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FBI Raids Trump's Personal Lawyer Cohen's Office by James Wuzzleheck - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 21:10:42 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So the Party Van arrives at Cohen's office


FYI ths is not in relation to the Russia investigation but rather has to do with the Stormy Saga, and what's more this was at the direction of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, so it's not something Trump can pardon his way out of either. further, because this was a lawyer's office and normally there would be attorney/client privilege at play, the warrant must've cleared some special conditions, such as the "Crime-Fraud" exception rule, in which a client’s communication to their attorney isn’t privileged if they made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud.

Now Donny is reconsidering his decision so far not to fire Mueller as well...

>Listen, Bubs. Hear that?
>Sounds of the whispering winds of shit...
Henry Sesslebut - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:00:14 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should mention that Trump personally interviewed and appointed this district attorney.

Imagine how much evidence Mueller must have to
1) Get a no-knock warrant
2) on a lawyer
3) for the president
4) at 3 addresses

David Neckleham - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:17:57 EST ID:ar9mMa8V No.167359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if they found any witches? Trump keeps talking about witches.

Trump most likely exacerbated the investigation because he couldn't keep silent about it. I doubt it will go anywhere considering his inauguration fund is still fucking missing and very few seem to be interested in finding out where it went.


>Trump's inauguration committee raised a record-breaking $107 million as his administration prepared to assume the White House last year, but very little has been disclosed about where the remaining money was allocated.

Most president's use around 50 million at best. Considering that Trump is known for shifting money around his company from charities his kids run I wouldn't be surprised if turned out it all went into his family's and friends pockets.http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-funneled-kids-cancer-charity-money-businesses-621927
Fanny Shakehood - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:18:13 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Firing Mueller, how would that help Trump in anyway? Beside being effectively an admonition of guilt in the eyes of many, how would it stop the investigation? Couldn't just a new special prosecutor take over?
Caroline Surryridge - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:20:34 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167361 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Numerous Republican congressman have blatantly stated that would cause the initiation of impeachment.
Fucking Hendlebury - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:21:33 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You just know that overgrown oompa loompa used donated funds to pay her off. That's what they'd be searching for. Cohen is Trump's fixer and itd be interesting if he cooperated to avoid jail. Trump's got ties everywhere from foreign governments to the five families and Cohen would know all of Trump's backroom deals.
David Neckleham - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:26:11 EST ID:ar9mMa8V No.167364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just saw one of Trump's mouthpieces go on about how Trump should fire Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller in one fell swoop which I thought would be hilarious.
Henry Sesslebut - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 00:26:23 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah that's the thing; I genuinely don't think they're going to find Russia evidence but they're going to find all kinds of other crooked shit...this is just a goldmine of criminal activity.

>Geoffrey Berman, the US Atty who signed off on the Michael Cohen search warrants, is: * A Republican * A Donald Trump appointee * A max individual donor to Trump's '16 general election campaign * A former Rudy Giuliani law partner
Matilda Murdwater - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 03:35:14 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.167372 Report Quick Reply
I can only hope this turns up some serious dirt within the next few months. The US has lost whatever respect it had in the world and that puts the country in a very dangerous situation.
Walter Derringketch - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 05:44:36 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.167376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>puts the country in a very dangerous situation

How so? I mean the US lost pretty much all goodwill Obama built up (and then some) but respect for a country only goes so far in global politics.
Angus Gublingtare - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:24:46 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Trump compels the DOJ to fire Mueller, or if the DOJ decides to do it on their own, it's up to the DOJ to decide what to do. They can appoint a replacement (presumably one friendlier to Trump) or they can kinda just forget the whole thing.

If it's the latter, there are a few loose ends, like people like Manafort who were charged. I'm not exactly sure what happens to them...
Jarvis Blinderstut - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:07:10 EST ID:z6JTZU1+ No.167382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
highly doubtful of either outcome. they aren't a) just going to replace mueller with someone friendly to Trump (if anything any replacement will be out to get Trump) nor are they just going to b) "kinda just forget the whole thing." that's what Trump thought the first time he fired the head of thr FBI, and look where ae are now...
Fucking Hendlebury - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:14:58 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also remember that Session's is standing between Trump and Mueller. For as much of a dirty prick Sessions is, he does seem compelled to conduct himself with a veneer of honesty regarding his role as AG. His loyalty is with his party not Trump and compromising himself could fuck up everything the DOJ has done under his term. The legal implications for every single investigation and conviction the DOJ participated in would be huge.

