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Wilders lost big time; European alt-right on life support by Shitting Trotway - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 05:04:15 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156712 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-netherlands-election-open-idUSKBN16M0MB

Don't go to the future's /pol/ right now, they're pretty suicidal right now.

>Dutch center-right Prime Minister Mark Rutte fought off the challenge of anti-Islam and anti-EU rival Geert Wilders to score an election victory that was hailed across Europe on Thursday by governments facing a rising wave of nationalism.

>The euro gained as the results of Wednesday's vote showed a clear win for Rutte, albeit with fewer seats than in the last parliament.

>He declared it an "evening in which the Netherlands, after Brexit, after the American elections, said 'stop' to the wrong kind of populism."

>The result was a disappointment for Wilders, who had led in opinion polls until late in the campaign and had hoped to pull off an anti-establishment triumph in the first of three key elections in the European Union this year.

And to keep everything on topic for 420chan, HUGE GAINS for drugs legalization parties. We might see a country-wide legalization-and-taxation of cannabis soon. Oh yes brother.
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Reuben Senningtig - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:21:11 EST ID:O+Tn+tk4 No.156788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156751

>I don't really favor either side because I feel that politics is mostly about who gets to obtain the most money. And I don't think that opinion is inaccurate.

Distributing resources towards different things is literally what politics is all about, and the prime function of any government. Unless I misunderstood your post, you're pretty much saying something analogous to: "I consider myself a sailor but I don't really favour sailing because I feel that sailing is mostly about going from A to B in a sailboat on a large body of water".

nb
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Samuel Ninkinpune - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:54:14 EST ID:HMEEQJnF No.156793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156788

I meant in terms of personal wealth.
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Ian Meddleford - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:48:25 EST ID:4S8JJgkK No.156982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156753
I remember the mainstream media just shitting on this nonstop
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Nathaniel Blytheson - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:33:34 EST ID:mM9fZu54 No.157004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156982
Yeah, the British public are generally quite shockingly oblivious to just how deeply entrenched the establishment narrative is in their media, especially the BBC.
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Edwin Brumblehitch - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 08:54:51 EST ID:4S8JJgkK No.157006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157004
The BBC have been establishment shills for the goverment ever since the Iraq Dossier scandal


Magnitsky lawyer injured after 'falling' from building near Moscow by Freedom Wizard - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:06:24 EST ID:qetGCKL9 No.156856 Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39347461

>A lawyer for the family of Sergei Magnitsky, the lawyer whose death in 2009 sparked a crisis between Russia and the West, has been badly injured.

>Russian media say Nikolai Gorokhov fell from the fourth floor when a rope snapped as he and others tried to lift a bath into his house near Moscow.

>He was flown to hospital by helicopter, a medical source was quoted as saying.

>However, British businessman Bill Browder, for whom Mr Magnitsky worked, said he had been "thrown".

(Normally I don't add anything to the articles, but this is a special case. Nikolai was a special witness in the ongoing investigation on the Trump administration and alleged ties to the Russian government.)
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Sophie Bablingbare - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 07:34:40 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cheeki breeki, I wonder who could be behind this...
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Hannah Beddleham - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:10:22 EST ID:zjyFdAn2 No.156920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156864
The Greeks.
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Nicholas Pammlefock - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 02:07:06 EST ID:V73bHX6y No.156980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nothing to see here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/world/europe/a-russian-critic-of-putin-is-assassinated-in-ukraine.html?_r=0
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Shitting Nondleshaw - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 04:41:05 EST ID:i/6YcofB No.157003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156980
Wondering if the assassin really died later of his head wound.
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Shit Penderbanks - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 07:58:11 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And Russian opposition leader Navalny just got arrested in Moscow. Just a busy week in Russia, or is Putin's control slipping?


Canadian House of Commons has passed M-103 by Angus Bunwill - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:51:07 EST ID:aL0M3++b No.156991 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A non-binding motion condemning Islamophobia and religious discrimination.

Khalid's motion calls on the government to do three things:
Condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination.
Quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear.
Compel the Commons heritage committee to develop a government-wide approach for reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination, including Islamophobia.

