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Westworld season 2 by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:13:57 EST ID:bzqQ2Fa1 No.396956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Live without limits in a world where every human appetite can be indulged. This dark odyssey follows the dawn of artificial consciousness and the evolution of sin.

The season premieres tonight at 9pm EDT on HBO
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George Costanza - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:32:42 EST ID:LLtYFXWY No.396959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>This dark odyssey follows the dawn of artificial consciousness

maybe

or maybe YOU'RE the artificial consciousness

wooooooOOOOoooOOooooooo~
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Balalaika - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:33:54 EST ID:sGW+CuNo No.396962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heard good things about the premier. Can't wait to watch it in several months when I don't have to wait for HBO's dinosaur piecemeal release bullshit.
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Cary Grant - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:37:53 EST ID:3zpabiup No.396963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is there any place to stream this? I don't really wanna torrent it.
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Slate Slabrock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:48:39 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.396964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396963
Here you go
https://mega.nz/#!JsoyFZzC!hlOlpOcSvRyXagQIL4uDFnQfvSRkYhzufw1lhhIbBFM
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Slate Slabrock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:51:22 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.396966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396962
I actually prefer the traditional once a week format compared to the new trend of dumping everything at once. It gives you time to digest and discuss the episode and get excited for the next one. It also helps spread things out especially if you watch several new shows airing at similar times.

I often find that when I grab whole packs that I actually put off watching them a lot longer than I do with a single new episode.

NB double post
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Hank Venture - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 22:17:24 EST ID:oAO0JgMv No.396971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396964

thanks dude
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Slate Slabrock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:01:24 EST ID:AbGdlWj0 No.396972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396971
No problem. I have a huge media server with pretty much every new release and a ton of older/hard to find stuff so if anyone wants anything fell free to hit me up anytime.
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Cary Grant - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 00:32:23 EST ID:3zpabiup No.396974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
blehk they really cranked up the cheese in this season. Deloris is being revealed to be a bad actress with her new character. I still enjoy the concept so I will definitely keep watching.
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Trinity - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:22:27 EST ID:MIxWlzYo No.396991 Report Quick Reply
http://ew.com/tv/2018/04/23/westworld-season-2-premiere-ratings/
ratings down. Thank god, this show personally annoys me and I find it a shitty direction for HBO to be going. I want this cancelled this year and HBO to radically rethink their shitty post-Game Of Thrones gameplan.
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Lando Calrissian - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:41:59 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.396996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396991
Doubtful but I won't tell you to stop dreaming.
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Rectangular Businessman - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:20:53 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really like this show. Odd to see people hate it so much to want it to be cancelled.
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Rufus - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:22:24 EST ID:H8wdw5bt No.397006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397000
welcome to the internet
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:40:47 EST ID:CwpsmMFL No.397007 Report Quick Reply
It was a good premiere. I’m assuming that the scenes with Bernard with Charlotte are in the past in the aftermath of the massacre and the ones with him with Strand are in the present since they came upon the hosts in the lake after Bernard activated the beacon that located Peter Abernathy. But when he checked up on himself, it said he had 72 hours to live but I guess maybe that brain fluid will keep him going and why he’s still alive in the present.

My friend and I were questioning though what Dolores’ motive is. Hosts taking over the world? I understand her character development in season 1 given her connection with Ford and Arnold (through Bernard) and what she went through in but I think it’s hard to become emotionally invested in a character without seeing how she got from point A of killing Ford fo point B of leaving people to be hung. I really love this show’s soundtrack and aesthetic though.

>>396991
Down from last season’s finale but up from the series premiere but once you account for DVR and HBO Now/Go viewership, it’s gonna be way more.
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Orson Welles - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:27:33 EST ID:IfwbKvx3 No.397029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397000
Normally, I wouldn't be the type to shit all over some show just because I saw a few episodes and hated them. This one riles me more because of having been loyal to the HBO brand for so long that I get worried that they are flushing all their cred down the drain, moving away from realistic shit like Wire and Sopranos for genre crap. Even early Game Of Thrones felt like HBO quality entertainment, like Deadwood in a Lord Of The Rings-ish world, but once they ran out of books to adapt, it descended into Showtime-tier garbage. HBO, I have been loyaly pirating your shows for my whole life? Don't I get some say in the direction you take for the shows I will steal in the future?

Also, one of the Nolan cunts is showrunner. I thought we hated those fucks here.
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Lando Calrissian - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:29:30 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397029
They're not really flushing their cred down the drain by making hit sci fi and fantasy shows.
It's not like they're bandwagoning. They created a trend with Game of Thrones and with Westworld they're seizing on a gap in the market with very few decent sci fi shows being around nowadays. It's just smart business really. And especially savvy with Game of Thrones even though they sadly didn't plan ahead and get good enough writers for when the source material ran out...
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Princess Leia Organa - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:45:01 EST ID:Yj1BtbGs No.397034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397029
Westfield has way better writing than late Game of Thrones. It all fits together like a puzzle.
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Norville Barnes - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:42:40 EST ID:2cJqiCy4 No.397043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397032

>even though they sadly didn't plan ahead and get good enough writers for when the source material ran out

The fifth and most recent book, A Dance of Dragons, came out literally the same month that the first season of the show premiered, and GRRM was already "working" on the Winds of Winter at that point. That is 5 years GRRM had to get the Winds of Winter out before the show would reach that point in the series. It is really not HBOs fault that GRRM has not been able to put out anything in almost 8 years, and it is not something anyone could really have planned for.
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Chandler Bing - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:53:35 EST ID:SkvT2fIW No.397044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397007
Wyatt's program took over Dolores' consciousness. Arnold put it in her. Wyatt is some kind megalomanic. I think a main plot line this season is going to be the Dolores program struggling with the Wyatt program. This is like how someone with new consciousness discovers their morality. At first, you don't know good from evil. Killing people is like killing ants to Wyatt, but we'll probably see the Dolores program struggle to regain control, and thus we have good vs evil.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:46:33 EST ID:bzqQ2Fa1 No.397048 Report Quick Reply
>>397044
oh yeah that’s right, it’s why that one scene it showed her instead of Wyatt after she had killed all those people as part of his narrative in season 1. That does make more sense that Wyatt is taking over her consciousness and she’s doing things that he would do. Perhaps the timeline with Arnold in the distant past give a better understanding of that struggle of consciousnesses.
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Flink - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:55:50 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397043
His book didn't need to be on shelves for them to make use of him. I'm sure he already knows what's going to happen, and it's likely that he gave some of that info to the showrunners though possibly telling them to take some things in other directions, don't know for sure though.

It is 100% HBO's fault that the quality dropped dramatically as soon as they couldn't get the dialogue to be decent after they no longer were able to copy and paste it directly. There is plenty of talent they could have hired but didn't.

>this is not something they could have planned for

Lol, after the book was delayed 3 or 4 times maybe the showrunners, if they weren't braindead, might have had a thought pop into their heads along the lines of "oh shit, maybe the books won't be out in time to copy directly, maybe we should get working on some scripts and decent plot so that we don't just have to shell out a bunch of dumb fanservicey bs at the last minute."

Idk, I probably would have had that thought. I give them credit for the adaptation, but as soon as they didn't have anything left to adapt it went straight down the drain, and it's absurd to blame that lack of artfulness on GRRM.
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Jorah Mormont - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:20:53 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397050

Actually GRRM DID give them plot points for the final two seasons. He actually stopped doing guest directors spots a while back as well. I think even HE has given up on the show.

They plan on doing a spin off after it is done based as a prequel. wew. That's what we want. More shitty scripts and suspension of disbelief. I new GoT went down the tubes when Arya was running away from the faceless men and getting stabbed in the gut only to be able to jump off of bridges and lure a girl into a dark room with a candle in it. That entire episode kills me. GRRM would never ever ever write something so stupid. It turned into an Avengers movie.
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Norville Barnes - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:20:18 EST ID:2cJqiCy4 No.397061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397054
>They plan on doing a spin off after it is done based as a prequel.

Honestly if they do like a Dunk and Egg series that could be really cool and very easy for HBO to make well and cheaply, since there are no huge battles. Every couple episodes Dunk and Egg travel to a new place, get involved in local goings on, and move on after things get resolved. Do a couple character arcs, have good action and adventure, throw in some Targaryen background intrigue with Bloodraven, and you have a really simple formula for a strong show that would be different enough from Game of Thrones to stand on its own feet, and fun enough for normies to dive right into.

But yeah if they try to do Big Bobby B's Rebellion Bash it will be an absolute disaster.
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:50:22 EST ID:U5DsaeYl No.397083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
West World is prophetic, and one of the most beautiful things I've seen come to television.
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Flink - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 14:47:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The new episode was really good, not really much else to say about it though. I hope they don't keep the theme of time jumps though. The novelty has kinda worn off now after the big reveal last season and I'm assuming they were just doing it for the season opener.

Also, I'm guessing the whole Samurai thing was mostly a promotion gimmick. They've mentioned that there are a bunch of different parks but it has only taken place in the Westworld park. I hope that they don't go to an other park because I think that would make it feel kinda cartoony, even if it was just a bunch of Samurai hosts escaping into Westworld.

I also wonder how they will do this season without their being any guests. I don't imagine they'll get this whole thing cleaned up very soon, it will be interesting with the entire plot just being the hosts seeking whatever they're seeking vs the employees.

It's really badass to see Floki [sp] from Vikings show up as the new security boss I assume. He's a really underrated actor and imo the best character from Vikings and it looks like he'll have a huge role to come.
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Oolong - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:50:11 EST ID:EDfoVDek No.397107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Westworld is bad
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Léon - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:15:44 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.397108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397107
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Ace - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:33:59 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Good premiere. Enough plotlines and new characters to bite into. All kinds of old characters following their own little agenda. Some good action scenes and tension here and there. And important to me, lovely gore and implied violence. The implication of an action scene in the past is just as good as the action scene itself. The scene in the control room with the dead bear carried an excellent vibe.

But much more important, it showed the shadowy underworld of Delos, and the nasty shit they run behind closed doors. Anyone who has seen FutureWorld (sequel to the Westworld movie) knows what I'm talking about. I doubt season 2 will follow FutureWorld to a tee, but it will certainly connect into it somewhere.

And we know there are at least 6 parks (WestWorld and ShogunWorld are confirmed; the movies by Crichton also featured RomanWorld, MedievalWorld and FutureWorld), and that the Delos Parks are somewhere in Asia - probably off the coast of China.
Also, we're probably 5 minutes into the future, because you can see some kind of advanced low-radar-profile amphibious landing catamaran in the distance. Technology will have to advance quite a bit for those kinds of ships to become viable for corporations/PMC's instead of just governments.
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Ace - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:37:56 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397112
Forgot to mention, that still means we're missing one -World.
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Morena Baccarin - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:39:48 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397112

Oh please let there be Canada World!
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Ace - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:01:19 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397119
I think the last world is probably about some Asian country that isn't Japan. Since we saw a tiger and well, there are no tigers in Japan.
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Claudia Black - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:32:55 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.397128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397126

I'm betting it's MaharajaWorld since I remember him saying it was a bengal tiger.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:46:29 EST ID:VelLV/T2 No.397129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397128
More like ModernDayMaharajaWorld.
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Morena Baccarin - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:04:24 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397129

lol.
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Flash Gordon - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:02:48 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also, the scene where that Vikings dude tells some Marines to sign an NDA and get the fuck off the island... Chinese uniforms.

