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Liberal Activist Pleads Guilty To 14 Counts Of Voter Fraud by Edward Dungerham - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:47:53 EST ID:jfT5++j2 No.156596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/14276/liberal-activist-pleads-guilty-14-counts-voter-amanda-prestigiacomo democratic voter fraud

That thing the left says doesn't happen happened again. Despite the persistent claim by those on the left that voter fraud doesn't exist, a liberal activist from Ohio pleaded guilty to 14 counts of voter fraud on Monday. Rebecca A. Hammonds, who was originally charged with 35 counts, was sentenced to six months in prison.
Oliver Mimmerson - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:02:05 EST ID:lYEV514W No.156603 Ignore Report Quick Reply

ANd we are done....
Sidney Chonkinsare - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 01:03:39 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nicholas Dinningstone - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 05:00:37 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.156610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the left

Americans once again prove they're absolutely retarded.
Cornelius Brebblewill - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 06:45:40 EST ID:SHn4VjJ9 No.156614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's one down. Where are the rest of the three million fake votes?
Cyril Cimbleham - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 12:52:40 EST ID:2DSGm7P7 No.156618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's what middle murican, liberal, woman look like? No wonder you hate them both.
Phyllis Birringsutch - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:38:14 EST ID:EjFN0ri2 No.156619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Pretending most Republicans and Democrats in America aren't all socialists of the worst kind

Actually, there can be no true political Right as long as we have corrupt taxation schemes and erosion of liberties.
Phyllis Drurryditch - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 13:46:38 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.156620 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah, it's always the socialists who translate corporate whim into government policy
Jarvis Depperspear - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 21:33:47 EST ID:O/8wh4eA No.156629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if that kind of swamp monster can get 14 fake votes I don't have much respect for american voting system
Clara Herringnick - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 21:38:19 EST ID:QYpjCH3+ No.156630 Ignore Report Quick Reply

No one ever claimed voter fraud doesn't exist other than retards. Anyone with an education has always said it occurs in such rarity that there's no fucking way that there could be millions of fraudulent votes cast and possibly no more than 100 for each presidential election.

Fuck off back to /pol/, shitposter.
Cornelius Bardville - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 21:44:41 EST ID:CQ7hq4gz No.156631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They weren't votes. She was being paid to help people register. Casting 14 fake ballots would involve a lot more actual work which I gather is not something she's up for.
Polly Hurringson - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:03:31 EST ID:C9vqYq85 No.156643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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electronic voting machines with your wife as vote counter
Molly Shakelock - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 01:10:18 EST ID:fVxlLS44 No.156651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I prefer the edit where the golf ball hits the WTC tower
Edwin Dettingfuck - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:56:20 EST ID:hO4zMuI3 No.157199 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Please, this is bait, right?
Alice Dollerspear - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 10:06:58 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In Europe (dunno about the UK though) liberal is the name for libertarian and the left is called; well, "the left'".
In North America though they don't seem to like dictionaries so the terms are interchangeable.
Ian Canderpodge - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 12:01:47 EST ID:s0oc3CrU No.157209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why do righties not get the difference between liberals and the left?
Archie Fodgenick - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:33:08 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because they're all retarded mongoloids that believe in Jewish fairy tales.
Phyllis Goodman - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 10:37:17 EST ID:zezoQh+Z No.157256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Liberalism means different things in Europe and America because there has never been a landed aristocracy in the USA to return to and there has never been a potent socialist movement. The USA was founded on and remains faithful to the propertarian ideal of enterprise
Emma Hackleville - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 18:10:00 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's one way to say that the Americans were too lazy to invent new terms or use the old ones correctly.
Edwin Chinkinton - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 18:48:49 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP you are confused.

Liberals say (correctly) that illegal voting doesn't swing elections one way or another.

What you posted is proof of that. The votes she cast illegally were quickly noticed (As any illegal voting is), invalidated and then she was punished.