Liberals rejected an attempt by Saskatchewan Conservative MP David Anderson to remove the word "Islamophobia​" from the motion and change the wording to "condemn all forms of systemic racism, religious intolerance and discrimination of Muslims, Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Hindus and other religious communities.
Anderson argued Islamophobia was not defined in Khalid's motion, and that its inclusion contributed to widespread confusion and fears about the effect on freedom of speech.

A survey published Thursday by the Angus Reid Institute suggests that 42 per cent of Canadians would vote against the motion, while just 29 per cent would vote in favour of it. About two-thirds of Conservative voters were against M-103

www.cbc.ca/news/politics/m-103-islamophobia-motion-vote-1.4038016
http://globalnews.ca/news/3330776/anti-islamophobia-motion-m-103-approved/
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Rebecca Brablingbedge - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:13:51 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.156997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156994
It's a non-binding resolution that affects literally nothing, political dick waving.
I've explained this to OP in /pol/ several times, but he is very protective of his ignorance and it doesn't seem to have gotten through.
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Edward Crummlehall - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 20:08:54 EST ID:O+Tn+tk4 No.156998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156997

It's not like they care. OP isn't here to have a discussion. OP is here to proselytize on behalf of Orangeface Smallhands.
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Nicholas Mundleway - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:04:25 EST ID:NSHJykeG No.157000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156998
Oh jesus christ you're the one going there.

So it doesn't concern anyone the direction the government is setting for itself with this non binding resolution? Its not like non-binding doesn't actually mean nothing, it shows the intentions of the government which might come through future binding legislation.
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Oliver Murdford - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:13:05 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157000
Not really. There's been a tonne of non-binding resolutions passed that didn't lead to anything. I think there were 3 about abortion, and Canada still has some of the most open abortion laws in the world.
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Edward Crummlehall - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:46:09 EST ID:O+Tn+tk4 No.157002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157000

>Oh jesus christ you're the one going there.

I don't even like Islam. I'm "going there" not because I disagree with OP, but because OP is literally here to proselytize because he's made two almost identical threads on /pol/ and /n/ praising a speech Trump made and shitposting angrily on /pol/ at people who made fun of Trump.

I'm 99% certain that he's someone from either cripplechan or 4dicks and that he's here to spread a message, not to have an earnest discussion.


POTUS address, cool stuff by Angus Bunwill - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:23:18 EST ID:aL0M3++b No.156990 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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President Trump Weekly Address 3/25/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GArzzBiJy-E
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Charlotte Genderlog - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:32:05 EST ID:O+Tn+tk4 No.156996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>shilling this hard

Go back to cripplechan.

nb
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Priscilla Govingwater - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 20:24:43 EST ID:Il6+YHGF No.156999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The same thread with the exact same image got shot down on /pol/ so you try again over here? Pathetic. Bad (or sick) guy.


State of Europe part 3: Explosive Diversity by Emma Perringfield - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:17:15 EST ID:kAKFAdeT No.153763 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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All seven police regions miss the goal of improved investigation results.

>The acute crisis in the police is shown by a falling number of solved cases, longer response times and an increased number of police officers who are leaving the job.

We can now present figures showing that the police in modern times has never produced so few criminal investigations as in 2016.

Between January and October the number of investigations forwarded to prosecutors fell to 120,015. That's a decline of 11,875 investigations or 9 percentage points compared with the corresponding period of 2015. 131,890 inquiries - also a record low at the time.

Worst results show Stockholm Region and South Region. Here, investigation results fell by a full 13 percent compared with last year. According to the Chief of Police the main reason is the wave of unsolved murders and attempted murders needing to be prioritized.

"The heavy, serious crime, we have to prioritize. We can not put a murder aside, comments Eliasson."

http://archive.is/3ASvy
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/polisresultaten-rasar-allt-djupare/
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Edward Turveyhall - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 03:43:42 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Europe NEEDS 6 million more immigrants, even among record rates of unemployment, says European Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos.