Seems Westworld is off the Chinese coast somewhere.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 26-04-2018 22:51:46
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Saint-Exmin - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:49:30 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397164
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why would they make a cowboy playground off the coast of East Asia? I suppose it's possible they're doing both but it would make a lot more sense to have a Battle Royale island where you can murder and fuck Japanese teenagers in their school uniforms. They'd go mad for it. It would be way more profitable than an arena for cowboys and Indians right on the other side of the world from the people who'd care about that. None of these problems with maintaining persistent populated settlements either.
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Hal 9000 - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:22:12 EST ID:5mOxc/oC No.397206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397205
Because it's all artificial land. It's based on a site where they're currently building an artificial island off the coast of China.

It's not just Westworld. There are six parks in this place. There's Shogunworld and apparently a whole episode dedicated to it coming right next to it and presumably 4 other equally diverse settings because the bengal tiger didn't come from either of those.
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Saint-Exmin - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:04:23 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397206
That's not a 'because' that's just some related but not pertinent to the question information.
Such a large playground is an extremely ineffectual use of land, especially if it's artificial land. It would make far more sense to have a sort of VR-holodeck combination thing while generating just as much money, or to have smaller, easily reset-able arenas, this would generate a higher profit at a lower cost of upkeep. Also if you can make beings that are accidentally a bit more sentient than you wanted then you can make AI too and there's the whole singularity to contend with.
The longer this show goes on the less sense it makes because they have to make decisions on how to present the reality they live in and they don't make sense.
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Wayne Skylar - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:48:41 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.397213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397209
Money is clearly no object for creators nor patrons of these worlds. Also East Asian venerate the West. I thought this was common knowledge. That's why you can still get hired to "make a company look better" by merely being white, male, and tall.
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Flash Gordon - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:56:57 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397209
I imagine that in Westworld's world, most normal people experience their fantasies in VR. But the rich... the rich don't want VR. They spend half a million dollars to live out their fantasies.

Of course, it's pretty clear that Delos doesn't make it's money with the park. The park is just a means to an end. Getting their hands on the DNA and thoughts of the guests.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 27-04-2018 20:31:10
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Hal 9000 - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:36:46 EST ID:5mOxc/oC No.397218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397164
lol "the vikings dude"
As if he's not tied for second best actor of the Skarsgard clan.

Third most famous of the skarsgards though. But by that metric Alexander Skarsgard surpassed Stellan Skarsgard years ago, so that's some fucking bullshit.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 20:30:35 EST ID:Z5y+j84V No.397222 Report Quick Reply
>>397218
Yeah Alexander was really fucking good (and intimidating) on Big Little Lies last season.
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Tom Hanks - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:14:08 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397216
C-Higgy is it really a spoiler when it's already a plot point from a movie from 1976?

>>397218
I don't watch Vikings so I just called him "the vikings dude".
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John Hughes - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 08:29:36 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397209

You're right in the way that the show doesn't make sense but it didn't make sense from episode one. It's sci fi and you kind of have to stretch your imagination a bit. If you want to see someone pick this show apart while still enjoying it watch this youtube channel.

https://youtu.be/uoJ8r5t48jA

There are loads of mistakes in season one and he already has pointed out shit in season 2. But in multiple videos he says how much he loves the show. It's entertaining and it's a fun world. We need more high quality sci-fi shows.

Also a government would have shut down this entire park by now. There would be no waiting around for shit. The show wouldn't be a fun show then though. It would just be over.
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Tom Hanks - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 09:55:49 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397209
>Also if you can make beings that are accidentally a bit more sentient than you wanted then you can make AI too and there's the whole singularity to contend with.

Pretty sure WestWorld works on the concept of the learning AI (AI that isn't programmed but "evolves" by learning from mistakes and creating its own code based on those previous mistakes), and implies that Robert and Arnold were so ahead of the curve (mainly Arnold) that they were the first to develop artificial sapience.
I will say, perhaps there are AI's out there in the world of WestWorld. We don't know anything outside WestWorld. Perhaps they'll go for the idea that an AI inside a humanoid body will radically alter it's way of thinking compared to an AI in a "box". There's some talk among philosophers and cognitive scientists about that; the idea that your intelligence isn't just dependent on your brain, but also on your body, because your body determines the "shape" of your brain processes - after all, your brain must move your body. We can imagine that an AI inside a computer could have drives that are so alien to human life that they never were seen as a threat. Meanwhile, the hosts, AI in humanoid bodies (that are far sturdier, smarter and faster than humans) would really go for that ubermensch aesthetic.

I know there's a theory floating around that WestWorld and the world outside WestWorld is all just a simulation of some AI or post-human machine race designed to recreate its own creation history based on little snippets of archeological evidence.
Of course, when you get into simulation shit, things can get REALLY FUCKING WEIRD really fast. Like that Oblivion film with Tom Cruise. I expected a dumb fucking scifi movie with beautiful landscape porn. I didn't expect that goddamn plot twist with the fucked up implications (kudos to the makers for fully embracing the baggage of you-know-what instead of just burying the full weight of it).

Personally, if I had to put my money on something, I'd say it's all parks. All the way down. And all the way up. Just parks inside parks inside parks inside parks. Like some fucked up fractal von-neuman probe gone full berserker-bot BLAME! dyson sphere solar system deconstructor that just started building amusement parks out of everything.
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Amanda Tapping - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:09:11 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397232
>Personally, if I had to put my money on something, I'd say it's all parks. All the way down. And all the way up. Just parks inside parks inside parks inside parks. Like some fucked up fractal von-neuman probe gone full berserker-bot BLAME! dyson sphere solar system deconstructor that just started building amusement parks out of everything.
There's no way they're going to do that but it would be pretty great.
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Dr. Quentin Q. Quinn - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 23:22:18 EST ID:wgKs6dXp No.397243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397233
I agree with him. They'll probably never come out and say it but they'll leave the door open on it forever because that existential recursion thing is really the point of the show.

That or in the final episode we find out that the fifth park is "current_year land" and the final shot is the camera slowly zooming out of your television and panning over your own face.
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Louisse Belcher - Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:48:24 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397243

lol
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T'Pol - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:18:01 EST ID:uOK0/nrV No.397312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dolores is so goddamn pretty it hurts
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Sofia Coppola - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 08:48:21 EST ID:u+SQmS1M No.397314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397312
Really? I think she's kinda plain looking (which is sorta the point of her character within the park).
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Nancy Botwin - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:03:18 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm really not liking this episode so far. Why does Laurence just go along with the man in black? Why would Teddy even know what the fuck is going on by looking at a few photos of himself dead? Why wouldn't the rest of Dolores' crew be just as shocked as Teddy was? Everyone should of been shitting their pants.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 30-04-2018 12:54:21
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Nancy Botwin - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 12:03:45 EST ID:3zpabiup No.397317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397316

shit sorry. Could someone spoiler tag that.
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Gustavo Fring - Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:09:33 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So from the Host's POV Dolores is basically some sort of badass necromancer witch. That's fucking cool but also wouldn't their first instinct be to try and burn her at the stake instead of just going along with what she says like it's not something that would sound like raving lunacy?
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Noranti Pralatong - Tue, 01 May 2018 13:59:11 EST ID:RNoOTJrn No.397363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397320
I think Dolores has the same power as the black lady. She can control the robots. Thr Madam knows she knows how to do it though, I think Dolores is still ignorant of exactly what she is, so she's doing it, but through intuition, instead of pragmatic logic.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 01-05-2018 15:17:26
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Gene Wilder - Tue, 01 May 2018 18:21:02 EST ID:Pz1/2Nkn No.397372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397362
The sword could lose its edge or something. Like a prop knife but sciency. It's possible in AI future land with science.
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William Shakespeare - Tue, 01 May 2018 21:26:39 EST ID:hSM74+Sp No.397377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397362
Yeah, lots of people gonna get poked and smacked with blunt metal.

Anyway I think that's why Westworld was the first park. Just consider the host maintenance costs. Bullet holes are cheaper than huge slashing wounds.

But I agree. The sandbox is fundamentally worse if the hosts have to restrain themselves in combat to keep from breaking your skull. At least gunfights would hold the illusion better until the point where you get shot and don't take the bullet.
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Randy Bobandy - Tue, 01 May 2018 21:51:24 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.397378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397362
Just as Bernard was programmed not to be capable of shooting Hannibal, the samurai could be programmed to lose sword-fights against hosts.
Additionally the swords could be designed to dull themselves if swung against a host, and armor could be designed to better spread out blows when worn by a host.
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William Shakespeare - Tue, 01 May 2018 22:11:38 EST ID:hSM74+Sp No.397379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397378
Yeah but what about arrows? Actually the samurai's main weapon, and also a problem for Westworld.
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Randy Bobandy - Tue, 01 May 2018 22:41:35 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.397380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397379
Mechanical guidance steers arrows away from the guest's exposed body, and deforms the head so it couldn't actually penetrate the skin if it did hit.

But Westworld is a romanticized depiction of the wild west where meeting popular conceptions of the west is more important than historical realism, in Eastworld, the primary weapon of the samurai will be the katana.
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Al Pacino - Tue, 01 May 2018 23:10:47 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reminder, WestWorld has melee combat too. And I think it's implied ShogunWorld is still in development. Hence why some testing of samurai hosts was done in WestWorld, not ShogunWorld itself.
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Al Pacino - Tue, 01 May 2018 23:16:53 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397379
Also, as the title ShogunWorld implies... it's about the Shogun era. The Shogun era is famous for basically killing off the "way of the samurai", reducing the warring militarized noble families of Japan in clipped noble families that just fought duels all over the place.