I almost think Sessions would resign before he took orders to fire Mueller. At that point the GOP may very well turn on Trump.
Walter Wullysedging - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 14:55:28 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Americans are too damn dramatic. They can't just elect an ordinary moron. They look at Berlosconi and go "hold my beer".
Henry Sesslebut - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:57:33 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even if Trump fires Mueller, this case will go on. It’s in the Southern District of NY’s hands.
This was perhaps the most brilliant 4D chess move we could have imagined; get mountains and mountains of evidence and make it immune to pardons or firings. There is a goldmine of evidence in those seizures:


I’ve said before that Mueller was likely to seize some of Trump’s business assets, and this is how he’s about to do it. Cohen has worked for the Trump Org for decades and now all the skeletons in the Trump Org closet are coming out, under intense FBI scrutiny. Cohen and Trump are literally shitting their pants right now, I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of Trump just doing something drastic to save himself last-minute.
Henry Sesslebut - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:58:55 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You’re exactly right. Trump was like the Tide Pod Challenge of presidents.
Walter Wullysedging - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:14:32 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's sorta part of your charm though. Uninteresting you are not.
Fanny Dattingkeck - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:24:47 EST ID:NVABe+Zf No.167400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this jew his Saul Goodman lawyet?
Fucking Hendlebury - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:51:32 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Appearently Cohen admitted he's scared to CNN about what the feds might find hmm.. He referenced his family too which sounds like he'd cut a deal in a second to stay out of prison.
Jenny Turveyhall - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:35:01 EST ID:ih0dbzfD No.167404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude’s slimy as hell. You’d have to be, to be Trump’s lawyer watching over his decades of unethical business practices. But that same slime is what’s going to make him rat trump out.
And honestly who better to do it? Mueller struck gold.
Caroline Surryridge - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:48:32 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167405 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>How to identify a non-american

>They refer to every american they see as being responsible and culpable for all actions of the government with the sweeping "You/your"
Fucking Hendlebury - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:55:18 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah but a lot of Americans do that too like with Iranians or Africans or even Mexicans. Most of those people are Trump voters but still..
Clara Nillyware - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:25:15 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167410 Ignore Report Quick Reply

im saying on this board. but you are definitely correct.
William Fanwill - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:14:56 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cedric Druddlenire - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 06:23:41 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He’s gonna damp up the war in Syria to remain in power despite the indictments.
He’s actually a madman.
Hugh Pockwater - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 08:33:22 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the record that was all mostly in jest.
Cedric Druddlenire - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:29:24 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh God, I didn’t want to be right

Oh God, John Bolton’s not gonna tell him no either.
Hugh Grimfuck - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:37:29 EST ID:jajGWUvR No.167422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The sad part is that even though a few years ago he was totally against the war in syria and this will make him look like the biggest hypocrite of all time, the right wing voters won't give a shit. It doesn't matter what he actually does in terms of actions. All that matters that he triggers liberal.
Edwin Camblehood - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:30:34 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if he doesn't attack Syria:
>thank God that warmongering droneking OBOMBER is gone and didn't replaced by bloodthirsty hawk KILLARY
>finally we're getting out of the ME where we don't belong
>attacking Syria would provoke Russia too, good thing we have a 4D chess master who knows how to play the geopolitical game!

if he DOES attack Syria:
>YEAH, shiw 'em how MURKA does it! MURKA STRONK!
>ain't takin' no shit, unlike that pussy OBUMMER who pulled out of Iraq and let ISIS win!
>tough on Russia to boot. putin's bitch boy MUH ASS.

it literally doesn't matter.
John Goblingfoot - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:18:50 EST ID:DTJRk/wK No.167424 Ignore Report Quick Reply

GOddamn ho can't write for shit.
Does the president not have free writing courses?
Fuck Drennerstone - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:20:03 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Holy shit how do you guys not see the pattern by now?