Conservatives like to pretend that this goes unnoticed and unpunished all over the country on an absolutely massive scale (Up to MILLIONS of illegal votes, depending on who you ask), and that's why so many democratic votes exist, when in reality instances of voter fraud are rare and easily identified.

More misleading bullshit from the arch-bullshitters.
Emma Hackleville - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 18:56:29 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>depending on who you ask
3-5 million according to POTUS. Same size as his inauguration crowd really.
George Dartforth - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 19:32:14 EST ID:vkM17O3D No.157275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the real problem is fucking with placement and number of polling places, gerrymandering, corrupt officials in charge of the process, etc. we see both sides pull that shit. arizona got fucked over by it in the democratic primaries just this last election. there's a lot of ways to fuck with things but illegal voting isn't one of them. shit doesn't work and there's better options.
Edwin Sapperhit - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:58:19 EST ID:pJR6Gnc+ No.157277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>never been a landed aristocracy in the US
the custis-Lee family might disagree with you
Basil Hemmerstone - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:22:00 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157300 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah but those dumbasses got tricked into thinking the real problem was mexicans and blacks voting 12 times each and shit, and they use as justification for voter ID laws which target identifications more likely to be held by certain minority groups as unacceptable for proof of identity on election day.
Thomas Buvingdale - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 19:00:45 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Voting without a photo ID seems an intrinsically weird idea to me. Any way you look at it it will add complexity to a process that should ideally be as simple, transparent and easily accessible as possible. Just make sure everyone has photo-ids like almost every other country.
Basil Hemmerstone - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 19:58:18 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157308 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's not that simple.

Such laws typically look at which sorts of IDs are held by which segments of society. They routinely bar the use of specific forms of ID, even Photo-ID, if barring that type of ID will have a disproportionate effect on people who generally vote for their political opponents.

Meanwhile, certain other forms of ID, even if they do not make use of photos, may be permitted if it is seen that those who hold this ID tend to belong to their constituency.

Read into it, it's basically their next step after gerrymandering to limit political opposition. They craft these laws very, very specifically.
Charlotte Dorringhutch - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:18:28 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So stop wasting your time trying to plaster over the symptoms and standardize ID. I'm sure you'll find that you save a lot of tax dollars in the process.
Clara Snodlock - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 21:50:07 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157315 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well democrats wanted to do that with Real-ID act, but many states resist it and still more continue to implement laws attempting to limit which IDs are acceptable, since not everyone has a drivers license or a passport.
Archie Blathergold - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:06:27 EST ID:bq9mUpwR No.157316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've never seen any explanation as to why federal level elections in the US are not standardized. Standardized voting equipment, voter eligibility and voter requirements. If states want to have a bunch of shifty bs for their own state and local elections, fine. But if you want to take part in the national elections, you should have to adhere to strict regulations so each and every voting location is using the same equipment, and eligibility requirements.
Edward Pillyferk - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:57:18 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because the US was set up as a compromise between people who wanted effectively a loosely united group of independent states, and a single state.
Cornelius Moddlehack - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:30:10 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.157325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this. let's not forget the US was originally supposed to be a confederation, but later that idea was abandoned, only to be re-used by the south when they seceded.

the reality i think is that confederations inevitably start to veer one way or another, ie it either gets more centralized down the road or just separates completely, often reforming as an alliance or economic union or some shit with even less central authority.
Charlotte Dorringhutch - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:17:18 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've honestly never heard of that tbj; would I be wrong to assume it wasn't pushed as hard as letting people vote without photo-id? Quite frankly any democracy should try to make voting both as secure and as easy as possible. An easy means to prove who you are would seem almost mandatory in most complex societies anyway.

It certainly doesn't make much sense from a contemporary perspective. It's like you intentionally design your bureaucratic institutions to fail.
Archie Blathergold - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:40:19 EST ID:bq9mUpwR No.157327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm talking about today, not in infancy of the nation. Shit makes no sense man.
Priscilla Berrypotch - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:47:05 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157329 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's not so much that people are pushing to be allowed to vote without ID, as much as it's people pushing against the voter ID laws which are designed to be biased in some states.