This is the point where the spear and bow were forgotten, and the katana (a simple sidearm) became prominent.
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Wicked Witch of the West - Wed, 02 May 2018 04:50:58 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wouldn't shogunland require much more actual land than Westworld? Cowboys can wander around a small desert and fight each other but a shogunate is a whole little kingdom. To have more than a handful of factions warring you'd need a landmass almost as big as Japan.
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Tammy Tangerine - Wed, 02 May 2018 05:00:23 EST ID:RNoOTJrn No.397392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397391
Shogun Land will be a central hub, a town maybe, and on the outskirts of the north, east, south, and western edges, will be different factions. Guests will be able to chose their factions. The center hub will be neutral, and also have the most power. It will be the family friendly center. The farther out toward the edges you go, the more fucked it will get. Guests will get the chance to go up against other guests by each acting as generals, commanding troops, and entering battle if they wish but not necessarily.
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Wicked Witch of the West - Wed, 02 May 2018 08:03:24 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397392
It'll still feel really restrictive in comparison.
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Al Pacino - Wed, 02 May 2018 18:06:52 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397392
This. When the Shogun ruled Japan, he forced samurai families to spend time periods each year in either Tokyo or Kyoto. This caused friction between families with grudges (resulting in duels) and it cost the samurai families a lot of money to keep moving themselves and their servants around the country.
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Al Pacino - Wed, 02 May 2018 18:08:36 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397412
>in either Tokyo or Kyoto
I forgot which city it was, but it was the city where the Shogun was located. And where he had all his soldiers, assassins and spies. So basically he could spy on or kill whomever he wanted during those periods where samurai would stay in his court.
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Anne Lockhart - Mon, 07 May 2018 12:39:20 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.397674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope the actress who plays Deloris never gets another role in a major tv show or movie again unless she is playing a wimpy pacifist character. She is just awful as Wyatt. Takes me out of the show every single time she talks in that smokey voice trying to be a badass villian.
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Saruman - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:41:23 EST ID:PPBdRS2a No.397679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397674

lol, same exact shit has been said about Daenerys/Emilia Clarke. I'm beginning to think y'all just have a problem with strong, confident Blonde women... They should be seen, not heard, right? I think both actresses are wonderful.
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Theoden - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:42:33 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397679
Emilia Clarke's brunette.
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Saruman - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:45:10 EST ID:PPBdRS2a No.397681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397680

And she plays a Blonde in the show everyone watches 😱
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:49:59 EST ID:l7Q+NscE No.397682 Report Quick Reply
>>397674
I liked Evan Rachel Wood in The Wrestler. Also her character is a host so that’s why she acts the way she does.
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Ross Geller - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:56:15 EST ID:1LUlzS1I No.397684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397674
nah she's pretty great actually
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Theoden - Mon, 07 May 2018 14:57:40 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397681
Yeah but their problem is with the actresses.
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Anne Lockhart - Mon, 07 May 2018 15:07:49 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.397687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397679

Nah that's just silly. I just don't like the way she depicts this villain character. She just doesn't get the character to me. It comes off as "IM ACTING RIGHT NOW" and it kinda ruins it for me. The way she throws her voice and carries herself doesn't come off as strong and I think that might be the problem. She's playing a strong character but isn't doing a good job at showing herself as strong.

There are plenty of strong females in movies and tv for decades that do a great job so don't throw that PC shit in my face.
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Anne Lockhart - Mon, 07 May 2018 15:11:10 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.397688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397687

Now that being said I find the acting in the show is great otherwise. The father character does such a great job playing a glitched out host. I thought he did a great job in season 1 as well. Mauve does a great job. Bernard is wonderful.

The acting is fantastic honestly. It's just Evan Rachel Wood and not even all the time. Just as Wyatt. Whenever they do a flashback I find she plays her old character much much better.
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Frank "Grimey" Grimes - Tue, 08 May 2018 13:43:01 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.397724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397688
Yup, her robo acting is impressive IMO. The way she responds in the same tone and everything is really neat. Ya, it's just Wyatt ... with that said, it's real bad.

Also spoilers here but who's the badass Lady tagging along with Deloris/Wyatt. I mean who is that host, not really interested in their role. It's not the sexy I'm a robot, no I'm not, maybe I am lady from the flashbacks? I don't think it is though cause the show doesn't really let you peace things together without hitting you over the head with them. Speaking of badass ladies, when that one gal from Maev's posse pulled a "Gut's" I was hoping her replacement would be a little bit more badass and creative then just a robo arm. I thought she pulled an Ash Williams for a second and just straight up attached the flamethrower to her arm.
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Carrie Fisher - Tue, 08 May 2018 14:33:14 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
*seven nation army plays on a sitar*
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Carrie Fisher - Tue, 08 May 2018 15:26:37 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
E3 Right so they've shown how the hosts manage to not kill guests in gunfights they just sort of sting like a shitty pellet gun but that means for the hosts to not kill guests it's not a case of them deliberately missing but... what? They use bluetooth to switch the bullets to "safe mode"? Why didn't they just put squibs under the host's skin and make them easier to damage, have sensors in their bodies that explode when hit? How do you make a shotgun blast of pellets to the face "safe"? Why not put the safeguards in the guns themselves? Weren't the non-psycho hosts also unable to hurt guests with the guns they got from guards? This explanation raises far more questions about the safeguards on their weapons than it answers.
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Leeloo - Tue, 08 May 2018 19:08:09 EST ID:WmuofxLm No.397728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397727
They're advanced simunitions, prototypes already exist [0]. They're regular bullets that if aimed at an actual human will slow down so much that will only hurt like a pellet gun. Current prototypes don't work that way but they can change course after leaving the barrel.

[0] https://futurism.com/wanteds-curved-bullet-now-a-reality/
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Beetlejuice - Tue, 08 May 2018 19:09:26 EST ID:rlNQ1eiS No.397729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397727
there was quick comment about how the fake-munitions got turned off when the robots reblled, IRC the bullets are bullets with reactive casing or something that turns soft when it hits guests and solid when it hits hosts or something.
Have you ever noticed how they never specifically call the guests humannor mention humanity? I think everyone, guest and host, are robots, being watched by a third party for amusement
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Carrie Fisher - Tue, 08 May 2018 19:26:21 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397728
Why on earth would they make it possible for them to be deadly to guests then?
>hey guys let's make it so there's a switch on our toy guns that means they can kill real people it'll only be incredibly unreliable, expensive to design as well as manufacture and never intended for use!
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William Bell - Tue, 08 May 2018 20:16:57 EST ID:R4IZk99a No.397735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397731
They have to damage the hosts physically for bullet holes recoils etc so they must be able to damage guests innately as well when failsafes are off.
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Victor Creed - Tue, 08 May 2018 20:18:08 EST ID:KBfaSd45 No.397736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Westworld ratings continue to drop, hits series low
ouch
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Joe Swanson - Tue, 08 May 2018 21:16:41 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.397737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397736
Hopefully "East World" spices things up enough to spike ratings. Also "Trevor" from GTA was a lot of fun this week.
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Martin Bayfield - Tue, 08 May 2018 22:11:51 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.397740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397735
Squibs. Have stuff under the skin of the hosts that explodes on impact with the right sort of metal.
The bullets being able to slow themselves isn't a realistic solution. Not for close range, ricochet, shrapnel shotgun pellets or cannon fire. Or fucking TNT which they do use. The idea that the bullets have a magic off-button whose only possible use is something nobody would ever want is absurd.
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Cherry Darling - Tue, 08 May 2018 22:27:04 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397687
YOU FUCKING RETARD!

OF COURSE SHE'S ACTING. SHE'S ACTING THAT'S SHE'S ACTING!

She's not Wyat. She's Dolores who was merged with Wyat in an uncontrolled manner. It's an unfinished merge. It's supposed to be a wrong fit! YOU MONGOLOID!
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Amuro Ray - Wed, 09 May 2018 05:23:54 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.397750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397741
jesus fuck you really want me to enjoy her acting.
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Cherry Darling - Wed, 09 May 2018 15:20:15 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.397775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397750
I'm not telling you to like her acting.

Just telling you that her Wyat sounding and looking off is the entire point. She's not Wyat. She's Dolores, programmed to act like Wyat - who isn't even a fully-fleshed out narrative.
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Amuro Ray - Wed, 09 May 2018 17:43:25 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.397782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397775

I get that. I didn't say her acting was robotic. It's just not very good in my opinion.
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Hannah Spearritt - Wed, 09 May 2018 21:53:03 EST ID:t2oU7Cb6 No.397790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dolores's acting is great. The character is supposed to feel somewhat wooden-ish because she's essentially the corrupted Data of the series. Excluding her father, all the other ai characters have somewhat set personalities and motivations because their code is functioning, but hers is corrupted so she stands out as the most artificial wooden android.
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Tracy Jordan - Mon, 14 May 2018 00:57:38 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn episode 4 ruled. Really enjoyed the way they told the story.
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Kevin Smith - Mon, 14 May 2018 14:02:11 EST ID:rWRjXkS+ No.398065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398044
Episode 4 ruled. Why? Two reasons:
>no Dolores
>no Maeve
funny how that works
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Tracy Jordan - Mon, 14 May 2018 15:13:25 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398065
I was going to say that about Dolores but I feel like I bitched about her enough in this thread.

I enjoy Maeves character though.
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Splint Chesthair - Mon, 14 May 2018 18:14:21 EST ID:1LUlzS1I No.398071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah that was the best episode of the series so far
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James Quall - Tue, 15 May 2018 04:55:20 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.398092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The on-site security is hosts, right?
The hallucination was just memory corruption, and the WW-I tactic of marching in a line to gun/cannon fire are because it was quicker to send waves of expendable hosts to retrieve the valuable ones than use tactics?


It seems strange to use only a single test subject at at time and the real William for testing the Jims.
149 tests over 30 years is 2 months per test.
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Korben Dallas - Tue, 15 May 2018 19:43:05 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.398116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I thought the start was kind of slow but it definitely picked up. I'm just confused by this new guy. William's father in law, I just don't understand how or why he's that much different than Bernard in a significant way. Is Bernard not just essentially an immortal Arnold only some of the memories are fucked? Maybe I'm missing something major but I feel like they made this into a big deal/ twist when it's not anything that new. So is THIS what "THEY" are actually interested in or the memories of the guests.

Personally, If I was a mad scientist I'd be making real life Chimeras and shit. They have the technology...
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Woodhouse - Wed, 16 May 2018 01:28:23 EST ID:rlNQ1eiS No.398126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's robots all the way down, the hosts, the guests, the "real" characters (William, Ford, etc), all robits on a grand stage for entertainment by real humans or possibly more robots. The purpose of the experiment was to see if artificial intelligence given human proclivities would end up just like people. Some major points support this fact: "human" security forces rushing an armored fort (under gunned, but still armed and deadly) with no drones or advanced weaponry besides fucking dune buggies and P90s; "real" life, despite those idyllic shots of skylines (FutureWorld) and that one mansion, has not been shown; the distance roughly shown in the shot between IndiaWorld (or whatever) and WestWorld seems to be at least the size of the Hoover Dam, so the approximate size of all six parks would be essentially the size of a small US state, not impossible for people, but would take massive resources just so a few thousand multimillionaires could kill people for fun; its all the Matrix and the "real world"human businessmen want to get the tech for making artificial human intelligence so they make these Worlds to test shit on
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Genophyte - Wed, 16 May 2018 05:42:16 EST ID:ri96qASQ No.398135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398116
Full metal alchemist chimera feels... It will always be too soon
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Jaime Sommers - Wed, 16 May 2018 09:46:13 EST ID:TDNliMgG No.398144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398135
I feel ya man. Shittiest fucking episode in anime, but all to real.
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Tom Green - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:04:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't realize until this episode that the show has been sorely lacking lately in that Western feel. Great episode.

