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Man gets attacked in his home by two would be robbers gets put up on murder charges by Angus Guvinghadging - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 06:32:58 EST ID:EI1TkGKO No.167329 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43639183

I really cant understand this shit.
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Nathaniel Bicklekudge - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 13:58:21 EST ID:F7sW6vBR No.167777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167766

Well said.
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Oliver Honeyford - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 01:39:15 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167774

sometimes i wish i could shoot people for walking across my yard.

nah im just joking

or am i
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Fuck Pockledale - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 07:50:21 EST ID:ZyEryNzm No.167785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167766
Yeah, and the UK law allows the homeowner to use force. They use the term "minimum restraining force" in self defense in general. There is some judgment as to "minimum" and allowances made for the situation and human error. Some terrified old blind guy can't be counted on to judge this right
>the law protected him

If you make it always wrong to hurt someone else or always right to do so though, you create a dangerous imbalance.
>the uncertain nature of a home invader's intent
Is not very uncertain. Its not hard to tell if someone is hostile. Sure you don't know exactly what they're after but it's not hard to tell if they're hostile or not. If it is clear they are hostile and you accidentally over kill them that's fine and it was fine for the old man. If it's clear they're hostile and after they retreat you keep stabbing then that's not fine. If they are clearly not hostile then again its not fine to kill. I appreciate you don't know if they just want your shit or to kill you and rape your wife and in those cases if you get it wrong and kill someone who was just threatening you to get your shit you should walk.

>and you evidently do under UK law

The line might need tweaking a bit. Its somewhere after "they enter your house without permission" and before "You are certain they want to kill you". I'd say as soon as they show hostile intent force is required. If they retreat or cease that intent force becomes no longer allowed. You should not be trying to kill them but if they die in your attempt to preserve yourself that's fine. Aiming to disable your hostile intruder and accidentally killing them isn't the same as aiming to kill them and killing them.
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Cornelius Singerwell - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:14:05 EST ID:EI1TkGKO No.167786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167785
A few years back a neighbor shot and killed a man who entered his home and was running off with stolen weaponry. He was arrested and charged for chasing the man, even though the man had a gun and could potentially harm anyone right then and there. He was firing back at the homeowner chasing him.

These issues are complicated as fuck
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Cornelius Surringridge - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:37:21 EST ID:ZyEryNzm No.167802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167786
In which country and most importantly what did he get charged and sentenced for? Just saying "a neighbour" and "it's complicated" is a cop out. Also by "charged" do you mean "convicted"? These are pretty important details.

I googled UK examples and I found a guy who shoot someone in self defense and went to jail for possession of a shotgun without a certificate for 10 months and ONLY that. And Tony Martin (he's got a wikipedia page) which is a can of worms, but nethertheless, despite intentionally killing his burglars via an ambush he got a lenient sentence which was reduced by a year and then later changed to manslaughter because he was a bit insane. That is complicated.

Neither was being shot at by their intruder.

In the UK you have to secure your gun cabinet pretty carefully to prevent burglars just taking your guns. Otherwise you might lose your weapon certificate. You have to comply with training and regular police checks. If someone jacks your guns then they were either well prepared or you fucked up badly already. In the former case that's when things really do get complex. Though if they jacked your guns how can you shoot them unless you have guns elsewhere? Ie not in your cabinet.

I think the UK system works better than any system which gives you free reign to shoot intruders or one that says you can't. Its not perfect but you know that if you kill in self defense you will probably be okay, but if you kill someone who wasn't a threat you probably won't. You don't know for certain but it'll keep you honest. I mean if you genuinely fear for your life you'll still do whatever knowing that your odds are probably a lot better than if this potential murderer isn't opposed but if you don't then you're probably not going to take what is a huge risk when your own backside isn't at stake. Again not perfect but better than the extreme solution. Requires human judgement across the board really but I think the evidence is it tends to work alright. None of the cases I've found have made me doubt that set of rules.