>"The 27 will need 6 million immigrants in the future," says the European Commissioner. "We will open offices in all countries on the southern shore of the Mediterranean and in West Africa. This is the best way to fight smugglers. Obviously, we are not going to just open the borders and let everybody in. This would be absurd and would only feed xenophobia, nationalism and populism. Having said that, we must protect the persecuted and treat everyone with dignity. "

http://www.tdg.ch/monde/L-Europe-va-avoir-besoin-de-6millions-dimmigres/story/19455815
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Esther Fubbledale - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 07:56:13 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sweden importing camels so Somalis will have jobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnhrMj9WV_o
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Esther Fubbledale - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 10:04:40 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156714
Just realised I forgot muh links, nb
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6teborg/miljonbidrag-till-kamelturism-och-mj%C3%B6lk-1.4150581
>There is a huge interest in camels both in Sweden and abroad. We expect tourists from around the world, including from Japan and China, says Géza Nagy also has other plans on revenues

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%C3%B6teborg/trumpfans-h%C3%A5nar-sverige-med-kameler-1.4175644
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Charlotte Turveyforth - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:11:34 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156606
If you watch the vid you'll see they don't have the balls to actually fight the police. They are mostly just being obnoxious.
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Angus Bunwill - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:17:03 EST ID:aL0M3++b No.156989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/03/24/shooting-in-northern-france-injures-three
http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/24/at-least-three-injured-in-mass-shooting-in-lille-6532551/
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/three-injured-during-metro-shooting-in-lille-c59x8hmbq
Shooting in northern France injures three


RELIGION OF PEACE IN LONDON by Nigel Gobblespear - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:01:27 EST ID:jeFHkQGq No.156866 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>2 assailants in an SUV mow down 5 people on Westminster Bridge
>Police Officer is stabbed
>One runs through the gates of parliament waving a knife
>Multiple shots fired

Sky news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
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Beatrice Pickgold - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 16:01:12 EST ID:v8zpvXUn No.156974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156969
Imo, Christianity and Judaism is the exact same as Islam. Largely the same prophets and teaching, the same exact god, etc.
It's all fairy tale shit that can't back their claim of a divine being (that has incredible scientific and philosophical implications) with anything other than "I believe because I believe"
They base their worldview on scriptures written by retarded cavemen.
It is just ancient Scientology, they were all made up by science-fiction authors.
It's a racket and a scam. Even though I hold this view doesn't mean I respect believers any less, especially the believers I know personally.
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Jarvis Suffingmedging - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:16:18 EST ID:Ph16Cv1t No.156985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/europe/belgium-antwerp-car-intercepted/
Belgians thwart car attack day after terror strikes London.
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Jarvis Suffingmedging - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:22:20 EST ID:Ph16Cv1t No.156986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156974
Islam should be banned in Europe. It has no compatibility with secular democratic nations.
>Imo, Christianity and Judaism is the exact same as Islam. Largely the same prophets and teaching, the same exact god, etc.
Wrong.
Read the hadiths and the sira too.
https://boards.420chan.org/n/src/1480800531109.png
Compare the prophets and there is no question.
Mohammed was a warlord genocidal pedo.
jesus beat up a few coin lenders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGE2eBUdlQ
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Lydia Misslesare - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:10:52 EST ID:v8zpvXUn No.156987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156986
>Wrong
Isa (Jesus) is one of the most quoted prophets in Islam. They, just like the jews trace their lineage back to Ibrahim (Abraham), except muslims stem from Ismail and the jews stem from Isak. They literally believe in the same god, the abrahamic god. Again, you fucking retard, it is not religion itself that is bad, it is a few select followers. The actions and views of a few does not represent the views of the many. Get it through your thick fucking skull.

>It has no compatibility with secular democratic nations.
No religion is "compatible" with a secular state. That's the meaning of secularism. However, the topic of freedom of religion is inherent to a secular democracy, as such Islam is perfectly compatible as long as it is not extremist.
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Nicholas Sendleson - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:46:56 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156986
It is literally the same retarded desert demon worshipping death cult. Christians, jews, muslims. All the same retarded bullshit, started because some ancient jew torched a bush on a mountain and got fucking high.


Here we go again. by Nicholas Blythecocke - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 18:08:46 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156933 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/jcc-bomb-threats.html

Remember the bomb threats that have been issued against jewish community centers around the U.S. lately?

