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War With North Korea (bet on it) by Kim Jong Poon - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:04:43 EST ID:bKQAySV7 No.156442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-explores-options-including-use-of-military-force-to-counter-north-korean-threat-1488407444

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-01/white-house-exploring-use-military-force-against-north-korea

> A White House review of its North Korea policies includes weighing the use of a pre-emptive military strike or regime change if the secretive regime appears close to testing an intercontinental ballistic missile, according to reports.

> Sources told the Wall Street Journal that an internal White House review of strategy on the Hermit Kingdom includes the possibility of military force or regime change; an idea that US officials reportedly have emphasized during recent talks with allies in the South Pacific.

> During the discussions with the leaders, sources said, White House officials had been highlighting the possible military dimensions of their proposed strategy.

> A source told the Journal that after Trump’s two-day summit with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe last month, US officials stated that all options were on the table when it came to dealing with North Korea’s nuclear arms program.

> American officials have highlighted the use of military options during recent meetings with allies, according to sources quoted by The Wall Street Journal.
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Thomas Wezzlefuck - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:20:05 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.156443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been hearing "all options are on the table" for years, with regards to all sorts of situations

I wish there was less repetition of tired phrases
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Kim Jong Poon - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 02:21:37 EST ID:bKQAySV7 No.156444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/world/americas/donald-trump-us-military.html

> President Trump’s vision of American power, something of a mystery during the campaign, has come into new focus after a week of speeches and budget plans hinting at his ambitions for the military. They reveal a president fascinated with raw military might, which he sees as synonymous with America’s standing in the world and as a tool to coerce powerful rivals, such as China and Iran, which appear to be his primary concern.

> Mr. Trump is unusually single-minded in his focus on preparing for great power conflict, which the world has averted since World War II. This echoes the beliefs of Stephen K. Bannon, a senior adviser whose nationalist ideology traditionally sees great power conflict as inevitable. “We’re going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years,” Mr. Bannon said in a March 2016 radio broadcast. “There’s no doubt about that.”

> Mr. Trump has mostly expressed his military thinking through calls to build up major weapons systems, such as aircraft carriers and nuclear weapons, designed to fight major wars. Michael C. Horowitz, a University of Pennsylvania political scientist, said, “That does mean a military force more optimized for potential conflict with China, with Iran and, ironically, with Russia.”
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Martha Chemblebut - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 08:29:22 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156444
Looked like a hand pupped from the thread
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Hedda Hettingshit - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:37:37 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.156446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what happened to the non-interventionist policy? i thought trumpkins hated clinton because she was so hawkish? but after threatening china now NK too? lol, basically as long as it isn't russia it's cool i guess. so much hypocrisy.

anyway, my money is on "no," even if dump himself wants it.
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Ian Blablingsture - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:11:06 EST ID:mFgknDYU No.156447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Good fucking riddance.
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Ernest Smallman - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:29:14 EST ID:W3NP66oY No.156448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156443
I can always remember how many years I've been on 420chan by the times I've told people that North Korea has no power, won't ever be a threat and does all this sabre rattling bullshit when their foodstocks get low before spring and everyone is starving. They say they'll shut the fuck up until February of next year if they get sent some food from national aid organizations.

>North Korea is about one of the last concerns ever. This whole assassination stunt was just them begging for more food because their country faces famine every January-March before they can start producing their own food again.

-2/10
This thread is gay.
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Sidney Bardway - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:32:22 EST ID:EjFN0ri2 No.156451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156446
>We shouldn't have a strong military!

Said no Republican, ever.
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Basil Nuggledale - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:51:45 EST ID:UwEK9WGD No.156452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156451
Nor did Hedda.
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Frederick Pittgold - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 03:26:18 EST ID:AhogKQVj No.156458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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More bullshit, just in time for Monday morning news.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/asia/north-korea-projectile/
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Simon Brocklestone - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:35:28 EST ID:i48ioMRE No.156465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156458
In b4 Un shoots one at Fukushima and trolls us all forever.

