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San Francisco bans sales of flavored tobacco products by Lydia Dartdock - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:15:48 EST ID:bFTo7jZR No.169300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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San Francisco bans sales of flavored tobacco products

Phyllis Hurrypidge - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:20:03 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Banning menthols
I know I'll get called crazy but I feel like they are targeting a specific group with this one. Not a good look for a city that's already famous for gentrification.
Doris Brozzleson - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 21:44:22 EST ID:jajGWUvR No.169305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When are you gonna run for office? Make a difference if you're so passionate about it. Because this copypasta shit isn't doing anything for anyone. Unless you're just using it to vent and maybe as a way to channel your angst or mental illness. If it's the latter, then aight, whatever works for you.
Lydia Dartdock - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 22:23:24 EST ID:bFTo7jZR No.169306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.
Phyllis Hurrypidge - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 22:37:50 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If the state wanted more money they would just raise the taxes higher than California's already ridiculous sales tax.
Phoebe Wocklecocke - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:25:40 EST ID:vCluv2tB No.169308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Didn't Obongo do this already? Vapes that taste like junk food are allowed, but a conservatively flavored pipe tobacco isn't ?
Yeah I don even care anymore, kys coastie
Phyllis Hurrypidge - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:36:58 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>conservatively flavored pipe tobacco

I didn't know "salty" and "miracle whip" were so popular.

They are going after menthols here, it's no longer a plot to "get the white man" when new ports and grape swishers are on the ban list. Nice try though.
Phoebe Wocklecocke - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:41:59 EST ID:vCluv2tB No.169311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
jolly african-american I mean whiskey, rum, etc. Blacks only drink brandy and clears for spirits.
Clara Ginnernene - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:50:19 EST ID:7xDZIDdp No.169313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good ordinance. Fewer young minorities in the Bay Area using tobacco means healthier more productive lives. Enjoy your lung cancer and emphysema, honkeys of San Francisco.
Phyllis Hurrypidge - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:59:05 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think they should still sell whiskey flavored pipe tobaccy, but you have to present your fedora and duster at check out.
Phoebe Wocklecocke - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:02:48 EST ID:vCluv2tB No.169315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Shitlibs haven't taxed the hell out of pipe tobaccy thus far. Any sucker who extorts themselves on pre rolled products deserves any and all constraints. Should live with the rednecks that grow it all if this matters so much.
Phyllis Hurrypidge - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:23:52 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A majority of tobacco actually comes from China and all tobacco products are taxed in other states, I'm not sure about California because I'm not a yuppie, desert white trash or a Mexican stuck in 1993 so I don't live there. I like how you have a romanticized view of pipe tobacco though, the marketing team that sold stupid felt hats to a wider audience just Cuban grandfathers must have worked on that one too.
Sidney Blashham - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:28:17 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.169317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>it's no longer a plot to "get the white man" when new ports and grape swishers are on the ban list.

Here's the thing...they are FUCKED either way on this issue.
Think about it. If they EXCLUDED swishers or menthols, it would look like they gave zero fucks about non-whites getting cancer. They sort of can't win. One side will scream that it targets black favored items, and the other will scream that black lives matter.

Just fucking saying. Bad place to be unless you are determined to make a fucking point.

Also, jolly people will just go and use another product the same fucking way. It ain't gonna stop anyone who wants to from smoking.

Until they ban that.

Which they might.
Phoebe Wocklecocke - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:32:09 EST ID:vCluv2tB No.169318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Latin America is a more relevant source, all the blunt brands come from there. I do my part to ensure they stay in their own countries with my purchases, do you?
Lydia Dartdock - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 05:21:10 EST ID:bFTo7jZR No.169327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Americans hate freedom with a passion and beg for their chains.

If our overlords decreed that everyone must buy a new snowblower this year, Americans would agree that the law makes sense and must be obeyed.

When guns are banned, Americans will scream with delight.

If Americans are forced to get microchip implants, Americans would fight to be first in line.

