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Battle of Berkeley by Edwin Charryson - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:24:26 EST ID:xEgG6c2K No.157444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Battle of Berkeley III: Based STICKMAN and Patriots Defeat Antifa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLrb8fxzvYY
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Rebecca Grimway - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:27:06 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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that whole berkely thing is fucking hilarious.
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Lydia Fanforth - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:45:37 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157444
He looks like a fucking LARP faggot.

I bet he cries himself to sleep at night because Trump bombed Assad.
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Rebecca Membleworth - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:37:53 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.157447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157446

By "Assad" do you mean "civilians?" Assad appears to still be alive.
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Phoebe Huttingwill - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:44:45 EST ID:knFhJQjN No.157448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stickguy KOs some other guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3sZjFusoN4
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Edwin Charryson - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:48:42 EST ID:xEgG6c2K No.157449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thread Warning: Riot videos are a noted technique of anger trolling forums.

and the side that get their ass beat
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Sophie Hummlebire - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:52:32 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157444
Are those fucking NAILS in that stick!?
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Samuel Gindlestone - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:35:08 EST ID:4N4lOfxy No.157451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157447
I see what you were trying to do there. It would help if Assad didn't spend half a decade bombing civilians in a civil war.
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Lydia Fanforth - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:53:14 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157447
Is your memory so fucked from being confused about Trump being just another warmonger that you've forgotten that Trump shot like 70 something missiles at a Syrian missile base?
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Edwin Charryson - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:00:43 EST ID:xEgG6c2K No.157453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Aq8__OL91M
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Rebecca Membleworth - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:31:40 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.157459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157451

Yeah, let's not play the "who's murdered more innocent people" game. Let's just stop murdering innocent people.
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Jarvis Nessleworth - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:35:09 EST ID:F36eF3LW No.157462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ANTIFA is America's only hope, hopefully in the future they organize better or make an effort to pick off targets instead of trying to take on the whole fascist mob.
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Frederick Blimbleford - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:23:26 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157462
how does it feel to be so far removed from reality?
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Jarvis Nessleworth - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:21:42 EST ID:F36eF3LW No.157467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157464
Antifa are knights of justice for the modern age.
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Sidney Wepperpone - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 05:12:57 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157464
The only good fascist is a dead fascist.
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Frederick Blimbleford - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:23:03 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157474
Then I guess it's a good thing there's no fascists around.

>>157467
The LARPing kind, sure.
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Simon Brundlenutch - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:44:35 EST ID:EnRM9IHw No.157480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157467
You people are fucking deranged

THERE IS NO FASCISM

The political situation in the US is a result of DEMOCRACY and LAW.

If there was a fascist state, everyone have to do everything the state said to the minutest detail or be executed> Like in North Korea. Antfia is a product of Western Spoilt babies who dont like things not going their way, sponsored by Soros and are useful idiots of the oligarchs they claim to oppose.
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Sidney Wepperpone - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:47:06 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157480
What are you talking about? Are you [triggered]? Maybe you should fuck off back to your safe space.
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Nathaniel Drogglefan - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:09:55 EST ID:kD7w8UzV No.157483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157480
This
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Cyril Fivingstone - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:11:02 EST ID:iVpTy+7u No.157484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157480
>sponsored by Soros
source or never come back.
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Simon Brundlenutch - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:50:49 EST ID:EnRM9IHw No.157485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157484
you dont know this?
https://www.rt.com/usa/366579-soros-orgs-driving-trump-protests/
>Soros and his wife, Susan Weber Soros, gave $1.46 million to Move.On.org.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/social-justice-warriors-besiege-trump-tower-live-feed
http://truthfeed.com/soros-funded-group-gave-50k-to-radical-group-antifa-who-provoked-berkeley-riot/50542/
>The Alliance for Global Justice, an organization funded by the Tides Foundation — a George Soros -backed charity – gave $50,000 to help fund a radical-left group that used violence to shut down an event at the University of California-Berkeley featuring Milo Yiannopoulos.
He owns all type of NGOs which then indirectly fund these "grassroots" movements. He specialises in regime change and is trying to do it in the US.
Banned
User was banned for this post
User was banned by: Spunky
Reason: Take your conspiracy shitposts to /tinfoil/ where they belong.
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Simon Brundlenutch - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 10:57:44 EST ID:EnRM9IHw No.157486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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...and then you have Madrid Antifa actual declaring
>MADRID FOR SOROS

DC Leaks revealed his Open Society Foundation had 3pages at least of MEP member that were allied to him. This agent of the Rothschilds sponsors political movements on all levels.
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Augustus Blurrystock - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:11:31 EST ID:IOxvwnvd No.157487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157486
Calling them movements is not accurate. They are subverting society generally to encourage a lower level of discourse. Divide and conquer; they are the divide portion.
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Sidney Wepperpone - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:13:04 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157485
>rt
>zerohedge
>truthfeed

Why don't you source the aliens that live in GOACID's cornhole too?
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Walter Honeyford - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:18:17 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157488
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Fanny Clayham - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:56:35 EST ID:Sgx5JDbI No.157490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157485
Oh sweetie no. Those are all fake news. You poor thing. Don't know your ass from your face.
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Angus Sinnerdad - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:55:31 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157486
>Anti-Fascist
>Open support to and backing from a man who actually served in the Nazi party arresting fellow Jews with fake passports and sending them to concentration camps
>"It was the best time in my life." -George Soros on working with the Nazi Party.
>Controls more wealth than all of the "1%" combined.