>>398116
I think it just served as more backstory for the Man in Black which also led up to the part with his daughter pretty well. There will surely be more about the other stuff as well, I'm expecting it to come full circle.
Now I"m just waiting for his backstory with Ford.
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John Candy - Thu, 17 May 2018 13:10:58 EST ID:4mesab6C No.398200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I watched the third episode and i'm a bit disappointed, it feels like "game of thrones WITH ROBOTS"

I'll see how it goes but if this keeps up i won't watch season 3

But to be fair i thought the ending of season 1 was a perfect ending to end a series, why do they always have to make so many seasons? A good story has agood ending damn it.
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Heisenberg - Thu, 17 May 2018 15:29:37 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398200
it IS game of thrones with robots
this is how G. R. R. Martin is planning on wrapping up the series

after the events of winds of winter bran loses control of his powers and the whole of westeros spirals wildly through time ending up caught between dimensions 115,000,000,000 years in the past which it turns out is the near future

Arnold was the last of the stark lineage and the only hope to save the world from the return of the night king but alas he died and was reborn....part man.....part machine.....

etc. etc. etc.
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Heisenberg - Thu, 17 May 2018 15:33:20 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
westeros---->westworld
i mean they dont even try to hide it
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Wesley Wyndam-Price - Thu, 17 May 2018 15:39:55 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.398207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398206
Seems weird that they don't have a Westerosworld. I mean, any sort of mythical fantasy setting with dragons and orcs would be more popular than cowboys.
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Tom Green - Thu, 17 May 2018 16:35:27 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398200
I don't see that at all really. How do you mean? Are you just saying that because it's dramatic and jumps between viewpoints?
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Natsu Dragneel - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:22:56 EST ID:yYk6rgJq No.398210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398208
It's the most frigging overhyped show on TV. By a lot.

And you can see why that is from how well season 1 was put together and unfolds. But there's an extremely good chance that it goes the way of Lost. It seems a lot like HBO's Lost.
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Linda Hamilton - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:03:01 EST ID:0xP31NFO No.398211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398207
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James Bond - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:39:48 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398210
Nah. Game Of Thrones is legit bad now. It has been bad for seasons now. Westworld is a fun show. It's a lot more entertaining. Also episode 3 is the only bad episode of season 2 so far.
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Bette Davis - Thu, 17 May 2018 21:52:55 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.398220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398200
This post is so retarded it gave me incurable brain cancer.

Put my brain in a cupcake and upload me into an amiibo...
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Waymond Womano - Fri, 18 May 2018 22:24:31 EST ID:wgqbQGCR No.398253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398216
Nah Game of Thrones had one legit bad season (5) but then recovered with one of their best (6). Season 7 isn't bad but it's not as good as should have been given what happened during it, not to mention how rushed it feels since they cut the episode count. But overall i wouldn't call it bad.

Westworld overhyped as fuck tho
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Rob Reiner - Sat, 19 May 2018 16:08:36 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398253
I'm not into watching Arya become Wolverine. There was so much head scratchingly stupid shit going on in Game Of Thrones since season five. It's still bad. People just want it to be good.

Westworld isn't overhyped. Most people I know have not even watched it. A lot of people start watching it and then get confused and shit on it because it's "confusing". It's nice to see a sci-fi show that doesn't need violence to make it work. The violence just helps it.
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Carlton Banks - Sat, 19 May 2018 20:16:31 EST ID:tjBD5yGS No.398285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398253
I've hardly seen any hype really. I know 3 ppl tops who watch it. It is nowhere near GoT hype level.

I think people are confusing acclaim for hype.
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Patrick Stewart - Sun, 20 May 2018 01:18:11 EST ID:kfZm62rv No.398295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398208
The 'atmosphere' is exactly like game of thrones, fighting for power, making allies an enemies. I can't really explain it that well...
>>398220
You meanie
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Dakota Fanning - Mon, 21 May 2018 13:12:27 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.398338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bullshit episode if you ask me.

Reusing material/characters and then acknowledging it in the show itself was pretty fucking annoying, not to mention cheap. It doesn't even make sense to have an identical large scene in 2 MAJOR towns, no qualified person is letting that through quality control [spoiler]Oh wait, the series itself did exactly that.... As if we didn't see that scene and those characters enough in the repeats in season 1. Delores continues being boring.

FUCK MAEVE and her newfound fucking superpowers. I now officially give less than zero fucks about that overpowered Mary Sueish piece of shit "character" . Way to remove the tiny bit of tension there was in the episode/series. Now Maeve can just waltz wherever she wants and make everyone suicide, whoop di duu. And don't say she can't do anything to humans, because she can literally make any host attack humans and even fine tune their aiming to the max. To be honest I'm only still watching this for black hat man and everything that isn't Delores or Maeve.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 21-05-2018 13:39:54
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Doug Funny - Mon, 21 May 2018 14:16:35 EST ID:pjY6dLxJ No.398344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398338
Also a bit ridiculous how the shogun guy cut off all his soldiers ears, and then continues barking orders at them that they obey. obvious plothole.

Also what philosophy is in the show? Every single AI that became aware treats humans like complete dirt, even people like the asian guy, who actually did the remarkable thing of doing nothing harmful to them, and that's considering everyone believed they would not remember it, they were just code and robotics. So would the AI themselves -- believing they were dealing with code and robotics -- treat those things any different? Considering how they treat each other and humans I doubt it. So it's a fucking stupid message. Unless it all unfolds to AI actually not having gained magical sentients, but that they are still acting without choice. Then it makes some sort of sense (yes, AI that isn't sentient will simply act the way its programmed). But what a dull philosophy to base a show upon.

It's still fun to see the whole edo era shogun stuff and robotics and so on, but it's essentially just eye candy with a silly premise.
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Ace - Mon, 21 May 2018 14:17:10 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398295
I guess I just haven't noticed it, but that one battle from last week did feel kinda thrones-y and lame.

But idk if I'd compare it to GoT I'd say that it's a lot better because the characters are more fleshed out. Westworld managed to totally flesh out a ton of characters in the matter of a season.
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Ace - Mon, 21 May 2018 17:19:32 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398345
Okay I've heard people complaining of it being boring and drawn out but I didn't really even notice it until this episode. The story lines have been drawn out so much that I just want some progression and I found myself wishing the episode was 45 minutes instead of a full hour.

Also, the moment Maeve and her squad moved into Shogunworld felt like a a line crossed into campy territory which I hadn't once thought this show was campy up until this point. Not a good sign.

I know there have been filler episodes before but I haven't noticed it at all until this episode. I hope it's just one-off and not a trend.
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Malory Archer - Mon, 21 May 2018 17:53:21 EST ID:oa2mmJAW No.398352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dunno apart from the ears thing being a bit dumb I thought it was cool. I'm pretty sick of cowboys anyway.
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Raoul Duke - Mon, 21 May 2018 18:17:27 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This episode had a lot of fun action but that's about it. Delores...oh Delores. I want to care about your character but...you're just not a good actress in this role. It feels like soap opera acting. Such a contrast to a lot of the other actors/actresses in the show. She is noticeably bad and the more the season goes on the more I am confirming my point.

But yeah. good action scenes overall.
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Raoul Duke - Mon, 21 May 2018 18:30:44 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also are hosts able to feel sex? they can feel all the feelings humans do when having intercourse? that seems rather complex. Also wouldnt they slowly break down without being maintained like they used to be?
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Sam Raimi - Tue, 22 May 2018 11:15:28 EST ID:4mesab6C No.398373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I felt like the last 2 episodes were slightly better, but still.

Like said before:
>make soldiers deaf
>yell orders

I like the idea that only a few of them are truly conscious while some of them seem to act like they're conscious but they're not.

Still this show has gone "wowdudebro so deep bro what is consciousness bro" to "pew pew samurai and cowboys"
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Judith Iscariot - Tue, 22 May 2018 18:29:15 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.398381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398354

is it her bad acting or because she is defective? im getting a defective vibe from her like the story she has doesnt quite work for her and purposefully so.

But totally feeling the whole "woah deep conciousness bro"
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Daniel Craig - Wed, 23 May 2018 05:20:56 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398381
everyone keeps saying it's because she is a robot her acting is bad and I'm not buying it. That sounds like a way to justify it. Every other host (defective or not) is able to convey themselves as the character they are supposed to be.

Her scenes where she is supposed to come off as a badass come off grossly forced. Her whispy delivery of lines is corny. She just doesn't have it in her to be a big bad guy with an army etc. Something is just awfully wrong with her acting. I can't help but cringe most of the time.
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Master Roshi - Wed, 23 May 2018 07:46:15 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.398395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398393

It might also help if she had some clearer motivations or a clearer character. The only thing she's managed to do was assplode all those people at the fort. She wants to play war with humanity because ??? What is her end game? Is she just defective and nuts? I guess these are all questions that should make me want to watch the series more to find out answers, but everytime she's on screen I lose all interest in the scene
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Zed - Wed, 23 May 2018 08:30:28 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.398396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398393

this is my thoughts about it.
Big productions like this run by HBO wouldnt allow bad acting, they would coach her if it wasn't intentional, this isnt some show run by high school kids after school its HBO, the execs could call up some of the best acting coaches and probably have them on set within the day.

If you're cringing then maybe think about why you are cringing, because somethign isnt right? because she doesnt suit the wyatt role. she doesnt suit being a badass, she doesnt suit being a conniving, scheming murderer. She suits being a farmers daughter who loves her father.
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Ice Cube - Wed, 23 May 2018 10:28:26 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't understand why people make fun of the show exploring philosophical questions. That was the one of the best parts of the show in season 1. Is it just memes so now any time something philosophical is in any kind of media, it's immediately associated with /psy/ tier philosophy shit?

I feel like if Measure of a Man from Star Trek TNG aired today people would make fun of it for being all like "whoa dude, like does Data like get rights and stuff??"
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Toshiko Sato - Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:44 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.398409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398393
Goddamn I swear I already explained how this works at least three times in this thread, if you're too fucking retarded to understand it just fucking drink a fucking car battery dry.
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William Hartnell - Wed, 23 May 2018 20:10:19 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398409
The plot is just too much for some people to comprehend. The fact that there is a murderous sociopath inside a farmer's daughter is enormously complex. You can't expect everyone to grasp something like that.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 24-05-2018 20:10:45
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Freddy Kruger - Thu, 24 May 2018 11:39:33 EST ID:6ohUQ9eK No.398442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398410
Lol shit's not deep.

