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So basically... by Cyril Fanderchick - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:30:52 EST ID:JBl4ISNu No.159987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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...the only nations that best!Korea can hit are their own allies, third world island nations, the Japs, Tech-supportland, and a frozen waste. Somehow I feel slightly better for some reason.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9962585/Graphic-how-far-can-North-Koreas-missiles-reach.html

This is like when a retarded kid finds the key to daddy's gun cabinet and brags to the cool kids about how they could "totally kill you, like, for real dude. don't mess with me."

Kinda pitiable in a way...
But not that pitiable. Dude's a megalomaniacal arsehole who's actions on the world stage fuck shit up for the people he supposedly leads...
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Esther Crashway - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:59:18 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.159988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, North-Korean ICBM's are not very scary.

What is scary however, is that the first few thousands American soldiers invading North-Korea if it gets that far will all get atomized in seconds.
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Hedda Hirryfare - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:08:54 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.159990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159988
Well, none of them will be rich kids, so who fucking cares, right? We must install a Trump hotel in Pyongyang!
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Basil Wottingfoot - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:47:38 EST ID:1fIHantD No.159992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>159988

Then again it would be a perfect opportunity to actually use those billions of nuclear tax-money they got stashed in those missile silos.
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Hannah Fosslemedge - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:02:30 EST ID:0Tk0e0vX No.159994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There are 80k nukeable American troops in just Japan and Sane Korea. Also being able to kill the population of Alaska and whatever is happening on Guam is a bit of a game-changer. Then there is the fact that Kim Joffry the chubbs doesn't give a flying fuck about his peoples welfare unlike most others. The fact that he might be nuts enough to do it is being slightly counter-leveraged by electing Trump hilariously enough. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/16/nervous-kim-jong-un-trying-avoid-assassinated/
>>159992
If nukes get used it may well lead to everyone getting nukes which would massively reduce the value of US conventional forces and ability to project power. The current nuclear powers have currently and tentatively convinced everyone else to trust only them with "the great equalizer" https://muse.jhu.edu/article/53256
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Betsy Pittbanks - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:47:02 EST ID:E85Oibh2 No.159995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess nobody here knows what a missile defense system is? I mean, the US defense system is capable of fending out thousands of nukes launched all at once. EMP would be the only problem and even then, we could intercept them quickly.

North Korea wouldn't ever get a missile to touch down in 20 years. You need zerg tactics and even then, it is highly unlikely.

>Dat star wars program doe
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Frederick Bammlepack - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:32:03 EST ID:aH24pX5g No.159996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159995
1987 called, he said stop doing so much blow
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David Piblingtet - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 07:21:59 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.159998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159995
Actually, the US ICBM defense system is completely useless and the only thing it does is reassure dumbass people that never looked into how nuclear warfare works.

It's literally a joke. The only thing the US ICBM defense system can shoot down are fucking SCUD's.
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Samsara Siddhartha - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 09:25:43 EST ID:GrvwiEE5 No.159999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159998
Oh great internet expert on matters of national security, tell us of your qualifications and paygrade so that we may take your words as truth!!
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Rebecca Garringwell - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:49:52 EST ID:bbdq2zsn No.160002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159999

Everyone knows the US missile defense systems are pretty shit. Intercepting an ICBM is actually pretty fucking difficult. You're not talking about intercepting something that's shooting laterally across the planet at immense speeds but something that's moving vertically miles up and down the atmosphere at the same time. If you think 30+ year old defense systems are ready for that you've gotta be crazy mane.
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James Hiblingtitch - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:10:14 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160003
>I'm pretty sure this another right down the corner.