Every single thing Reality Television Star Donald Trump is doing in office is something that another president has done. People seem to think it's super hilarious to find tweets from Trump years ago criticising Obama, as though those tweets aren't exactly the fucking script that Donald Trump, Reality Television Star, is working from. It's clearly intentional, clearly pre-planned, and clearly designed to draw attention to all the evil shit the US has been up to that nobody cared about before a cartoon supervillain was doing it.
You have an activist president and they're playing everyone like a damn fiddle.
Shit Crorrywell - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:46:12 EST ID:B1UVCaSP No.167429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Excpet for the potential war with russia, that kinda matters a little to someone maybe...
Esther Churrylotch - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:50:06 EST ID:xhbdlJK0 No.167431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>assuming Trump has a plan of any sort

Dude that is retarded. nb
Fuck Drennerstone - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:52:05 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That shit is all theatre and always has been.
Edwin Camblehood - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:14:21 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not to trumpettes it doesn't.

besides, attacking Syria is unlikely to actually start a (non-proxy) war with Russia.
Sophie Gangerville - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:18:39 EST ID:iFMr0F+p No.167440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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right, of course.
Walter Hummlesare - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:29:46 EST ID:Lmiy54A7 No.167442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Appearently Mueller was looking for info about the access Hollywood tape when they raided Cohen's office. That was the tape in which Trump bragged about being famous enough to sexually assault women. Interesting to see where this leads.
Phyllis Gibblespear - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:37:05 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gas Killing Animal lol
Ian Worthingridge - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:00:12 EST ID:Lmiy54A7 No.167452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Darth Bannon now allegedly telling Trump to invoke executive privilege retroactively to seize all of Mueller's evidence and then fire him. If Trump did that Democrats would shit themselves. If he actually seizes evidence like that impeachment would be instantaneous.
Phyllis Nollybitch - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 23:20:12 EST ID:xhbdlJK0 No.167454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fucking shit.
Hannah Clinderfield - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 03:14:40 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck is Bannon doing? Why is he sticking his neck out for Trump like this?

(unless he's aware of the consequences of this idea and this is his handgrenade in punch)
Beatrice Facklemodging - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:01:28 EST ID:8K6XRxWv No.167458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>unless he's aware of the consequences

Seems the most likely, he's already mentioned running for president in 2020 if Trump doesn't (or gets impeached).
Unlike Trump, Bannon actually strategizes and thinks things through.
Shitting Fudgeford - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:13:08 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>acting like the 4d chess meme just came out of nowhere

Yeah, the guy's campaign was a strategic masterpiece which took him from a joke candidate to frontrunner while systematically shutting down all opponents, dominating news outlets non-stop, repeatedly setting and springing sophistic traps, conquering a major party which hated him, and then... winning the fucking presidency of the united states of america.

But it's impossible for him to have "a plan". Unthinkable.
Hannah Clinderfield - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:41:36 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mhm, total 4d genius to beat the most hated plutocrats in US history.

can you explain the 4d genius that is all your chosen ones losing, and party elites jumping off the boat before midterms?
Barnaby Fubblecocke - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 05:31:07 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I read this post with Dunkey's voice in mind, and it became 100% better.
Shitting Fudgeford - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 05:55:54 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>all your chosen ones
I'm not even American you tribalist retard; I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm just pointing out that your cartoonish perception of Trump is childish and demonstrably wrong.

In one word you undermine your whole position you goddamn simp

That makes sense since somehow my internal voice became Dunkey at some point.
Ernest Sullysine - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 06:06:03 EST ID:PoUhpLLd No.167463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its not that Trump won, its just Hillary lost really hard. The way i see it,the american people were offered two shit pies. One they knew for sure is a shit pie, it tasted like a shit pie all its pie career. The other one sure smells like a shitpie, sounds like a shitpie, and looks like a shit pie but they haven't tasted it yet so they went for that one. In the end it turned out to be a shitpie except its like fucking diarrhea holy fucking shit
Not american by the way. Man i feel bad for them
David Fullerdudge - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 08:19:59 EST ID:4RmmzStq No.167466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>took him from a joke candidate to frontrunner while systematically shutting down all opponents
You can thank the Hillary campaign and their brilliant "Pied Piper" strategy (because Trump will be so much easier to beat in the general than the "real" Republican candidates, right?) for that one.

>winning the fucking presidency of the united states of america.
You can thank the Hillary campaign and their brilliant strategy of ignoring the Rust Belt (they thought they could reverse-psychology Trump into also ignoring the region and they would win those states by default because "Blue Wall") and backing an uninspiring yet divisive centrist insider who couldn't turnout voters for that one.