When Americans get sent to the concentration camps, they will insist that they live in a free country as they get pushed into the ovens.
Reuben Grimfoot - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 06:19:57 EST ID:V73bHX6y No.169328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't wait for the government to deliver my pain collar!
Augustus Covingfuck - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:01:02 EST ID:u3WhHjj5 No.169329 Report Quick Reply
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>One city in American bans tobacco products, which are harmful to the user's health

We used to call this level of histrionics screaming "Tumblr" back in the day, but given the last 5 years I suppose thanks to 4/pol/ losing your mind over trivial shit is associated with chan tards now.
Lydia Dartdock - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:03:49 EST ID:bFTo7jZR No.169330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Americans either don't know or want to know that the US is collapsing or think that nothing can be done to save the USA. Any plans or ideas to slow or escape the decay are quickly shot down as unworkable.

Instead of demanding that minimum wages be repealed or checkpoints be ended, Americans would rather beg for their chains by asking for more laws.

Cornelius Fanstock - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:11:36 EST ID:FkQLzBVu No.169331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Instead of demanding that minimum wages be repealed
Nicholas Buvingtodge - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:12:56 EST ID:drJMIw4Z No.169332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wake me when you are allowed to ruthlessly harass fattiees the way smokers get shitted on. Secondhand passive smoking isn't real. Be pro nanny state where it makes difference.
Shit Bimmerkore - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:20:22 EST ID:LdVb0860 No.169336 Ignore Report Quick Reply

And you wonder why your ideology isnt viable in Victoria 2
Jack Trotbanks - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:50:08 EST ID:hPXU206k No.169337 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's san francisco, homie. Pretty much 99% of the rest of america doesn't do anything near the level of absurdity as the bay area does.

The only other part of america that acts even remotely like it is maybe new york city, but san fran really does do the best job of disguising soft racism and class warfare as progressive policies.
Simon Dollerbanks - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:18:24 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.169338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Welcome to California (caution: may contain nuts)
Alice Chenningchon - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 16:00:39 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because Taxation is slavery, but Slavery is just the free exchange of labor.
Fuck Granddock - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 19:21:12 EST ID:gUtezUEF No.169346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The US is a police state, but nothing will change because Americans think everything is just fine.

Phoebe Ciblingkidge - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:34:30 EST ID:EhvPs+Md No.169352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
learn to grow your own unflavored vape juice faggots

its 4012, get with the times already
Henry Chinkinnerk - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:05:22 EST ID:gUtezUEF No.169355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Future generations will ask why Americans didn't resist when the US became a police state.
Walter Norrymut - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 12:48:35 EST ID:soIyOLj9 No.169362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No, I don't think anyone will be particularly confused about how that happened.
Fuck Pittson - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:11:39 EST ID:V3wiYS94 No.169363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't know, maybe give a shit about your health and not use tobacco at all. Use all this wasted rage, whining about a stubborn want to lower the overall health of society, and fix real problems.

This isn't government oppression, it the healthy part of society telling you to grow up.
Ian Duckford - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:35:34 EST ID:ap6edYjS No.169364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sweet prohibition forever then , eat your dog food you phony.
Caroline Sivingkerk - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:31:36 EST ID:vZnRztJG No.169370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not surprised, acrolein is formed from the combustion of sugar.
Oliver Famblewedging - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:56:13 EST ID:rpge8t+V No.169375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck you and fuck healthy society GTFO of here with that bullshit
Ian Greenfoot - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 23:20:06 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only libs and beaners have thumbs. You only need an index finger to show people you're number one and to misfire your gun in the middle of a low quality sit down restaurant.
Ebenezer Bremblehood - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 23:26:37 EST ID:jajGWUvR No.169381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How exactly is banning only flavored tobacco considered "the healthy part of society telling you to grow up."

I agree with the fact that flavored tobaccos are definitely marketing to kids, but there's a pretty simple solution to that. Don't allow flambouyant packaging. I remember all those brightly colored weird Marlboro flavors from like 10 years ago. I was definitely attracted to them as a minor. But banning all flavored tobacco including menthols which tons of adults have been smoking for a long time kinda seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Menthol cigarettes aren't specifically appealing to children like Cloves and other flavored cigarettes. There should be an exception for plain menthol cigarettes.