With the Norks, you can't be sure. Their whole nuclear and ICBM program is pretty much like some guy hacking something together in his backyard. They have a handful of experts, like 90% of their GDP goes into it, and they don't seem to be able to rapidly expand the arsenal. Their nuclear program has at best 3 or so small output nukes. None of which they say is small enough to get on an ICBM yet, though that may have changed with the new ICBMs...Point is, they are just barley getting by with what they have. My bet is that if they send over anything to the US it would be one or two missiles. Still a serious threat. Not downplaying that. The Lesser Koreans to the South are looking at Seoul being in the crosshairs of these things for sure. The idea that NK will zerg rush us with missiles is incorrect. They would attack the South and maybe shoot one or two our way as a "fuck you." They would easily run through their arsenal with just a few attacks, all of which would need to be done simultaneously, because holy shit...the US has a shit ton of white hot hate coming at ya. You don't get a second shot in this scenario.
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Eugene Sablingwill - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:35:35 EST ID:Dwn3U4hp No.160010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159998
>Actually, the US ICBM defense system is completely useless
How do you know that?
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Augustus Clayhood - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:13:37 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
im betting NK isnt suicidal and they are just playing games like always. they MUST know a war with nato or even just the states, especially if they start it, is guaranteed total obliteration for them. they cant be that stupid. right?
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Martha Dronningfoot - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 22:34:57 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.160012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160011
if push comes to shove i have feeling un would rather self-destruct than surrender. that said, i dono how willing his generals would be in that scenario.

if un suddenly were to declare war, would his generals just defect en masse/turn on him? i think that's the more crucial factor. the only thing their military brass have going for em is a) not being killed/tortured (gonnaa die anyway if there were a war), b) not having their family killed/tortured (same as a) ), and c) living a moderately comfortable life thanks to being loyal to kim (they'd have a chance at a better life if they'd could turn on un and get away with it).
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Jarvis Sevinghire - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 01:13:59 EST ID:TQI2cuN2 No.160013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even Alaska doesn't give a fuck if they get nuked. They're all like "do it faggot, we already live the apocalypse on a daily basis!"
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Augustus Clayhood - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:10:30 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160012

their only ace in the hole is holding south korea hostage. but a conventional war will be decisively won within days, their military standards are basically frozen in the 1960s. theyll send up some rusty old migs that will probably crash on their own before even reaching a target. their navy is a joke. old tanks that can be hunted down and melted once air superiority is established, etc. its a fucking bloodbath for them. but once the conventional stage has passed, they are very capable of a long ass guerilla insurgency. millions of them with aks hiding under every mountain. theyll have to be systematically and painstakingly burned out a la battle of okinawa. and so many civilian casualties. this is just a hellish situation no matter which way it goes.
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Polly Trotwell - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:38:29 EST ID:1kLMhMMJ No.160015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You think glorious leader has body doubles? I bet they wear padded suits and have kidnapped cosmetic surgeons/makeup artists do their faces.

I'm gonna laugh if/when some nation other than US/Russia/China assassinates Kim Jong Un. I really want it to be a third world country that pulls some Bay of Pigs type shit.
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Augustus Clayhood - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 02:41:04 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160015

maybe india might get sick of their shit and launch their first war since alexander the great.
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Lillian Drummlekotch - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 04:51:54 EST ID:+5q0zMgm No.160017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We're sure he doesn't have the capability to launch from submarines?
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Martha Dronningfoot - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:45:01 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.160018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160014
that depends entirely on how loyal/brainwashed the populace really is. western media likes to play up the crazier aspects of nork society, but the stories you hear from escapees indicate there is some skepticism among the general population as well. western/skorean media isn't completely shut out, there is a thriving underground market for it.

not everyone's drunk the kool-aid, so it'd be interesting to see how that'd play out.
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Cyril Brillylock - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:53:57 EST ID:Dwn3U4hp No.160019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160017
Good lord, you people are really digging for ways to make the Villian of the Month sound way scarier than they actually are.
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James Wenkinlurk - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:31:15 EST ID:1rSj1LeF No.160020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wanna know how in the fuck Israel can block nearly ever missile and rocket fired at them with their pathetic "Iron Dome" system which is just old used up US equipment from decades ago, but the United States couldn't stop a second ICBM if it shot at them from literally across the Pacific ocean covering at least a dozen US owned Pacific Islands with military installations.

Again, the only way nuclear war works is if we all as a planet go, "SAMPSON OPTION! MAD!" and everyone just nukes everything.