It's not so much that Trump 8d mancala'd his way into the White House. It's that Hillary and her gaggle of Sorkin-worshipping too-clever-by-half lanyard dipshit sycophants managed to 13d checkers themselves out of the White House.
Edward Surringfoot - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 08:43:52 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Hillary lost really hard
>Losing really hard = winning the popular vote
Dude, you can't just make up bullshit about stuff that happened just over a year ago.
David Fullerdudge - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:15:26 EST ID:4RmmzStq No.167468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go to bed, Hillary. Even if you didn't know what the rules of the game were going into it, you could have used some of your billion dollars in campaign money to pay someone to explain the Electoral College to you. You had a massive funding advantage, years of preparation, the near-unanimous support of the media and wall street and the war industry, and a small army of people whose sole job was to figure out how to win the Electoral College. This versus a senile half-retarded game show host with no plan, no understanding of politics and a slapped-together team of inbreds, failsons, hucksters, neo-Nazis and social pariahs. With a matchup like that, any loss is a huge loss.

It's like losing a chess match against a retarded child, only we're supposed to he impressed because at least you managed to capture more pawns than the child did. Like, maybe you did, but that's not the point of the game and you know it, and you still lost to a retarded child.
Shitting Fudgeford - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:00:26 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you're softballing this one, but doesn't there seem to be something wrong with this story?
Hillary has all the money in the world, all the experience, all the staff, all the data, all the media, all the deep state vampire support, and we're supposed to believe the guy who beat her after rocketing past all other candidates is just some dumb clown who can't into strategy and did it all on accident?
Hugh Crurringspear - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:14:49 EST ID:9g4uU69P No.167470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>using this term undermines his position
not really, not at all. if you have any idea how US politics works, esp w/ regards to how campaign finance works, "plutocracy" is a pretty apt term. in fact that's one of the biggest reasosns Trump had a chance at all in the first place - he's super rich and has lots of super rich friends.

there were a lot of things Trump's campaign did right for sure that helped him win the presidency, to be sure. but the 2016 election campaign was also one of the worst in terms of candidates fielded (for both parties), that can't be ignored as a factor of Trump's win. further, it's pretty clear at this point that Trump himself wasn't actually prepared for a win. he was planning to lose, claim the election was a farce, and start an alt-right media enterprise.

now that he's won though, he's just kinda taking it step by step, dealing with issues as they come. i'm sure he wants to actually address his campaign talking points, but the seeming randomness of world events combined with all of his scandals seems way too much for Trump to handle. most of howbhe's handling things now is not indicative of him possessing and executing some sort of master political strategy, especially with how much turnover his team has.

tl;dr - you're giving him way too much credit. becoming US president by itself is not evidence of him being some sort of 5D billiards master. occam's razor, friend. the simple explanation is that the average american voter is a rube, and that the bar for the US presidency is actually set pretty low.

pic related. crazier things have happened ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Phoebe Snodgold - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:49:52 EST ID:jajGWUvR No.167471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's more about the people who backed him. Mercer and his other facsist lads. They played some very good internet games and managed to astroturf the shit out of the election meanwhile Hillary's astroturfing wasn't effective at all and was completely transparent. And their strategy perfectly meshed with the idiot who likes to mouth off and say offensive shit. It played perfectly to the crowd of xenophobic basement dwellers and middle america ignorant conservatives.
Trumpo is just the face. The big dumb face.
Thomas Fuvingmen - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:50:45 EST ID:60zY0DyY No.167472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In 2008, Hillary had all the money in the world, all the experience, all the staff, all the data, all the media, all the deep state vampire support, and she managed to lose a primary - in America of all places - to an inexperienced island darkie named "Hussein" who hung out with terrorists and radical black preachers.

And she didn't have McCain's excuse of having the shadow of Dubya hanging over her campaign. What she did have was a campaign that thought that the Warhawk Status Quo was a good strategy post-Dubya and thought that the Dem primary process was winner-take-all rather than proportional.