Also, love how people like you are always okay with the government overstepping so long as it's not on your toes. Boot licker.
Cyril Dicklenad - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 11:45:32 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.169388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is it really government overstepping if it's voted into law democratically? It's a sign of the times. Nicotine, regardless of flavor has a bad image right now in California, most of all the bay area. People smoke weed openly though.

It's the will of the people. That can change, and will if enough people want it to.
Martha Meffingstone - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 17:15:00 EST ID:1fIHantD No.169390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm always down for some good old America bashing, but this seems a tad too much?

I mean, they're still a yuge power on the world stage aren't they? Aren't they?
They must be relevant even with their current incubent, right guys?
Ernest Fuckingstock - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 17:36:57 EST ID:/Coh/U++ No.169391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is this news? I live in tobacco country and we haven't sold flavored cigarettes in years.
Hannah Pickhood - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 18:22:23 EST ID:GSVZzPlf No.169392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not remotely. Even if you can trust that all our processes aren't rigged (which at this point you'd be pretty naive to think imo), the system itself isn't actually democratic--it's in the name, but the name is a fucking lie.
Is there anywhere on the planet that actually practices democracy? It's an easy lie to maintain when nobody has any point of comparison.

I don't care very much about this law (it's lame but tobacco laws tend to be a clusterfuck anyway so whatever, incremental changes are hard to care about when the whole thing needs an overhaul) but calling anything "the will of the people" under a corporate oligarchy is a joke. The history of prohibitionist substance laws is filled with decisions made for selfish and utterly undemocratic reasons, either to protect monopolies or mass-manipulate people with contraband laws. And it's always, always "think of the children"-type shit, but that doesn't mean some corporatist isn't two steps ahead.
Matilda Fadgebat - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 20:22:23 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Is there anywhere on the planet that actually practices democracy?
No perfect democracies exist, but some countries have proportional representation, some have a level of workplace democracy.
>nobody has any point of comparison.
It's a shameful tendency for Americans to extrapolate their own ignorance on the rest of the world.
Compare our FPTP system to how accurately New Zealand proportionally-elected representatives reflect the political will of their constitutes.
Compare how effectively Germany's limited workplace-democracy protects the workers from the evils of capitalism to Amazon workers required to stand in line for unpaid hours to keep their job, subsidized wages, or systemic wage-theft.
Priscilla Focklewere - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 21:35:21 EST ID:wDFD06aL No.169398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right wingers don't 'refuse and resist.' Liberals in the masses protest wrongs.
Just depends if you actually stand for something.
Ebenezer Honeyfoot - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 23:57:18 EST ID:GSVZzPlf No.169405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>It's a shameful tendency for Americans to extrapolate their own ignorance on the rest of the world.
That's generally very true, but... you realise that I was talking about public perception, right? You being able to cite a couple of examples of not-completely-dysfunctional systems (although not convincing examples, as both of those countries still have terrible and dishonest systems overall, but that's besides the point) doesn't do anything to improve the political literacy of the public.
Nathaniel Middleway - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 00:20:38 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.169406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> "the will of the people" under a corporate oligarchy is a joke
You read the article and saw that Philip Morris spent $12 million to try to get this to fail, but the people passed it, right?
Martin Greendale - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 02:16:24 EST ID:8NruFBq0 No.169411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is the tobacco lobby. i say make it illegal, grow your own tobacco. Our bars, restaurants banned indoor smoking. I always loved having a beer at the bar and clothes, pants I could have worn a few days, smelling like piss and shit.

Banning smoking in restaurants bars was the best move. Not nanny statel, nanny state anything. It is a burden on the healthcare systems, work production goes way down.

My grandpa smoked for years, died from lung cancer. My dads girlfriend gpot copd, needed to have oxygen 24/7. She needed to have a oxygen mask at times.

She kinda leaned over, coughed and splattered her oxygen mask with blood.
The thread kinda got to big, but starting people saying government saying what
rights are being eroded constantly by big government. Yet there is a tobacco
lobby. The tobacco industry is a billion a year industry. For every person who dies from smoking the industry needs to replace the dead person with a new smoker.
If they can get a kid to start smoking from like age 13 to 19, they will likely be a lifetime smoker. Which is the replacement for the person who died.

