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The Trump and the TPP by Molly Conningnetch - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:10:38 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-weighs-rejoining-trans-pacific-partnership/2018/04/12/37d59500-3e71-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.2ef77e1097d1#comments
It is however doubtful that anyone wishes to enter into serious negotiation with the current administration.
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Sidney Murdhood - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:35:18 EST ID:M+YmEreU No.167526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Phantom Pain, you say?
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Clara Worthinghall - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:05:52 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167497
Well the entire purpose of the TPP (which was engineered by the US in the first place) was to hinder China's ecnomic expansion into SE Asia.

More than anything I think Trump's comments about rejoining the TPP are threats leveled towards Xi because Trump is shitting himself over the trade war. Trump even admitted Chinese tariffs are punitive towards his base specifically. Trump needs the Chinese to rescind their tariffs badly, but he's looking for a way to make it look like he didn't cave to the Chinese.

Xi can see this move from a mile away, it's not gonna scare him in the least. Especially after the Australians said the only way the US will get in is to accept the current terms.

Trump's either got to cave to the Chinese or the TPP otherwise his base is gonna be slammed by tariffs. This can't get any better.
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Clara Bubberfield - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:47:21 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.167536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167527
Yeah, he seems to be regretting his decision to just let TPP just go by the way side and is trying to play it off like he was just playing hardball, which makes no sense since he didn't seem keen on negotiating or bargaining on it in the first place, unlike with the tariffs. but that said he also blew it with his tariff bluff, unable to get any concessions out of anyone other than S Korea (and not even good ones at that, and despite S Korea not even being on the radar of Americam politics as being a bad partner), he's desperate for any other kind of trade win he can seemingly score off China (or in general).

I think he genuinely didn't understand how little leverage steel/aluminum tariffs would have over China. Or how seriosuly they'd he willing to play trade war chicken. I hate to admit it but China has a much smarter leader in place right now, and hell, Xi might actually be enjoying/appreciating the Trump admin more than even Putin is.
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Beatrice Homblebury - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 23:52:43 EST ID:ar9mMa8V No.167537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm doing my best not to go to my sister and say that I told her so but this is playing out exactly as I told her would. She probably wasn't listening anyway, thinking about jesus, the gop and patriotism or some shit.
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Polly Hurryhadging - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:37:50 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167527>>167536
The TPP was an undisguised American power-play. It was openly designed to counter growing Chinese economic influence in the Asia-Pacific. It was Also meant to cement American standards in the region. Pulling out of the TPP was a massive own-goal politically and has lead to a bunch of provisions favoring corporate America to be stripped. https://www.mfat.govt.nz/en/trade/free-trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements-concluded-but-not-in-force/cptpp/tpp-and-cptpp-the-differences-explained/
>>167537
Tell her no one competent is going to "do a deal" with a guy who rips up existing deals on a whim. Even the fucking Russians are beginning to regret Trump lol.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/19/europe/russia-trump-victory-turns-sour-chance-intl/index.html
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/the-kremlin-is-starting-to-worry-about-trump/
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Shitting Pibblestadge - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:53:29 EST ID:iBjpdh+z No.167565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167558


Lol I mean we've called all our presidents Hitler for so long but if you look at Hitler documentaries he had the same mind state internationally bumping heads with anyone who wasn't an open Britush jackboot. He even acted to the worry of military officials and started a war with Russia. His decisions were irrational and dictatorial at the same time because he was a hot headed idiot. People called Hitler intelligent but he was kind of just a man child, I don't really care about iqs dictating intelligence. There's plent y of high IQ retards
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Henry Sabblebury - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:29:06 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167565
I already said this on /b/ today, but I'll repeat it here. IQ tests for a very small subset of human intelligence - basically, your IQ will tell you how good you are at being a low-level manager. You know, like a manager of a small section of a production process in a factory, or a manager of a fast food restaurant.

It doesn't really measure the kind of intelligence you want to see in politicians, scientists, generals, philosophers, creators, etc. you get the idea. There'd have to be specific IQ tests for that; say political intelligence quotient tests, (physics) science intelligence quotient tests, military intelligence quotient tests, you get my point.
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George Cronnerpet - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:38:47 EST ID:oeo3ML+r No.167568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167567
>generals
The military uses IQ tests and brainlets get rejected. 1/3 of men aren't allowed to enter on these grounds.
Anyways IQ testing is relevant for the very fields you are sending, but it is because IQ is best available proxy for g-factor, general learning ability, and this ability is proved equally in IQ tests and specific exams.
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John Donderway - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:49:01 EST ID:r8FX5bnS No.167599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167568
Just because it's the best we have, that doesn't mean it's good. Look at the choices the US has to pick its most recent president...
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Nicholas Grimbanks - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 13:17:26 EST ID:KJxfCzlS No.167601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167599
The commander in chief received the best PRIVATE military training at the level of Black Water and other private contractor companies. Much better than public basic training.