They caught the people responsible. A dad and his son. In Israel. And they're Jews.

Wonder how long it'll take to find the Torah-Study club responsible for the cemetery vandalism haha
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Hamilton Sudgepuck - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:19:31 EST ID:05HH3Euo No.156942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156935
I can definitely say the clusterfuck of autism that is 4/8/pol hasn't helped things one bit in this regard.
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Wesley Gogglekud - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 06:26:22 EST ID:OBWIAo4y No.156946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156933

I feel bad for non Israeli Jews who have been caught up in this. No doubt there are Israelis who think if the outside world is scary enough to Jews they can inspire more immigration, so they do this fucked up shit to make it scarier.

>>156939

so say it Gew? Is this a .Gif/.gif thing?
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Nell Brimmlesudge - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:38:08 EST ID:+4rA4qEQ No.156948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Really makes you think
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Basil Pobblehood - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 03:41:31 EST ID:slQLxjTe No.156981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156948

with all those handy dandy red lines and underlines and boxes and circles i didnt have to think at all
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Jarvis Suffingmedging - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:13:48 EST ID:Ph16Cv1t No.156984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156981
target audience is facebook. nuff said.


Fukushima by Cornelius Blobblesidging - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 20:56:01 EST ID:KztxZ82A No.156662 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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All this because they were too lazy to build the water wall a few meters higher...

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/245324-cant-see-inside-fukushima-daiichi-robots-keep-dying
Tepco, the utility company tasked with overseeing cleanup and waste processing for the former Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, hit another snag this week.

Last month, we reported on new findings about Reactor #2 that showed it was far more radioactive inside than previously measured. At the time, we noted that Tepco was working on a new robot that could handle up to 73 sieverts of radiation, but the measured level of 530 sieverts vastly exceeded that tolerance.

Initial attempts to see into Reactor #2 via robotic probe have all failed. We’ve only been able to estimate contamination levels by checking the amount of interference in the video feed the robot relays. The new hardened robot built by Toshiba and meant to give Tepco a much-improved ability to survey the damage reactor died 5x faster than expected and stalled 10 feet from the grate it needed to inspect.


Tepco continues to insist it can meet a 2021 goal of beginning actual site clean-up. This will require enormous investments in the field of robotics and may require the company to create entirely new designs to ensure their hardware doesn’t die in a matter of minutes. If the company’s survey robots keep dying, how are they going to field robots that can cut and gather the nuclear fuel that melted into concrete?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR8v0tSpxKQ
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Molly Fashdale - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:58:49 EST ID:BjGlxu/T No.156790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156732
The first responders mostly bit the bullet, but there were some in the military, termed "liquidators" operating under orders that suffered heavy exposure after the situation transistion from fire response to conrainment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_liquidators

It's funny, because the kncident only directly killed about 30 to 60 people, but ruined tens of thousands, beyond maybe 50,000 and affected hundreds of thousands, which is a staggering number.
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Samuel Lightfoot - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 17:05:46 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156790
Yeah, outright death from recent radiation exposure is oddly rare in these incidents. It is the lingering shit that is the problem. The rare cancers that show up 10-20 years later or even in the next generation. Even then, some will live long lives even through long-term exposure.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-04-26/30-years-after-chernobyl-these-ukrainian-babushkas-are-still-living-their-toxic
Radioactive contamination is more like a game of Russian Roulette with cancer instead of bullets. Which makes it so fucking scary. Hell of a way to die, and as fucking random as hell.
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Ian Meddleford - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 21:14:49 EST ID:4S8JJgkK No.156976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156810
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/

Even Coal Ash is radioactive wtf?
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Nicholas Sendleson - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:04:35 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156976
Knew that for years. Yay for friends that studied physics and chemistry.
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Ebenezer Hecklechore - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 22:27:09 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156977
Yeah, I've shut up alot of anti-nuclear moonbeams with that fact.


White Privilege by Nell Brimmlesudge - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:01:16 EST ID:+4rA4qEQ No.156949 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Middle-age white Americans with limited education are increasingly dying younger, on average, than other middle-age U.S. adults, a trend driven by their dwindling economic opportunities, research by two Princeton University economists has found.