And the result is Evan Rachel Wood playing a character she wouldn't have passed the aidition phase for.

Auditions are what you have because not every actor can play every role.
And fuck y'all, Wyatt was a shitty character as a man too.
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Howard Beale - Thu, 24 May 2018 18:19:12 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398410
>>398409

Sorry I insulted your waifu but I just think she is doing a shitty job. I understand this concept. I understand you think that her acting is bad ON PURPOSE. It's not the fact that she is a badass character in a farmers body holy shit. She just isn't doing a good job. Her scenes are awful and she is acting them awful. In my opinion it comes off poorly on the show. There have already been other characters in this show who have had personality changes and yet they are still doing a great job acting. So your point doesn't even holy up consistency with the rest of the show.

It's not a big deal. I think her acting is shitty. You think it's meta.
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William Hartnell - Thu, 24 May 2018 19:50:05 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398451
On your comment about consistency, there really aren't any other characters with anything similar going on except maybe Bernard but not really.

Also, you're just repeating the argument, again.
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Bartholomew Kuma - Thu, 24 May 2018 21:29:33 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.398459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398410

It really isn't that 2deep4u. She isn't Wyatt and she isn't a farmer's daughter. She found the center of the maze, gained consciousness and is acting as HERSELF for the first time. She has all her previous roles clonking around her head and apparently remembers everything that's happened to her ever. It might just help if her character had any character, you know, something about what she's doing long term, why she's doing it, what she actually thinks of the situation, what's her endgame. Now it's just "Human bad, me be cold heart bitch to fight bad human." They could have done something interesting like her having some actual philosophical thoughts about the matter or some existential crisis or having some sort of dissonace between her previous roles like sudden mood swings. I'm sure they're just saving Delores for the ending TWEEST, but in the meantime the show suffers from it. The twist probably being that she was not actually conscious and Robert just used her to destroy the park because he found out what they were really doing there with the bingo bango human transcendency/futureworld stuff, or maybe EVERYONE IS ALREADY A ROBOT!
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C-3PO - Fri, 25 May 2018 03:19:51 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398455
Every host that now has a consciousness? Or how about the outlaw character who was switched to being a really good person within one scene and did it wonderfully? Bernard has had multiple characters. Maeve has had different characters. There has been tons of character development and straight up changes in character on this show. It's no excuse for Deloris not being an engaging actress.

Like that other guy said. Not every actor/actress is perfect for every role. It's fine. She just can't act as wyatt very well. I'd laugh if she ever got a role in a character like this ever again. She does a horrible job.

But yeah I guess I'm an idiot because "she's bad at acting on purpose"
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Marjorie Monaghan - Fri, 25 May 2018 03:38:26 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467
nah im pretty sure she is
she doesnt know how shes supposed to act (the character)
shes still in the midst of developing sentience and has thus far been drawing on elements of pre-existing characters
kind of creating a new character for herself
watch ....i bet the acting gets more consistent as the character reconciles these mish mashed memories
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Marjorie Monaghan - Fri, 25 May 2018 03:38:26 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467
nah im pretty sure she is
she doesnt know how shes supposed to act (the character)
shes still in the midst of developing sentience and has thus far been drawing on elements of pre-existing characters
kind of creating a new character for herself
watch ....i bet the acting gets more consistent as the character reconciles these mish mashed memories
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Andy Serkis - Fri, 25 May 2018 07:05:45 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.398471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467

You're cringier than her acting.
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Bollo - Fri, 25 May 2018 10:29:23 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467
Notice that nobody was complaining about her acting in season 1 before Wyatt took over.
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Bloodyface - Fri, 25 May 2018 12:00:28 EST ID:rWRjXkS+ No.398480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398468
>>398469
>doubleposter
>retarded opinions
Every time.
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Marjorie Monaghan - Fri, 25 May 2018 12:22:19 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398480
im posting once and its getting double posted
dunno what the problem is
youre an idiot though
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Bollo - Fri, 25 May 2018 12:36:18 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398480
that's a website glitch, doofus
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C-3PO - Fri, 25 May 2018 19:43:44 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398476
Yes....That is the point. Some people are better at certain roles. Deloris does a fine job in season one as a host who is slowly discovering herself and finding consciousness. Deloris as Wyatt is just poorly acted. I feel like we are all talking in circles. Now you say "she is supposed to be acting poorly because it's not her."

I still really like the show I just find her acting takes me out of the show completely and reminds me that she is an actress playing a role in a television show. I'm sure this will change as her story/character develops. I hope.
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Sharko - Fri, 25 May 2018 20:44:56 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.398511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467
>Or how about the outlaw character who was switched to being a really good person within one scene and did it wonderfully?

Being conscious doesn't mean your personality traits are carved in stone. One of my best friends in highschool started as a neonazi retard, and he ended up becoming one of my best friends while I'm black.
That scene isn't showing you anything specific about hosts, or the world of WestWorld.

It's telling you something about how we humans function.
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Sharko - Fri, 25 May 2018 20:47:19 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.398512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398500
>I still really like the show I just find her acting takes me out of the show completely and reminds me that she is an actress playing a role in a television show. I'm sure this will change as her story/character develops. I hope.

THAT IS THE FUCKING POINT YOU FUCKING RETARD! THE ENTIRE POINT IS THAT HER ACTING BECOMES SO FUCKING META IT PULLS YOU OUT!
WYATT/DOLORES IS DISTURBING TO HOSTS, DISTURBING TO THE PEOPLE IN THE NARRATIVE, AND DISTURBING TO US VIEWERS!

HOW CAN YOU STIIIIIIIIIIIIILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID CUNT?

THE ENTIRE SHOW HAS BEEN META AS FUCK AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IT OOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEE SEASON LATER?
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Charlie Sheen - Fri, 25 May 2018 21:29:43 EST ID:l3Mu0nGn No.398513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll throw more fuel on the fire.

I think that most of the frustration people have with the two strong female leads is because they are strong female leads and the people complaining are just sexist. Nobody has a problem with the male characters.
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Bernard Quatermass - Fri, 25 May 2018 22:04:45 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398500
Yeah I imagine you feel that way because you've just said the same thing like 8 times.

>>398513
This
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Splint Chesthair - Fri, 25 May 2018 23:32:49 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398513
I'm not complaining about Maeve though? I also don't care if a women is a lead role or not. It's been happening for decades now but people are pretending it's new. I also have no problem with the lead women in GoT, Star Wars or the Marvel Universe.

>>398512
Calm down man. Let's just agree to disagree because neither of us are budging on our opinions. I just don't think that Deloris is supposed to be a bad actress so that it takes me out of the show completely. You think she is a bad actress on purpose to take me out of the show because it's meta. Let's just leave it at that.

I honestly find it kind of ridiculous how angry some of you are getting over the fact that some people don't enjoy Deloris's acting and story. I enjoy almost everything else about this show. What's the problem.. fug.
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Newman - Sun, 27 May 2018 06:57:32 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398513
well AAAAAYE think a lot of the frustration people have stems from a deep seated discrimination of sociopathic farmers daughters with split personalities. likely as the result of some sort of abuse or mistreatment in the presence of a penguins and or llamas.

i mean shit nobody got a problem with the tiger or or those weird little dune buggies

i dunno....im drunk....and thats clearly a troll post
roll with it
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Hank Venture - Mon, 28 May 2018 07:35:38 EST ID:rWRjXkS+ No.398605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I love how when a man's life is at stake, Maeve just doesn't use her powers. TAKE THAT MISOGYNISTS
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Tabitha St. Germain - Mon, 28 May 2018 10:10:21 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.398611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"Oh hi Bernard."
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Terry Jones - Wed, 30 May 2018 01:58:13 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lots to unpack with this weeks episode. Teddy is a madman now(and another example of an actor who is better in one role as opposed to another...wow...and he is a male as well. He plays a badass way better then a goodboy). I think I know where the Bernard story is going but we will see. Samuari battle was confusing to me plot wise but it was still kinda cool. Like someone else in this thread said. Maeve having super powers kinda sucks now. I like her character but it seems like there are big plot holes when she only chooses to use her powers sometimes and not other times.
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Zoe Washburne - Wed, 30 May 2018 03:47:13 EST ID:zMsziYme No.398674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398513
All the male characters are weak,submissive slaves to the whims of the females.
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Ben Stiller - Wed, 30 May 2018 04:08:59 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398674
what about ford though?
or MIB?
or jim delos?

i mean theyre terrible people but they definitely do their own thing anyone else be damned
interesting and exciting characters that would sell you out for a nickle ....maybe just for the shits and giggles

the drama just aint the same without it
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Zoe Washburne - Wed, 30 May 2018 16:58:55 EST ID:zMsziYme No.398706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398676
Ford was motivated by Dolores
MIB is motivated by his wife and daughter
Jim is dead

Its a shallow show about hypocritical female sociopaths abusing men.
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Orson Welles - Wed, 30 May 2018 18:33:03 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.398710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398706
>Ford was motivated by Dolores

He's the final boss of this whole show. He may have been influenced by her but he was very much making his own decisions. Then again I think you might be trolling with the last sentence.
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Zoe Washburne - Wed, 30 May 2018 19:07:42 EST ID:zMsziYme No.398711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398710
> Beating the final boss on the first level.
Dolores is based on Ford's daughter.

This show isn't about Memories, free will or consciousness. It is about misandry being passed off as progressivism.
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Orson Welles - Wed, 30 May 2018 19:31:52 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.398712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398711
I know you're just fucking with me now but Fords still basically alive and running this whole thing
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George Costanza - Wed, 30 May 2018 21:08:13 EST ID:zMsziYme No.398713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398712
So It just took Ford 30 years to decide that Arnold was right all along? [spoiler/]
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Brendon Small - Wed, 30 May 2018 21:13:22 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay I'm just gonna ask. How do you do spoiler tags. I've not used them in probably 7 years. Used to know how but forgot.

Also this show isn't about feminism or putting men down or anything FFS. There are strong and weak women and men in this show and a lot of them change characters as the show goes on.
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Jake Morgendorffer - Wed, 30 May 2018 23:05:30 EST ID:H1jiz8QZ No.398720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I watched all of S1 6 months ago and regretted wasting my time. Am I right to have completely ignored S2?
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Ralph Fiennes - Wed, 30 May 2018 23:14:41 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398720
It's still good but some people aren't as hyped about season 2
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Ralph Fiennes - Wed, 30 May 2018 23:15:51 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.398723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398716
[%-]Spoiler Goes Here[/-%]

--minus the dashes--
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Brendon Small - Wed, 30 May 2018 23:42:57 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398723
Thanks
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Dr. Krieger - Thu, 31 May 2018 00:21:41 EST ID:CjfnNzBW No.398725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398720
Please skip it so that you don't shit up this thread when you do watch it.