She has a proven history of taking easy lay-ups and fucking it up completely. That, to me, is a much more likely explanation than the idea that Trump was a secret SunTzuMachiavelli genius this whole time.
Lydia Weshchidge - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:35:11 EST ID:F02g5Wuh No.167474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one is saying Hillary won. There a difference between losing and losing hard. Trump won some swing states by the skin of his teeth.
Barnaby Fubblecocke - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:41:16 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>and that the bar for the US presidency is actually set pretty low.

Which actually is something politologists, sociologists and philosophers have been saying for years now.
Esther Brookstock - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 00:24:17 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not quite related but apparently Trump at one point asked Comey to suppress an allegation that Melania likes getting pissed on. Wut? What will evangelicals do when they learn what the term "golden showers" means?
Angus Greenway - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:02:36 EST ID:F7sW6vBR No.167485 Ignore Report Quick Reply

"Pee tape" now entering the national lexicon.
Esther Brookstock - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 02:34:32 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah CNNs story was vague but I just read another one that clarified things.

lol though, so there might be a tape out there of Trump getting pee'd on by eastern European hookers. If it's true please for the love of god let it get leaked. His young earth creationist base would love a tape like that. Bonus points if he yells out Ivankas name during sex.
Angus Greenway - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:22:57 EST ID:F7sW6vBR No.167488 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They have like two articles covering the same thing for some reason today. The above is like an abridged one where as https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/politics/james-comey-war-with-donald-trump-analysis/index.html goes into more detail and has this lovely passage:

>While the rumored existence of the so-called "pee tape" had been swirling in Washington since BuzzFeed published the full dossier on Trump prepared during the 2016 election by former British spy Christopher Steele, most news organizations -- including CNN -- had avoided reporting on it.
Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:29:48 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> "plutocracy" is a pretty apt term
Obviously. You missed the point.

It's just a character he plays on television. It's kinda baffling to me that anyone could believe he's a real person.
Simon Fommerlure - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:42:19 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
John Bolton's first divorce was because he made his wife go to this group sex club in New York City. He kept making her go and she was like no dude.

Albert Dabbercocke - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:24:31 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.167500 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Is there anyone in Washington without skellies in their closet?
I guess those are the people we never hear about.
Eliza Sobberhidge - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:41:15 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>You missed the point.
then elaborate.

>It's just a character he plays on television.
all politicians/celebrities/public figures/etc. have public personas, that's no secret. in fact it's stating the obvious.

so far you've only been able to offer "you just don't get it" and misdirection (i mean you literally ignored the points made in the latter two's replies, and went off on a tangent about Trump playing a character). you have no rebuttals. sounds like you can't really back up your original argument that Trump is some kind of extra dimensional Machiavelli beyind just vague notions you have about his "master plan".

i mean if he was some political mastermind, he should at least have started to consolidate his powerbase by now. he hasn't. the republican party is more fractured than ever, turnover in the white house is crazy, and it doesn't look like he'll be able to stop mueller at this point without it blowing up in his face. he should also be securing his future political base. he hasn't. republicans are almost surely going to lose the house and at this point the senate is a toss up. he's also failed to secure any real popular support still. if he makes it to 2020 it's not looking good for him. hell, he has both houses in his party's control, yet the only piece of significant legislation he's been able to pass is the tax reform, which was with much compromise to boot.

none of this is indicative of any sort of political genius.
Eliza Serryford - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:47:05 EST ID:fdziqg6X No.167503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It baffles me that you’re retarddd enough to think he’s playing a character for the public, when everyone who knows him in his private life also says he’s retarded in person.
Ebenezer Gappermedge - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:52:37 EST ID:PWhs/X4e No.167505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bad news. The guy who is spearheading this raid, Robert Khuzami, used to work for Deutsche bank from 2002 to 2009. Remember Deutsche Bank is the Bank that got caught laundering Russian mafia money and also coincidentally loaned Donald Trump hundreds of millions of dollars even after he defaulted on his previous loan from them and actually sued them for his failure to pay them. This is shady as fuck. Do not rejoice. These bastards are probably doing this to hide evidence from Mueller.
Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:11:11 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hahaha you're acting like I'm under some obligation to respond to ignorance like it's worth my time. I've already made my points ITT, and there's absolutely nothing to gain by engaging dummies who have swallowed the narrative wholesale.
I mean, I could! But you'd just double down and repeat yourself again, right?

