
SyFy (Gawd I hate that name...) needs to fucking get some better executives running things. I have no idea who they have now, but they suck.
Jason Voorhees - Mon, 21 May 2018 20:06:05 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Amazon is in talks with Alcon about The Expanse. Nothing official but the fact that they're being public about it definitely says something. Also, I hear that Bezos is a fan of the books and the show.
Robert Pattinson - Tue, 22 May 2018 02:32:45 EST ID:x7Mc3Mwx No.398367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bezos steps in and saves The Expanse
>Trump starts tweeting his hatred of The Expanse and demands Jeff Sessions to look into it's immediate cancellation
Sidney Lumet - Tue, 22 May 2018 05:52:20 EST ID:bPOqFbTO No.398369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>when ppl are so obsessed with Trump it leaks into The Expanse thread
Jason Voorhees - Tue, 22 May 2018 08:13:46 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dawg it's a joke, trump was recently trying to rail Amazon because he's retarded.
Smaug the Golden - Wed, 23 May 2018 22:11:44 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy shit!!!

Grand episode tonight. Strong opening and an even stronger ending. Maneo hitting the slow zone looked amazing! I audibly cursed out loud when I saw it.

After last week's episode and especially this one, SyFy are total idiots.
Freddy Kruger - Wed, 23 May 2018 23:31:57 EST ID:6ohUQ9eK No.398420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck Westworld's olde pop music.

Belter music covers are where it's at.
Smaug the Golden - Wed, 23 May 2018 23:47:48 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That langbelta version of Highway Star was perfect.
William Hartnell - Thu, 24 May 2018 12:07:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow I feel like such an asshole for criticizing a meh episode 2 weeks ago seeing how fucking good it's getting.

The whole jump to book 3 kinda took me by surprised. For a second I was second guessing if I missed an episode or something, even though I know there's no way I would. I just hope people who aren't familiar with the books don't get lost here because they just kinda totally shifted gears without much exposition.

I'm diggin the actor that is playing Melba. Everything seems to have fallen into place really well. The way they put Naomi on the Behemoth is an interesting change and I like it. It actually makes more sense than to switch to Drummer's perspective, I think. Plus putting those two together as a duo is awesome. This scot guy is gonna be interesting. I can already tell where this is going.

I'm guessing they're aiming to finish book 3 by the end of the season which I think is actually a really good idea because there's no way they'd be able to stretch that book out to even a full season and make it stay interesting. God I hope they manage to get picked up by Amazon because book 4 is where shit really gets weird.
David Cronenberg - Thu, 24 May 2018 12:46:35 EST ID:4PYKAkjr No.398445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good news, Amazon is picking up the show for a fourth season.
Frank Miller - Fri, 25 May 2018 18:22:35 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.398496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They are talking, don't jinx it saying they pick it up for a fact when it's still all but certain.
Jodene Sparks - Sat, 26 May 2018 04:50:54 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nah, it's official now.

Leela - Sat, 26 May 2018 16:37:49 EST ID:xV7TiloH No.398541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was probably gonna get picked up because it fills a hole in their programming line up and provides a solid competitor to Altered Carbon.

But it turns out Jeff Bezos is a fanboy and intervened to seal the deal personally. lol.
Geoffrey Rush - Sat, 26 May 2018 20:07:35 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh I didn't realize that I just linked the same video. Cas Anvar looks like a G in a suit nb.
Charlton Heston - Sat, 26 May 2018 22:36:44 EST ID:k7W4AVEw No.398556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The ironic thing is that this show might be way more successful now thanks to the fans making sure this whole ordeal spread all over the internet. SyFy could have used this as a marketing stunt if they hadn't sold it. They have got to be the dumbest TV company of all time
Brad Pitt - Sun, 27 May 2018 22:52:31 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
theyve probably got someboy 70+ pulling the strings
and he used to make good calls back in the day before the alzheimers so theyve created a system of absolute power and blind obedience

the ceo takes the blame for this wealthy investors erroneous ways but you can retire if you hang on for a one or two years and everyone leaves happy
(well everyone leaves miserable but a few people are quite a bit wealthier and one decrepit old turd of a human being gets to feel powerful for a fleeting moment)
Gob Bluth - Sun, 27 May 2018 23:50:43 EST ID:vx99qAYk No.398591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>theyve probably got someboy 70+ pulling the strings

I remember someone from the 60s music scene, can't remember who exactly, saying that the old farts made good decisions every once in a while, because they would just throw money at whoever looked young and like they knew what they were doing.