You think the tobacco executives have ashtrays on their 5 thousand dollar
meeting tables? Joe camel was a mascot to appeal to kids smoking,
banning that cartoon aspect made the right-wing tobacco lobby mad.

Dismantle the 'industry.' Make commercial tobacco fully non-existant.

Just a thought, remember the marlboro man who looked all manly,
lighting a smoke on a horse, cowboy hat, manly looking. He died
from lung cancer, from smoking.

Every doctor I have talked with who asked if I smoked, no, maybe a couple of cigarettes a year. Any doctor will say the best thin you can do for your health is stop smoking. (don't get me wrong, I used to smoke by default) Never helped
me. Chewing tobacco, is as bad. A relative had most of his jaw face where he looked like a freak, where he was basically handsome before. Now looks basically grotesque.
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 03:36:20 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

Your country is collapsing.

Be silent.

Don't think.

Allow your overlords to rule over you.

Tyranny is the American way, right?
Albert Turveyshaw - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 04:04:26 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are we supposed to get riled up and disagree with you?
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:54:45 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One wonders if the point of this law is to help the government meet their private prison quotas.
Sophie Clundlefutch - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:23:27 EST ID:V3wiYS94 No.169421 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You agree because i am correct. There is a simple solution, the one they went with.
The one of the reasons government exists to protect society from retards who cant handle their emotions, from themselves.

The government regulates clean air and water, because greedy retards will fuck that up

The government makes you buckle up your kids because retards dont

The government protects me from retards who smoke on public

Sucks if you are a retard, you must be getting angry as you dont understand your own emotions or the emotions of others. Society is a compromise, dick head.
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:18:41 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?

Henry Chuvingshit - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:30:25 EST ID:Wi4/EczX No.169425 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You really think a lot of people will get arrested over this?
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:45:34 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
America needs fewer laws, not more prisons.
Hannah Blatherfield - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:08:35 EST ID:V73bHX6y No.169427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel like this guy has a lot of fucking mixed messages.
Augustus Denderville - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:37:59 EST ID:k4enMT4C No.169429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck, how are we only now getting around to designing this shit? We should have been using this for 5 years. It's like the Russians have just been running unopposed around the world for years now. America needs to step up its propaganda abilities unless it wants to let its enemies turn the entire world against us. This is good news.
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:48:57 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nathaniel Middleway - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 10:59:37 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.169431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one with two brain cells to rub together wonders this this because the punishment of this law is not jail, but a revocation of your license to sell tobacco. The law is linked in the article. I know reading must be hard for you though.

Take your fearmongering bullshit elsewhere. This is a place for news, not lunatic ravings.
Ebenezer Pisslechadge - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 11:06:54 EST ID:67pMQxWD No.169432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.

If you refuse to pay unjust fines, your property will be confiscated. If you attempt to defend your property, you will be arrested. If you resist arrest, you will be clubbed. If you defend yourself against clubbing, you will be shot dead. These procedures are known as the Rule of Law.
Caroline Fanlock - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:08:16 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one cares about your An-Cap talking points.
Ebenezer Honeyfoot - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:22:17 EST ID:GSVZzPlf No.169435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yes, absolutely. The internet is infested with this shit, and a lot of it is even automated.

Remember a few years back when le circlejerk made a stats post, and the "most addicted city" was Elgin Air Force Base? PS that base is a "signals" (aka intelligence and cyberwarfare) post.

Even places that seem too insignificant have been hit, which I guess is easy when you're using bots. Check out /420/ some time and observe how half the posts there are basically demanding the mods crack down on freedom of speech. The pressure never lets up, and the entire fucking web is like this at this point.

Fuck you, you boot-licking fucking shill. These programmes have been around for ages.

> We should have been using this for 5 years.
The Smith-Mundth Modernisation Act which made it legal to use propaganda tools against the US public became law in December in 2012, and a whole bunch of blatant psyop shit which completely changed the culture of the entire fucking internet rolled out over the next two years or so.

