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Two more people poisoned with Novichok in the UK by Lydia Gacklebodge - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:02:22 EST ID:Lmiy54A7 No.170036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So Putin likely just poisoned an innocent couple in a piss poor attempt to cover up his botched assassination. Banned nerve agents no less.

I'd almost decry this as false flag but Russia's involvement in the original assassination is so obvious the west would have nothing more to gain by pulling this off. This could have only been done to serve his domestic propaganda. That's just fucked up.

Only other explanation is a serial killer with a bizarre MO who's capable of producing his own nerve agents

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/03/uk/salisbury-uk-major-incident-intl/index.html
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Doris Dangernore - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:12:13 EST ID:EhvPs+Md No.170037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170036
noone is innocent
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Hedda Gunningpud - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 02:00:09 EST ID:695fK1no No.170039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mate you are truly fucking delusional of you think Russia had anything to do with either poisoning. Inknow it's hard for you but kust try to think logically for a second and ask why would Putin order such an inefficient attack in the first place. Especially in the case of Skripal doing it right before the elections and for such a small fish like Skripal. There are hundreds of defector spies like him and Russia doesnt give a fuck about them.

You're clearly anti-Russian/Putin anyway so I doubt you'll change your mind but dammit man just use your fucking brain for once and stop eating up the propaganda. It's just tiring at this stage.
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Nigel Guvingford - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 07:12:20 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170042 Report Quick Reply
>>170039

Keep on praising papa Putin, tankie.
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Nell Farringkene - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:33:55 EST ID:QP80xlBy No.170043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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CNN is fake news. This happened near a UK chemical weapons facility.
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Ian Hommleshaw - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:44:35 EST ID:X8Go6siB No.170044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170043
"Everything I don't want to believe to be true is fake news"

Did your even read the article? Please, enlighten us, what part is fabricated?
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James Murdbanks - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 15:19:08 EST ID:wotdJ65x No.170056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The jews are just mad cause Putin put an end to their middle east agenda
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Beatrice Nicklewell - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:16:21 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170036
>I'd almost decry this as false flag but Russia's involvement in the original assassination is so obvious the west would have nothing more to gain by pulling this off.
That doesn't make any sense at all.

If "the west" saw that certain smoothbrained jingoists immediately swallowed the "war with Eurasia" bait last time, then why wouldn't they want to replicate a demonstrably effective propaganda strategy?

It's pretty clear that there are plenty of people - even here - who would blame a rainy day on Putin casting a dark wizard spell, provided that CNN and "unnamed U.S. officials" told them it was true. So your premise that they would somehow have something to lose is utter nonsense.
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Eris Bell - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 19:06:02 EST ID:jchY7UMU No.170073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170036
I'm with you OP. I have to say the people here who can follow spaghetti thin lines to the conclusion of satanic pedophile pizza parlors, but can't follow the millions of highways leading to the conclusion that Putin is involved with international assassinations and election tampering are the reason Alex Jones is in business still.

Funny, they all think they're uniquely different skeptics with edgy points of view, but they literally parrot Republicans like Donald Trump and Mike Cernovich are key in upholding the status quo.
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Eris Bell - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 19:16:52 EST ID:jchY7UMU No.170077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170073
*and they (Putin apologists) are key to upholding the Donald Trump standard.

Seriously, I run into 1000 Putin apologist anons for every anon suspicious of Putin's global intelligence operations on these imageboards. Literally, every single one thinks they have some hidden unknown knowledge which makes them special. They aren't special or unique at all in their beliefs though. Literally, every 4 toothed redneck from Montana to Alabama is parroting the same Putin apologism. Because, they simply can't accept they were conned by the Don and watch too much Hannity/Trumpyleaks. There really should be a meme about the hordes of gullible anons who will draw any conclusion besides Putin being involved in international espionage.
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Nathaniel Bozzlegold - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 19:26:43 EST ID:DmhWJ1AF No.170079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170068
They already proved their point, repeating it would just be beating a dead horse.
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Fuck Brablingwirk - Thu, 05 Jul 2018 22:38:56 EST ID:fcCI3qND No.170086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170077
I don't think those people are as stupid as you make them out to be. They know Putin has people murdered on the regular. They understand Donny takes orders from him. Lying about the situation makes them feel involved and like they're helping these great and powerful leaders. In their minds, Putin will roll through the town square in a tank some day and they can shout "I always had your back!" as Putin gives them an acknowledging nod and wave, causing them to scream like a teenage girl at a Beatles concert.
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Alice Turveyman - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 00:19:20 EST ID:BfPQGjR0 No.170090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170086
...and then they throw their panties and room keys at Pootie-kun just as he rolls past.
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Eris Bell - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 02:03:05 EST ID:jchY7UMU No.170093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170086
They also need his help in getting rid of abortion and putting prayer in school. Even supposed atheist autists like Stefan Molyneux are concerned about restoring Jesus to politics. It's a religious fanaticism they cover up with cruelty towards undesirables. Don't be fooled. The American Putim apologists want Putin's help rigging elections and skirting democracy. Trump supporters want Putin's help. They were cheering for Putin at the Montana rally tonight. It's a thinly veiled request for their help in keeping Republicans in power.
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Graham Funderkin - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 03:26:53 EST ID:xbWLTQO9 No.170094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170077
You can easily see the agenda of conspiracy theorists by what information they DON'T incorporate into conspiracies.
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Angus Trotwater - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:23:33 EST ID:jnwQP3uS No.170095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170036
Putin is getting old
I love how even the richest and horrible assholes age, i love it. I hope they cower in fear of death, having everything at an arms reach but just can't battle that age.
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Jarvis Chicklewell - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:28:31 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170095
Speaking of old, Putin is facing a major popularity crash in Russia for fucking with pensions.
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Phyllis Sodgeludge - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 08:47:20 EST ID:U5NNR/dI No.170097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170086
>Lying about the situation makes them feel involved and like they're helping
A whole lot of projection going on in this post
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Jack Popperfield - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 13:28:36 EST ID:f56Z+lqk No.170101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170039
basically this.
It's like the whole polonium thing. People say he uses these ultra-rare toxins so people KNOW it was him because obviously creating international incidents is good.
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Eliza Nillystit - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:04:44 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170102 Report Quick Reply
>>170101