It's not as tidy as the previous season and seems to lack focus.
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Gaius Baltar - Thu, 31 May 2018 03:40:54 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.398728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398720
if you didnt like season 1 very much youll love season 2
the robot rebellion was put down and its now a workplace dramedy style sitcom focusing on various stiff preprogrammed responses between characters while donning a poor disguise of comfortable familiarity always sought and never known

...should check it out
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Joolushko Tunai Fenta Hovallis - Thu, 31 May 2018 13:20:08 EST ID:PpUqOOBE No.398738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just finished ep 5 finally

I'm loving this season.

that fuckin C.R.E.A.M tho
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Bernard Hill - Thu, 31 May 2018 23:32:07 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398738
I actually had to look that up when I saw that scene because it was SO familiar but not hitting me for some reason. I do love the interesting takes on classic hits.
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Isaac Dian - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 05:21:05 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.398860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey is there anyway we could stream Westworld tonight on mtvtube? That'd be kinda fun. It would be cool if mtvtube had some weekly event things kinda like how /wooo/tube does. Like special movie nights. and certain shows n stuff.
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Señor Chang - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 03:11:28 EST ID:WY7HlEZK No.398955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And I'm back in again. This was a pretty exciting episode.
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Dante Hicks - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 11:27:09 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's a bit odd that Dolores would have no qualms about taking over all kinds of hosts, even multiple that she has extremely strong feelings for, yet let Maeve "choose her own path" even though they didn't seem to have particularly strong feelings for each other.
I get the feeling that down there line those two will be at odds with each other. Maeve will save the day.

I finally caught up on the last two episodes and I'm happy it got back to season 1 Level quality. There was a dip in quality for a couple episodes before that. Not a huge dip, just enough to take the edge off my enthusiasm for the show a little.
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Penny Priddy - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 17:17:10 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399124
You call it a dip.

I call it necessary exposition for the final bang. Or at least, I hope that's what Lisa and Jonathan have planned.

I think a lot of people don't realise that WW works with an atypical tension curve for TV. In a way, it's more like an 10 hour film than a show with 10 distinct episodes.

So the first few episodes of a WW season will be weaker than the final episodes, because they're used to construct tension for the ending.
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Borat Sagdiyev - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:43:47 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was just watching Hannibal, S1E2, and noticed that it looks like the labs in Westworld where they work on the hosts share the same set as the lab in Hannibal where they often perform autopsies.
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Morgan Le Fey - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:10:01 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
westworld has gotten absolutely ridiculous. So much cheese. Stupid action scenes. Massive plot holes. Forced dialogue. Fan service. This season has taken me out of the show by leaps and bounds.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:25:27 EST ID:OR/Yo4mj No.399191 Report Quick Reply
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>>399154
Yeah it is sort of reminiscent of the crime lab in Hannibal although that has lighter colors contrasting with Westworld's darker colors. I'd like to imagine Brian and Jimmy working on Westworld doing the same thing.
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Charlie Murphy - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:55:41 EST ID:TPXJ4yfI No.399233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Okay I'm loving all these other culture flashbacks. Shogun episode was great, this Indian episode is great. Looking forward to the Indian episode next week where the Indians are Indian and their elephants don't look weird and have mohawks.
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Bollo - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 04:04:22 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is no way that Ake and his girlfriend could of traveled as far as they did out of their loops without getting stopped right away. Why would they leave Ake behind but take her? He's been running around out of his loop all over the place doing all kinds of weird shit for years and nobody spotted it? He also managed to walk around the building and find his old girlfriend in the basement. No cameras? Nothing?
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Jack Nicholson - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:03:59 EST ID:0xhzEBxT No.399267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399262
Maybe the Alpha-2 generation doesn't have the tracking mechanisms?
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Janitor - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 12:48:18 EST ID:VbuAK6Hx No.399274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This most recent episode was pretty much the only one this season that I REALLY enjoyed. The writing this season has reminded me a lot of the last couple seasons of GoT. A lot of stuff just feels perfunctory and rushed. That moment in this most recent episode where the native fella finds his girl's frozen, nude body in that hall of retired hosts was fucking amazing visual storytelling.
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Harrison Ford - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:27:46 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.399276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I hate to admit it but somebody said the best episodes don't feature Deloris or Maeve lol. I don't really care about Maeve but I have been digging the Eastworld stuff. Do I just recognize the actor or did we see this guy (without make up) earlier in the series?
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Rainer Werner Fassbinder - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:09:15 EST ID:Xg5WCHaT No.399281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399276
Is that Hanzee?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 14:56:33 EST ID:qDZXDIgW No.399284 Report Quick Reply
>>399276
Yes he was a host at that party that he met Logan at about the host technology if I remember correctly.

>>399281
Yeah it’s Zahn McClarnon though I know him more as Matthias on Longmire..

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 12-06-2018 14:58:03
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Lawrence "Chunk" Cohen - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:33:06 EST ID:4M/5LiU+ No.399287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>396956
Should I give the second episode a chance? The first season was spectacular, it made me laugh, cry, thirst for the blood of mankind, and avoid the internet completely out of fear of spoilers. It was a twelve-hour science fiction movie with a satisfying conclusion.
When Dolores said “It doesn’t look like anything to me.” during that execution scene I burst out laughing and pissed off my cousin to no end. I feel like director is just repeating “ACT BADASS” and I don’t think I dislike it because she’s too strong of a woman for me. A male actor “BEING WYATT” could be equally comical. It’s like the show is making fun of itself already. Nothing that happened on the island outpost was interesting at all. Seeing robots executed by firing squad was not compelling, as they were used as cannon fodder and repaired throughout the first season. Am I just not up for this? I thought I was hyped, what the fuck?

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 13-06-2018 07:55:50
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Saul Goodman - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 18:18:06 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399276
You goddamn retard.

YOU GODDAMN RETARD.

Maeve had a CENTRAL ROLE in this episode YOU GIANT MONGOLOID!

Maeve IS Kohana! They changed her body, but repurposed her mind.
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Brigadier Lethbridge Stewart - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:17:47 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.399295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399287
>I dislike it because she's too strong of a woman for me.
Check your privilege you misogynist incel. There's actually people on this board who unironically think this.
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Spike Lee - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 00:00:52 EST ID:z7NtxfUp No.399299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399295
Mate I posted that idea first for a laugh. I'm glad it tickled your pickle.
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Chuck Finley - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 05:51:22 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was a really good episode. A nice slow burn and a new and interesting character comes into the fold.
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Dr. Ann McGregor - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:09:32 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399290
Do you only post like this?
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Garfield - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:34:57 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399310
I do when I see dumbass motherfucking shit.
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Tinto Brass - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:45:35 EST ID:4ojXWuPV No.399349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Starting the second season this week. Watched the first 2 episodes las night and they were awful. In place of actual drama and mystery inside the world, all the characters know what they're doing and where they're going but they're just speaking in riddles and not telling us.

I hope it gets better, my SO loves this show, so I'm basically committed to watching it. First season was pretty good, so hopefully it will get there.
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Maggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:21:27 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399349
It does get better but it feels like it takes way too long to actually get those feelings like you described back. Fair warning. Can't really say if it is worth it yet but the last few episodes have been really good. I lost interest about halfway through the season so you might be in for a slog. It does get better but w won't know if it's validated until the finale.
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Dennis Reynolds - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:11:34 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh my fucking god what the fuck just fucking happened holy fucking shit.
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Señor Chang - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 02:03:43 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this season is pretty stupid...
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Jeff Goldblum - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 03:05:11 EST ID:7f415ttP No.399468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I honestly don't know how to feel about this season. I like parts but I feel they're like building up to this epic shit and I know its just gunna be disappointing, like there's no real mysteries left, which were the fun parts of season one, figuring out the fuck is going on. oOoOOoooOOohh DELOS copying people brains so meta and mysterious come on that's such a lame "big concept" thing to base a season around
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Jenette Vasquez - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 03:16:43 EST ID:PcrHv9jI No.399469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396956
can someone put the latest episode somewhere where i can download it?
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Katsuhiro Otomo - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:19:31 EST ID:stw13UrE No.399479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Only up to episode 4 so far, but the Delos security forces tactics are really straining my suspension of disbelief.

Like, why would you assault a fortified position on foot with nothing but completely unarmored offroad vehicles for support? Can this clearly ultra-rich megacorporation not afford tanks or even an armored personnel carrier or two? Or for that matter, UAVs and helicopter gunships?

I mean, I get that for plot reasons, they have to be more vulnerable (nothing some Old West militia has is going to scratch modern AFVs except maybe a molotov to the engine radiator), but shooting it out full auto at less than 50m in an open field just seems so god damn stupid, like something out of a dumb 80s action film. That sort of B-movie schlock really grates hard and stands in a stark contrast against how much thought clearly went into everything else.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 19-06-2018 14:08:45
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Larry David - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:23:29 EST ID:2c5W4bE1 No.399480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399479
Yeah that's the worst part. The shitty goon vs goon battles.

It gets good in 2 or 3 episodes
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Señor Chang - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 08:57:52 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399480
Honestly it barely gets good. This season has been really messy. I will definitely continue for season 3 but I hope they gain some focus. The big dumb action scenes have almost all been pointless and forced. It feels like they are shoe horning in big battle scenes to appease the masses but I think most fans of this show like it for the story and mystery.

Overall it feels like Season 2 has a main plot that is engaging and then a bunch of subplots that just make you want the scenes to end. Shogun World was utterly pointless and nobody can tell me otherwise. It was just to be like "look cool samurais". All those big battles in Shogun World were even more pointless. Every episode just feels so disjointed from the next.

It just hasn't been doing it for me. Now where is that guy who replies in all caps shrieking when someone criticizes the show?

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 19-06-2018 13:32:42
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Dennis Reynolds - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 10:34:12 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399481
First you complain about the lack of story and mystery, then you complain about Shogun World?

Shogun World is literally a moment of S1 in S2, the introspection on loops and narrative... You complain about the battles in Shogun World but there's not even a single battle in the Shogun World arc. There's a ninja attack, a massacre, an IMPLIED battle and a duel.

Goddamn you fucking idiot, if you complain about some shit, do it right.

Rewrite your critique and do it right this time.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 19-06-2018 13:33:05
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Afro Samurai - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:52:42 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.399487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399484

Why are you constantly so mad WWDF-man. You just go around calling people who critisize the show retards, without anything but your own shitty retard opinions to back up your calling others retards. There was also a pretty big battle at the start of the Shogun world arc which was just blatantly recycled from the first season and even acknowledged as being recycled right in the show, but that's just deep and introspective storytelling about loops and narratives so it doesn't count right? Just like any critique about the show can be handwaved away by you with "They intended for it to be bad, cheap and stupid, maybe this show is just 2deep4u retard idiots ;). "

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Maggie Simpson - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 20:08:45 EST ID:2c5W4bE1 No.399495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399484
I didn't like shogunworld either as it seemed like a side quest.