The one hope in all this is what happened back in the 90s when the Stasi were exposed, after having run a massive surveillance, propaganda and intimidation campaign against the East German public for decades. When that happened all their records were preserved and made accessible to the public (you could look up your own file) and they even attempted prosecution against them.
Well, our current system is so backdoored by our modern-day assholes, and there are so many bitter nerds, even universities and corporations who have been forced to do the NSA/CIA's dirty work, that you can just fucking bet that all their evil shit is being recorded and backed up in parallel by entities who will expose the whole show one day when the time is right.
When that happens, we'll be able to run machine analysis on the massive amount of data, and untangle the whole story of who is responsible for what, and expose the shills who think they're so clever and safe right now, taking a pay cheque for ruining the entire internet.

Then it's guillotine time and there'll be nowhere to fucking run.
Shitting Pecklewen - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:31:48 EST ID:OIvNvgUg No.169437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You do realize the INTERNET was and is a freaking tool designed by the military complex to gather info?
All WWW. is stallioned by the government
Albert Turveyshaw - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:01:24 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.169439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh my god you massive faggot.
Just because you learned how to read last year and found a bunch of scary shit on the interwebs that has been common knowledge for the past decade doesn't make you white boy woke or whatever the fuck you are trying to be.

Your country is a despotic piece of shit and it has been since it's inception. It was literally made by the rich and built on the backs of people stolen and treated as property on land stolen from people that were treated as subhumans and made its own entity by people fighting on the empty promise of being able to one day be at the top. Its only 240 some years old, that's not that old even by human standards. It's a violent inhumane fluke that has no one's best interest at heart besides the plutocracy and no amount of bullshit you spam here or how loud you scream is going to change that. Go spam your shit on circlejerk or something, I'm tired of every thread devolving into your autistic fucking bullshit. FUck you and fuck America, any good feelings I do have towards the country go right out the fucking window when I have to listen to asshats like you, which is probably your end game, idk, either way, next time you want to post a rambling alex jones monologue please write it out on paper first and instead of transcribing it to web text just crumple it up and shove it up your ass.
Esther Wablingwad - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:25:29 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.169448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I 100% agree with Rule of Law. I just wish that it applied to the filthy rich that tend to take a detour around the laws.
Jarvis Dudgemot - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:38:55 EST ID:xbWLTQO9 No.169449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, it was a tool of the military complex's RnD divisions to transmit info and also hang out. Only the real visionaries expected it to get this far, and while some of them thought about the security of the data, none of them thought about the security of hanging out.
Molly Greencocke - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 01:00:07 EST ID:GSVZzPlf No.169456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're either confusing me with another user or your brain is broken.
Martha Seckleway - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:40:19 EST ID:B8B8pGsy No.169461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Americans who were taught that freedom is good might wonder why they are now being told to embrace tyranny.

Americans who were taught that debt is bad might wonder why they are now being told that debt is good.

Americans who were taught that peace is good might wonder why they are now being told to embrace wars.

Americans who were told to love their country might wonder why no one says anything while the USA collapses.
Barnaby Snodhood - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 18:10:27 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one cares about your an-cap talking points. Hey, how about you explain how Taxation is slavery, but slavery is just the free exchange of labor?
- Mon, 11 Jun 2018 20:05:13 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.169478 Ignore Report Quick Reply

He/it's been spamming /n/ with shit like that for weeks/months now
Emma Pittfoot - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:16:36 EST ID:B8B8pGsy No.169479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who said slavery was okay?
Matilda Buppershaw - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 01:20:23 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Taxation is not theft when it returns a portion of wealth created by the workers.
Rent and private property are theft.
Matilda Buppershaw - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 01:31:40 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mainstream right-libertarians wouldn't consider someone in a company-owned (or wage-pooled) town, paid in company scrip, priced by rent and goods to be in eternal debt to be a slave.

Less mainstream an-caps, including some of their major philosophers such as Robert Nozick have argued that slavery is moral as long any transactions are voluntary, for a definition of voluntary that includes choosing to sell your self or child into slavery to avoid starvation.
Martha Clagglepere - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 06:49:19 EST ID:vZnRztJG No.169484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
San francisco isn't even cis anymore now that they filled half the city with pakis who will work for quarter price on contract labor and huddle in same 1 room apartment.... fucking dems need to ban big tobacco because it threatens their corruption of the state through drug church and immigrant votes
Emma Pittfoot - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:29:20 EST ID:B8B8pGsy No.169485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws.
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>Do you realize that the US is no longer a democracy?
The system is not broken, it is working exactly as intended.
Capitalism and democracy are largely exclusive.