No guize, we're totally a liberal organization that just wants equality... SHUT DOWN THAT MEN'S TALK ON SUICIDE! IT'S FASCIST!
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Nell Simmerstone - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:42:10 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157496
Funny, Soros was 14 when the war ENDED.
I had no idea the NAZIs recruited 12 year-olds.
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Walter Honeyford - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:59:16 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157496
>>Anti-Fascist
>liberal organization

Oh, another ignorant guy who doesn't know elementary political definitions.
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John Pittcocke - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:06:52 EST ID:swJkxz4K No.157500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157498
>I had no idea the NAZIs recruited 12 year-olds.

The nazi party had the hitler youth, which recruited boys from ages to 10 to 14. You mongoloid.
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Angus Sinnerdad - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:17:08 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157498
https://youtu.be/HXqty2rkUDY?t=423

>>157499
>liberal organization
>Oh, another ignorant guy who doesn't know elementary political definitions.
Antifa is full of feminists, gender rainbow proponents, radicalized minorities and freedom of speech opponents.
Are you telling me this is a conservative organization?
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Ian Hackleshaw - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:22:06 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157502

And you're implying they're full of capitalists?

Stop posting and do some homework.
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Angus Sinnerdad - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:25:56 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157503
Antifa is full of college aged indoctrinated drones, it is the militant arm of the SJW movement and don't act like it isn't.

You are the very definition of Lenin's useful idiot.
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Ian Hackleshaw - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:30:25 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157504

>it is the militant arm of the SJW movement and don't act like it isn't.

Again, do some homework. Antifa is socialistic af, no matter what American college retards or 18 year old neo-fascists thinks.

>You are the very definition of Lenin's useful idiot.

Wew.
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Angus Sinnerdad - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:37:51 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Again, do some homework. Antifa is socialistic af, no matter what American college retards or 18 year old neo-fascists thinks.

Oh, oh are we going to argue semantics now to deflect the point?
Yeah, because socialism and liberals today are totally opposed in their views and goals.
I never see the same short pudgy multi-hued haired girls in both Antfi-masks and bearing their flabby chests with "DOWN THE THE PATRIARCHY" written on it.
Antifa and college liberalism have nothing to do with each other... nope.

Also:
In political jargon, a useful idiot is a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause whose goals of which they are not fully aware, and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause.
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Oliver Hongershaw - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:12:06 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.157509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157506

Lenin despised liberals, you anus. Americans really can't into politics.

nb
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Sidney Bimmlespear - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:27:57 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am literally astonished how Antifa apologists in a thread on Antifa blockading a college campus and getting run out are attempting to state that Antifa has no connection to college campuses.

And that somehow Antifa has no connection to liberal college culture even though Antifa is full of liberal college students.

Like, what.
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Barnaby Gittingbene - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:58:10 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157510
Most of the Antifa I have seen are just rebranded Anarchists and gutter punks.
Fuck off Trumpkin.
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John Cellykork - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 03:44:00 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hol up, are you telling me it is another thread where a fucktarded faggot American cunt doesn't understand what a liberal is?

Newsflash. A liberal is a republican who doesn't believe in jewish fairytales. They are pretty much the same in other ways.
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Archie Saddlelock - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:38:47 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157506
>>157510
>Antifa is full of liberal college students
>Yeah, because socialism and liberals today are totally opposed in their views and goals.
I really feel like calling you retarded but you catch more bugs with honey than with vinegar. So listen up, son: socialism is as removed from liberalism, as it is from fascism. You are being very ignorant, objectively wrong and politically illiterate, amigo. Do they not teach about politics in your nation's primary or secondary education? (serious question)

>short pudgy multi-hued haired girls
>flabby chests with "DOWN THE THE PATRIARCHY"
Ok, it seems you digest most of your politics through chans and not theory. Is that correct?

Stop using pejorative terms and learn a little bit about statescience.
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Archie Saddlelock - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:42:22 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157513
>They are pretty much the same in other ways.
People don't understand that both Dems and Reps are economically neoliberal. It's quite astonishing how the average joe is so unaware of the political foundation of their own society
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Shit Grandhall - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:51:52 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.157516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157515
>It's quite astonishing
is it? i mean the kinds of threads these people make are these ones with "based stick man," who don't have the mental capacity to separate anarchists/black bloc/punks/antifa. do you really think they'd have the capacity for deeper, more meaningful political differentiation?
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Hedda Brublingbed - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:17:24 EST ID:Xfqi41BQ No.157518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157444
someone explain this in two sentences or less please without injecting your agenda. This is the news board, inform me or shut the fuck up.
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Hedda Blytheway - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:32:37 EST ID:u5H7BBIJ No.157519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157518