This thread is so full of ignorant retards, I'd expect someone to come along and say we have the nuclear capability of complete wiping out all humans and life on Earth. This is like people using Chernobyl to permanently ban nuclear power. Fucking retards man. I'm guess everyone here was too busy smoking pot in college rather than getting an education in critical thinking and learning how to spot bias and lies. Or is college the "liberal indoctrination camp?"
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Reuben Fanningweck - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:35:00 EST ID:N0GOwIpy No.160021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160020
>thinking intercepting an ICBM is as simple as intercepting ground to ground missile launched by sand ninjas
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Ebenezer Fuckinggold - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:11:25 EST ID:Ya40SaGu No.160022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160021
Why should it be easier to intercept many smaller dumb missiles over a very small distance than one larger missile flying a much greater distance over the largest ocean on earth with multiple widely-spaced islands providing additional opportunities for interception?

Are you able to explain this beyond animated gifs?
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Matilda Pittspear - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:42:31 EST ID:aH24pX5g No.160023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160022
Because ICBMs are going way faster, are Far higher up, and use countermeasures to fool MDSs.

I mean, this isn't some hypothetical thing. Look up US Missile defense tests. The only thing they could shoot down where severely impeded up ICBMs. (Which, may be the best NK could deploy to be fair...)
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Doris Cennerwell - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:02:23 EST ID:Mx1hgrnd No.160024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160023
searching for "us missile defense tests" actually brings back mostly positive results about successful tests against mock ICBMs, in fact.

intercepting ICBMs is difficult but not impossible, and is already being done at least in tests (obviously we'll never know 100% until it actually happens).

the bigger issue is with MIRVs, that rain down several or even a dozen or so warheads at a time from a single ICBM. here the problem is simply the sheer number of warheads you'd have to intercept. this is basically why mutually assured destruction is a thing, because they effectively negate anti-ICBM systems.

but that said, simple unitary ICBMs, especially less technically sophisticated ones with older countermeasures can be countered. and that's the kind of missile the norks have, if it can even be mounted with a warhead at this point.
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Thomas Hasslefoot - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:21:52 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.160025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160023
>Look up US Missile defense tests.
Could you link to one, preferably a test using NK-level missile tech conducted over the length of the entire Pacific?
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Hugh Worthingbury - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:33:40 EST ID:aH24pX5g No.160026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160025
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-missiletest-idUSKBN18Q2CU


I will concede that it was a success, but it also the first success the US has had with ICBM defense. Simulations also may not pan out in real life, and there is a question of multiple ICBMs coming.


Again, I also concede that NK ICBMs likely arn't the bleeding edge.
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Charlotte Turveyhall - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:47:31 EST ID:1rSj1LeF No.160027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160023
It is easier to shoot down bigger, higher flying targets than it is to pop hundreds of low flying bottle rockets out of the sky fam. Especially when the big ones aren't very advanced.

The US also recently tested our missile defense system with better than expected results directly in response to North Korean chest pounding. In fact at the base in Alaska we have 26 missiles ready to intercept along with another 14 that Obama has planned for. Against shitty targets like a North Korean missile, we could easily take it down in at least 3 missiles. Probably hitting on shot number one given the likely rudimentary nature.

I seriously doubt that Nork cobbles of flying metal in numbers of 1 or 2 will affect the US. It seriously requires a hundred launches or basically all out war to really fuck shit up. ICMB's also don't cross the planet in 5 seconds either. As soon as North Korea launched, we'd know, everyone else would know and everyone else would collectively blow the fuck out of their shitty nation of nothingness. This is all media hype. And nothing else.

Stop worrying about stupid shit like North Korea or Syria. It isn't a real problem for us. Our government is smart enough and far more than capable enough of eliminating such a threat before they act on it. And god forbid they did act on it before we preemptively stopped them. The US has a habit of making examples of their enemies if nothing else.
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Beatrice Hurrybetch - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 21:58:19 EST ID:Ya40SaGu No.160028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160027
Thank you. The level of fearmongering over such a ridiculous non-threat, on this board of all places, has been truly baffling.