Remember the original post I was rebutting was claiming that it's literally impossible for Trump to "have a plan" like he's some kind of cartoon pinhead, when in reality he's a Hollywood superstar and comedian who WON THE FUCKING PRESIDENTIAL RACE. There's really nothing I need to "back up" beyond that and there's only so many times I'm going to bother restating the obvious in the face of oblivious users who are going to hold onto their simplistic media-implemented convictions anyway.

>i mean if he was some political mastermind, he should at least have started to consolidate his powerbase by now. he hasn't. the republican party is more fractured than ever
He's not even a Republican, why would he care about that if he's an activist deconstructing the presidency? This is you not having enough of a grasp on politics to even be participating in this conversation, honestly.

>then elaborate
Yeah you can make demands all you want, I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Clearly the original post wasn't meant to be a fucking puzzle, that should be evident to you from the context, meaning you should be able to conclude that it's simply over your head. I'm not going to dumb it down for you. Certainly not without a "please", you asshole.

It's actually pretty funny when dipshits can't understand something and then try to flip it around like they're entitled to an explanation and the original poster is somehow in the wrong because they couldn't figure it out by themselves.
You realise you're only digging yourself in deeper when you do this, right? Maybe some kind anon will bring you up to speed, but not me. I'll post exactly as much as I want and say exactly as much as I want to say, and if you think you deserve more, hold on to that thought~
Charlotte Drambleshaw - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:26:41 EST ID:IxH1EbaO No.167510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol so you're literally acknowledging that you can't counter their rebuttals. and further you've shifted goal posts from "it's all part of his master plan" to "i'm just saying he's not a total pinhead."

again, that by itself is hardly saying anything about his political brilliance. so did Obama, against seemingly long odds. he was a relatively unknown name with little experience and ffs was a black dude in america. but factor in that his biggest opponent in the primaries was hillary and that mccain was straddled with bush jr's legacy and it's really not all that surprising, similar with Trump. republicans fielded similarly weak candidates in their primaries against Trump, and in the elections not only was hillary hillary, she also had obama's legacy to deal with. seeing how close the race was, you can hardly call Trump some sort of master political strategist with all this factored in.

>He's not even a Republican, why would he care
because he needs congress on his side or else he can't get any legislation passed? derp. i know you're not american, but most countries work in a similar vein. cmon man.

>Yeah you can make demands all you want, I'm not going to spoonfeed you.
>i can't, i dono what i'm talking about.

historically, power has been easy to grab. it's holding onto it that's hard. freak/fluke/upset elections happen, bjt when they it's not necessarily because the candidate was some sort of politic genius. the true test of that comes in holding onto power and making the kinds of policy changes they want. otherwise you're forced to put people like chavez or hollande in the same category of political 4D chess masters, which clearly they were not.

if Trump is still president in 2021, has firm control of congress, and is actually making lots of policy changes by then, then i'll owe you an apology. but as of right now that seems extremely unlikely, and it seems more like he's haphazardly cobbling together a slapdash plan as he goes.

in short, you're still giving the man too much credit, and you seem to openly acknowledge you have no idea why he should be given said credit other than HE BECAME PRESIDENT, which as I explained is not in and of itself a good reason to give such credit for.
Nigel Clovinghood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:44:36 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this dude X8? Tell us how badly you wana be a cop.
Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:53:28 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>lol so you're literally acknowledging that you can't counter their rebuttals. and further you've shifted goal posts from "it's all part of his master plan" to "i'm just saying he's not a total pinhead."
That's not what's remotely happening here, and I was explicitly trying to reestablish context by referring POSTS ALREADY MADE IN THE THREAD AND THEREFORE THE BASIS OF THIS INANE DISCUSSION, not "shifting the goalposts".

You are utterly pathetic.

I could pick the rest of your weak-ass post apart but I hardly need to, it's so bad I'll just let it stand as testament to itself.
Eliza Sobberhidge - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:03:14 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he's a Hollywood superstar
He had two mediocre reality shows of the same franchise...
>and comedian
It might be comedy but you're only a comedian if it's intentional...
There have been plenty of upset political victories where the surprise winner ends up being ineffectual and quickly loses power.
Archie Popperspear - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:14:28 EST ID:OnzQWPZ7 No.167517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>not "shifting the goalposts"
oh? at first you were like
>You have an activist president and they're playing everyone like a damn fiddle.
>the guy's campaign was a strategic masterpiece
but then you were all
>I was rebutting [the] claim that it's literally impossible for Trump to "have a plan" like he's some kind of cartoon pinhead

was X8 not american? if so, yeah this guy kind of fits the bill.
Thomas Samblesot - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:36:24 EST ID:j7QhqixC No.167518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He the first /woo/kie prez.
Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:33:15 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
100% playing the heel.