Two different rallies with wildly differing opinions could not resist taunting each other repeatedly until both rallies clashed. Nothing serious yet though as you can see improvised weapons are being used by some, though a vast majority are fight fights/pepper spray.
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Hedda Blytheway - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:34:08 EST ID:u5H7BBIJ No.157520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157519

Fist fights* Also police seem content to just let both rallies beat each other up and burn themselves out.
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Cornelius Govingcocke - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:26:43 EST ID:R1yHma3R No.157521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157462
>organize better
lol no hope there.
>better effort to pick people off
what so singling out poeple in the crowd and dragging them to the back of your lines to safely gang up on them and thoring bombs was not a good effort? seemed like you were trying hard and you still got beat by nothing more than fists and feet. Not only that but you showed up to the event looking to fight and now it's like woah man you gunna get sued for punching a woman. fuck you faggot come fight me 1 v 1 in an honorable duel.
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Cornelius Govingcocke - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:29:29 EST ID:R1yHma3R No.157522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157518
just go check youtubes many reporters. Tim pool for your true neutral view point
sargon of dickad for a seemingly right side view but the irony here is sargon considers him self a classical liberal. you antifags should probably learn what that is.
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Graham Bumblepadge - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:32:32 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157522
>implying you or anyone else even knows what that completely bastardized word means anymore
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Sidney Bimmlespear - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:59:09 EST ID:1ISiNw3z No.157525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157521
Don't worry bro, their only defense in this thread at this point is to attack our meaning of the word liberal, "oh but the classical definition of liberal..."

Let's look at their speeches at Berkeley...
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3c1_1492610287
"Fascism, bluh bluh bluh Trans-Rights, bluh bluh bluh *feminists in the background jeering*

Nope, this group and college liberals have nothing to do with each other... you see because the CLASSICAL definition of liberal....
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John Cellykork - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:59:16 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157522
Sargon is a fucking retarded Redditor who should just eat a shotgun.
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Archie Saddlelock - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:32:21 EST ID:NXRGyLOd No.157530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157525
>CLASSICAL definition of liberal
When discussing politics you ought only use the academic definitions. Or else you'll sound dumb
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Ebenezer Hecklehall - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:18:27 EST ID:Sgx5JDbI No.157531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157522
You know Sargon literally just makes shit up, right?
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Emma Gebberwell - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:26:25 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157529
>Sargon is a fucking retarded Redditor who should just eat a shotgun.

That sentence was redundant.
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Matilda Mazzlekit - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 21:21:37 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ITT: Retards trolling Retards trolling Retards trolling Retards....
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George Secklenere - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:08:04 EST ID:ZWy+evlr No.157539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157513
liberals are conservatives who eat kale
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Betsy Drigglepadging - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:23:36 EST ID:okcxXpDl No.157544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157530
The Americans have their party colors mixed up as well.

I guess the moral of the story is that the economic left varies culturally from country to country.
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Rebecca Claddlekodging - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:43:00 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.157547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157525
wait what in the hell did that video have to do with antifa?

>bluh bluh bluh
intellectually at the end of your rope i see.
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Frederick Ficklewill - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:31:27 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157544

Nah. I remember back when this place was basically American libertardians and jaded burnout socialists arguing. And hey even they knew what terms actually meant.

This shit is new wave ignorants from the future. It's been out of control since Gamergate.
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Phineas Nicklefield - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:36:11 EST ID:Il6+YHGF No.157552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157544
The parties have only had those colors for the past 17 years. Before 2000, red or blue standing for either party was switched at every election cycle, and was sometimes different between different news networks. But the colors as they were in 2000 became the permanent ones because of how protracted that cycle became.

Also, in red-scare america, when your enemy is already wanting to paint you as 'pink commies' clinging to red international leftist symbolism would be suicidal.
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Rebecca Hollerlit - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:10:38 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157550
Oh god, I just want the 2012 Ron Paul LEGALIZE IT FAGGOT brotendos back.

At least when those guys shitposted, the shitposts were good.
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Frederick Ficklewill - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:55:17 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157553

I know rite? Good times.
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Eliza Tillingdock - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:29:00 EST ID:i2SzqmZt No.157556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157553
I'm still here. I'm just politically apathetic. I think a lot of us have just disengaged with politics considering how fake and stupid it all is, and that there will never be a chance of a utopian society in the US, whether it's libertarian or socialist.
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Frederick Ficklewill - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:41:31 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157556

But at least we can all agree on that arguing against stupidity is good, right?

Like I was on the leftie side back then as I am now but hell nowadays I really want you guys back. You where cool opponents after all. At the very least you didn't shuffle us in the same booth as SJW transvestite stallion man-hating feminazis.