Nb, North Korea is a joke state.
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Simon Mepperforth - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:45:29 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.156472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>a pre-emptive military strike or regime change
Regime change pretty much necessitates military intervention. The Norks haven't exactly been squeamish in sacrificing their people for the sake of the regime.

The reality is though that Best Korea will only continue to improve it's ability to deploy nukes. Sooner or later that will mean they can threaten mass devastation of some of the most influential and powerful countries on earth. It would seem a strategic mistake for anyone involved to allow such a consistently unpredictable and violent regime that power. Their technology would be barely acceptable to the early CCCP but it's much easier to destroy than defend. They are also pretty much the born definition of Israels proposed mad-dog/Sampson-option strategy.
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Ebenezer Morrychag - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 17:29:09 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I could honestly see Trump starting a conflict somewhere in the world just to try to cause a rallying effect and to mitigate the shitshow that is his presidency.
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Eugene Dullyfield - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:16:51 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156473
Oh, for sure. Plus, Bannon seems to think we are in the midst of some epochal end-times event or something...
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Henry Pockwill - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:05:42 EST ID:O+Tn+tk4 No.156475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156474

Can't really fault him for that. I'm beginning to feel like that as well.

Both the U.S. and China are preparing for a war against the other. That doesn't mean it'll ever happen, of course, but it gives me a fucking ominous feeling that won't go away. Like it's the quiet before the storm.
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Barnaby Mummerway - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:15:50 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156475

China isn't prepping for a war and neither is the U.S., they're just prepping for dick waving competitions over those islands.
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Charles Huffingnare - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:16:30 EST ID:swJkxz4K No.156478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156477
Pretty much this. I think I heard a reporter once say, that going to an all out war within to areas is none of their best interest it's just to keep shit in check within those areas and Japan because the U.S dun goofed in the middle east and west china sea.
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Charlotte Pobblegold - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:14:21 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156478
This. If China and the USA go to war, that just means the EU will become lord and master of the World.

>because Russia ain't shit.
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Phineas Fungerhall - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:00:17 EST ID:TsC3FCgv No.156490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156489
>The EU ruling the world

Please I can't laugh so much it's hard to breath.
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Charlotte Pobblegold - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 09:21:02 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156490
What? You think Brazil steps up? Or the UK? Hahahahahaaaaa. There are only three powers in the world. The USA, China and the EU.
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David Winnerchork - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:21:44 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156492
He beleve Eurabia. Not worth the zeros and ones friend.
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Hamilton Guddlelirk - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:12:02 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.156503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156490
he's right though, assuming the implausible scenario of the US and China annihilating each other. they'd become the most powerful single political entity in the world.

it's not like the Europeans didn't already once rule the world.

if you have any alternative theories on who would become top dog if China and the US were out of the picture i'd love to hear em. considering your trollish response though, i'm betting on no response.
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Martin Shakefoot - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:44:02 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156503
The only way the EU will rule the world is by having enough government survive the nuclear holocaust. the way things are going it will be the new Jerusalem territories by then.
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Shitting Sonderpack - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 22:18:17 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156503
>alternative theories on who would become top dog if China and the US were out of the picture i'd love to hear em.

Interesting question. I could actually see the US getting replaced by some Latin nation or alliance. I mean, what was left of it. Certainly the balance of power would shift southward and more towards South America, than North America. China would be a freaking nightmare. Only because it is such a vast territory with such a vast influence, that you would have all these small players who would have escaped any downfall, on the edges just ready to go. Plus, internal tensions between Uygars and the Han. Tibet would ecstatic to see China go, since they would most certainly escape a collapse and could just take back their country.