When the old farts left and were replaced by young hip dudes who thought they themselves were the cool ones, they started micromanaging and everything went to shit.
Malin Åkerman - Mon, 28 May 2018 00:23:46 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Like Les Moonves with his bright ideas involving CBS All Access and Discovery lol.
Phil Ken Sebben - Mon, 28 May 2018 07:05:10 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.398602 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It was Zappa.

Brad Pitt - Mon, 28 May 2018 15:22:16 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cool because that is the exact opposite of what i or anyone i have known has experienced
people with feelings of entitlement to power and authority tend to run a little long in the tooth and these are going to be the motives for micro/mismanagment

understandable seeing as most of the world has a culture of respecting the elderly mistakenly believing that age is equivalent to experience
(a lot of the younger generation seem to feel if you havent learned anything in 90 years youre a joke rather than a hero but..... hey to each his own)
Miranda Otto - Tue, 29 May 2018 07:14:38 EST ID:vx99qAYk No.398626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He was my second guess.
Ralph Fiennes - Wed, 30 May 2018 22:20:37 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That episode was intense.

Shit is about to seriously get real. I love the pacing they're going with. When so many other shows are drawing shit out, this show is going all in and really respecting your time unlike some other shows (TWD I'm looking at you).
Hans Moleman - Thu, 31 May 2018 00:29:12 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.398726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These episodes keep getting better and better.
Rufus - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 03:22:36 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.399031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those flashback scenes were great. Mao got no chill
Err - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:47:10 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I want a threesome with Clarissa and Pastor Anna
Ignignokt - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:34:53 EST ID:3ICf8Xer No.399072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bobbie is going to do the thing.
Err - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:56:05 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Michael Scott - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 20:58:34 EST ID:GDbPIJfg No.399090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The blind guy annoys me. I thought I was going to hate Amos at first but he really is pretty good character-wise.
Dante Hicks - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 22:24:23 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It will be interesting to see what happens after they get back to the (assuming) Martian ship. If they were smart, they would have sent them back with that chip that he put into the ship that had the haxx on it. That would be good evidence.
Eomer - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 01:14:07 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.399105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah but they dont know who is trying to screw them yet probably better to just create an image of whatever data is on it and broadcast as far and wide as you can..... ooup no signals reach outside the ring though
probably best to hang onto it for the time being
nobody even knows they found it yet
Ed Tom Bell - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 01:42:51 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.399111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How can they broadcast when their communications are down?
Eomer - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:10:11 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.399127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lots and lots of hand written letters dumped out the air lock hahaha really though im sure they have or can quickly make a radio....nothing remotely close to what they normally use but something
Eomer - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:14:22 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.399128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but yeah you cant send a metric fuckton of information like that either
Louisse Belcher - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:45:48 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.399326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Slow build to an intense final five minutes tonight. They're condensing stuff from Book 3 but it works in favor for the show. Otherwise we'd be stuck with a Walking Dead s2 slog. It's fun to see more Bobbie so soon. If they were following the books we wouldn't see her until season 5 or 6. Anyway the scenes in the ring center were nuts! First we get Bobbie's dickhead superior getting the full Arborghast treatment with him getting recycled into spackle. Then we get his grenade making the Slow Zone even slower, followed up by Holden going full Everchild from 2001: A Space Odyssey and seeing forever.

I've gotta say that I really enjoy how they're retooling/condensing/shifting plot from the books. Have encountered a problem I've never had before though. I think I'm going full waifu-mode for Bobbie.
Number One - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 19:29:58 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah, somehow The Expanse manages to change up a lot to make it work in the show format yet they don't seem to screw up anything at all. Goes to show that the showrunner has really got respect for the source material, and I'm pretty sure the Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck are working with him a lot on how to adapt material. If I remember correctly from listening to the podcasts, they consulted one or both of them on a lot of the casting decisions so I'm sure they consult them on the plot changes and displacements as well. That reminds me, I've got some catching up to do on the podcasts. By the way, the podcast is called The Churn, highly recommend. On every one they've got at least 1 or 2 cast members or producers and I think every one I've listened to had Daniel Abraham and/or Ty Franck.