Or else the site will look like a retard-fest unlike anything.
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Eliza Tillingdock - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:50:23 EST ID:i2SzqmZt No.157559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157558
Yeah idk. I agree with a lot of socialist ideas and I agree with a lot of libertarian ideas. I think they both have their merits. I might even lean more towards the socialist type stuff, just because of the modern climate with big business, etc. I will always think that Ron Paul was our greatest option though :) He showed a real sense of integrity that is rare. Rand Paul is cool too, just not as cool. Though I'm not certain of Bernie, I know a lot of people saw that in him as well.
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Cornelius Snoddale - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:08:07 EST ID:KCqfkECQ No.157560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
According to Alex jones weed is stronger now cause or soros. Between antifa and chronic I have to say I like the man's work.
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Caroline Sunnerkatch - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:45:25 EST ID:swJkxz4K No.157561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157560
>According to Alex jones

Sigh...
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Hamilton Bodgefield - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:55:54 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.157562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157552
>Also, in red-scare america, when your enemy is already wanting to paint you as 'pink commies' clinging to red international leftist symbolism would be suicidal.

this, so fucking hard.

to any socialist minded people listening who want a more socialistic america: STOP CALLING IT WHAT IT IS. the only way socialism can in any way move forward in the US is the same way China bullshits about still aspiring to communism while pushing capitalism full steam ahead. disengage from all its old symbols etc.
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William Chashsark - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:51:30 EST ID:+5q0zMgm No.157563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157562
Well then you just give the right more ammunition. Bernie got tore to pieces when it came to his "democratic socialism" schtick. It comes off as insincere or like you're trying to hide or lie about your intentions or beliefs.
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Edwin Dondledutch - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:20:00 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157563
>Well then you just give the right more ammunition. Bernie got tore to pieces when it came to his "democratic socialism" schtick.

He did? Also, thats exactly what Sanders supports, Democratic Socialism

Are you unaware that's a real thing?
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William Chashsark - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:43:45 EST ID:+5q0zMgm No.157565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157564
Yes I'm aware that's a real thing, my point is that his half assed approach and beating around the bush made him seem inauthentic, like he was holding back. And the right saw that.
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Hamilton Bodgefield - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:28:22 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.157566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157563
no, he was too upfront about it. the exact opposite. he specifically used the term "socialism" (even if only as a part of democratic socialism), and that gave the right more ammunition than anything.

>SEE?! SEE?!
>he admits it, he's a SOCIALIST
>that's basically COMMUNISM BRO
>ENJOY UR BREADLINES M80 LOL WELCOME TO THE GULAGS amirite
>he's basically stalin 2.0
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Archie Murdham - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:51:54 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157565

As the poster said above, you can't run for US pres and declare yourself as being anywhere near socialism. It's political suicide.

Frankly it's amazing Bernie did as well as he did, despite him being rather out-of-the-closet so to speak.
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Oliver Pabbernid - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:46:03 EST ID:0g2Ypd/G No.157568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bernie is a democratic cocialist but he never aimed at anything more than social democracy. Americans are way too retarded to understand political definitions
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Eugene Heshlock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:18:00 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157566
Dude, they literally played footage of Bernie praising Fidel Castro in the middle of a debate, and his popularity only went up.
Red baiting wasn't going to work any more than calling Trump a Nazi did.
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Archie Murdham - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:43:42 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157569

Point is that in the democratic race for pres nominee he would never reach as far as he needed. Far too many old shits in the democratic party still.

In the presidential campaign, maybe he'd won against a classic Republican nominee. Last election was all about fucking the establishment and rocking the boat after all. I am still amazed that Clinton never realized this. Wow she'd must've been far too up her own asshole during the campaign

Bernie against Trump though, I don't know. They where both about the same but still polar opposites.
Now we know that Trump was just another stooge, who'd know how Bernie would act in office?
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Lydia Murdwater - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:46:21 EST ID:N8vbANQ5 No.157571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157567
>you can't run for US pres and declare yourself as being anywhere near socialism.
>Frankly it's amazing Bernie did as well as he did
No it isn't, it just shows you were all wrong about that dumb "socialism = guaranteed loss" meme. The two corporate parties have spent decades insisting that anything to the left of them is a no-sell but when someone proves that wrong in spectacular fashion, rather then questioning whether that "common knowledge" was just empty self-serving rhetoric to preemptively discourage legitimate challenge to the status quo, you just shrug your shoulders and go "ionno lol its amazing"??? The same people and the same prevailing wisdom that took it as a given that a socialist would get nowhere were wrong about Trump's chances, wrong about Brexit, wrong about Iraq, and caught totally off guard by every new thing to come out of the internet age.

You sure you don't want to consider whether the prevailing wisdom might have been bullshit all along.
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Archie Murdham - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:53:57 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157571

I'm arguing from historical perspective, which powerful in social context.

Who knows where current American plebiscite currents will take the political discourse to. Was the American public so desperate for fucking the corporate establishment that they'd vote a socialist candidate into office? We'd never know until the next election.
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Ebenezer Paddlewell - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 18:44:54 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157571
This is America; where conservatives want to cut all social programs, ban abortion, cut taxes, and increase military spending, and liberals want more government oversight.
Labels and policy are entirely unrelated, so the question isn't "can a candidate with socialistic policies get elected", but whether the label "socialist" helps or hurts a candidate's chances of getting elected.

Most Americans believe all Americans should have equal access to education.
If you call it meritocratic where ones performance determines their outcome, they'll approve of it.
But if you call that socialism, a large chunk of Americans will tell you it's punishing success, they worked hard to move to this school district with a higher average income, they should be able to use their income to ensure their child gets a better education, etc.