Raul Castro Steps Down, Successor Promises Continuity by Martha Cemmerhall - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 19:55:46 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167752 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/miguel-diaz-canel-cuba-post-castro-president-180411171136657.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/miguel-diaz-canel-elected-cuba-president-castro-era-180419133611845.html

Many of you may have read this already but today is official. Raul Castro relinquished control of the executive branch of the Cuban government. Raul has made no mention whether or not he plans to step down as general secretary of the party. Fidel maintained that position for a few years after handing control of the party to Raul. Mostly an advisory position anyways.

First time a Cuban from the post-revolutionary era will run the government. Miguel Diaz-Canel the new president was born two years after Che's and Camilio's columns liberated his hometown of Santa Clara (which was the battle that ended the war and put the communists in power.)

That's gotta be weird for a lot of people because Raul was one the original Granma expeditioners. He had fought the revolution from the beginning and was very much a continuation of his brother. Maybe this will be good though. US might be more willing to cut a deal with a man who doesn't have the last name Castro.

Canel has appearently lobbied for race, LGBT, and disabled rights in Cuba in the past. In that respect he does sound like a social reformer. Definitely sounds like a proper communist though.

Yo soy Fidel
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Charlotte Chiddlelotch - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 20:17:08 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167753
Hereditary dynasty? lol it's a single generation

Raul was only ever there to transition from Fidel. Fidel ran the country for almost 50 years. Americans for some reason find it impossible to believe that Cubans really did love Fidel that much and were terrified of a post-castro era. Castro and Che are damn near venerated as saints in Cuba no one's been in a hurry to see change.

Cubans fucking laugh at Americans. They immigrate here because they're guaranteed resettlement money. After a couple years and they run out of govt money, they pack their shit and go back to Cubs where food, housing, healthcare are guaranteed regardless of employment. Why would anyone want to end that set up?

Cuban "dissidents" are a few hundred obese Americans sunbathing on the panhandle that are pissed off Castro seized their ancestors massive exploitive plantations.
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Clara Gazzlestone - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 20:28:16 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167756

uhhh yep i agree with all of that. still good for rule of a nation to move outside a single family.
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Clara Cloblinghot - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 12:44:58 EST ID:bpi0jG+r No.167775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167756
Miami is not the in the panhandle

Everything else you said is spot on.
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Betsy Cruddlefoot - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 15:04:00 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167775
Oh shit, thought a panhandle was surrounded by water on three sides. My bad.
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Shitting Dicklestone - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 01:30:31 EST ID:yHPjbuhS No.167795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167787
panhandle is a feature on a map whereas peninsula is a landform. The FL panhandle happens to be the one region of Florida that is not part of the Florida peninsula
nb and also good post


Frontline had an interesting doc on McCain tonight by Nell Trotforth - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:55:03 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167700 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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First part is somewhat boring but the second part covers all of the 08 election. It's interesting how they trace McCains picking of Sarah Palin as the turning point of the party as it marked the start of Trump's populist wing infiltrating the party. Basically tracing the rise of Palin to the election of Trump.

If you're interested
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/mccain/
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Sophie Pudgeston - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:06:18 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167700
Yeah. The Republicans allowed themselves to be coopted by the tea party on a national level, and radical conservative politics became mainstream.

If we're being honest with ourselves though, this all started in 08-09 when conservatives, taking money and agenda talking points from the ultra rich like the Koch brothers, just couldn't handle a black man being president.
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James Sonderhall - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 01:17:18 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.167706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167704
It's not that the billionaires couldn't handle being president, it's that they knew there was a sizable demographic in the country that could be mobilized to help get politicians favorable to them elected by using the "I want my America back" talking point.