Yes friend, all those things happened in this thread, in a particular sequence, which is all contextual to the discussion. A discussion which I'm apparently alone in being able to keep straight, despite the fact that imageboard threads are clearly sequential and leave no room for confusion about the sequence of events at all.

I initially stated that I believe he is an activist president. The response was that it's literally impossible for Trump to "have a plan". From that point onward this the specific retarded claim that I have been debunking.

This should not be so challenging for you.
Sidney Shittingstone - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:36:01 EST ID:PWhs/X4e No.167530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well it's not like certain sexual activities would make you susceptible to blackmail or anything. Good to know John "orgy loving genocidal maniac" Bolton is holding the trigger to the most powerful military on Earth. No way he could ever be influenced by anyone ever into doing something stupid that he already wants to do like randomly attack people we have no reason to fight. Things will be alright.
Clara Worthinghall - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 21:00:25 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167531 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Eh, I looked him up in Wikipedia. Guy's specialty is financial law so his leading the raid would be appropriate. The Deutsche bank connection isn't the greatest look but a lot of guys in that position jump between govt and corporate jobs because the private sector are the only ones that pay.

I'll reserve judgement until a bit more info comes out. Appearently they got evidence Cohen paid some woman 1.6 million to have an abortion because some GOP money man knocked her up.
Edward Bardforth - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:34:05 EST ID:jzTJJITB No.167535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol, funny you mention context. you criticize others for taking you literally and out of context, yet you hinge your entire "people are saying it's literally impossible for Trump to have a plan" argument (that in reality was only one guy's single response) on a guy calling you retarded for thinking Trump has a ("real" or "decent," taken in context and not literally) plan in yellow text. meanwhile everyone else was giving you shit for creditng him for his "strategic mastery" and fiddle playing ability or whatever and you back yourself into a corner with your "i'm talking about people who literally said he has absolutely no plan" backtracking (despite responding to people other than that one guy), hence why you now look like twice the retard people initially took you for.

but go ahead and double down on your "actually guys, i was just responding to that one single guy who made that one single comment about trump's lack of a plan which i took literally despite myself now complaining about contextual misunderstanding and responding to a bunch of other people as well" narrative. keep digging, at least that's something retards are generally good at.
Henry Sabblebury - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:58:33 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh I'm sure Trump has a plan.

Just like A Wizard has a plan. Somewhere in his insane mentally ill schizo-skull. A plan doesn't need to be realistic or functional to be a plan you know.
Cornelius Decklechot - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 05:16:25 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, that was later, and everything after this is your jumbled imagination.

This is like some tedious star trek episode where I'm trying to have a conversation with retard rock creatures with no conception of time or causality.
Alice Goodforth - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:54:47 EST ID:m+Z0Tm6R No.167559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not only did you reply to two posts at the same time (167431, 167440), includng one that didn't say anything about Trump having no plan (the latter), you also went far beyond just saying it's stupid to say he has no plan, going on to say he's a strategic master, a setter of sophistic traps, conquerer of the GOP, etc. and that's what people started calling you retarded for.

but then rather than go back and say "okay well maybe that is giving him too much credit," you've now gone into this bizarre denial mode where, despite your entire conversation being visible for everyone to see your "STRATEGIC MASTERPIECE!" etc. praise for Trump as a 4D political genius, you're insisting that the only single point you ever made was that Trump does have a plan (in the most literal sense) and that you were only ever talking to that one single guy who said he didn't have a plan (seemingly sarcastically, furthering the irony...). the rest of your posts spiral down into "nuh-uh"s, "you just don't get it"s, and "i could tear apart your arguments, but i won't, but not because i can't but because i don wanna"s. like straight up elementary school style.

i'm starting to think this guy might actually be SP who finally dropped his trip. the way he paints himself into a logical corner and then goes into denial about what he did or didn't say is rather reminiscent.
Hamilton Cremmerpeck - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:58:08 EST ID:N0GOwIpy No.167582 Ignore Report Quick Reply

He's a troll or stupid. Don't spend so much energy on this famalamabigbang
Rebecca Herryhane - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:16:23 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The absolute most retarded thing about Trump complaining about "attorney-client privilege" is that even someone with a basic understanding of the legal system knows, attorney-client privilege doesn't apply here. For DOZENS of reasons.