It set the stage to have Maeve develop her powers, but apart from that there wasn't much else that changed or was added in the arc. Perhaps we will see the characters again. The ghost nation episode was much more rewarding and relevant to the whole show.
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Bill Haverchuck - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 06:27:49 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399484
You need to stop assuming nobody understands the show and stop calling people idiots and retards. It's coming off very childish. I don't spell out everything happening in an episode when I make a critique because I assume most of us know what is going on for the most part.

Yes....I saw that it was a throwback to Season 1. It wasn't clever... It was shoehorned in. I don't know how to communicate to you because you just end up replying like a child who has never seen a sci-fi television show before. You're the kind of person that thinks the Back To The Future Trilogy is super deep because it has throwbacks to the old movies.

Thanks for not using all caps lock I guess.

>>399487
This person pretty much says everything I want to say but better.
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Dirk Hardpec - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:37:47 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399502
>Yes....I saw that it was a throwback to Season 1. It wasn't clever... It was shoehorned in.

Now this is a critique I can work with. You say it was shoehorned in, I say, that's the point. Season 1 was pretty much a critique on Hollywood, how it always tells the same stories, works with the same tropes. ShogunWorld really hammers that point home to all the retards that failed to understand that point of S1 by clearly spelling it out.

The show cannot be fucking autist tier arthouse kino meaning seeking at every point because most people that watch TV don't have the patience for it, hell you can see it in this fucking thread.

The show has this awkward balance between being some scifi HBO GoT-companion show, and being an Jonathan "The guy who wrote Memento" Nolan show.
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Leeloo - Wed, 20 Jun 2018 13:38:39 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.399507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399505

>You say it was shoehorned in, I say, that's the point. Season 1 was pretty much a critique on Hollywood, how it always tells the same stories, works with the same tropes.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Even for TV shows.
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Joss Whedon - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:10:00 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399505
You know you can just disagree with people, not everyone else's criticisms have to hold up to your thoughts and grueling standards.
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Snake Plissken - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:12:05 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.399533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399525

I disagree, everyones critisisms do need to allign with my thoughts or grueling standards, why would people want to be and accept a wrong opinion??
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Jay Sherman - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 19:47:30 EST ID:zx1q0Nl5 No.399544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399525
Look mate, in the Westworld thread, I'd like to see commentary that's a bit deeper than in the fucking capeshit thread, okay?

Is that so much to ask for?
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Sergio Martino - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:09:06 EST ID:7f415ttP No.399546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399544
Because West World is such a deep and cerebral commentary on the human condition and what it means to be human etc etc? This show isn't breaking new ground or presenting new scifi ideas that haven't been done 100000 times but it's pretty good, why does it have to be super serious with you?
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Carl Grimes - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 02:41:28 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399544
Holy shit you are so insufferable. Westworld is a good show but it has a lot of flaws and that is okay. Season 2 especially. You're obsession with how deep and intelligent the show is pretty funny tbh.
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Brak - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:56:04 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.399662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one could be arsed to bump the thread for the season finale? Yeah, this season was pretty shit, wasn't it?
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Syndey Bristow - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:32:33 EST ID:VPGeuiNf No.399663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399662
it was a pretty sharp drop i still enjoyed it
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Blix - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:56:03 EST ID:1LUlzS1I No.399670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399662
my only takeaway was that this show will never stop being up it's own ass about the twists (and trying to keep people online from figuring them out) and that's a shame because the handful of relatively self-contained episodes they had this season (like Riddle of the Sphinx and Kiksuya) were great.
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Wikus van de Merwe - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:27:39 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Idc about the Man in Black's troubled family history
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Vince Masuka - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:25:50 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399674
I take that back after actually finishing s2e9
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Murtagh - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 21:44:17 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well Season 2 wasn't trash but it was definitely not as good as season 1 at all. Everything is rushed and slapped together. It feels a lot less cinematic and more like a show that would be on Sci-Fi network or something. They should just go full b-movie camp next season. Bring in aliens. Fuck it. Shits gotten ridiculous.
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Vince Masuka - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 04:15:19 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The finale was good and pretty satisfying. I enjoyed the way that it got kinda cartoony and almost campy. It just overall wasn't anywhere near on par with season 1. The season 1 finale was beautifully woven together with lots of dramatic reveals through action. The season 2 finale spent a lot of time explaining what is happening which I just didn't appreciate all that much. All the "this is what I did and this is why we're here" stuff just felt really lazy.

They shouldn't have kept the time skip gimmick going. They should have totally ditched it and done something new. It didn't work very well imo. Really, they shouldn't have been trying to recapture season 1 glory at all, it should have been foreseen that they would fail at that.

Season 2 was crafty whereas season 1 was deft and brilliant.
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genophyte - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 15:54:57 EST ID:fst3Ra8b No.399694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399683
MUH MEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAVVVVEE!!!
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Matt Smith - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 18:21:11 EST ID:qMXyQXCM No.399696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought I didn't give a shit about anyone on the show that's actually had lines then I basically cheered when Akecheta JUST made it through the gate. He's boring but I'm glad Teddy got a happy ending, I still think Deloris is a wack job despite being written as a sympathetic. Some redemption from the human characters was nice. So really were doing a third season? Seemed pretty final with some ambiguity. Animals were neat but lets get those Mythical beasts going, you got the technology! Also bring back my Dragon Waifu!
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Err - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 19:06:57 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.399697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399696
Yeah a third season is completely unnecessary. Also can someone explain to me why a copy of that guy who entered the "promised land" first fell off a cliff? I watched it over and over trying to figure out what happened.
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Ren Höek - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 22:42:53 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399697
iirc, all of that shit they saw wasn't really there, it was just a big empty pit. The pit that ford was digging in season 1. So the entrance was on the edge of the cliff overlooking the pit? I'm not sure. But I think they all just fell into a pit that was filled with water and that's where they found all the bodies washed up on the shore in early season 2. Idk, it's been a while.
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Nathan Barley - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 23:10:37 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399697
It was just their data that was being transferred over into that digital world. So their bodies don't go over they just fall into the pit. Then Deloris flooded everything and they all washed up at the start of Season 2. Their "consciousness" was transferred into the "Forge".

The shows gotten hilariously campy at this point. I agree with the guy who said bring in dragons n shit. Season 3 should have aliens flying robot dragons. Then we can hear about how the show is too intelligent for us by that guy.

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Mickey Smith - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:14:07 EST ID:mkScIv03 No.399707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay so can we just talk about what we think the ending was?

Where did the valley beyond get beamed? Some far flung satellite like voyager? But eh.

Also where the fuck are Delores and Bernard at the end? The real world? The valley beyond? Who cares is the correct answer.

Finally so the Man in Black is a simulation? Where did he go in the lift? Weird. Hallucination. Higher layer of reality. Is the real world in westworld a simulation? Who cares.


I mean I liked it, but it was just Game of Thronified.
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Ren Höek - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:33:43 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399707
Yeah it was pretty Game of thronesy. But not like season 7 game of thronesy, it hasn't gotten that bad yet. That's why they need to go full camp instead of continuing to take itself seriously while it continues to devolve.
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Christian Bale - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 05:52:45 EST ID:B3VzPPU2 No.399710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The season staeted like shit, got better and ended like shut.

Shit show
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Mike Judge - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:10:47 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.399727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
reading some of these comments makes me wonder if we have even been watching the same show.
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Itchy and Scratchy - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 19:33:52 EST ID:2DXiD14w No.399728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399707

Answer to the first isn't clear.

Delores and Bernard are at Arnold's house in the real world.

Mib is probably not a host in current time, but in the far off future is a host that has been replaying his life for a long time, I'm guessing as some sort of Sisyphean penance to one of any number of people he has wronged.
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Thomas Anderson - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:50:09 EST ID:VfvpxBD3 No.399729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399728
Yeah I thought that might be the case with MIB but then his daughter had said that she had something much worse for him planned in the current timeline. So either her plan was completed after she had died at MIBs hand or somehow the present is a simulation. Dunno
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Lysa Arryn - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 00:07:24 EST ID:PzzK75Kh No.399732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399710
Your spelling staeted like shit, got better and ended like shut.

Shitpost.
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Peter Bishop - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 00:16:46 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399727
Are you sad that everyone isn't blindly saying the show is genious?
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Harry Sullivan - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 03:13:28 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.399735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399733

no just comments like a copy of that guy who entered the "promised land" first fell off a cliff? I watched it over and over trying to figure out what happened. makes me wonder if people are paying attention when the show clearly says why that is happening.

>Also where the fuck are Delores and Bernard at the end?
Like its obvious that they have gone to the real world

I dunno man, its not like its "deep" stuff thats 2hard2get, its literally stuff that they imply either visually or flat out tell you in the show.
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Everett McGill - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 03:41:01 EST ID:RlPVQGDC No.399736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399735
You don't see a problem with the fact that Delores spent a few minutes explaining in as simple terms as possible what just happened? Imagine if they did that in season one and how cheapened it would have felt. The quality just wasn't there.
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Lexa Doig - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 04:45:59 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399736
Sorry this was me from phone, I can't read.
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Grunkle Stan - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 05:17:43 EST ID:EPCJXve7 No.399738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399735
>Like it's obvious
They never showed outside of the houses walls. That could be anywhere. You know how westworld be.
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Harry Sullivan - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 06:33:57 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.399740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399738

yeah, true, but only in the sense that its the real world to them. in that the real world in which they all came from, we dont necessarily know how many layers there is but we can assume that the world above the westworld layer is "the real world" at least to them and thats where they escaped too

Anyway based on that ending its pretty safe to say that the next season is going to focus more on futureworld
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Eric Wareheim - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:51:06 EST ID:T3J7fEl3 No.399742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399740
How about we don't touch futureworld because it's a big fat tub of shit from the 70's?

Seriously the show has realized the kind of technology that would be required to make all this shit, and what is the point of futureworld if you're already living in it? Just build a sweet M.C. Escher park somewhere else and stock it with primitive sexbots instead of overly convoluted hosts.
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Milos Forman - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 09:13:05 EST ID:ZPLA220m No.399743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399742

I haven't watched season 2 yet, because the first episode didn't really grab me, but Futureworld could be fun if the set design embraces Retrofuturism and looks like a 1970s version of the future.