I think it's all best summed up by the whole Glenn Beck scandal where he told these people the sky was falling because the president was a black nazi coming for white people and that the only way to survive to post-apocalypse was to buy gold bullion from him at inflated prices at a time when cash for gold which had ads on the same station was tanking the gold market and wholesale prices were actually falling and to horde it because when society collapses supermarkets will still be functional, but they'll only take shiny metal ingots. I feel like he is often forgotten about in retrospect but he was the face of fox news in the late 00's and had a major hand in the tea party movement as well, although I guess that's just a fancy way of saying "Roger Ales Mouth Piece".
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Basil Sapperbotch - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:12:36 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.167719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167706
Whatever happened to Beck? Last I heard he was hanging on by a thread down in Flori-duh and trying to get people to subscribe to his fake news circlejerks...
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James Sonderhall - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:20:47 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.167722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167719
For as weird as Glenn was, he stood by his crazy ass convictions and denounced Trump during the '16 election on the grounds that as a Christian he couldn't support a vulgar open philanderer.
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Nell Trotforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:00:26 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167719
Beck actually started out on CNN. He was the conservative show on HLN and back then he was a somewhat orthodox libertarian mostly shilling for Ron Paul. Fox News at one point made him an offer CNN wouldn't match so he jumped ship and damn near took over Fox in the process. When he moved to Fox was when his Christian fundamentalist side became public and his views started moving away from libertarianism.

After Fox got tired of Beck, Beck went off and created his own television network 'The Blaze', the channel used to be carried by both Direct and Dish. Not sure if it still is but the channel had fairly wide distribution for a while. He's got a tie in website and broadcasts his channel over the internet too. I believe he's still doing that.

The Blaze is how that bitch Tomi Lahren became famous. Ugly little white twig bitch that likes trolling hip hop artists to get attention from black men. She's a rural red state fundamentalist Christian and her boyfriend is some huge black guy. I find it pretty lol. She sued Beck for wrongful termination but Im not sure what came of the lawsuit.


TSA begins testing fingerprint check-ins at two US airports by Eliza Bundock - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 09:34:47 EST ID:uMj6Zjlu No.167584 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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TSA begins testing fingerprint check-ins at two US airports

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-begins-testing-fingerprint-check-082000663.html
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Reason: Thinly veiled /pol/ thread. Stop with this sort of wank.
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Rebecca Hassleded - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:44:06 EST ID:xdmTIq9E No.167666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167662
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Walter Soddlebon - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:17:30 EST ID:tdIrVP5R No.167667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If the US was free, peaceful, had a booming economy, had a balanced budget, had sound money, had safe streets, had no minimum wage, and taxes imposed by all levels of government took less than 10% of our income in the past, are Americans happier now that the USA is a police state, at war, has a dead economy, is in debt, has a minimum wage, and high taxes?
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Alice Bummlewan - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:55:52 EST ID:DTJRk/wK No.167668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167659
>http://undergroundnotes.com/index.htm

Lol shitwhat the fuck
Are you for real? I haven't seen a site that ugly since 1995
Not to forget the vomit inducing content
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Walter Soddlebon - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:07:49 EST ID:tdIrVP5R No.167669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Americans may see or hear about the closing stores, rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, offshoring, homosexuality, endless US wars, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm, but they're not connecting the dots that all these seemingly unrelated issues are part of the plot to destroy the USA.

Americans are so brainwashed, divided, distracted, degraded, and demoralized now that they might even think these trends are necessary and proof that the US is improving.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/03/us/alabama-death-row-inmate/index.html

https://www.srnnews.com/jimmy-carter-us-more-like-oligarchy-than-democracy/

https://www.inquisitr.com/4326878/these-nine-states-will-require-passports-for-all-domestic-air-travel-starting-in-2018/

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/20/sen-rand-paul-slams-asset-forfeiture-as-unconstitutional/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sessions-us-continue-privately-run-prisons-213647035--politics.html

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/sheriff-clarke-trump-terrorists-guantanamo-bay/
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Polly Digglehood - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:32:44 EST ID:OBWIAo4y No.167670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167667

My right to own a gun wasn't culturally enshrined because America was free, peaceful, and had safe streets in the past. Your premise is fictional, you sound like one of those Polish immigrant stereotypes where they wonder if our streets are paved with gold.


Cambrige Analytica, or Why you Should Delete Your Facebook by Esther Sunkinbone - Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:59:36 EST ID:1fIHantD No.166772 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So Cambrige Analytica. Why is there no thread about it here? We all here probably already knew how SoMe shit is completely unreliable manipulatory "information", but this case just shows the depths of the crap we've all been exposed to the last years.