When Republicans tend to oppose both Real-ID and also want to narrow the valid forms of iD for voting, it creates a bit of a bind.
Hannah Sommerson - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:16:13 EST ID:5cYI3dh5 No.157330 Ignore Report Quick Reply

what the fuck are you talking about? so flashing your green card isn't enough to vote? gotta get a drivers' license? boo fucking hoo
Priscilla Berrypotch - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:28:11 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157331 Ignore Report Quick Reply

....You can't vote with a green card anyway lol

This is about citizens voting.
Jarvis Drorringstidging - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 01:28:29 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not everybody can get mommy to pay for their IDs like you did.
Martha Fanderdale - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:20:55 EST ID:UK3HFt8a No.157334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>green card isn't enough to vote?
it already isn't, lol. jesus christ, i can just smell your pickup's wet cigarette n dip smell waft over from this post.
Reuben Dirringson - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:05:37 EST ID:lYEV514W No.157339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alice Bubblebury - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:55:58 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apologies for my ignorance then, seems like it was more complicated. Couldn't Real-id be spun as something to stop illegals voting though?
Ebenezer Pagglestock - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 22:04:37 EST ID:mFK5yRIO No.157403 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Illegals already can't vote, though.. This whole "Illegal immigrants voting millions of times" is totally fabricated lol.

In-Person election fraud is extremely easy to detect, people get caught for it all of the time because they underestimated the security of the way we do voting.

The last time someone stole an election by fucking with votes was when Bush and his friends got a recount shut down with an engineered riot/protest. Google "Brooks Brothers Riot".
Fanny Modgestone - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 03:43:31 EST ID:i2SzqmZt No.157408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy shit that's fucking crazy
I can't believe I had never heard about that
Priscilla Sivingkire - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:15:58 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I meant you should hijack their narrative. Surely requiring a standardized ID would be the gold standard in stopping those pesky Mexicans from voting (D)?
Archie Clankincocke - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:50:42 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Or we can at least make NRA Lifetime Memberships count as ID....
Phoebe Nickleman - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 00:42:07 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right direction I guess. Illegals shouldn't be buying guns in your country anyway.

The fundamental concept though would be to push for common standards. It works with passports and those are issued in other countries to foreigners. Theoretically a library card could work if it's done well enough. That way you can even free-market the shit. Set standards and give accreditation. The entire point is that you want to know that the person voting is allowed to do so. The best way to do this is to a) issue your voters with ID (if they lose it they'd have to buy a new one) b) let others do the work for you. Anything allowing you to vote would be the gold standard of IDs and it's not all that costly to achieve. If conflicts arise you can sue each other back and forth (I have gathered that you like that).

Making sure people have the right to vote really shouldn't be harder than taxing people. It's obvious that the latter can be sorted out. There is also the ridiculous waste of resources involved in the red tape of proving that you are you. I'm sure business would be more than interested in any way that would create a common standard as well.
Walter Nashwill - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 11:40:16 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, the whole point is that they only want SOME people to vote. Which is why Texas actually let people use firearm permits as ID, but not student IDs issued by state schools.

Also, expect "sporadic," enforcement. Especially in states like Florida, where they fuck with the voting constantly.
Simon Cattingwell - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:37:04 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get that but it would at leas t complicate their rhetoric if there was a move towards just saving money by standardizing ID
Emma Gebberwell - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:40:14 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
True. The problem is, if they get it, they can't pull shit like this -


By limiting who can get ID in sneaky ways, they can simply eliminate whole sections of society while claiming that they are just "too lazy," to get the right ID.
Barnaby Foddlewell - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:53:30 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Couldn't ID's be made available at the federal level?
Cedric Nuffingbanks - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:31:23 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And the same red staters who think black shouldn't vote, turn around and scream "IT'S HAPPENING! BIG BROTHER!"