India could become a big player. They also have a diaspora all over Asia. India might replace Chinese influence in SE Asia, with Japan and Korea (assuming they survived...I'm positing some impossible war where US and China go "poof." Makes it simpler.) grabbing the Pacific Rim. Possibly even as far as the remains of the US. This would be mostly a domination in trade and certain cultural exports like, yes, video games and anime. Japan does that shit well. So does Korea. They are advanced nations that could just dominate the industrial rebuilding needed after China goes away. The EU would host the new Silicon Valley. Well, the headquarters. Vietnam or someplace would be handling the outsourcing for programmers by then.

Ball, high BTW.
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Simon Brudgegold - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:06:00 EST ID:wy+rg2GU No.156511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Uh...Russia
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Beatrice Pickgold - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 06:17:52 EST ID:KOxKXqHC No.156515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whats with the EU dominance fantasy ITT? Le Penn is going to win and then the EU will crumble. Europe will be stronger without it.
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Barnaby Deshfuck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:44:36 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156515
>le penn is going to win

You obviously don't watch European news. European alt-right is stillborn. Died before it started.
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Martin Shakefoot - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:12:39 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156516
remember all the news for the American election?
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Barnaby Deshfuck - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 08:17:59 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156519
Remember how the media was all about how in Austria the alt-right was going to win? The leftist guy won.

Remember how the media was all about how in some North-German state the far-right AfD was going to win? The SPD won instead. Lefties.
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Basil Bembleshaw - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 15:25:15 EST ID:3LZujtbE No.156532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156520
oh right the austrian election where they had to redo the vote because of statistical improbability. I'll give you the AfD vs SPD though- real shocker.

nb for replying to retarded shills "ITT"
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Shitting Tillingbanks - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 23:01:00 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156516
>European alt-right is stillborn. Died before it started
You used this exact phrase on /b/. Strange.
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Cornelius Bissleman - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 03:50:14 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156532
Getting elected is one thing. Look at the BNP. They got alot of people into counsels and such. Its the fact they can't actually govern worth a damn that sinks these European far-right parties every time. That, and the non-stop infighting.
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Nathaniel Tootfuck - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 07:26:59 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156532
>bububut the austrian election wasn't legit

Suuuuuure. Alt-right is dead. The only reason Trump won in the USA is because the USA has no leftists to outvote the alt-right.
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Doris Hingerwill - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:51:40 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.156580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156547
It's not even that, it's because Clinton ran the shittiest, most arrogant and elitist campaign a person could run.

Wisconsin has gone to the Democrats in every election since 1988. Michigan and Pennsylvania have gone to the Democrats in every election since 1992. Trump won all 3 in 2016. If Clinton won these three very easy to win states instead of Trump, she would be the POT US right now.

Yet after the Wisconsin dem primary, Hillary did not set foot in Wisconsin. At all. She sent Bernie Sanders out there a couple of times, but that's it. She visited Michigan 3 times after the primaries. First a rally in Detroit. A month or two later, an event in Warren - Michigan's third largest city. Finally, a GOTV event at Grand Valley State University the day before the election. She visited PA here and there, but usually only visited Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. Most of the rest of that state was ignored. Same with the rest of the deep blue rust belt. Totally ignored. Meanwhile her incredibly out of touch staff were fantasizing about flipping Georgia and Texas like retards.

Notice how she never spoke on the Flint water crisis ever, EVER, after the MI primary concluded. Bernie brought it up frequently by contrast. The content of her speeches, even the few delivered in MI and PA show why those voters didn't turn out for her as well.

Tone deaf, self centered, arrogant as fuck, and leaving your prime constituencies out in the cold? AND with the handicap of being pegged as "the establishment candidate"? Definitely not the kind of campaign you wanna run when you're trying to contrast yourself with Donald fucking Trump.
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Angus Clubbersidge - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:53:49 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156532
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dutch-election-rutte-wilders-1.4026822

Another loss for the Populist Right.
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Cedric Gullyville - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:45:04 EST ID:pblKryXt No.156710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156580
Except Donald fucking Trump was such a laughably bad candidate, it's amazing that he won. You are correct that Hillary Clinton ran the race as if she were unopposed, but it's not at all surprising or unwarranted, her underestimation.