This is no single company using your online profile to microtarget Yes that is a word you specifically according to your online history. This is already wide spread, Cambridge Analytica is just the one to fall first. These guys made money on using big data to specifically target potential Trump voters during the election, not necessarily by showing propaganda in their meaning yours faces, but actually push any image related to this up in your feed, be it general or commercial parts. We're talking so specific that they put Ivanka's face if you were potential sofa voter, and Trump if you were a potential actual voter.

Human nature is predictable. You'd be surprised how predictable you actually are, even when just judging from your browsing history.

Delete your Facebook account.
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Barnaby Fubblecocke - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:43:03 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167473
Yes, I think some physicists proposed that theory.
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Simon Chundlewag - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:50:42 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167434
Don't sell the gestapo short mate. Then there's the NKVD/KGB ect. Quite frankly the debate over in Vinland seems a bit behind the curve. I voted for these guys -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbxd30vo0E (and still do). Europe in general has complained about it as early as the millennium shift https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

you are making me feel old...
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Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:21:05 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167477
Not really sure what your point is. Yeah, the Gestapo existed and pioneered some of this stuff (actually I have a feeling that it might even have been primarily the British, they just never got busted), but the Stasi perfected it and are a lot more recent--only shut down in the 1990 and with a major aftermath into that decade--and are therefore much more relevant to modern German sensibilities.

I'm a Pirate Party member myself, although I have a feeling they're pretty thoroughly infiltrated and controlled in my country since they appear to be utterly retarded, ineffective and irrelevant, and a year or two ago moved their base of operations to a fucking island just to make sure nobody can actually get to their meetings.
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Molly Conningnetch - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:26:56 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167507
>Not really sure what your point is.
Yeah, my bad. I was kinda wasted when I wrote that and it shows. Sry.

My point was that the debate really should have been broached when mass-surveillance was being set up as opposed to when it's at an unremarkable point in an established trajectory. The reality is that government spying is as old as man and only very incompetent authoritarians don't make use of it (so you're probably more ok under Trump than Obama ironically).
>I have a feeling they're pretty thoroughly infiltrated and controlled in my country since they appear to be utterly retarded, ineffective and irrelevant,
Yeah, depending on where you live you have different democratic options. I'm lucky; the Swedish pirate party has turned out to both competent and quite influential in both national and EU politics. In a way they are now victims of their own success as others have copied significant parts of their original platform.
>a year or two ago moved their base of operations to a fucking island just to make sure nobody can actually get to their meetings.
lolwut? Have they explained why?
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Cornelius Decklechot - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 05:13:05 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167511
I'm sure they gave some explanation. I'm sure it was lame.

Hopefully they're going to roll out the secret robots, seize control and turn it into an ocean fortress. That'd be a pretty piratical thing to do.


White House Bible Study by Clara Cuckledale - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 06:48:16 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167277 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Holy fucking christ on a cupcake. This shit fills me with rage and fury so much I am finding it hard to type coherently. Imagine the uproar if there were any other type of religious study group in the white house? Fuck christians and their stone-age thinking. Let's keep church and state separate.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43534724
https://www.sciencealert.com/trump-cabinet-bible-study-teaches-about-the-false-religion-of-radical-environmentalism

>This week's Trump Cabinet Bible study was all about the "false religion of Radical Environmentalism."

>Referencing the book of Genesis, the leader of the group, Ralph Drollinger, argued it was unbiblical to believe that man can change the environment.
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Lillian Meckleworth - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 20:05:23 EST ID:pKpNID4T No.167479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167401

>BAN SINGLE USE PLASTIC CUPS!

>OMG YOU'RE LITERALLY MUSSOLINI!
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George Dronkinshit - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:20:09 EST ID:VdSxbDnW No.167519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167277
>This shit fills me with rage and fury so much I am finding it hard to type coherently
Dude, relax.