One thing I was thinking about when I was watching the latest episode is that it doesn't really make sense for the interior or the drum on the Behemoth to be open. I know that in the book they explained it by saying that the Mormons wanted to be able to see for a long distance so that it can somewhat feel like Earth when you've got that big emptiness above you, and I know that they were designed the place to be opulent, but that is a tremendous waste of air. Spreading it out over such a huge distance would make the air super thin. It would make 100x more sense to have it layered where you'd get more coriolis closer to the center, kinda like an asteroid station. But yeah, the book still explains that as they wanted the view, but it really doesn't make logistical sense at all I think. Not that it even matters.

I'm pretty stoked for this week's episode. It sucks that we won't get to see Bull's heroism. I'm very curious how they will manage to work Drummer into that role.

And yeah, I feel you on Bobbie as waifu. She is 9/10 gorgeous. But I think that Drummer is my beltfu. If you ever watch interviews and appearances with the cast, Cara Gee is pretty much always there and is always so clearly enthusiastic and excited about being a part of the show. It's so cute and endearing.
Dr. Hank McCoy - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:12:51 EST ID:AzqT764k No.399665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We wanted another BSG, we got The Expanse. It wasn't good enough.
Dr. Hank McCoy - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:14:50 EST ID:AzqT764k No.399666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And fuck your waifus. Get your ass licked.
Wikus van de Merwe - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:14:51 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why would anyone want to go through that again?
Dr. Hank McCoy - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:18:17 EST ID:AzqT764k No.399668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why not? Pleasure and pain it's all the same.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:08:42 EST ID:hZo8DmVs No.399671 Report Quick Reply
Look, I may be behind on The Expanse haven’t watched since season 2 episode 5 when Miller died but overall I think it’s better because you gotta remember how bad BSG got in season 3 and 4, although some of that was Syfy’s fault, but man the writing just declined and shit.
Barbara Wright - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:29:38 EST ID:GDbPIJfg No.399673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>We wanted

I never even wanted another BSG after the original season from the 70s.
Lynda Carter - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 23:48:43 EST ID:coLWyDOs No.399731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What a finale.

It's a little condensed compared to the book, but it handled everything well. That final scene gave me goosebumps. If the show had been cancelled it would have been bittersweet. Instead the show is finally living up to its name.
Dr. Sam Beckett - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:30:16 EST ID:7f415ttP No.399741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Agreed, it would've been a satisfactory send-off even if it didnt get renewed but thank God it did, can't wait to see how Amazon handles the next season
La Boeuf - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 17:54:31 EST ID:rXeJPwFk No.399754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not to mention it can finally be watched legally outside the US. I suspect syfy execs will want to punch themselves in the nuts when the real numbers are out and they looked Nielsen ratings.
Genophyte - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 20:57:36 EST ID:A5NgUz28 No.399762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't waifu, but draper in ep 12,13 ....
King Kong - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:03:58 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.399764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dude nielsen ratings are as they always have been a good metric for determining viewership
fact is the expanse just isnt a very good show and has very few people watching as a result hell i dont even know what it is this is the first im even hearing about it
sci fi should focus on movies about large animal monsters fighting eachother, aliens, and ghost investigations

amazon is just a naive startup with little business sense
wait until they realize they just bought an unmarketable money pit

those amazon bastards dont know how much they just helped syfy lololol
John Carter - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 23:05:44 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The fact is that this show I've never heard of or watched is just a shitty show and Nielsen is a great metric
Trent Lane - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 05:42:13 EST ID:IGClfu5B No.399768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
...Is that a fucking onahole?
John Carter - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 06:10:56 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I loved the finale but Ashford's waffling in the finale was the single complaint that I had. He was perfectly reasonable and respectable one second then totally reckless and despotic the next. I guess that's just the result of him having to take on aspects of a few different characters. I won't presume to know better than the writers, but I think they should have just made him incompetent and borderline crazy like in the book.

Regardless, that was immensely satisfying. Especially so knowing that we're going through one of those gates to a new system next season with Amazon.

Robo Drummer was great and I was really happy that they were only tricking me out by making me think that she was about to take Bull's way out. I also got the feeling that they were going to kill off Melba as a martyr but I'm really glad they didn't do that as well. I'm really intrigued to see her character development.

Tbh I'm glad we won't have to listen to Naomi talk in full on belter drawl anymore lol. Not that it wasn't good, she pulls it off great, but it's just weird and still off putting.

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