But this is a mistake that nerds and goody-two-shoes often make. They assume that the rules are always on their side, and this is where the arrogance emerges. Once they fuck up their readings with those sorts of assumptions, their defeat is almost in hand.

When nerds and teacher's pets enter an arena, where the rule of victory is the destruction of your opponent, irrespective of a fair fight, they are out of their depth, and don't understand the fight. I've learned my lesson.

Never bet on a dork, who depends on a good call from the referee, for the win. Also, never bet on large groups of dorks who believe that's the path to victory. Winning on technicalities.
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Jarvis Bundale - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:33:34 EST ID:1fIHantD No.156711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156532

Please don't forget that Trump got the presidency because of the archaic US electoral system. He actually lost the popular vote, just like the polls said he would.

Europe on the other hand isn't full retard when it comes to democracy, most of us even got multiple parties in parliament even.
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Henry Deffingpudge - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:28:47 EST ID:r14Wb2/L No.156726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156710
Underestimating the competition wasn't the only mistake she made, just the first.

>>156711
The US is a republic not a direct democracy like you silly EU have. Enjoy the last few years of being called the EU.
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Nigel Hisslefet - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:02:02 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.156729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156726
The US is a Democratic Republic, goofus.
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David Wanningford - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 20:40:57 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156726

Right, but remember that Trump won because of the way the system is designed, not by the will of the people. Most Americans who voted did not want him for president.

Just an important distinction to make.
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Ebenezer Messledire - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:41:46 EST ID:NSHJykeG No.156737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156735
I think if you are going to make that distinction you may as well say that the people really didn't want either party to lead the country because both candidates were fucking bad.
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Hugh Sirringmutch - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:51:16 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.156738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156735
This also forgets to factor in the fact of Gerrymandering. Districts being strategically designed by Republicans, giving them an edge in Congress.
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Angus Shittingman - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:44:18 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156737
I dont think anyone was denying that.
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Hamilton Smallwill - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 11:23:19 EST ID:jWvBcNsn No.156756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think the trump administration knows there is some support in his base for a war with North Korea. I bet that half the people that voted for him think it would be as easy as Iraq, fuck my mom voted for this guy literally for this issue. "He gonna knock off that guy in korea" Just another case of white conservatives not knowing what the fuck is happening.

>Korean war 2 ElectricBoogalo
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George Simmerridge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:43:55 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156756
I wonder how the Trumpkins will feel when all their kids die in Korean War 2 : The Un-Kimming! Or will they be happy with a free funeral and a souvenir flag?
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Priscilla Wiggleman - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:53:08 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156758
Won't be a funeral when American forces cross the border with North-Korea. It'll be a free cremation. A thermo-nuclear cremation. North-Korea might not use nukes offensively but it sure as hell will use nukes for self-defense.
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George Simmerridge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:58:18 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156761
So, just the flag then...got it.
Ooo...plus I think Gold Star Moms get 10% off at Fashion Bug...
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Hamilton Gibblekure - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 16:27:23 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156761
Its more and more like Belka ever fucking day.
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Priscilla Fullynag - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 19:38:01 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.156766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156758
Mothers, don't hesitate, send 'em off before it's too late
Be the first one on the block, to have your boy come home in a box.
And it's one... two... three...