>Imagine the uproar if there were any other type of religious study group in the white house?
They're allowed to do whatever they want. That's a part of their religious freedom. And this isn't in the white house according to the BBC article you linked to:
>Every Wednesday, some of the world's most powerful people meet in a conference room in Washington DC to learn about God.
Also they are constantly running Jewish events in the White House and nobody ever seems to complain about them.

>Let's keep church and state separate.
Doesn't mean state sponsored nihilism. According to Wikipedia,
>Drollinger is a conservative evangelical Christian who describes his belief that there should indeed be an "institutional" separation of Church and State, but that the Church should still "influence" the State.
Nothing wrong with that.

>Fuck christians and their stone-age thinking.
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Phyllis Menningkere - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:35:33 EST ID:1fIHantD No.167520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167519

You do sound kind of like a Christian.

Should we crucify him for this, folks?
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Ernest Fepperlock - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:49:51 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167519
Go fuck off and die.
Only good christian is a dead christian. Drvgs and Satan, not abstinence and Jesus.
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Nathaniel Herringham - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:52:52 EST ID:NVABe+Zf No.167523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167479
It's women's fault. They are the ones doing the consumer whoring.


UN Declared Humanitarian Crisis in the DRC by Esther Bummerdetch - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:28:48 EST ID:YV5SguIn No.167385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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SLAYER to all the homies in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. My niggas tried to get the UN to deliver aid, but that pussy president Kabila won't let it enter the country. His term ended officially in 2016, so it's no wonder he has to take such extreme measures to cling to power.

Well the UN has declared this shit a crisis, and I know a lot of folks are starving there (not to mention the activists being gunned down by the military and shit), so throw some love their way. The UN says $1.7 billion would be enough to solve the crisis, less than 1/400th of the US annual military budget.
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Charlotte Fobberdale - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:44:56 EST ID:1KcWuZvS No.167436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167413
>central Africa is mostly prime farming land
its not though, jungle isn't fertile, if you slash and burn you can get a few years of halfway productivity before the soil turns into sand
this is the prime soil in Africa, and even then irrigation and infrastructure are the big limiting factors
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Charlotte Fobberdale - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:47:05 EST ID:1KcWuZvS No.167437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167426
nb douple post but I forgot to add, its because there's two congo, if it bugs you call them Congo-Brazzaville and Congo-Kinshasa
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Ian Worthingridge - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 00:09:47 EST ID:Lmiy54A7 No.167456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167437
Did not know Angola has an enclave. You learn something new everyday. Nb
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Jenny Bopperkit - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:25:52 EST ID:GYMZ9Mfs No.167494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167456
Technically, it's an exclave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclave_and_exclave
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Jenny Bopperkit - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:27:18 EST ID:GYMZ9Mfs No.167495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167494
*semi-exclave
Oi how embarassing
nb


Saudi crown prince says Israelis and Palestinians all have right to their own land by Pyramid King NetJester - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:27:17 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167118 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://nos.nl/artikel/2225595-saudische-kroonprins-israeliers-hebben-recht-op-eigen-land.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-prince-israel/saudi-crown-prince-says-israelis-have-right-to-their-own-land-idUSKCN1H91SQ

Basically, the Saudi crown prince said that both Israelis and Palestinians all have right to live in Israel/Palestine. Probably so he can buddy up with Israel while keeping support from the Palestinians because well, Israel and Saudi Arabia both hate Iran and the enemy of my enemy is my friend, sort of?
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Charles Purrybanks - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:08:03 EST ID:qGAVHluK No.167379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167276
this fucking pic.. ha
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Esther Bummerdetch - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:42:30 EST ID:YV5SguIn No.167387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You shouldn't be so surprised OP. The Saudi and Israeli regimes have never gotten along. I mean Israel has been a land of strife and war for a long ass time, like over 1,000 years. The Arab-Israeli conflict is epitomized by the struggle between the Palestinians and their Israeli prison guards, so it is expected than an Arab Saudi prince might show some support for the Arab cause. What I find the most unusual among it all, is that the US is allied with both Israel and Saudi Arabia.