Legion looked great for doing this, and I'd like to see more of it.
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Elora Danan - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 00:12:24 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The last season of this show will reveal Bernard is playing VRChat this whole time.
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Bob Saget - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:45:53 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.399919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow. I just started this show about a week ago, just finished Ep 7 of Season 1. I could not fucking believe it that Bernard was a host all along. Felt real dumb for not predicting that. Been a while since a show surprised the fuck out of me like that. This show is fucking awesome can't wait to check out Season 2.
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Bob Saget - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:56:03 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.399920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399919

also... does anyone get the sense that "Arnold" in this show is gonna end up the same as "Jacob" in Lost? Just some anticlimactic random dude who barely matters later on? (I havent even started S2 yet so obviously I could be speaking like a noob fool, just my reaction this far) nb
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Eric Cartman - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:37:24 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.399924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399920

rofl nvm just finished ep 9, about to cap off the first season. not only was bernard a host, he's fucking arnold. what the fuck.
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Eric Cartman - Tue, 03 Jul 2018 23:22:23 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.399927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399924

sorry to quadpost like a faggot but im nobumping. i binged episodes 6-10 today, finishing the season. my god, william being the man in black absolutely blew my mind. good fucking shit. good fucking show. i'd argue it's approaching the level of breaking bad with this first season. i'll have to see how season 2 is
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Daryl Hannah - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 01:29:47 EST ID:7f415ttP No.399931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399927
If season one is blowing your dick off with twists then prepared to be letdown hard in season 2
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Peggy Hill - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 02:11:41 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.399932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399927
Man reading your posts gives me tons of perspective. I said the same thing after season 1. I was telling people it was the best show on television. Seasons one was so good and the twists were awesome.

Season 2 is a lot less fun....Fuck season 2 really sucked man. The more I think about it the more I end up laughing at some of the legit stupid episodes they had. What a clusterfuck.
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Lady Rainicorn - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 02:42:35 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.399934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399931
Yeah basically this. I mean, it doesn't suck. It just doesn't manage to recapture it at all really.
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Daryl Hannah - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:53:21 EST ID:7f415ttP No.399940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>399934
Season 2 is basically GOT-esque battles mixed with middle-school level sci-fi ideas and "'super deep wat r people" philosophy questions' that most people think about when they're 13. It started off fun scifi ideas and somehow became terribly bland "humans are the real monsters", the whole message of the series is so fucking flawed and confused, it doesn't know what its trying to be; to either make a coherent interesting story or make a convincing narrative about the possible dangers of AI, it waffles back and forth, every scene in modern eps are usually shallow and lame as fuck
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Silk Spectre - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 07:26:56 EST ID:ER840Wib No.399941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't mean to come off as a dick... but might I suggest
>>396452

or maybe
>>399865
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Eric Cartman - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:41:47 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.399973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399931
>>399932
>>399934
>>399940

well fucking great. thanks for the warning guys. i was really hyped to start season 2, maybe ill give it a rest and come back to it when im not so hyped
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Duncan MacLeod - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:09:10 EST ID:nYoerqx7 No.400271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>399973

its me again. im halfway through season 2 and i dont know what the fuck you guys were talking about. it's answering every question i had from season 1, and i am loving the direction it is going. maybe the season will drop off and suck in the latter half but so far it's on par with season 1. i doubt they will have a twist at the end as good as season one's multiple timelines twist, but shit i dont expect them to ever pull off something that good again.

also to the guy who was like "season 2 shows what a shitty actress the lady playing dolores is" i couldn't disagree more. i think she's doing a really excellent job of portraying a really complicated character and its growth and exploration of its own consciousness. so far i am very pleased with season 2 and i will report again when i finish it.
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Michael Mann - Fri, 13 Jul 2018 22:10:29 EST ID:Mn19BObK No.400301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400271

Season 2 got a lot of hate because of the usual reasons things get hate "its mainstream and im a vegan double latte with soy milk and secretary glasses with tattoos and a record collection, therefore westworld sucks"
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Charlie Chaplin - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 00:20:02 EST ID:edZ8rNGp No.400305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400271
You probably got lucky watching both seasons back to back tbh. I think the first few episodes of season 2 would be a lot easier to digest after freshly consuming season 1.

Remember that we haven't seen season 1 for over a year and remember it as an exquisitely crafted puzzle, and so jumping into season 2 ep 1 with so many loose threads and supporting characters that you barely remember, it's like wtf. Pretty jarring tbh.

It's like oh yeah old security guy, did he do anything last season I don't know or care.

I liked season 2 but yeah I don't think it was on the same level as I watched the first seasons episodes as they came out multiple times in a row before the next episide was released to catch all of the hints and preempt the twists.

I'm not sure that the hints were next level this season, though there were a few.
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Dean Winchester - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 16:07:14 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.400329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400271
It's not my fault you have bad taste
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Dean Winchester - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 16:16:32 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.400331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400301
And this doesn't even make sense at all. Westworld Season 2 was just poorly put together. There are so many scenes that have no baring on anything. There are pointless fight scenes. Shogun World was utterly pointless. Characters were not consistant. Dolores whispering in a forced raspy voice to sound serious business didn't do it for me? The complete lack of common sense. The amount of coincidences where characters just happen to meet up by chance in the massive park(multiple times) that we are supposed to just live with. Developing plot points only to kill them within the next episode. Introducing new characters that don't matter at all. Not developing older characters that need to be developed more.

The best episode is the one with the ghost nation dudes and the more I think about it the more I realize how pointless his entire story arc is so it kinda sours the whole thing.

There are still things worth watching about Westworld but I can't just put my blinders on and pretend season 2 was awesome.
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Master Roshi - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:39:08 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.400338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400271
Ay if you like it more power to you. Like someone else said it could have been different seeing it binged. But I do feel bad that you were discouraged because of our posts. To each their own. I was just a bit frustrated that it didn't really live up for me. There's been a couple of those this year and I'm not sure if I'm just turning into Stan the alcoholic seeing everything as shit. Still haven't finished Legion. I really hope this doesn't have any bearing on how well Better Call Saul will do this year. I'm sure it won't.
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Greta Garbo - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:48:06 EST ID:7ktjRlcO No.400375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>400271
i just finished the season, i too more or less enjoyed it. I found it rather confusing much like season 1 but i actually found the pacing and rhythm better, the characters were a bit less intriguing however. All these other people saying it sucked are just the same people who complained about star wars and mad max and ghostbusters, no one is allowed to enjoy any remakes/reboots or theyre the globalist stallions destroying western civilisation (hail trump) -narrative.
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Tommy Gavin - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:15:14 EST ID:7f415ttP No.400378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>400375
>same people complaining about star wars, mad max, and Ghostbusters
I mean besides mad max the others sucked major cock what are you trying to argue here, did you seriously enjoy the new Ghostbusters or The Last Jedi?
Season 2 sucked hard compared to season 1 I'm not sure how you can defend it.
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Master Roshi - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:13:14 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.400381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>400375
>no one is allowed to enjoy any remakes/reboots or theyre the globalist stallions destroying western civilisation (hail trump) -narrative.
This troll claiming that season 2 of Westworld was good got most of you. No one could seriously think that this or the feminist Ghostbusters reboot was anything more than mediocre. You can tell he's a troll by trying to twist any criticism of shitty media into accusations of supporting our President. No one is that retarded. Nope. I refuse to believe it.
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Leslie Vernon - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 14:22:28 EST ID:XJ6p0u59 No.400384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its okay if you liked Season 2. You don't have to come in this thread acting everyone who thinks it was bad has some kind of political agenda. Same with people who are saying Delores had shitty acting this season. I got told that I hate women because I didn't like her acting. It's just a tv show. In fact it's a tv show that I enjoy. Season 2 was just weak as fuck.
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Roy Neary - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:38:43 EST ID:7ktjRlcO No.400421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400384
>>400381
>>400378
I think you guys are all just mad that Westworld s2 didn't produce exactly the same feelings s1 did which is impossible anyway because it's not new anymore. If you just opened yourselves a bit more you might possibly enjoy yourself. The same happens with those other movies. It's all a 'don't destroy my childhood nostalgia with pc culture' backlash which is all bullshit anyway, just motivated reasoning to hate some movies because they might send messages you don't like. Like one of the things I remember about S1 was that Delores was repeatedly raped, would you guys all be a bit happier if there were more rape scenes in s2?
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Yasujiro Ozu - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:48:27 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.400422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>400421
>implying sexbots can be "raped"
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Chucky Finster - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:53:31 EST ID:RNoOTJrn No.400423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400421
I liked season 1 enough to watch it all, but there was a big gap toward the end where I lost interest and didn't watch for like a month. But I felt satisfied. Here's where I do not feel satisfied. I do not feel satisfied tuning into a show, expecting it to be continuing exactly where it left off, as if there were no such thing as "seasons". But nop. I had to get the typical...I don't even know what to call it...bullshit? Idk. But the typical thing tv shows do at the end of a season, where between the ending and the start of the new season, there is some passage of time in-story, almost as if "lol they musta had vacation just like us! lolololol ain't that novel and swell??!" but we don't have to play that time game anymore..."seasons" are archaic and are meaningless as anything other than archiving terms. I was expecting the show to have the same pacing, the same build, the same...flow. But no. They had to *cringeworthy hype man voice* "Step up the action! YeOW!!!! Step up the PACEEEEEE! Things are HAPPENING!" *BIG SMILE*
But then I looked behind the curtain as instructed and was greeted with a show that seemed to have gone off the rails in terms of pacing, structure, worldbuilding, motivebuilding, etc. It's like they ramped up the speed on a record when the flipped sides, almost as if to say "HEY EVERYONE AT MY PARTY, I KNOW WE JUST REALLY ENJOYED THIS A SIDE, BUT FOR THE B SIDE I'M GONNA TURN THE RPMS UP TO AN UNCOMFORTABLE LEVEL! THAT'S FUN RIGHT?" And everyone in the party suddenly just wishes they were home.
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Alex Cox - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:55:07 EST ID:sh+F9mZ/ No.400424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400422
lol im sure that AI will deny incel chuds like you just the same as everyone else
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Jack Deth - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 22:55:33 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.400425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400375
Why you gotta make me look like a fool for empathizing with you in this post >>400338
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Charlie Murphy - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 00:54:39 EST ID:2PAQ7+Mc No.400430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400384
Man I told you that was a joke. Get over it. It was funny.
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Skylar White - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 03:00:47 EST ID:NMcIoJ1n No.400436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400422
>implying the whole of the show isnt about the sexbots gaining sentience
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Yasujiro Ozu - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:27:44 EST ID:SXI/TOhM No.400448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400436
>implying the whole of the show isnt about "sentience" being an illusion
Daily reminder that there is zero scientific evidence for free will and rapidly growing swath of evidence against it.
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Jack Deth - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:29:12 EST ID:yV3ximT+ No.400457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400448
sentience and free will methinks
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Dr. Gregory House - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 01:42:26 EST ID:7ktjRlcO No.400473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400448
the illusion is real, sam.
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Billy Madison - Wed, 18 Jul 2018 10:57:47 EST ID:fwKsRaPt No.400488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>400421

You're a fucking dumbass and your shit's all retarded. Can you actually imagine people other than strawmen existing?
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Charlie Chaplin - Fri, 03 Aug 2018 06:09:14 EST ID:334WeAdJ No.401087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but seriously they are going to do a Jurassic world crossover er and televisions will bleed


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