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Nobody knew Brexit could be so complicated... by Jarvis Blickleshaw - Wed, 16 May 2018 10:50:46 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So the USA is not alone in having an incompetent administration fucking up their country. The Brits are leaving a whole host of cooperation by ditching their EU membership (as well as the SM, CU and anything to do with the ECJ) and began planning for it... soon? They are preparing to set out their negotiating position within a month anyway. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/15/may-detailed-white-paper-uk-brexit-deal
Previously they were arguing about which of the two customs proposals the EU had rejected they liked the most. http://www.france24.com/en/20180515-uk-may-brexit-customs-partnership-max-fac-eu-unlikely-accept-barnier-boris-backstop
The one that is probably illegal under international law http://nordic.businessinsider.com/theresa-may-brexit-customs-partnership-plan-could-be-illegal-2018-5?r=UK&IR=T
or the one where a border would be needed but it would be invisible due to technology that has not yet been invented https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/2018/05/15/irish-pm-thought-max-fac-was-make-up-not-u-k-brexit-plan#gs.MtzixKw and won't be ready by the end of the transition period anyway https://news.sky.com/story/pm-told-to-extend-brexit-transition-beyond-2020-amid-customs-row-11366585
The pro-... opportunity here being how the Global Britai n UK can diverge from the Republic of Ireland in the EU while both Remain aligned to Northern Irelandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNVtIByTk1M
For the record; if Dublin isn't happy with the border the UK will
a) break the Good Friday Agreement.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Agreement
b) crash out with out a deal.https://news.sky.com/story/red-warnings-for-uks-post-brexit-nuclear-safeguards-11374097
What is currently worrying Lodon is that it might c) lose NI as well https://sluggerotoole.com/2018/05/15/fears-for-the-union-moves-centre-stage-in-theresa-mays-brexit-strategy-claims-the-times/

Essentially this (and much much more) needs to be settled before the end of June if everything is to be agreed with enough time for 39 different parliaments to ratify it if this is to go smoothly. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu/the-clock-is-ticking-eu-warns-britain-of-poor-brexit-progress-idUSKCN1IF1IN
Expect summer panic.
Clara Callerfad - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:02:31 EST ID:qGAVHluK No.168488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I remember seeing a segment on it about a while ago on BBC when they voted to get out, and some of the voters where interview that wanted to get out and one said "Shit, if they told me what was going to happen in the long run I wouldnt never voted for it". A lot of Brits were tricked into thinking this was a good thing, when a shit ton of their economic policys works is tied to the EU. Breaking off would destabilize Britain as a whole. Basically the Brits shot themselves in the food for no apparent reason, only because it would benefit a wealthy few.
William Fendershaw - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:30:15 EST ID:DmhWJ1AF No.168492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On top of that I was reading articles about Brits who voted to leave but completely lost their shit when their side won. A lot of Brits didn't think it was possible that the leave campaign would win so they thought they were casting a protest ballot instead of a meaningful vote.

Some of those Brits are insane though. I was watching a news story on PBS about British fishermen. Basically all these fishermen voted leave because it would kick Dutch fishermen out of Britain's territorial waters. Problem is most of these fishermen actually sell their catches to EU countries more than they do domestically and were too thick to understand that brexit would mean they couldn't sell to the EU duty free anymore. So basically they were asking the govt for an exemption from duties WHILE simultaneously still enforcing the new territorial boundaries against EU fishermen. Their have your cake and eat it too mentality was just ridiculous like they thought the EU would just bend over and agree to anything. Like they were gonna get free money out of the deal or something.
Jarvis Blickleshaw - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:37:37 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's a bit more complicated. All over the EU politicians like to blame the EU for their failings and take credit for it's successes. Part of Junkers job is basically to take the blame. In the UK however this was turned into an art form. The Remain campaign couldn't adequately address the problems blamed on the EU without admitting culpability. Equally the Leave campaign could claim that since the things they liked had nothing to do with the EU and would surely it would just continue as it was in everyone's interest? That is why people end up believing you can have a deal on services without the SM or friction-less borders outside a CU. Many people genuinely don't understand what are very complicated issues and thus voted to leave a completely different organization than the one they were a member of.

That is my take anyway.
Basil Blopperway - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:45:21 EST ID:1KcWuZvS No.168494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not to mention in most of Britain fishermen are economically insignificant, but processing and packing catches from Dutch and Norwegian fishermen is, only a couple thousand people actually man the boats anymore buthundreds of thousands are now in jeopardy because they can't replace the capacity the EU fishermen were bringing in

A really huge portion of the Brexit campaign was the outright lie that it would directly put millions of dollars into the NHS, which they started backtracking within minutes of the final polls, Brexiteers literally fooled the nation into marching off a cliff, sickening
Jarvis Blickleshaw - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:45:34 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's even better, much better. It is the UK that is responsible for granting fishing rights and the people that had them sold them to the Dutch, Spanish, ect. Additionally the British don't like to eat the fish of their waters. They like the fish of rEU waters. They also resent the fact that there are regional fishing agreements because fish don't respect borders which is the EU's fault somehow.

It's part of a wider trend too
Jarvis Blickleshaw - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:56:27 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah I heard. Still, they got away with it. The people who said this are running your country, no? Ergo and sadly the failure is probably more systemic. Utterly shameless though... history will not be kind. Most of my countrymen don't really know why you voted Brexit, don't know what you want and don't really care either (essentially believing the outcome to be predestined based on what the EU and whatever the UK positions are).

Me? I'm a Brexit nerd. It's just as good a drama as the Trump administration and, like many British versions, the original and more high-brow. Also less explosions and over the top effects. If Michael Bay directed Brexit you'd get Trump basically.
Barnaby Dudgewot - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:27:15 EST ID:0lMmorvn No.168502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They'll just wait until the next election and make it all about the brexit and the party who's dumb enough to support it will lose. Mark my words.
Charlotte Blushstet - Wed, 16 May 2018 19:19:20 EST ID:WXUWSia2 No.168514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They already did, Tories still won it, though they lost their majority.
Doris Cruvingmurk - Thu, 17 May 2018 08:30:47 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Both main parties have promised their voters that they will "honor the referendum" and the country (as well as both parties) is split down the middle. The tabloids are gung-ho for Brexit as well. I don't see how the UK can reverse course unless the Politicians come clean or the shit hits the fan.
Doris Cruvingmurk - Thu, 17 May 2018 08:39:37 EST ID:rtO8zSPd No.168540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This extremely British gentleman can probably explain

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