But also what you said about Iran. USA, Saudi Arabia, and Israel all hate the shit out of Iran. It's a bit of a disappointment to see things devolve into mod shaming, but damn I do love that Steve pic.
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Jarvis Summletene - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:36:07 EST ID:zN/wnRVh No.167417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167387

>What I find the most unusual among it all, is that the US is allied with both Israel and Saudi Arabia.

It's not that unusual. The goal isn't to have a coherent (or moral) foreign policy, but to have a foreign policy that gives you what you want. I.e., an alliance with the Saudis to secure the supply of oil and keep the oil prices low, and an alliance with Israel to placate certain voter/lobby groups in the U.S., plus military/intelligence cooperation in the war against terror.
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Fuck Drennerstone - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:42:32 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167417
Well, that, and understanding the history of the region might help. Both the Sauds and Israel were established by Western European colonial forces, in particular the English, of which the US is obviously a cultural and political extension (or relocation depending who we're talking about).

The Middle East was previously ruled by the Ottomans for a long-ass time, who by WW1 were practically ancestral enemies of the West. Both world wars were an opportunity for them to be broken up and supplanted by friendlier rulers.

Eternal war is both profitable and convenient for preventing competing interests from gaining inertia, even if it's a basically artificial duopoly.
Well, especially then, maybe.
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Hugh Pockwater - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 15:06:21 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's even more simple. Israel and the Saudis are pretty much directly allied because they both hate Iran more than each other. It was always thus in the middle east. I guess that is what you get for building a region on sand.


Trump succeeds in starting trade war by Albert Sunderchodge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:30:31 EST ID:63yG6/oA No.167158 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/04/news/economy/china-tariffs-us-goods-soybeans/index.html

Chinese are matching Trump dollar for dollar and slapping the US with another 50b in tariffs. Soybeans and automobiles both make the new list. I love how the Chinese are focusing on sectors that favored Trump in the election. They're trying to hurt Trump's base personally, I find that impressive.

Market correction will have to happen sooner or later and at this rate Trump's gonna force it before his first term is even over. Man is still an idiot.

Side note: Anyone else notice that Trump's tweets attacking Amazon started the same day as the Forbes billionaire list came out. The list where Bezos was crowned richest man and Trump dropped 200 spots from the year before? The man is so petty he's using his office to drive down Amazon's stock prices in an attempt to hurt Bezos' net worth. Trump just keeps reciting the same lie over and over again word for word. Totally insane.
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Hamilton Hollerville - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 19:35:02 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.167310 Report Quick Reply
>>167309

lol that picture is ANCIENT.
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Edwin Blatherfield - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:15:31 EST ID:xhbdlJK0 No.167313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only slightly related but has anyone here ever been to /pol/?

I was fucking amazed when I visited /pol/, it was this black hole of stupid and inarticulate opinions with NO basis in fact. If you spend an hour there you'll feel like Jane Goodall living with the apes. If you link any facts or reputable sources they think it's a conspiracy and you're a paid shill from some liberal thinktank and you couldn't just possibly be a slightly-well-informed person.
Even looking at them talk about their opinion to each other it's retarded...I honestly didn't know there were groups of people that stupid.
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Doris Fobbledut - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:43:31 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167313

thats why they deleted it lol
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Molly Bundale - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 00:21:52 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167314
I was referring to 4chins /pol/...they're animals
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Sophie Fonningdock - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 14:36:21 EST ID:IDIVP7Xv No.167344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167326
our /pol/ wasn't that bad.

but yeah, I agree that 4chin's /pol/ posts are predominantly some of the biggest dingbats i've ever seen...and yet they think they're invincible from criticism through the "its just a joke, braugh" defense.

I always smile whenever they get BTFO.


Cops caught lying again by Emma Snodbanks - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 04:43:17 EST ID:63yG6/oA No.167028 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So first they said he had a gun, then they walked that back and said he had a crowbar, then finally they admitted he only had a cellphone. Now it turns out Clark wasn't "approaching them menacingly" when they opened fire as all of the bullet wounds were either in Clark's back or the one on his side. Appearently it took Stephon several minutes to die, if cops had begun life saving procedures immediately (as they're all trained for) Clark might have lived. He wasn't breaking into houses either like they originally claimed, that was his grandmother's back yard. Did I mention yet they turned off the audio to their body cams immediately following the shooting? Oh and minor detail but they fired over 20 shots and only hit the target 8 times, so that means those two cops let 12+ stray bullets fly.