Since 1999, white men and women ages 45 through 54 have endured a sharp increase in "deaths of despair," Case and Deaton found in their earlier work. These include suicides, drug overdoses, and alcohol-related deaths such as liver failure.

"It's not just their careers that have gone down the tubes, but their marriage prospects, their ability to raise children," said Deaton, who won the Nobel prize in economics in 2015 for his long-standing work on solutions to poverty. "That's the kind of thing that can lead people to despair."

>The data is clear, though: In 1999, the death rate for high school-educated whites ages 50 through 54 was 30 percent lower than the death rate for all African-Americans in that age group. By 2015, it was 30 percent higher.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtrending/why-a-lack-of-education-raises-death-risk-for-some-americans/ar-BByDtAi?OCID=ansmsnnews11
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Albert Tillingbury - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:36:11 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah good to know.

Trump will certainly give those poor people their lives back when he takes back thr jobs stolen from us by the robots and automatization and hahahahah who am I kidding, thry are fucked and they will stay fucked because they are motherfucking obsolete.

If they want a humane life, they might want to vote for a party that champions basic income, robot/automatization taxes, etc. Oh who am I kidding, the combination of technology and social-democratic themes will never work in the USA.
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Wesley Gogglekud - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:50:55 EST ID:OBWIAo4y No.156972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156954

It'll work in whatever countries the US breaks apart into though. Well, except for the new south.
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Charles Gemblechad - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 18:11:35 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156972
>Implying they don't already run us...
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Nicholas Pammlefock - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:59:57 EST ID:V73bHX6y No.156979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156951
Let's face it. You weren't planning on leaving mom's basement anyway.
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Sidney Facklebuck - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:22:04 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.156983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156979
I'm an electrical apprentice but sweet meme you sure showed me.


Ukraine threatens to ban handicapped singer from Eurovision for performing in Crimea by Nell Nullychit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:23:07 EST ID:Zxl3/gqr No.156801 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/mar/13/russia-strikes-provocative-note-for-eurovision-in-ukraine

Ukraine threatens to ban a handicapped Russian singer from Eurovision for performing in Crimea and possibly having a different opinion from Poroshenko on Crimea.

The fuck happened to Eurovision not being political though? I can't understand why the majority of governments in Europe and America would choose to support this fucked up government when it is both the most corrupt, the poorest, and likely one of the least democratic countries in all of Europe
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William Bledgedock - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 16:37:22 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156918
>
Chechnya didn't have any referendum, it tried to secede by using military force. No shit that Russia would use military force in return, with their reasoning being that Chechen terrorists are trying to revolt against the government. Something like what Ukraine is doing to Donbass, which is also trying to secede using military means.

That's exactly what happened though. Crimea had UDI just like Chechnya did in 91, and then AFTER had the referendum to join Russia.
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Martha Crennerhune - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 16:44:16 EST ID:8jUZ10Vm No.156931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156918
chechnya would never be allowed to have a referendum. and military force was absolutely used in crimea. also lol @ you thinking the referendum in crimea was legit.

>Ukrainians were also white. So any "white nationalist tactics" wouldn't work here.
are you actually this dumb? same tactics, different demographic divisions. derp.

>Well that's honestly a blurry line
exactly. interesting people like you or putin will always choose a line that's convenient/politically expedient. mayhe instead we should just honor treaties and border agreements. oh wait, nm, that wouldn't be convenient for you/russia. silly me.

>utility scarcity
>ehhh
>that disproves my point so i'm going to let it slide
of course you will.

>True
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Fuck Secklesturk - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:21:17 EST ID:Vvj3tJl7 No.156950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156930

As far as I can see the Chechen conflict's history is something like: Chechnya secedes in 91, Yeltsin tries to get the territory back by force, fails miserably, and Chechnya is independent for a while. A few years later, the independent government and the region are in absolute shambles and terrorists, kidnappers, etc are running all over the place. The Kremlin's envoy, a general, is kidnapped by Chechen terrorists (to be murdered later), 4 British engineers are kidnapped and murdered by Chechen terrorists, and basically kidnapping became the independent nation's primary source of income. This pissed off everyone internationally, especially Russia, and Yeltsin started the Second Chechen War with Putin finishing it. Honestly I think Chechnya is better off being part of Russia, and today they think so as well. For the most part, people don't care about politics, they just want to live normally.