>If you work hard running a business
A business owner who works 100 hours a week deserves to be paid for 100 hours a week. Anything beyond that is stolen as it means a worker who is also working 100 hours a week isn't getting what they deserve.
>own a home
If you live in it, it's personal property. This is different than creating no value while extracting wealth from someone else.

>The "private sector" of the economy is, in fact, the voluntary sector; and the "public sector" is, in fact, the coercive sector.
One's freedom and self-determination is far more dependent on the material conditions than whether the state or a private entity is stealing their labor.
It's largely insignificant so long as the worker must create wealth for someone with a material interest in weakening them.
Worker-owned cooperatives or democratic, socialist states can avoid this conflict of interest. Capitalist states cannot.

>If the government steals 40% of your income...
I'm more concerned about my employer stealing a far greater share of the wealth I create, and using it to position himself to steal even more from me.
We've created the wealthiest society in history, and every hour of labor creates more wealth than ever before, yet we have people who work 40 hours a week and cannot afford medical care.
Eugene Shakefoot - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 10:20:46 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.169489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This isn't your personal blog, go post your manifesto somewhere else.
Emma Pittfoot - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 11:30:49 EST ID:B8B8pGsy No.169490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Americans used to believe in free speech.
Oliver Hicklelon - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 16:08:49 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.169492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is selling flavoured tobacco considered "speech" now?
Thomas Podgepig - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:19:48 EST ID:y1Ycak27 No.169495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see one thing that has any reality to anything here.

>If you don't like your job, quit

Then you have no job. Then you may have to reply on 'food stamps' and government programs to feed you children. May have to 'move' into a
homeless shelter.

Whatever the case, what planet are you from?
Hannah Clayshaw - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 19:36:21 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is there anything more dumn and An-Caps?
Hannah Clayshaw - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 19:36:43 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Besides me, spelling Dumb wrong?

Eugene Nittingworth - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 21:23:29 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.169503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Engaging with the resident platitude-spamming bot, for one. If it's actually a real person typing those posts, it must have some kind of brain damage. When will you people learn?
Archie Cammledock - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:21:16 EST ID:+khUg1U6 No.169513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you quit a job you hate, can you find another job?

Did they have food stamps in 1776?

Nell Murdwater - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:10:45 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That's the American revolution.

The one caused in part by repeated famines due to deregulating the grain market and tax cuts for the rich started is 1789.
Phyllis Purrywatch - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:29:13 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.169516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you a bot designed to spew the most thoughtless and factually untrue talking points available?

>People can find cheap doctors in the world without Obamacare.

I suppose that's why they get themselves to an ER with insurance or a way to pay. Or why debtors prisons still exists.

Either way, someone's paying for those without insurance. You either make it more cost-effective and improve the efficacy of care or you pay more for less. That's the only choices available.
Nell Murdwater - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:37:00 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Either way, someone's paying for those without insurance.
An ER will not provide chemo, vaccinations, a supply of insulin, or other non-immediate treatments that may be necessary to survive.

There's a reason the poor in this country have a life expectancy on par with third-world shitholes and the middle-class is just below that of countries with universal healthcare.
Nell Murdwater - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:37:58 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fanny Dommerpet - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:28:05 EST ID:+khUg1U6 No.169521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lillian Gundlesone - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:31:19 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.169524 Report Quick Reply
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Misleading. Broken down by state things start to look a little different.
Phyllis Purrywatch - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:50:07 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.169531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's also a very salient observation to reflect on.

It's amazing how people can still attack single-payer by suggesting it'll never work when multiple nations are functioning on such a system far better than the for-profit healthcare system we have. Their argument usually suggests the low population size without considering that single-payer makes things overall cheaper for the government and it's people while covering everyone. If we can afford what we have now, we definitely can afford single-payer.
Cedric Dendersitch - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 14:05:45 EST ID:37StvfR3 No.169549 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Why would the government want to randomly genocide parts of the population?
Basil Penkinchuck - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:54:47 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The burden of proof relies with whoever would claim people in power wouldn't do a thing that increases their power.