A federal ID would be harder to deny people. No single state could pull an Alabama and just shut down the DMVs in blue districts making it extremely hard to get a license or ID. Post offices would probably handle them.
Barnaby Foddlewell - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:36:03 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So don't make it mandatory?
George Choblingdale - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:38:12 EST ID:iwww8neQ No.157631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Conservative Reuben Pleads Guilty To 14 Counts of Shitposting and News Fraud

your thread title is a lie, your subject is partisan poop throwing, your source is at the level of breitfart

leave now, and never come back
Emma Summerdale - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:19:29 EST ID:+5q0zMgm No.157633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah man this thread should have been wiped on the spot. It's 4chin /pol/ tier shit slinging idiocy.
Shitting Goodspear - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:41:04 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>So don't make it mandatory?

And they would still bitch. A big part of this is a "states rights," mentality that makes these fucks think that the state has the right to suppress votes.

I mean, your ideas make sense. They do. A national card would be simple, could be easily done, etc. Logically, what you are saying is spot on.

This is politics though. Fuck logic. They want their little empires and to rig the votes. So they buck and scream.
Priscilla Creshbanks - Wed, 03 May 2017 20:44:36 EST ID:TsC3FCgv No.157771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stop pointing out when my side does stupid shit you should be banned from speaking- the post.
you say red state like they all unanimously want to bring back slavery or some thing.
Nice generalization of a people you bigot.
Seriously. This is the last place I'd expect to find subtle racism and bigotry but here I am every day reading shit like this.
Nathaniel Waffinghall - Thu, 04 May 2017 00:09:00 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>you say red state like they all unanimously want to bring back slavery or some thing.

Some do...
Sidney Gullyfork - Thu, 04 May 2017 01:22:22 EST ID:knFhJQjN No.157776 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Which states?

It's some sort of liberal fantasy that all the uneducated flyover states thump bibles and lynch dem gay coloreds.

Sounds like a story that all those non-conformist free thinkers tell themselves before bed time.
Sophie Drirringmat - Thu, 04 May 2017 01:47:04 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Which states?

While the midwest has religion and shitty education down, homophobia and racism seem like more of a southern thing.
Shit, a mayor of a town near me fired their police chief of 20 years when it came out she's a lesbian, saying shit like "I've got nothing against her, but we just can't have someone like that dealing with children and others".
They re-hired her when they realized they could get sued for that and it made national news, then fired her again, this time saying "It's not because she's gay, it's for stuff we can't talk about", and rehired her after a referendum.
Sidney Gullyfork - Thu, 04 May 2017 01:54:41 EST ID:knFhJQjN No.157778 Ignore Report Quick Reply

..Not sure if intentional or not, but that pic you posted is slander against a local governor. The owner of that vehicle is black.


Guess I can't speak for southern states, illinois here. There's racism but it's hardly a common cultural practice.
Sophie Drirringmat - Thu, 04 May 2017 02:21:56 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>There's racism but it's hardly a common cultural practice.
Yeah, but has it moved beyond that?
Here I used to be puzzled when I heard people advocating cutting welfare for the poor (adamant that social security and medicare are not welfare or entitlements), until I learned about "the southern strategy" and "starve the beast".

When these people hear the governor is refusing federal medicare dollars, they don't imagine we'll pay less in state taxes for poor people to use hospitals, they imagine that black, Cadillac-driving welfare queens are all getting medical treatment for free and by increasing the cost of the program to the state, they're decreasing those people's access to medical care.

Things like why the fuck my fellow citizens are voting for people who are blocking funding for the roads unless it comes with cutting top-income tax rates and raising consumption taxes (gas), when we have one of the lowest income taxes in the country started to make more sense.
They see they're getting fucked in the ass, but they're willing to bear it if the poor blacks will get fucked worse.
Jack Nattingleck - Thu, 04 May 2017 06:10:30 EST ID:qetGCKL9 No.157780 Report Quick Reply

BINGO! This right here explains a lot of GOP and right wing thinking in the US.
Sophie Drirringmat - Thu, 04 May 2017 10:40:05 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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*When these people hear the governor is refusing federal medicaid dollars
Nathaniel Waffinghall - Thu, 04 May 2017 12:28:23 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>They see they're getting fucked in the ass, but they're willing to bear it if the poor blacks will get fucked worse.

