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Around 100 companies leaving UK for the Netherlands by Nathaniel Barryfield - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:06:32 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So this just popped up on the Dutch news. I'll make a quick translation summary for you guys since I doubt you guys read Dutch.

Around 100 companies with major locations in the UK are actively trying right now to move to the Netherlands, which is a lot more than Dutch economists predicted. This will be about maybe 5000-10.000 jobs, which is a huge boon to the Dutch economy.

Do keep in mind this is just companies planning on moving. This doesn't include companies that are considering moving, and companies that have locations in the UK and the Netherlands already and will increase their investments in the Netherlands and decrease it in the UK.

Mmm, feels good to know the Dutch economy is gonna grow a lot more in the coming years.
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Caroline Shakebanks - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:19:37 EST ID:L1VWkTBK No.156070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156064
O no what will Britain do without 100 small business halal carts? Their economy will surly implode.
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Nathaniel Barryfield - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:29:11 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156070
>small businesses
>potential for 10,000 jobs
>probably far more

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Cyril Pizzleville - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:49:06 EST ID:ncY+YvqW No.156074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156071
wow, better curtail democracy then
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Nathaniel Barryfield - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 17:36:11 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156074
Let's ask the Scottish what they think about English democracy.

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Shitting Buzzfuck - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 17:36:44 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.156079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156078

I chuckled
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Hamilton Forrysteck - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:05:20 EST ID:swJkxz4K No.156083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156078
touché
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Martha Goodwell - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:41:59 EST ID:FShFuqjG No.156089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156064
They will get taxed heavily trying to import to the UK then
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Walter Wonderville - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:53:53 EST ID:6MdedLC2 No.156091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The UK needs their own Donald Trump to stop these kinda shenanigans
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Sidney Fungernut - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 01:27:31 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.156102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156089
The businesses did not come to the UK to do business with the UK, they came to the UK because they UK had very favorable privileges within the EU.
If a business has to decide between the EU and UK markets, they will go with the EU 100% of the time.

If the UK tries to defend their demand via tariffs and gets into a trade war with the EU, their industry will collapse. London's entire economy depends on selling financial services to the EU.
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Martha Cligglemit - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:03:40 EST ID:7qXS5yP+ No.156114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156102
money launderer of the world. Look up james comey and the HSBC.
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William Murdville - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:22:10 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In Sweden we are trying to nab the EMA but otherwise we aren't too happy about Brexit since we trade a lot with the Brits. Ireland's got it much worse though.
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Walter Cridgetetch - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:16:16 EST ID:A0XBivOC No.156142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156089
lol who cares. the UK itself was never why they were there in the first place. they were there because it was an accessible big English speaking country with decent infrastructure in the EU that they could source other EU employees from.

i also gotta say, as someone who works around a lot of digital international business, trying to sell into the UK will be way more a pain in the ass now that we have to deal with them separately. like if it's gonna take any real amount of effort, the UK will be ignored or at least postponed the same way other large european countries outside the EU are. the UK will be like Russia in terms of priority, lol. like, "yeah, i guess an extra few percent would be nice in our sales reports, but meh" status.

the irony is that decreased economic clout also ends up meaning diminished sovereignty, ahahaha.
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Molly Mipperbit - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 10:37:34 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156142
A bunch of them still think the EU needs the UK more than visa versa. The EU being desperate for their net contribution and German car-makers seem to be the main basis of this theory. However many consider it irrelevant as they don't expect the EU to survive without their glorious presence.
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Albert Fanhood - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:19:09 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156180
The UK hardly contributed shit.

All the money the UK gave to the EU came right back to fund projects in Wales, North-Ireland and Scotland. Most of the UK is about as economically prosperous as Romania, Poland and other East-European shitheaps.
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Ebenezer Tootford - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:54:58 EST ID:1fIHantD No.156203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Meanwhile us Norwegians are fucking glad the UK didn't go for the EEA option. We're a god damned great power when it comes to non-EU countries negotiating free-trade terms because the rest are such insignificant countries.

No hard feelings, Iceland, but you know it's true bro. Fuck the british rite?
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Phyllis Pockbury - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:32:40 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156202
They were net contributors though. They're not wrong about that it's more about their distorted view of their significance.
>>156203
You could always just veto it.... but i guess they'd be angry at you then...
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Polly Cengerben - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:27:55 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156245

Of all of the distortions and misconceptions, the funniest to me is the notion among pro-brexit UK citizens that the UK will have greater negotiating power without a vote at the EU than they do with one.

If you think about it, this actually reduces their level of sovereignty due to their proximity to a powerful economic union. Now they have to comply with EU regulations in order to participate in their common market, except they no longer have representatives able to cast a vote to affect the process.