But here's the main difference: Crimea seceded and joined the Russian Federation for protection in response to the revolution in Ukraine. Chechnya seceded because of nationalism and the will to start their own nation. They had sovereignty for a while and blew it.

>>156931

Unless you have proof that Crimea's referendum wasn't real, your statement is basically just words.

>same "white nationalist" tactics, different demographic divisions.

they weren't tactics, they were reasons. You're telling me that just because white nationalists happened to use the same reasoning (protecting our niggas abroad from an unstable political situation), that no one else should ever use that reasoning? What the fuck?

And the utility scarcity thing doesn't completely disprove my point, I was saying that while that's true, it's temporary. They decided that that's a lot better than having Poroshenko as president, which many Ukrainians themselves happen to agree with if you saw his approval ratings. Do you think I'm just some kind of contrarian? I'm trying to learn from this discussion too you know.
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Wesley Gogglekud - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 15:56:15 EST ID:OBWIAo4y No.156973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156918
>Slavs are white
>ever

lol nb
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Barnaby Tootspear - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:06:45 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.156995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156950
>97% "join" vote
>123% voter turnout
>assuming it's legit
okay, you have to be either a shill or a troll. besides, if that "counts," then that means any unilateral secession referendum must be accepted. do you understand how insane that would make the world?

>I NOW DECLARE MY HOME IT'S OWN COUNTRY YIPPEEEEEE!!!!! CRIMEA DID IT SO CAN I!!!!!

and yes, they are tactics. russia drummed up BS/wildly exaggerated claims of ethnic russians being attacked in order to garner domestic support in the matter. this is exactly the same schtick white nationalists are playing with the whole "white genocide" bullshit.

as to crimea being better off, it's not. all indications point crimea being poorer/worse off now. you're even backing off of this yourself (you probably googled it after you made the claim they were now in better condition than before, lol).

>sovereignty
ukrainian sovereignty, chechnyan sovereignty.
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Vault 7: Wikileaks dumps CIA hacking materials by Augustus Disslekure - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 13:15:30 EST ID:hVJLEOjs No.156494 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/

>Today, Tuesday 7 March 2017, WikiLeaks begins its new series of leaks on the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. Code-named "Vault 7" by WikiLeaks, it is the largest ever publication of confidential documents on the agency.

>The first full part of the series, "Year Zero", comprises 8,761 documents and files from an isolated, high-security network situated inside the CIA's Center for Cyber Intelligence in Langley, Virgina. It follows an introductory disclosure last month of CIA targeting French political parties and candidates in the lead up to the 2012 presidential election.

>Recently, the CIA lost control of the majority of its hacking arsenal including malware, viruses, trojans, weaponized "zero day" exploits, malware remote control systems and associated documentation. This extraordinary collection, which amounts to more than several hundred million lines of code, gives its possessor the entire hacking capacity of the CIA. The archive appears to have been circulated among former U.S. government hackers and contractors in an unauthorized manner, one of whom has provided WikiLeaks with portions of the archive.

>"Year Zero" introduces the scope and direction of the CIA's global covert hacking program, its malware arsenal and dozens of "zero day" weaponized exploits against a wide range of U.S. and European company products, include Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert microphones.

>Since 2001 the CIA has gained political and budgetary preeminence over the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). The CIA found itself building not just its now infamous drone fleet, but a very different type of covert, globe-spanning force — its own substantial fleet of hackers. The agency's hacking division freed it from having to disclose its often controversial operations to the NSA (its primary bureaucratic rival) in order to draw on the NSA's hacking capacities.

>By the end of 2016, the CIA's hacking division, which formally falls under the agency's Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI), had over 5000 registered …
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Nicholas Blythecocke - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 19:27:45 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156823

>Why should I believe this?

Because it is demonstrably true.