As most Americans define capitalism as "you can buy and sell stuff", it's really not hard to dress anything up as capitalism.
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Cyril Drizzlekare - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:23:21 EST ID:eoYkc2OT No.157576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Soon, the Antifa blackshirts, as veterans of the Battle of Inauguration and the Battle of Berkeley, will gain enough experience to become a credible threat to trash cans, parking meters, bicycles, and storefront windows.

Maybe concepts about leadership, unit cohesion, hierarchy, command structure, combat training, and logistics will penetrate their thick skulls.
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Caroline Gepperdin - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 00:50:11 EST ID:ggPMpntG No.157577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157531
>makes shit up
Sargon actually cites his sources. You might think he draws the wrong conclusions but he CITES his sources in the description box.
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James Hiffingtudge - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 03:49:10 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.157578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157577
>Sargon actually cites his sources.
He doesn't read them, though.
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Ian Cattingfield - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 07:43:32 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157578

This is a problem with a lot of these pundits. They use sources only to build up legitimacy around their own claims, not to make their arguments any more air-tight or thought-out.

Stefan Molyneux is notorious at this for example. In one vid he tried to apply the biological r/K selection theory to make conclusions about left and right wing voters. However, the biological and sociological studies he referred to came to opposite conclusions than what he himself did. At times his "reading" of the studies were factually wrong.
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Shit Fuckingdale - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:46:01 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157579
Well, what do you expect from modernist fuckups still pretending like it's the 1900's?
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Augustus Trotworth - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:17:59 EST ID:iVpTy+7u No.157581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157577
You mean like when he tried to dispute college rape statistics, because that's apparently his priority, and he sited the wrong study, berated the wrong study for being conducted as a survey and then included for no reason we should trust a different study with lower numbers which was also a survey?

He's for stupid people who love being wrong. I can understand if you can't help but be stupid, but try to stop loving being wrong.
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Jack Nengerway - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:48:59 EST ID:JLk/EU4b No.157582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157576

They're too busy taking facebook selfies in their home made tacti-cool clown costumes in order to do any of that shit.
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Hamilton Goodshit - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 11:19:11 EST ID:0g2Ypd/G No.157583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157579
The issues is that people are so lazy that they rely on uneducated people telling them what to believe through fucking youtube. You don't see Noam Chomsky or Slavoj Zizek make youtube videos about ZOMG END OF DA WERLD!!!!111
It's absolutely incredible that people are so quick to eat up whatever some cunt on a screen tells them. Opinion youtube needs to be fucking ban. Just about every single person in the west have a device with almost all the information in the world but nah watch that 5 minute video explaining why repitles are controlling your mind
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Cornelius Bruzzlenudging - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 11:27:37 EST ID:5ySAU86k No.157584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157569
you mean popularity during the democratic primaries, which he lost.

this might appeal to those farther to the left but will undoubtedly cost you in a general election. americans definitely aren't ready for the "socialist" label.
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Shit Fuckingdale - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:34:49 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157581
It's hilarious to see people taking Sargon seriously, because I remember coming across his posts on history forums before he even started making videos on youtube, and he was always getting his butt blasted by people that were much more knowledgable on subjects.

The fucking cunt thinks he knows everything about everything, but he doesn't realise that for that kind of polyglot knowledge, you need to be a fucking genius. Which he isn't.
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Ian Cattingfield - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:43:33 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157583

Exactly. There's degrees of literacy, and knowing what source of info is shit or not is one of them.

A lot of these people make a living talking on youtube. Think about that for a second. They provide a service to be consumed first and foremost, not enlightening info and fresh perspectives. That alone is a huge red flag.
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Priscilla Subberweck - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 10:54:00 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157586
But they said that they're the only trustworthy sources of information and that everyone else is an liberal globalist Illuminati brainwasher!
AND YOURE ONE OF THEM, ARENT YOU?!?!
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Priscilla Subberweck - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 11:03:13 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157584
Uh, no. By every metric we have to measure this sort of thing, he is objectively the most popular politician in America right now.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328214-poll-sanders-most-popular-senator-in-the-us
He just sold out a stadium in the middle of Kentucky. Just a few days ago. Most of his rallies are overflowed because thousands always show up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlVcHDyU3ws

He killed Trump in every poll, the same polls where Clinton was typically somewhere within the margin of error with Trump.

Just because a bunch of centrist, corporatist shit heads declared him "unelectable" does not make that in any way a fact. No matter how loudly Clinton lemmings try to scream it.

Anyone who thinks he only had support from "radical" left wing 18 year old white men wasn't paying attention. Which probably explains why so many of the people who push that narrative were so utterly flummoxed by the fact that Clinton lost.
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Priscilla Subberweck - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 11:08:54 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157570
I personally know several lifelong Republicans who would have gladly voted for Sanders over Trump, and only voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary.