UK outside of the EU has even less power and control over its affairs than UK within the EU.
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Frederick Fuckinggold - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:33:08 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156304
YOu got to remember, these people thought somehow being out of the EU would magically bring back the Empire and the glory of Pre-WW2 England.
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Edwin Claywill - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:55:58 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156304
>the EU
>Powerful economic nation

I got five on Europe going through a name change on the map within the decade.
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Edwin Claywill - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:56:50 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156306
Sweden is no more. Germany soon to follow.
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Martha Wundlebury - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:41:02 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156306
Keep telling yourself that.
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Caroline Hozzlewit - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 23:37:48 EST ID:YDIYbgqx No.156337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156306
how old are you? do you have a job? have you ever dealt with international business?

dealing with the big economies like the US, China, or Japan are always no brainers. you kinda have to; they're too big to ignore. even if their laws/customs/trade arrangements/cultures are a pain in the ass to deal with, you do it, because you have to. you're just not going to get very far or be very competitive without them. the EU makes them on par with economies like that. without the union, we're left dealing with a bunch of small-ish countries on an individual basis (even the largest, Germany, is only like 80 million in populatio, while the UK is like 60 - Japan is like 130 million and the US is 330 million, and while Russia is like 140 million, who cares, they're poor as shit and have no money to spend other than on vodka; the EU is like 500 million with the UK ad 440 million without). When it comes time to decide which markets to go after, the abovementioned are no brainers. we kinda have to go after the US, China, Japan, and the EU, whether we like it or not. when the UK leaves the EU? meh. the UK will end up as a foot note in my presentations. just another member in the appendix section of my ppts like Russia, Brazil, and South Korea. lol congrats on your independence.

i say this as someone who's bonus depends on these sales figures. if you were to cut out the UK entirely, i honestly wouldn't give a shit. you guys aren't gonna make or break my bonus. i'd just make sure FIGS localizations are a priority going forward. you had more clout as a part of the EU than outside of it. we're even considering moving operations to the Netherlands, lol. you guys done fucked yourselves.
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Caroline Hozzlewit - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 23:52:43 EST ID:YDIYbgqx No.156338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156337
oh and hey, if there are any Norwegians reading this, you kinda got it right. because of the way you got yourselves set up with your VATs, EEA, and EFTA, we treat kinda like a de factor part of the EU without actually being part of the EU. we can kinda just brush you in with the rest of the EU without really thinking about it, so we do.

Norway will be a higher priority than the UK for us post brexit, lol.
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Esther Sankinson - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:52:20 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156338
>Europoor living in denial
>Do you even have a job?
>is like millions man
>Muh bonus

hahaha DUDE.
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Martha Wundlebury - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 04:17:24 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156339
Clearly a pro at wasting words here.
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Caroline Dedgepeck - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 09:39:13 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.156357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156339
>literally responding with just:
>hahaha DUDE.
wow. PS I'm American. seriously, answer the question. you ever deal with international commerce? i'm even more certain now that you're like in your teens and have no idea how the world works.
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Archie Lightlock - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:37:40 EST ID:HpONx2vd No.156358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156339
>'localizations' with a Z
>assuming he's European

hahaha DUDE.
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Molly Benninglock - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:45:22 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156339
The irony of that image is that after brexit Westminster elites will need a bunch of non-European immigrants to keep their economic model going.
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Molly Benninglock - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:54:59 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Btw; since Brexit hasn't seemed complicated enough apparently the worlds largest civilian storage of plutonium has to be sorted out as well. The Norks must be so fuckin jealous, lol.
https://www.ft.com/content/9b99159e-ff2a-11e6-96f8-3700c5664d30
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David Wendlestotch - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:58:48 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156367
That's why the plan is to bring in 100 million Pakistanis in the next three years!
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Lillian Duckcocke - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:40:22 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156373
They are commonwealth though so obviously loyal to the queen.

Seriously though; the fine print on this thing will be amazing. Everything from nuclear energy to where airplanes can fly to how much the UK's share of the wine cellar is. Its like a divorce between two siamese idiot-savant lawyer twins.
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Barnaby Clillyway - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 16:17:03 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156374
>Its like a divorce between two siamese idiot-savant lawyer twins.

You should write the Economist.
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Simon Mepperforth - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:25:23 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156408
I'm not entirely sure that that is a compliment but I stand by my allegory. Fundamentally altering the legal basis of anything tends to create numerous unexpected problems. Brexit drastically alters the status quo and more than half-a-year later new problems are emerging.
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Barnaby Deshfuck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:21:48 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156469
Talking about nuclear energy, I wonder how much the French will hike up energy prices to the UK after the Brexit.