  1. If a judge signed off on the warrant, there was probably cause for a crime. If the attorney committed a crime you just don't have that privilege. Obviously.

2. Michael Cohen did hundreds of things that had nothing to do with being a lawyer. He was Trump's fix-it guy for decades. Just because he happens to be an attorney doesn't mean EVERYTHING he does now is protected by attorney-client privilege. How fucking stupid do you need to be to think that? Trump is, literally, either mentally retarded, or knows he's lying when he claims attorney-client privilege. Or some combination of both.

There are other reasons but these are the PAINFULLY obvious ones that stick out to me. People's communications with their lawyer get used as evidence all the time. If you've ever had a lawyer for any reason, you know basic shit like this, and you know Trump's a liar.
Polly Pitthall - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:55:11 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well, even more damning is the fact that the search was regarding the Stormy paymemts, which Trump denied knowledge about. so at least with regards to communications about the payment, there literally cannot be attorney-client privilege, since, according to Trump himself, there was no communication about the payment in the first place.
Clara Dishmutch - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:11:54 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167634 Ignore Report Quick Reply

this this this
Polly Pitthall - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:49:16 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Sean Hannity is Michael Cohen's third legal client

i know pic related is totally overused, but holy shit lol, dis gun b gud.

also apparently Cohen has 7 other clients, but they aren't "legal clients" so he isn't revealing them. not sure how that works but we'll see.
Polly Pitthall - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:50:55 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh, and i cannot for the love of me seem to find a Fox News article about this. would be interested in seeing how they spin this if anyone can find Fox's reaction to this.
Augustus Cenningfot - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:36:45 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They're still sitting in a boardroom trying to figure out how to spin it, but there's just no way. All the other news outlets gonna be on this like crazy.

What's most interesting is the business that was conducted between Hannity and Cohen. Cohen's a fixer and Trump appears to be his only consistent cash flow. He's effectively an employee of Trump's personal company. It'll be interesting if they find info that shows Cohen's taking on these other clients was a personal favor to Trump. Cohen's other two known clients, employed him to distribute hush money to women with damaging knowledge about them. That's a very specific service he's been providing so far. What services did he offer Hannity then?
Augustus Cenningfot - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:42:49 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CNN is now reporting Hannity has acknowledged it. Interesting that Hannity says he's never paid Cohen a dime for legal work. Why would Cohen do anything pro bono? Especially for someone that rich.

Betsy Goodridge - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:57:46 EST ID:w9cLgcCZ No.167651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope they fucking raid Sean Hanniy’s office. That guy’s even scummier than Trump and Bill O’Reilly put together.
Jarvis Wirrytadge - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:50:54 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which if it was true (its not) just means Cohen was Hannity's grease fixer for free. It doesn't change anything.
Samuel Wecklefield - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:35:50 EST ID:3eEkMvU4 No.167672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It means Hannity is a liar, but I think we all knew that already.
Caroline Murryfuck - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:33:50 EST ID:BrTkqNnH No.167681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What I'm hoping is they find evidence that Hannity paid for Cohen's service under the table or that Cohen did it as a personal favor to Trump.

Either one would be bad for all three of them
Fanny Gittingville - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:32:03 EST ID:M6dL3wIr No.167687 Ignore Report Quick Reply

thats like asking if constipated poop logs, diarrhea juice, or stinky wet farts are worse. honestly hard to choose
Betsy Cruddlefoot - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 15:07:16 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>anything that Cohen tells Mueller is a coerced lie.
Shit Trothood - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:20:49 EST ID:j1vzXlKu No.167792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its like reading Stimlion's posts.
Rebecca Brommlefield - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:16:50 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't get it. Trump has maintained innocence this entire time, so how can his lawyer "flip" on him if he's done nothing wrong?

Is he preemptively calling his respected friend Michael Cohen a liar, even before he says anything? I guess Trump knows exactly what Cohen's going to tell Meuller, and it's not going to look good for Trump...

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