Sanders would have eaten him alive in the debates. Because unlike Clinton, he isn't a fucking robot.
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David Wollerfuck - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:31:04 EST ID:iVpTy+7u No.157600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sanders might of won, but I really don't think there's any accounting for how his past would of played in the general election. To democrats being a life long activist is noble, in a general election, well in this general election they voted for a guy who spent most of his campaign talking about the good ol' days when you could beat protesters half to death.

The thing with Hillary, is that she's one of the more uniquely vilified people in American history, for decades every real misstep was compounded by countless conspiracy theories. And it still took Russian interference to give Trump one of the more pathetic wins in the electoral college and one of the biggest losses in the popular vote.

All that said, have we already forgotten that Trump got less votes than either Romney or McCain? This election, for democrats was lost by failing to inspire the Obama block to come out. Maybe Bernie could of done it, though there were a lot of reports of his supporters not voting down ballot which makes it sound like they weren't as politically charged as they said they were, and he failed to appeal to minority voters (who he continues to push away).
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Eliza Wonningbury - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:44:51 EST ID:0g2Ypd/G No.157601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It'd be interested to see if Bernie runs again in 4 years (if he aint dead by then)
He's already a houshold name and he is clearly capable of leading a social democratic movement against the neoliberal establishment. America will probably just end up with another neolib like Trump and Clinton, as is the case every election since FDR.
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Lydia Beckleman - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 19:30:52 EST ID:5p06LIn/ No.157602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157598
interesting. i honestly still wouldn't push the use of the terms "socialism" and its related iconigraphy though. doubt that's exactly what makes him popular.
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David Gubbershit - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:18:16 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157602
No, it's not. But the things that actually do make him popular are effective enough that no one cares about the fact that he identifies as a "democratic socialist"
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Cedric Nuffingbanks - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:16:58 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157601
They will run Hillary again. Trust me. That or some Clintonista for whom they will also expect a coronation.
Trump is literally winning due to Dem incompetence.
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Augustus Chorrybury - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:41:50 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If they put another establishment democrat up, they're fucking retarded. It's clear that today is the day of the outsider.

No one expected Obama to win. Half-black guy in the goddamn Americunt States of the KKK. But he was the outsider, and that's why he won.

Same sort of goes for Trump, except Trump didn't obliterate the opposition. He just got lucky by having a lot of tiny factors in his favour causing a little landslide giving him the win.
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Augustus Chorrybury - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:43:53 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157609
Fuck I need to stop submitting posts before I finish my train of thought.

Trump didn't obliterate the opposition in the actual presidential elections, but he did in the internal Republican election whatever the word it is Americans use for it.
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Basil Fidgestag - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:56:33 EST ID:aIivaRsS No.157611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157610
Primary.
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Archie Billingville - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:55:21 EST ID:1qATaKpJ No.157620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157609
Very true. Despite how he actually governed Obama ran on a platform far to the left of his own party.
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Cedric Lightwell - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:44:59 EST ID:ZHHMC0O8 No.157621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157609
>No one expected Obama to win. Half-black guy in the goddamn Americunt States of the KKK. But he was the outsider, and that's why he won.
No, he won because...
  1. Bush had a bad 2 terms, meaning a Democrat HAS TO win.
  2. He was Mulatto but pretends to be black. He got 99% of the black vote because he's not white. Hillary got like 70% because black people are notoriously Democrat.

>Americunt States of the KKK.
That's funny, because we don't have any KKK-relevant problems, or white supremacy problems of any sort, for that matter, and undoubtedly the vast majority of our systemic racism has been phased out.
Idk what to tell you, liberal fake news plays up the USA to have all these problems that stem from white people, but to be blunt, it's just blatantly not true nor backed up by facts.
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Nicholas Tootway - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:03:21 EST ID:Fv5NCn99 No.157622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trump is a fall man. He wasn't supposed to win, according to the media, and the NYSE wasn't supposed to rally when he won, according to pundits. That's as obvious as a tell as you will get.
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Archie Billingville - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:09:21 EST ID:1qATaKpJ No.157623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157621
Yep white people arent a problem. Move along nothing to see here.
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Cedric Nuffingbanks - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:28:26 EST ID:MGe9R5O1 No.157628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157621
> the vast majority of our systemic racism has been phased out.
Idk what to tell you, liberal fake news plays up the USA to have all these problems that stem from white people, but to be blunt, it's just blatantly not true nor backed up by facts.
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Eliza Warringdock - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:44:59 EST ID:KjdZJ104 No.157629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157623

Has to be a troll. No one is this retarded. I really want to explain why you are fucking retarded but then ill just be biting the troll bait.