The English powerplants cannot handle the energy needed around tea time, when millions of English turn on their water cookers. So they buy power in France, since France has nuclear powerplants up the whazoo.
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Shitting Sonderpack - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:34:36 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156522
>tea time, when millions of English turn on their water cookers.
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Martin Shakefoot - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 09:14:03 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156522
I'm sure there are hundreds of things that take more power than a fucking electric teapot ya dink. It really doesn't take much current jammed through a stupid metal wire to heat passed 214F/100C
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Barnaby Deshfuck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 11:50:45 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156527
Clearly you're not an electrical engineer.
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Shitting Sonderpack - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 16:26:23 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156529
Clearly you have no idea how the English love their tea.
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Doris Chongerpudge - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 18:09:46 EST ID:bq9mUpwR No.156536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156527
Small electric kettles usually have 1200 watt elements and electric stoves are a bit higher.
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Ernest Blangerwater - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 19:25:58 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156536
Dude, those motherfuckers REALLY like their tea.
Seriously, I think something like 97% of their entire energy production goes to fixing a nice cuppa. Shit, the country declared a state of emergency when their biscuit factory went offline.
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Phineas Duckman - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 21:48:05 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.156540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156522
>The English powerplants cannot handle the energy needed around tea time, when millions of English turn on their water cookers.
You know, it's not even just that the English are still carrying on this nationwide obsession with this one particular form of caffeinated beverage.

It's the fact that they apparently all do it at the same time every day, like some kind of religious ritual. Like this is the British version of the minarets calling out the daily prayer. It's fucking hilarious.
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Jack Blollerkot - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 22:28:35 EST ID:iTeksKaa No.156541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156540

Yeah its almost like "tea time" is actually code word for something else! What are those sneaky brits up to!?!?!?!
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Eliza Blogglechid - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:21:36 EST ID:iL+DBqEt No.156550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156540
Time for some culture lessons on the world's most historically significant 3rd rate (and falling) power.
>all do it at the same time every day
No, that's not true. Anything can be used an excuse for tea. Some of these events however do affect a lot of people at once. When certain programs end on TV millions of people all decide now would be a good time for a cuppa. Football matches, series finales and shit usually but anything that is watched in the millions. I think via chinese whispers this predictability has become the notion of one time of day somehow before reaching your ears.

This does mean that at certain times there is a power spike measurable in GW at certain times however and the stuff about demand spikes is partially true. However there are certain power stations that do stuff like pump water uphill during off peak times and let it flow during peak times. Measures like this would help smooth the spikes out and thus mean the network doesn't need a capacity 20 times it's normal level just for a couple of 5 minutes spikes per day.
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Cornelius Bissleman - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 13:32:39 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156550
>Measures like this would help smooth the spikes out and thus mean the network doesn't need a capacity 20 times it's normal level just for a couple of 5 minutes spikes per day.

Redundant overcapacity is good for a power grid. The redlining is what lead to the North American East Coast power outage when one plant shut down.
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Phineas Duckman - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 16:02:04 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.156552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156550
>I think via chinese whispers this predictability has become the notion of one time of day somehow before reaching your ears.
I didn't say only one time a day.

Why do you think I specifically compared it to Islamic prayer?
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Caroline Genderspear - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:47:15 EST ID:iL+DBqEt No.156577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156551
Yes though I didn't argue there shouldn't be any excess capacity. Or that there's only the average/peak sustained output should be met. The system absolutely need redundancy and a bit more than that for unexpected circumstances like long cold winters. Though I guess the logical conclusion of taking what I said to the extreme would be having just enough power to satisfy demand and massive storage.

The less reliable the power source the more storage but also capacity you need. I mean what if there's a spike in demand during a sustained drop in output? As we move to renewable we will need both much more power and much more storage to make it work.

Anyway yes, I agree and would consider what you're saying to practically be an underlying assumption when building a power network. Of course I know this isn't the reality, but that's not about not being aware of the facts, it's about not giving a fuck and getting rich doing it.

>>156552
True but you said everyone does it at the same time every day. Whereas actually a lot of people do it at the same time at various times.
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Augustus Pottingbere - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:35:42 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.156583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156577
>The less reliable the power source the more storage but also capacity you need
It's more efficient just not to get a greater portion of your power from a single source than that source's capacity factor.
A smart grid and varied sources is much cheaper than building 20x baseload capacity and storage.
Some extra capacity that can be turned on as needed or transmitted from far away is more ideal than exponential losses that comes with more of your power going into storage or being transmitted long distances
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Charles Wonningdetch - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 07:16:57 EST ID:iL+DBqEt No.156632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156583
Yeah but you still need risk mitigation. Unless you can guarantee one source can be switched on when another fails or under produces you still need more excess capacity. If the entire system runs on non renewables you have a high degree of reliability and low degree of variance. If you shift to renewables you don't. Well depending. Stuff like tidal power is both extremely predictable and completely out of your control.
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Charlotte Turveyforth - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:37:00 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the record btw I don't think either the UK or the EU are planning to leave the WTO so even if talks completely collapse there will be rules to follow. The "most favored nation"-thing means that you can't just raise or ignore tariffs on a single country without applying it to everyone else as well.
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Jarvis Cengerman - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:19:41 EST ID:WnS71J2G No.156799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I doubt it. A bunch of companies just say they're thinking about moving so the British government cuts them a better deal on their taxes.


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