The idea that North Korea could successfully strike any mainland US city is utterly preposterous without the entire US military all falling asleep at once.
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Martin Bottingsodge - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:27:26 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160028
>The idea that North Korea could successfully strike any mainland US city is utterly preposterous without the entire US military all falling asleep at once.
In theory, they could. Just launch an ICBM and all it has to do is get past our defenses. Which, we can all agree, are unknown at this point. I don't think anyone here even has a clue as to what our real ICBM defense system is like. Especially since I have a feeling very few people know the whole picture. Military spookery and all. So, in theory, yeah, they can get ONE hit in.

And then the US genocides the Norks with nuclear death.
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Basil Nacklepire - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:12:20 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.160030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>itt people actually believe that the us ICBM defenses work

There's a reason why Reagan and the Pentagon wanted lasers.
You cannot fucking take out an ICBM with missiles, because you'll end up with an anti-ICBM-ICBM that will cost more than a fucking nuclear bomb.
So logically, it's smarter to just forget about developing functional anti-ICBM-ICBM's and just make more ICBM's. The money left over can then be shovelled into a half-baked missile defense that anyone who doesn't keep up with nuclear warfare tech believes to be functional.
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Walter Gendleman - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:55:58 EST ID:IhEghofb No.160032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Missile defense does work. Just ask the Israelis about their iron dome. However it has always been much easier to destroy than defend. So while interceptors, and soon even lasers, are quite capable you still face the calculation of e.g. x% chance that the population of LA being incinerated by nuclear fire. The fact that that calculation needs to be made changes things(geopolitics) significantly.

Interceptor missiles are asymmetric in the bad way. They cost much more and require far more technical finesse to shoot down much cheaper and much less sophisticated attacks. Ideally ICBMs are shot down during the launch phase, at the point where you have a bunch of warheads and dummies using only gravity to hit you with high speeds x -> 100. At the point where it detonates (usually a couple of km over the surface) it is a ball of falling plasma. Missile defense is overrated and generally because it needs to be for propaganda purposes. The Norks don't have MIRVs yet but sooner or later they will. The fact that the DPRK, of all countries, can even build both nukes and ICBMs is a harbinger for global strategic thought.

tl;dr: Even a child with a gun is dangerous even if you are wearing a bullet-proof vest. It is far inferior to the scenario of having a bullet proof vest and facing off against an unarmed child.
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Basil Nacklepire - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:05:23 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.160033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160032
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU RETARDED RETARD.

The Israeli's are shooting down fucking dumb rockets and missiles build from scrap in a cave.

Do you even know what ICBM's and MIRV's are? Do you even understand the speeds these things fly at, the heights they reach, and the protective measures they carry like chaff?
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Walter Gendleman - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:37:57 EST ID:IhEghofb No.160035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160033ยจ
The point I was trying to make was that while the concept is sound what it is able to deliver in practice is not something you can feel safe behind. It was exactly what you point out that I was trying to highlight. It's like trying to shoot down a bullet aimed at you.
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Thomas Hasslefoot - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:30:56 EST ID:SsInJUYa No.160037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160033
It's like you're so focused on fearmongering and drumming up a scary foreign enemy to hate that you don't even take the time to read posts you respond to.
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Hannah Sackleshit - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:36:33 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.160038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160037
lol, this.

nork nukes aren't particularly scary or threatening at this point. we don't even know if they can miniaturize/mount nukes yet ffs.
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Martin Bottingsodge - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:05:33 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160038
Nork nukes are an issue though. Fat Boy Kim there, is insanely erratic, and pretty bloodthirsty. He has already had a minor cleansing of the top ranks. Destroyed his own uncle with an AA gun at close range.
Not so much a threat to the mainland US, but holy shit, would a nuke going off anywhere in that region fuck shit up.
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Barnaby Bonnermerk - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:15:43 EST ID:j2ClLtYH No.160040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
North korea maybe a threat but look at the reasons why they are the way they are.

Ever since the korean war their isolationist state has formed from the ashes of being independent and the fear of a foreign power influening their country via coups, forming a puppet government and ultimately the formation of a corrupt central bank and huge media conglomerates.


Look outside of your own media blanket and youll find most of rhe saber rattling is done by the United States. The race to an ICBM is a fear response, the only way to get the US to back the fuck off.