I'll leave it half- bit. You're a fuckin mongoloid
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Emma Summerdale - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:23:00 EST ID:+5q0zMgm No.157634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157621
That's totally untrue. The aryan brotherhood and the KKK are both alive and well, and Mr Trump and the far right media that followed him made it seem okay for them to crawl out of their holes and back into the spotlight. You had to be under a rock or in denial to miss all of that. Not to mention that the Aryan brotherhood has been a very big criminal element in the US for a long time, they're just something that for the most part is swept under the rug. Nobody wants to talk about that. They are mostly just a prison gang, but they're still a gang when they get out, and they deal drugs and have connections to other gangs like motorcycle clubs.
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Alice Sommlewatch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:40:32 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157634
>KKK
>alive and well
If by "alive and well" you mean desperately clinging to life, then yeah, sure.
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Alice Sommlewatch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 06:45:26 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
and goddamn I almost feel bad for you guys who bought into the race baiting so fucking hard

nb
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Fucking Huffingsten - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:17:53 EST ID:iVpTy+7u No.157642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157640
http://fusion.net/the-number-of-kkk-groups-in-america-more-than-doubled-l-1793854804
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwjs06up2L_TAhXprlQKHR6pBmYQFgglMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2016%2F06%2F30%2Fthe-ku-klux-klan-is-slowly-rising-again%2F&usg=AFQjCNHuFsPtRudInzNSQ--LaxT4wP8gAA&sig2=Txt887DhbMZtoqxaGS94Aw
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/kkk-membership-increases-with-trump-election/
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Anti-Antifa - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:13:20 EST ID:0zbfTtI9 No.157645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Antifa ~ lack of dignity, respect and balls. On the hunt for Antifa virtually as we speak. Fight your way through the forest like pits of Moldylocks.

#Anti-Antifa
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Alice Sommlewatch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:01:53 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157642
huh, no shit, i havent bothered to look them up in years because i figured any day the 98 year old redneck who was the last remaining member would die and that'd be that.

as for them coming back, it's almost as if identity politics is a horrible cancer that needs to be excised from the body of society in order to prevent it's slow painful death. anybody involved in it needs to have their shit slapped forthrightly.
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Jack Blepperstone - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:35:57 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157645
You're saying antifa doesn't have balls, while you "hunt virtually"?
In what world does it take more courage to complain online than to go out and risk your health fighting those who would start lynching minorities again if they were permitted to organize freely?

>Anti-Antifa
I think the term you're looking for is either fascist or confused idiot.
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Thomas Horrystidging - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:50:35 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just when I think the autistic the future stormfront immigrant crowd can't get any cringier, I come across this thread again.
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Wesley Hettingwater - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:57:06 EST ID:1fIHantD No.157651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157650

I'd like to say just "ignore them" but against dynamic IPs what can a mortal man do?
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Lillian Bredgebanks - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:16:53 EST ID:SBbL96he No.157652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Strange to see so many anarchist sympathisers ITT

Actually having sympathy for students with nerd rage intolerance is pretty lame.
Oh look here's another.

Independent Media doesnt even have to try to make you You take this personal? You consider yourself one of them? what the fuck is wrong with you!? look bad
https://www.infowars.com/instant-justice-antifa-assaults-journalist-in-dc-gets-arrested-immediately/
Banned
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User was banned by: Spunky
Reason: infoshit
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Esther Gosslelatch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:37:50 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157649
>lynching minorities again if they were permitted to organize freely?
is that honestly who you think they're fighting? seriously?

jesus christ they dont go to klan rallies, they go to the demonstrations of people they disagree with and screech nazi at them. like you're seriously off your fuckin' rocker if you think this berkely thing, for example, had any real fascists there.

>I think the term you're looking for is either fascist or confused idiot.
pic related, i guess
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Esther Gosslelatch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:41:32 EST ID:BbZVAod5 No.157655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157654
nb i was obviously being hyperbolic i know there was that one white nationalist dude who punched the dreadlocks girl and there was almost certainly some others, my point was it doesnt become a fascist get together just because you can pick a handful out of the crowd. same way antifa doesnt magically become entirely trust fund commies just because you could find a bunch of them, too.
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Jenny Blishsotch - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:59:36 EST ID:ZWy+evlr No.157656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157652
>infowars

nigga please
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Jarvis Cunningmerk - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 00:57:02 EST ID:i2SzqmZt No.157658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157640
They're not desperately clinging to life, there are still plenty of ignorant retards, and with the recent resurgence of racist cockroaches coming out from hiding, i'm sure their numbers have gone up. I'm not saying that they're everywhere, but they're still around.
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Reuben Sangershit - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:04:02 EST ID:qetGCKL9 No.157660 Report Quick Reply
>>157658

Just more reason to take up the black and chase the little pests back under the rocks they crawled out from under. Then light them on fire.
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Wesley Shakebanks - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 03:44:37 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157652
Mmmmmaaaaahh SLAYER! SLAAAAAYERRRRRRRR!