Americans have proved time and time again they have no trouble committing atrocities against dehumanized populations whose existence is problematic.

Reagan's director of FEMA's discussing how a racial uprising shutting down one or more major cities might play out, drawing on the US's experience neutralizing Japanese and Native Americans: https://pdf.yt/d/h7zSh86fNBKrtRJU
spoiler:Send as many negros to concentration camps (fenced in tent clusters with buckets to shit in) as logistically possible.
Basil Penkinchuck - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:55:50 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Martin Fanhall - Fri, 15 Jun 2018 23:25:50 EST ID:V3wiYS94 No.169562 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Dude, just stop smoking, problem solved and you'll save some money too.
Rebecca Blullymudge - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 11:58:55 EST ID:vdPB0f+k No.169615 Ignore Report Quick Reply

America was a free country from ~1868 to ~1898

So yeah, about 30 years...
Henry Checklefoot - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:28:58 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>workers with zero protections, with rent and wages such that workers could barely subsist and couldn't afford to move or strike.
>sharecroppers legally tied to the land by debt
>private police gunning down striking miners
Beatrice Cluvingfuck - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:16:13 EST ID:YFam0ryF No.169620 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>fancy novelty tobacco that avoids disgusting tobacco taste = your thumbs
Simon Briggleville - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 14:15:50 EST ID:Bjku0kUu No.169623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you love tyranny, the US is a paradise now.

If you love freedom, the US is hell now.
Charles Crammlelock - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 05:21:16 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When the State does it, its tyranny, when the rich do it, its freedom, thats the An-Cap way motherfuckers.

When the state takes taxes, its at gunpoint, when a multinational hires para-militaries to force you out of your village, well that's just the free market, should have out produced Coca-Cola.
Nathaniel Shittingman - Tue, 19 Jun 2018 09:53:03 EST ID:Bjku0kUu No.169662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts.
Shit Hucklecocke - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 14:39:14 EST ID:jD4x56US No.169772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But as the government contracts liberty also contracts as is currently happening in most of the world.

How do you balance that equation?
Cornelius Sembleput - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 20:16:52 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>If the government refused to help Walmart, would Walmart hire mercenaries to kill the landowners or would Walmart fear having a public relations disaster?

If there was no law? In a heart beat.
Doris Shittingforth - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:08:26 EST ID:5pVA0+lF No.169790 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Works great in Mexico, where the government can't tell "influential businessmen" what to do.
Cornelius Sembleput - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:53:49 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Awesome, I'll be sure to enslave you, as thats just a free exchange of labor, and not that demonic taxation.
Charles Goodbanks - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:34:32 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.169805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>No one said slavery is okay.

It is inevitable in an anarchocapitalist society. Hell, the minimum wage is arguably an antislavery law. Or was in theory. Now it is a joke thanks to Libertarians and the GOP.
Charles Goodbanks - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:36:45 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.169806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh and uh...
>If the government steals 40% of your income to pay for illegal immigrants,

Fun fact. Illegals and actually any resident alien gets zero from the Feds in terms of welfare of any kind. They don't even get social security even though they have to pay into it.

Go MAGA somewhere else you dipshit.
Ernest Moshhood - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:45:31 EST ID:naDBR1qm No.169809 Ignore Report Quick Reply

And in an anarchist commie society they all justify acts of crimes, violence and robbery if it's towards people they paint as "oppressors". Oh but I'm sure you deluded commies would love radical riots and insurgents to threaten the very way of the American nation like they did in the 30s. stallion FDR gave you your new deal to shut you up and here we are in 2018. Stop whining. Life in America is gr8
George Hittingcocke - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:12:39 EST ID:jajGWUvR No.169810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> thanks to libertarians

Are you aware that there are zero libertarians in any po national legislative power?

Writing laws written by a corporation through lobbyists is not a libertarian act pr even libertarian in principle. That's the act of a corporate state. For a corporate state to work, the government has to have the power for corporations to take advantage of. That's the antithesis of libertarian ideology.