Iran is treated much the same way, and if syria was knocked off, western powers would have a clear home run to them. Thats why they sent so many soldieers to syria.

Its also why iran became defensive after the failed 89 cia coup, its also why turkey entered into ceasefire negotiations with russia after the cia tried to install the gulens into power when the whole movement is about compatibility between islam and western styled economic thought.

The US has really fucked the world under the guise of freedom its just sad to see so many Americans blissfully unaware of the mind fuck.
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Martin Bottingsodge - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:00:45 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160040
I am well aware that much of this is a product of our own fuckery.
It doesn't negate the core issue though.
Mad Fatty with a nuke.
Plus, we have our own Mad Fatty who likes to say all sorts of shit, and sends Rex Bannon to glare at them as a deterrent.
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Martin Sungergold - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:20:03 EST ID:1kLMhMMJ No.160042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What would China do if America cozied up to their little plaything NorKo all sleazy-dirty?
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Nigel Pittstone - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 06:39:48 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.160046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160037
Fearmongering? Drumming up a scary foreign enemy? Quit projecting you fucking retarded cocksucking the future immigrant.

I'm fucking explaining why fucking anti-ballistic missile defenses are fucking bullshit, you fucking retard. READ.

North-Korea is a non-factor when it comes to nuclear war. They'll only use their nuclear weapons defensively or locally.
But that doesn't change the fact that anti-ballistic missile defenses are FUCKING BULLSHIT. As long as railguns or giant EM radiation emitters like lasters aren't possible, you can't shoot down modern ballistic missiles.
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Edwin Blappertine - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 08:10:50 EST ID:kwQHbRfQ No.160047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160038
Actually they are a big deal because while most nations aren't even prepared to risk significant military casualties, let alone civilian, the norks wouldn't blink at a million dead kids. It's not so much the fact that anyone believes that they will use them in practice as using them for blackmail and extortion that worries people in practice.
>>160040
Yeah, the Soviets installed Kim il Sung to be their puppet buffer dictator. Then they lost control of him and collapsed. The yanks didn't arm the southerners because they feared that they would invade the north due to superior resources. Then the opposite happened and the DPRK has been a sort of 1984-monarchy/aristocracy ever since.
WARNING: Goggling what the norks are doing to their own people may cause emotional distress. Keep away from children and POTUS
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Nigel Pittstone - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:53:20 EST ID:U9GtNET1 No.160053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160040
>its also why turkey entered into ceasefire negotiations with russia after the cia tried to install the gulens into power when the whole movement is about compatibility between islam and western styled economic thought.

Are you fucking retarded? Erdogan cooked up that "uprising" by himself, so he could begin pulling power towards himself.

There's no difference between Gulen's ideology and Erdogan's ideology. They both used to run the same political party. Erdogan is just using his former political buddy as a scapegoat while he's trying to recreate the Ottoman empire.
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Martin Sungergold - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 14:10:04 EST ID:1kLMhMMJ No.160056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160055

Now is just the time between the past and the future. This will always be the middle ages, until there is only "end times" Human extinction. So we're always gonna be the orcs/orkz of Earth, sans green skin.
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Oliver Dallywater - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:52:55 EST ID:+YM3q/rQ No.160061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Im more scared of america droppinf more nukes, theyre the only country that has actually proved theyre willingly to use it.
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Isabella Tootville - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 01:25:47 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160061
This is a valid concern
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Cedric Wecklenadging - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:59:03 EST ID:qTVo/DhY No.160064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160055

Turks surely didn't. They all seem to believe retarded fairytales about their past how all of their conquests were justified and how they were always strong and proud no matter how miserably they failed during WWI.
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Cedric Nenningture - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:17:01 EST ID:11zj0ImD No.160067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160053
Erdogan being behind the coup is a bit tinfoil. Turkey has a history of coups specifically against wannabe Islamic strongmen. Erdogan is just using it (or at most allowed it to happen) specifically because he is an aspiring Islamic strongman.
>>160061
Trump might be a toddler but that aside the USA is heavily invested in the current nuclear paradigm (as is any current nuclear power) which is exactly why the Norks going nuclear is such an issue.
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Cyril Worthingford - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:21:42 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.160070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160067
>Erdogan being behind the coup is a bit tinfoil.