>I'm not made safer when they overthrow governments. I am put in more danger by people who now have legitimate reasons to resent the country whose government I live under and now have more reason to try to blow up the subway when I'm in it.

And that's a shame, but the CIA doesn't do that unilaterally, they do it on instructions from presidents. Again, this goes back to the CIA being a tool.

>Uh, no, I'm caught up in thinking about this like any thinking person should be thinking about it, and that's in terms of what's good for humanity and doesn't lead to the murder of innocent civilians and the propping up of totalitarian regimes for the sake of the twisted chess games of some dork in a suit in the Pentagon who decided that some more poor foreign people had to die for the profits of the United Fruit company or Halliburton or Exxon Mobile, among other spurious reasons.

The way to stop that isn't to destroy the CIA or to blame them, it's to hold presidential administrations accountable for the orders they issue to the CIA and other agencies. We shouldn't be blaming the tool for how it's used, we should be blaming the people using it.

Also, refusing to recognize foreign intelligence services threats to your country doesn't help poor foreign people abroad from dying, it just makes you less safe.
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Albert Hamblestone - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:23:46 EST ID:5ESauQlJ No.156940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156936

>Because it is demonstrably true.

Okay, demonstrate it then.
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Charlotte Seffingwot - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 00:03:34 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156940

Well that's easy. Here's one example, easy to find and fairly recent. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/technology/yahoo-hack-indictment.html

I suppose now you're going to explain how breaking into the records of an American company and stealing the information of who knows how many Americans doesn't count.

Oh, here's another!
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-we-arrested-a-russian-spy-in-the-bronx-2015-1

And another!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

I could do this all day, the fact is that the FSB actively and continuously tries to penetrate the U.S. government, U.S. companies, etc for the purposes of espionage. You can pretend they don't all day long, but thank Christ that your ideas aren't taken into account as part of this countries national security or counterintelligence policies.
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Hugh Hublingdock - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 04:45:23 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156943
your first example ended up being a PR stunt riding on the back of the russian hacker fad. Yahoo hacked them selves. Or that was another email provider that did that. either way. Vault 7 shows government info groups have the ability to leave faked evidence during system intrusions. but bitch please you don't need wikileaks or the CIA to tell you that. Should be basic learning for internet people.
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Wesley Gogglekud - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 05:59:14 EST ID:OBWIAo4y No.156945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156936
>>156943

The most troubling aspect to me is that foreign or domestic, these clandestine organizations are still staffed by people, who interpret shit wrong and fuck shit up.
Even if our intentions were good, there's always the chance we could get Harry Tuttle'd like that one guy from Poland who got black bagged and hauled off to Macedonia because they thought he was someone else And out intentions are fucked.
One day we'll be walking down the street and we'll get pulled into an alley and dosed with polonium because we get mistakenly identified as a blogger who was critical of someone. And that's just something that can happen now like heart disease or touching the wrong kind of caterpillar


FBI confirms Russia investgation. by Thomas Focklefield - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:54:29 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156798 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-russian-interference-james-comey-fbi-1.4032345

Second part of the double whammy for Trump, FBI said there is zero evidence to his wiretapping claim.

Dominoes falling for Trump?
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Jarvis Femmerway - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:03:11 EST ID:i2SzqmZt No.156855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156834
God damn there are a lot of stupid people out there.

I've said this a few times but we really should have been forced to take a "principles of journalism" class or something like that.
The overwhelming majority of people either a: just accept any source that looks legit as fact without checking their sources, or b: accept 'alternative' news sources as legit simply because they're not mainstream. It's a very sad state we're in when so many people are uninformed or misinformed because they just don't know how to use critical thinking when taking in information.
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Priscilla Sillermutch - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 23:56:21 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.156859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156798
Repubs still control things. Unless they decide to cannibalize, Trump will just continue being Biff Tannen.

One can only hope they do eat their own.
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Clara Furrydock - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:14:05 EST ID:5ESauQlJ No.156862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156834

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Fanny Sinnershit - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:27:46 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's the Venetians guys!
<-pic related I hear it's their leader!
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Ian Gindlewater - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:35:21 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156891
Ah. I spy what follies thou hast wrought! I am amused by your gaiety!


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