Ancap doesn't equal libertarian though the ancaps that do exist would like you to believe that because they don't have a party of their own to use and if their beliefs actually lined up with their representation they'd be a lot closer to republicans or democrats as they both auction off america to the highest bidder.
Betsy Serryway - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 20:39:36 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey An-Caps, explain Debeers, and how the free market is infallible?
Basil Sollerwell - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:42:37 EST ID:8a8rsd5E No.169813 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Hey fake anarchists who are actually just commies. Explain how actual ancaps and libertarians have never utilized crime to further themselves. We dont go against the grain of society as a whole. We don't worship outlaws and people who steal property. The non aggression principle matters tart
Betsy Serryway - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:55:34 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ahh, you can't. Figured.

I like that you assume anyone that disagrees with you is an Anarch-Communist. Way to knock down those strawmen, champ!
Henry Bishwater - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:35:45 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.169815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Explain how actual ancaps and libertarians have never utilized crime to further themselves.

Explain the Freeman movement. Which did exactly that and is as Libertarian as fuck...
Eugene Dazzlepare - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 02:19:18 EST ID:YjMaoNAT No.169816 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Find me an anarcho capitalist that advocates sloppy poor people killing their managers and robbing financial institutions. I'll find you 20 pieces of commie lit written by people who do.

A total violation of nap. Anarchists and commies are like socialists who believe in Street justice because taxing the rich just isn't enough. You wanna Rob them blind.
Shit Mummlesun - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 06:37:49 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.169818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Most anarchists realize that private property extending to the labor or home of someone else is theft enforced by the state, thus a worker who steals from a capitalist is simply repatriating a portion of wealth the worker created.

To use your framework, the "non-aggression principle" was violated when the worker was robbed of his surplus labor or when the landlord demanded a rent beyond the expense of improvements the landlord himself created.
Frederick Hozzlebut - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:12:01 EST ID:ihtyOl/8 No.169821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
CIS was founded by a white supremacist and their reports never stand up to scrutiny. It's not a good source.
Betsy Serryway - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:21:19 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Again, explain how the free market is incorruptible, and never makes a mistake, when shit like De-Beers exists, or the fact that gold is way more expensive then Silver, despite the fact Silver is rarer on Earth then Gold.
Oliver Clurringdale - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 14:38:48 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.169831 Report Quick Reply

They're also using dailycaller, which is a garbage source as well.
Jarvis Sussleford - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 22:59:57 EST ID:A4SFBDU+ No.169846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Americans ain't reading all that.
Phyllis Fapperkut - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 23:39:43 EST ID:KqIP00sr No.169848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As someone whose walked into many a vape clouds, I fully support this.
Nathaniel Deblinglock - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:31:30 EST ID:Up5sxJ04 No.169853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's not true. The man who can read can appreciate skipping your drivel much more than the one who can't.
Ernest Fanfuck - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 09:06:04 EST ID:k4enMT4C No.169855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's hilarious that the thing that set BH off this time is states not being able to sell candy flavored nicotine products to rope kids into being lifelong addicts. What kind of a shit hole does this guy want to live in?
Jenny Nicklemune - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:57:06 EST ID:KFrN2kQU No.169859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One where he's free to drive drunk and doesn't have to wear a seatbelt, I guess.
Phyllis Maffingshit - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 12:41:42 EST ID:2IB6IGcu No.169862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know you're trying to make some insipid shitty point here, but who tf besides stupid raging assholes or genuinely retarded libertarians could possibly oppose the first six things you listed?
Walter Tootford - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:27:02 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.169863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You're responding to libertarian-bot (or liberty-bot). I've said it before and I'll say it again: If it's a real person making these posts (and I doubt it), it's a person with some kind of brain damage
Cedric Sashcocke - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:34:55 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Given that its responding to people now, its almost for sure a real person.
Walter Tootford - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:46:50 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.169865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It is? I guess I was wrong then. That means we have a rogue robo-brained lolbert loose on /n/. I guess that's funnier than if it was an actual bot.

Pic apparently related
Cedric Sashcocke - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:02:31 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.169866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, before he got wiped again, he was actually responding to things (though still not answering my question about De-Beers)

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