>>156761
North Korea's nukes are quite large and have very low yields.
They'd probably have to deliver them by truck or bury them and hope there are Americans near by when they go off.
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Priscilla Punnerhudge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 20:05:18 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156766
>They'd probably have to deliver them by truck


I hope Un played Red Alert then!
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Fanny Saddlewudge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:11:05 EST ID:a5Q+3p0e No.156769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156763
Way to take me to memory lane....
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Lydia Hizzlehood - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 23:19:50 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156767
Un gets to play the IRL version////
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Martin Sittingsot - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:19:13 EST ID:xjHbjtEm No.156775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Shit's going down one way or another in the next 4 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/world/asia/us-north-korea-weapons.html

Get ready. The frequency of these news articles is no accident. We are months away from the real shit.
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Albert Finningham - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 04:26:34 EST ID:eYZYr4Fr No.156776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156775
God damn these fucking bullshit paywalls.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/world/asia/us-north-korea-weapons.html
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Hamilton Dallersture - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 01:07:14 EST ID:NSHJykeG No.156791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156776
is this legit just missing the uk and the usa (bar alaska lmao)? Like commmmon
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Ebenezer Facklesed - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 02:22:45 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.156792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156776

The thing is, most of the time their missiles end up failing and crashing into the ocean before they're supposed to, and the second thing is that DPRK still does not have a nuclear weapon nearly small enough to fit on their missiles. Which means no MIRV capability either lol.
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Walter Wenderdure - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 06:33:08 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156792
No ICBM capacity you mean. A MIRV features around five independent moving nukes with on board targetting computers etc. inside a missile, allowing it to nuclear carpetbomb an area for maximum efficiency.

It really is a technical master piece, so far , only the Americans, Chinese, Brits and French have significant numbers. As far as I know, Russia doesn't have a lot because when the Russians still made nukes they were like 30 years behind on computer technology and Putin is too busy stealing tax money to modernize Russia's nukes.
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Thomas Focklefield - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 07:22:44 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156794
Russia's mindset also was why have 10-20 small nukes hit an area, when you can just have one big one do it in one go?
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Fucking Cranderhud - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:19:07 EST ID:G8n9hFYU No.156796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156776
One important thing to remember here, sending an icbm over a nuclear power is basically the same thing as attacking it, whether it's the target or not.
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Martin Muffinglock - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:03:06 EST ID:fIz9xdLH No.156797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156795

The purpose of multiple warheads is to reduce the likelihood of missile interception as well as increase the number of individual targets each missile can hit. In a modern (which in this case means any time in the last 30 or more years) nuclear exchange, a large amount of missiles can be expected to be intercepted by anti-ballistic missiles, and this is what the MIRV counters.

The idea behind the MIRV in the first place was that by using all these smaller sub-munitions, they would be both harder to track and intercept individually, as each warhead would have a much smaller radar cross-section (and pretty much no heat signature, as they are free-falling suborbital warheads and not individual rockets like most movies portray) vs one large missile. This in turn means it would be much harder to intercept all the sub-munitions together (as each one would have to be intercepted individually, of course).

A nuclear warhead of massive yield is actually of little strategic use. Contrary to the typical Hollywood "doomsday" portrayal of a nuclear holocaust, nuclear missiles are not typically aimed at cities specifically, and are not designed to inflict the largest possible amount of civilian casualties. The strategy of a complete nuclear exchange is to get the largest possible amount of nuclear warheads on individual enemy launch sites, bases, government facilities, etc., and though this will result in massive losses of civilian life (both because many base and government buildings being in proximity to populated urban areas, as well as the eventual radioactive fallout spreading elsewhere), that's a correlation and not the goal. The goal is the largest amount of neutralized enemy facilities to reduce their retaliatory capability, which requires accuracy and the ability to hit the most targets first, rather than larger yield individual warheads (as even a small nuclear device is generally enough to knock out anything but the largest subterranean facility, assuming it is accurate).

That's not to say a complete depletion of say, Russia and the US's nuclear arsenals wouldn't result in the extinction of the human race, because it most certainly would.
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Walter Wenderdure - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:23:56 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156797
Mind you, it wouldn't be a "push button, humanity extinct" scenario. It'd be a slow extinction of a few thousand years, where the damage of nuclear war morphs together with climate change, global pandemic outbreaks without any functional medical infrastructure, phosphor cycle disruption and the destruction of ecoystems into one big ball of mass extinction.