It's different this time though, first of all there is close to zero evidence of who exactly did it yet. Even if Erdogan didn't orchestrate it, it was awfully convenient for him that it happened. Thousands of people have been locked up so far, with plans underway to reinstate the death penalty.
It's really fucked up and most of the world is just kinda looking the other way because we don't care about a square full of people applauding their new dictator when we got our own stupid shit to deal with.

The Turks are a weird people anyway, very proud and nationalistic, but also very flexible in their loyalties.

nb offtopic rant
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Sidney Crendlebuck - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:41:44 EST ID:RVqJIAXf No.160071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160067
>implying that NK isn't also heavily invested in the current nuclear paradigm
Yeah, I'm sure Kim Jong-un just can't wait to upset the delicate balance of bullshit that allows his unremarkable ass to be King For Life. He just can't wait to give the US an excuse to invade/coup him so he can die with a rebel knife up his butt.

Remember, only America cares about self-preservation, everyone else is a craaaaaazy foreigner who is looking for any excuse to kamikaze their whole society which is why we need to be ready to blow it up for them. Be afraid, guys! Scary foreigners would rather senselessly blow up fat Americans than maintain their positions of power and prestige! It makes no sense but that's why you should be even afraiderer of these foreigners, guys! Be sooo afraid invest in Lockheed!!
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Isabella Tootville - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:41:50 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160071
This is a valid point, but neglects that fact that in Kim 3.0's case, reality is....debatable. What Kim might see as an existential threat that requires a final blow, might be very different from what a normal human would see. He does live in a world where paranoia is everywhere.

Basically, we have to balance self-preservation against his crazy and see what we get.

Honestly, I think that our biggest concern would be that Kim starts to see his grip on power slipping, and decides that his only option to survive in any form is to start some shit and wait it out in a bunker. Or, maybe he would be up against the ropes and use a nuke strike on the US or SK to simply have a national "Columbine Moment."
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Fucking Pingerford - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:47:03 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.160077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160073

The Norks won't just fire off a nuke, just like that. The real problem is if neither side backs down (because they both have to prove how tough they are to their domestic and international audience) then you're gonna have a ladder of escalation that could lead to something nuclear down the road (possibly even including China, and then we would all be fucked).
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Jenny Chellyworth - Sat, 29 Jul 2017 03:09:00 EST ID:7yGIr3gd No.160264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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"The data available indicates that the missile may have a range of approximately 10,400km. Since this missile is road-mobile, a launch from the north-eastern city of Rason would put New York City in range of the ICBM."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40760583

...well, shit.
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Frederick Billingforth - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 09:12:48 EST ID:MPJByanS No.160300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160264
Come on man dont be a retard and post some bbc shit or ill slap you
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Simon Nickleman - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 16:25:03 EST ID:YqxoHHBZ No.160303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160300
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-missile-test-range-continental-us-icbm-donald-trump-kim-jong-un-pyongyang-a7870176.html
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Simon Nickleman - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 16:28:25 EST ID:YqxoHHBZ No.160304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160303
oops, thats old news. this is the newest:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-missile-test-icbm-japan-a7866101.html
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Simon Nickleman - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 16:31:22 EST ID:YqxoHHBZ No.160305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160304
gah, no its not. ignore me i'm a hot mess at the moment. if someone can find another source that is not as partisan as the beeb, plz post.
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Isabella Grandfuck - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:06:31 EST ID:zCslYGII No.160310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160305
Looks like someone forgot to get the latest script from his defense industry think tank bosses.
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Emma Mocklespear - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:39:50 EST ID:YqxoHHBZ No.160313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>160310
shit, i've been found out...
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Sidney Pickfuck - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:49:50 EST ID:IqeGJT6/ No.160447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>159995
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36385839
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Sidney Pickfuck - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:55:32 EST ID:IqeGJT6/ No.160448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>160014
Home by Christmas? I don't think so Tim.


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