These cops probably won't even stand trial.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/30/us/sacramento-stephon-clark-autopsy/index.html
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:15:08 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167275
>that's really your first reaction to someone discussing police brutality? "YEAH THOSE DEMS RABBLE RABBLE"
No, if you go back and read the post I replied to he was talking about the viability of meaningful justice reform in the US. My point was that it's not likely because the party that's SUPPOSED to represent the poor doesn't give a single fuck about it. And where the fuck did I say I voted Republican? I've been an insurrectionary anarchist over a decade now. You're the fucking idiot.
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:21:07 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167283
Both the poster I was replying to as well as myself were referring to criminal justice in the US specifically so I'm not sure what your first paragraph has to do with anything.

>Second paragraph
>blah blah blah I'ma accuse an anarchist of American brainwashing
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Priscilla Biffingwill - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:51:02 EST ID:zvAwKaKv No.167340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167319
>>forever a decade now

Birth name,Date of birth, social, ethnicity, scars and tattoos? jw for a school project.
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Phyllis Shittingville - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 01:22:13 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167320
> I'm not sure what your first paragraph has to do with anything.
I suppose it's possible that you're retarded, which isn't your fault or anything, but maybe you're operating out of your depth.
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Augustus Cenningfot - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:07:42 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167367
Oh shut the fuck up moron


Non-Trump news by Reuben Sassleshit - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:17:22 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167336 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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News unrelated to the shenanigans in the American capital.
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Thread was locked by: Celt
Reason: So I do appreciate that you did follow up with news story with a link in your second post, the rule on /n/ is that the OPs should contain that stuff. We lean away from making "generals" on /n/ because what tends to happen is major stories get lost and go unseen when shoved into generals. We also tend to see people go way off topics in generals, whereas as clear cut OPs seem to keep the discussion on point.
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Reuben Sassleshit - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 10:20:35 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43645676
So while Finland explores universal basic income and the Norwegians experiment with the worlds most humane prison what does Sweden do? We take the bold step of becoming the worlds cashless society which seems to mainly consist of getting rid of ATMs and pissing everyone off. Srsly; my grandparents and their age cohort are more than a little annoyed.


Tyranical Suicidal Dictatorial Evil Satanic US gov seizes legal website over feelings by Shit Niblingman - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:45:48 EST ID:IWg7oMJg No.167251 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-backpage-justice/sex-ads-website-backpage-shut-down-y-us-authorities-idUSKCN1HD2QP
Feds think they can play this game. They can't.
The federal government just made one of the possibly biggest missteps in a long line of recent "mistakes". They are targeting sex workers for no real reason. This is a return to puritanical standards. So thanks Donnie Boy, thanks so very much, for priming the public and continuing to prime the public, for revolution. You fat sack of shit.
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Cedric Saffingwater - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:10:58 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167259
Why the fuck would you post news on /b/ you FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOT? News belongs on /n/.

/b/ is for RANDOM posting and HIGH posting.

Are you fucking retarded or did your shitposting officer not give you the proper briefing on how to mimic a natural 420channer?
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David Callerdat - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:10:42 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167251
Why the scare quotes around mistakes? Why is Harris personally responsible?
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Charlotte Hickledit - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:11:15 EST ID:NSHJykeG No.167265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167261
Speaking of 420channer. Have u both tried smoking more and chilling out?
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Reuben Tootbanks - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 17:01:03 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.167302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167265
I suggest 20ccs of slayer...
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Angus Guvinghadging - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 04:02:50 EST ID:EI1TkGKO No.167328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167261
Post news here to discuss the philosophical and political intricacies of the story.
Post news on /b/ to talk about all the hookers you fucked on backpages during the good old days...


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