When you hear "the nuclear arsenal can kill mankind right now *X times over" it typically refers to the concept of the salted nuke, nuclear devices that thankfully were never built. A salted nuke is a nuclear weapon filled with say cobalt or similar metals. The nuke goes off, the cobalt melts, due to the atomic properties of cobalt, the cobalt absorbs all the radioactivity of the nuke, and the cobalt then melts into a metal gas as the nuclear explosion heats up everything around it to a temperature of a million degrees celsius. The highly radioactive cobalt gas then condenses into nano-sized balls that are carried by the winds all over the planet, killing off all life on the planet with a couple thousand times the fatal radiation dose.
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Reuben Greenshit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:30:15 EST ID:LfViSVI4 No.156807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156797
>Contrary to the typical Hollywood "doomsday" portrayal of a nuclear holocaust, nuclear missiles are not typically aimed at cities specifically, and are not designed to inflict the largest possible amount of civilian casualties.

which is funny because the only nuclear weapons that have ever been used in war specifically did target cities and were intended to cause the largest possible amount of civilian casualties
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Matilda Bardlock - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:11:01 EST ID:EjFN0ri2 No.156814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156807
Different times, man.
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Charlotte Crengerperk - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:51:14 EST ID:fIz9xdLH No.156815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156807

That's why I said nuclear missile, specifically. The conditions of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were very unique, because it was being used as a novel "wonder weapon" against a non-nuclear power for shock and propaganda value.

But now that so many countries have nukes, the only real use of said nukes is to try to neutralize your opponent's nukes first. You wouldn't see an exchange like that nowadays because even if you were targeting a non-nuclear power, as >>156796 said, even sending an ICBM near a nuclear country is akin to an act of war and in all likelihood could lead to a total exchange with them as well.
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Lillian Worthingshit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:45:10 EST ID:TbjHpHWH No.156818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156776

Yeah ... this picture again.

It's important to remember that a Taepodong II will reach 5000 miles under theoretical optimum conditions

DPRK can't even make sure it's entire army is fed a proper ration, and you want to believe that their Taepodongs are in anywhere near good enough of an operational state that they will successfully fly any fraction of their theoretical maximum distance? I bet 90% of them aren't even in good enough of a state that they can be launched at all.
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Basil Gurringhall - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:55:19 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.156819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156818
It's all Saber rattling anyway. Un isn't so far down the hole that he thinks NK could beat the US AND China, and even if he was, one of his generals WOULD put a bullet in his head if he was about to mass an attack.
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Samuel Neshlit - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 08:44:36 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156818
Nevermind that North-Korean nukes aren't big enough to fit in an ICBM.

They're still at the stage of "put bomb on truck/plane, get it near target, leave truck/push bomb out of plane".
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Reuben Webberlock - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:28:46 EST ID:uwlXhblw No.156833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NK always bang on like this. They aint gonna do shit. Its just Propaganda to make them stronger as a country.
and they are still pissed off at that Interview movie
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Basil Churringbut - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 14:12:53 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156833
>"they are still pissed off at that Interview movie"

As should we should all be! Horrible piece of crap!
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Hamilton Wiffingput - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:11:07 EST ID:QTQ/0eeD No.156860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156836
Seriously. Fuck that gay ass movie, and all the nothing it resulted in.
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Hamilton Wiffingput - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 01:12:51 EST ID:QTQ/0eeD No.156861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156860
Sorry wrong picture.
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Phoebe Pammerbark - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:09:51 EST ID:VWNeL/9S No.156889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156515

>Europe gets divided and can't focus its powers anymore
>this strengthens the Europe

You're retarded. A bunch of small countries that play around with some nationalist ideologies will easily get eaten by China, Russia, the US or whatever other BRIC state that becomes the next big player.


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