Kansas is a perfect example of this. Brownback has devastated that state financially, and he still keeps handily winning elections.
Cedric Pickstone - Fri, 05 May 2017 12:40:02 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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k, I see your point. Don't worry though; we do tons of stupid shit in the rest of the world too.

My main point though was that, if you can present a clear and practical option, it would at least make it harder for your opponents to defend their nonsensical one. It's always better to address the root cause than to get bogged down in fighting the symptoms. An easy way for Americans to prove they are who they say they are is in many interests' interests. It makes economic sense on it's own regardless of it's effects on suffrage.
Lillian Sapperhall - Sat, 06 May 2017 12:48:25 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.157818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I mean, your ideas make sense. They do. A national card would be simple, could be easily done, etc. Logically, what you are saying is spot on.
The sad thing is that, for all intents and purposes, Americans already do have a national ID card. Unfortunately, it's called a Social Security card, and it's absolutely terrible for security. Modern nation-states, especially ones the size of America, basically demand some kind of national identifier to make the economy not whack so employers and banks and shit just started using the SSN as a substitute because it was bound to happen one way or another. But because of a bunch of racists and paranoiacs y'all have to deal with the worst sides of both having and not having a national ID.

CGP Grey has a nice explanation of both the mentality behind it and the security issues that arise from it:
Caroline Dipperforth - Sat, 06 May 2017 15:15:19 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>it's called a Social Security
Sounds similar to the "person-number" we use for everything in the Nordic countries.
It works really well; you should try it.
Fuck Crallerwater - Sun, 07 May 2017 11:29:57 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jack Blazzlesteck - Sun, 07 May 2017 17:07:29 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interestingly enough; when it comes to many things like the electrical grid, education or taxis, you will find a freer market in Scandinavia than in most of the USA.
Ebenezer Brillerville - Sun, 07 May 2017 18:39:54 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I thought you had well-funded public schools, and paid the entire cost of college for people.
In the US, some states have a "voucher" program where the state will allocate the state funding that would go to the public school for a student to help cover costs at a private school.

Since then, the free market has spawned schools where the CEO makes 6-7 figures while the children don't get textbooks and schools that are mostly run by local churches and use textbooks like pic related.
Angus Pocklock - Mon, 08 May 2017 12:16:02 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sweden has the voucher system with a mix of public and private schools. However it is far better funded and the government doesn't tolerate low standards or nutty policies (e.g. teaching creationism).

Also don't make the mistake of believing that we get everything right in our penis-shaped land. Our education system is pretty shitty compared to that of the Finns since we completely redesign it every decade or so. But yeah; we get paid to go to Uni, decent school food and students with disabilities have a fatter voucher, ect.
Basil Pittson - Mon, 08 May 2017 12:51:22 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mashallah social democracies only come second to communalism and socialism.
I have no idea how the American public haven't revolted yet or have become radicalized. Fucking 'muricans are too dumb to even change. A country with over 300 million people and y'all have no hand in the neoliberal biparty burger scam.
If there's a people that is politically dormant and lazy it's the yankees.
Angus Pocklock - Mon, 08 May 2017 16:05:24 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We haven't found a way to implement either communalism or true socialism yet. We are only really associated with it since they aren't dirty words here and we freely borrow ideas from them. Nordic governments aren't blind to the value of competition, nor do they see the reason to duplicate production capacity. The government (from local to regional to central) is often legally obligated to hold a transparent public bidding process. Generally the gov can get a good deal since it is such a trustworthy partner. Cheat and get arrested/fined/blacklisted whatevs.

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