Thanks Spunky.
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Molly Gabblebire - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:02:31 EST ID:aWLQZgap No.157663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157660
Take up the black what?
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Samuel Murdwell - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:15:20 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157663
I think he means smoke heroin
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Nigel Nashwud - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:20:07 EST ID:eoYkc2OT No.157665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Back in the 60s people fighting for free speech were lumped in with the communists.
Now in the 10s people fighting for free speech were lumped in with the fascists.
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Wesley Shakebanks - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:42:06 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157665
>people fighting for free speech

I didn't know spamming fake infographics ripped from circlejerk, Facebook and stormfront is considered fighting for free speech nowadays.
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Alice Cheffingchadging - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:18:34 EST ID:1qATaKpJ No.157668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157665
Wanting to make every interaction so toxic no one wants to participate sounds like the opposite of free speech.
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Nathaniel Gecklechutch - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:53:22 EST ID:kOO0oq2A No.157669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157667

I think that guy does cocaine
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Charles Brookworth - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 20:29:25 EST ID:sa35FWYK No.157670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157665
>fighting for free speech
it was also about ethics in games journalism, right? lol.
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Sidney Padgeditch - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:33:45 EST ID:05HH3Euo No.157671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157668
Everyone seems to have forgotten that people can only deal with toxicity before they just run out of energy and just stop caring about everything. Especially if both sides are contributing to it.
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Ernest Pettinglock - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:45:06 EST ID:mvx5AAOh No.157672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157671
Eating seeds as a pastime activity
The toxicity of our city, our city

You, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder
Now somewhere between the sacred silence
Sacred silence and sleep
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep
Disorder, disorder, disorder
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Hedda Maddlebury - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:24:24 EST ID:eoYkc2OT No.157677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157670
> it was also about ethics in games journalism, right?
Is that meant as a reference to the gamer movement where wikileaks has been helping and providing tips since 2014 to deal with journalists?
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Hedda Maddlebury - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:31:05 EST ID:eoYkc2OT No.157678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157671
> Everyone seems to have forgotten that people can only deal with toxicity before they just run out of energy and just stop caring about everything. Especially if both sides are contributing to it.

ACLU is getting involved due to the toxicity. And the ones attacking ACLU for getting involved in all this only demonstrated the need for more free speech advocates to get drawn in.
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Polly Gopperback - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:43:13 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157677
It was a reference to the fact that gamergate only used "ethics in games journalism" to apply a thin veneer of legitimacy on what was MRA vs facebook-feminist bullshit.

If it had anything at all to do with ethics in games journalism, it have centered around major publishers and games journalism outlets, not some irrelevant dev that MRAs had been raiding for months beforehand, and youtube/facebook feminists.


It's an old, old tactic to claim that any mechanism which prevents one from drowning discussion they don't like in spam and irrelevant bullshit (such as false infographics from the future/circlejerk, news outlets that regularly publish bullshit, etc) is an assault on their free speech.


The right don't fight for free speech, their purpose is to get private venues to disseminate their messages while suppressing speech they don't agree with.
Just look at what has happened virtually any time in history when free speech becomes inconvenient to conserve/reactionary elements with any power at all.
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Shitting Drullerforth - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:59:05 EST ID:cbhMfSls No.157680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157679
This. Jim Sterling complained about this for ages.

The GG faggots cry endlessly about some indie game no one fucking played, and then they jump on board for Blizzards or EAs newest game that's being shilled by journalists that are LITERALLY PAID MONEY to give a game a good review.

But that doesn't matter because that was paid for in MONEY and not SEX.
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Sidney Padgeditch - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:09:47 EST ID:05HH3Euo No.157684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157679
I have no idea what that chart is trying to say. Or maybe I'm a retard.
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Emma Bongerlock - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:12:12 EST ID:iVpTy+7u No.157685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157680
>Blizzards or EAs newest game that's being shilled by youtubers and streamers that are LITERALLY PAID MONEY to give a game a good review

Fixed that for you. People who actually tend to write their reviews draw an older more discerning audience. Easily influenced tweens on the other hand like yelltubers and guys burping into the mic over live videogame footage.
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Polly Gopperback - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:40:05 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157684
It's graphing Reporters Without Borders measure of how unfree journalism is in the US.

It goes up during the Iraq war when the media wasn't reporting shit in Iraq that contradicted the LIBERATORS BRINGING FREEDOM narrative, and those who did were harassed by the executive.
It goes up again when Obama resumed that shit and electronic spying on journalists became known.

In the US, it's all soft-power shit, incentivizing journalists to work with the whitehouse by providing those whose reporting benefits the whitehouse interviews, going to them for questions, but never so much that it looks bad.
Just wait until Trump starts revoking whitehouse press passes as he pledged to do in his campaign.
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Edward Wondlesig - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:50:41 EST ID:knFhJQjN No.157687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157684

It's a graph of the measurement of press freedom over time.

As you can see, press freedoms increased from an average of 30 freedoms to an average of 40 freedoms over a period of 15 years. That's an average 10 freedoms increase and so our press is on average 35 freedoms over the past 15 years.
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Polly Gopperback - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:55:17 EST ID:B7EBVJHu No.157688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157687
https://rsf.org/en/detailed-methodology
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Emma Gerringson - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 18:48:02 EST ID:+O4CKY42 No.157689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51415E1OfTg

Live We are Change stream of Berkeley pt IV
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Charlotte Nambledale - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:34:14 EST ID:5p06LIn/ No.157690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157603
i believe sanders is/identifies as a social democrat rather than a democratic socialist. a small but important difference esp. since we're discussing bernie's use of the word "socialism".
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Matilda Pockridge - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 23:35:05 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.157691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157690
Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist, but is basically just a New Deal Democrat.
IDGAF, anyway. All these labels are stupid and just get in the way.
Just be yourself, I say.


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