His last strike against the oppressive Syria/Bolchevist regime has depleted theirs chemical weapons manufacturing. Like a spec ops unit taking down surgically a high target Trump does it on a higher level scheme world wide.
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Ernest Clittingwut - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:00:35 EST ID:PI2EY9bT No.167604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167601
Gr8 m8 b8
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Clara Gongermudge - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 17:54:12 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167565
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/sep/25/blitzed-norman-ohler-adolf-hitler-nazi-drug-abuse-interview
The fact that he was often high as a kite can't have helped.
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Thomas Munnerwill - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:03:16 EST ID:KJxfCzlS No.167617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167605

That's just liberal propaganda as real as a freaking Soviet propaganda showing some german soldier pointing his rifle at a obviously not photoshopped kid. Or they showing random germans laughing at obviously not photoshopped random poor Holocaust girl hung from a tree.
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Augustus Cenningfot - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 01:32:47 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167617
Yeah, because they had Photoshop in 1941
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Lillian Duckson - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 03:12:44 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.167621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167618
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Eliza Dimmerpack - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 08:15:49 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.167625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167621
That's still not photoshopped you fucking retard. That's an edited photo. Which is much easier to detect because there are physical tellmarks.
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Rebecca Nocklebanks - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:45:56 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.167648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167617
More like established history based on documentation and testimony. The Nazis were quite good at keeping records after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Nazi_Germany <- you can argue in the talkpages here if you like.
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Augustus Cenningfot - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 17:56:45 EST ID:8Ym2ION5 No.167650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167625
lol, I'm not sure kids today realize Photoshop is just a computer program. Or that doctoring photos was possible before computers.

Then Thomas, I don't think he realizes propaganda posters in WWII were drawn works of art, not photographs.
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Samuel Wecklefield - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:36:47 EST ID:3eEkMvU4 No.167673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Another campaign promise taken back.
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Caroline Murryfuck - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:52:01 EST ID:BrTkqNnH No.167674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Chinese slapped a 180% tax on US sorghum imports today. It goes into effect tomorrow and is claiming this is retaliation for illegal dumping of the crop in China. Xi is saying US produce is illegaly subsidized.

Xi coming out hard. Sorghum is a relatively minor crop for US but China still buys most of it. Will Trump even respond to this though given the current news cycle around Cohen? Even if he tries to divert attention about this I don't think the news media will bite.

Power move by Xi and now Trump has some pissed off voters to deal with. I'm loving this, anything that hits Trumptards in the bank account is good for me.
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Priscilla Murdshit - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:28:01 EST ID:AHzFAh+3 No.167675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Turns out challenging the heavy weight champion will get you knocked the fuck out.
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Caroline Murryfuck - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:28:37 EST ID:BrTkqNnH No.167676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167674
Assholes really do deserve this. They're still trying to take food assistance away from people to fatten their own pockets.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/04/12/601900588/republican-farm-bill-calls-on-some-snap-recipients-to-work-or-go-to-school

On the sorghum tax too
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/17/603103680/in-latest-trade-salvo-china-imposes-179-percent-tariff-on-u-s-sorghum
Nb
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Esther Sonderworth - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:59:33 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.167677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167676
I like how they want people with jobs to still be at poverty level. That is built into the plan as part of the design, not an unfortunate flaw.
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Fanny Murdman - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 15:20:37 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.167678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167677
Yeah... What's the point of social security programs if you have to be working to get them? Like, who do they think needs these programs? Do they not understand the concept of insurance?

And something else needs addressing if you have a job and still need help paying for good...
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Caroline Murryfuck - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 16:30:27 EST ID:BrTkqNnH No.167680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167678
>And something else needs addressing if you have a job and still need help paying for good...

And this is something even liberals seem to ignore. Some years back during the recession I worked for this cleaning company for a shit wage. Anyways this African woman got hired one day and I was training her. I asked her how she wound up working here. She told me she had recently got a decent job as a school janitor but had to quit. The reason she had to quit is her new salary disqualified her for all the govt benefits she had previously been getting. Unfortunately despite her new wage the difference in pay wasn't nearly enough to offset the loss of benefits she needed to support her kids. So she had to quit and take this other job that only paid $8 an hour.

If the govt had a means of splitting the difference between her wage and benefits then she could have continued on at her higher paying job and it would have cost the govt less to support her and her family. And this isn't an uncommon occurrence if you look into it.
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Eugene Brookford - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:28:54 EST ID:wNOYZ7U5 No.167685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167676
Food assistance has failed as is and overheads the poles so they are profit farms and not advance into a fifth column. No one who got free lunch at my schools were underfed.
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Eugene Brookford - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:30:15 EST ID:wNOYZ7U5 No.167686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167685
Overfeeds the poors.**
You are aligned with slimy agribiz to stuck it to poppa conservative.
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Graham Dubbleman - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:18:36 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.167694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167685
Fuck off Tankie.
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James Sonderhall - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:21:05 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.167697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167685
Sounds like you went to a pretty good school.
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Nigel Dartway - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:04:42 EST ID:NVABe+Zf No.167698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>167697
Nope lots of vibrancy and these were the most obtuse.
Food assistance claims enable the consumption of shit that will become a future medical assistance claims. I care about seeing fewer fats when I wander fleshworld. More people suffer overeating than its opposite, it is not rivaled.
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James Sonderhall - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:32:53 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.167699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167698
Obtuse?

Grammar check the shit you didn't copy paste from the fox and friends circlejerk please.
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Charlotte Chiddlelotch - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 02:39:11 EST ID:Te0GNJBQ No.167770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Several ships carrying cargoes of sorghum from the United States to China have changed course since Beijing slapped hefty anti-dumping deposits on U.S. imports of the grain, trade sources and a Reuters analysis of export and shipping data showed.
>Twenty ships carrying over 1.2 million tonnes of U.S. sorghum are on the water, according to export inspections data from the USDA’s Federal Grain Inspection Service. Of the armada, valued at more than $216 million, at least five changed course within hours of China’s announcing tariffs on U.S. sorghum imports on Tuesday, Reuters shipping data showed
lol Trump helping out his base

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-sorghum-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-sorghum-armada-u-turns-at-sea-after-china-tariffs-idUSKBN1HR03Z
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Molly Chomblestore - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:49:14 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.167794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>167770
Let me tell you the tale of the Great Sorghum Fleet that wandered the wilderness for years looking for a profitable port of call!


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