On the other hand, using it against randoms and claiming it was Britain trying to pull a "false flag" is right out of his playbook as well, and helps his narrative. It fools the easily duped and he can do no wrong in the eyes of revisionist tankies anyways. Fear, uncertainty, doubt. It's a very Soviet tactic.
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Oliver Cannerlock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 14:15:12 EST ID:P2fvn6F+ No.170103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170102
>tankies
Are you one of those idiot Americans who actually thinks Russia is still communist?
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Eliza Nillystit - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:43:25 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170104 Report Quick Reply
>>170103

They still have ambitions to reform the Soviet Union. Actively attacking Crimea, Georgia, etc.
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Lillian Madgebat - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:58:03 EST ID:l/wlK5YE No.170106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170104
Only territorially, Putin is virulently anti-communist. The centennial of the October Revolution was last year and Putin refused to acknowledge it all.

Not to mention that the Communist Party have been the primary opposition party within the Duma since Putin took power back in the 90s.
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Ernest Heffingfoot - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 17:57:29 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.170115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170103
No, they are Nationalist Fascists.

Ironically....
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Fuck Breblingdale - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:32:01 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170104
Do you really think that "being mean to Georgia" is the definition of communism?
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Eliza Nillystit - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:37:16 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170117 Report Quick Reply
>>170116

I never said anything about Communism. That's all you.
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Fuck Breblingdale - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:43:23 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170117
>I never said anything about Communism.
You're calling people tankies and want us to be afraid of a resurgent Soviet Union.

We can see what you write and we know what words mean. You need to try harder than this.
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Eliza Nillystit - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:49:17 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170120 Report Quick Reply
>>170118

Tell me what are your thoughts on the soviet holodomor? A little curious.
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Fuck Breblingdale - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:58:59 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170120
Totally irrelevant to a discussion about Putin.

Do you think Putin is a Time Lord or something? A little curious.
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Caroline Gocklefatch - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:01:02 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170122 Report Quick Reply
>>170121

Humor me. Go on.
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Fanny Dollywell - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:08:25 EST ID:wWOB2bFe No.170123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170093
>Putin's help rigging elections
Putin's not the reason you lost, Hillary.

You lost because you were a shitty uninspiring uncharismatic nakedly corrupt candidate who couldn't be bothered to campaign in the Rust Belt.

This shit is getting old. Go back to the woods.
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Hannah Gondlebet - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:08:26 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.170124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170122
He doesn't know. He's been using this Time Lord argument for months.
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Molly Nigglestone - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:15:30 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170124
>He doesn't know.
Doesn't know about the existence of a completely unrelated historical event from over eight decades ago?

Even if that were the case, that is still irrelevant to a discussion about post-Soviet Russian politics in the 21st century.

>He's been using this Time Lord argument for months.
Go ahead and quote any of the posts where I said that.

You won't, because they don't exist, because you are a liar
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Caroline Gocklefatch - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:19:48 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170127 Report Quick Reply
>>170125

The Kremlin were the ones behind the holodomor. They are the remnants of the hard-line Communist faction from the Soviet days. They ruthlessly jail or kill political opponents to remain in power and their apparent agenda seems to be to regain former Soviet states.

It is entirely relevant to post-Soviet politics in the 21st century. Now answer the fucking question.
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Fanny Dollywell - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:49:53 EST ID:wWOB2bFe No.170129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170127
None of the people who ran the Kremlin back in 1932 are still running it in 2018. I'm sure you think Slavs are some kind of alien insect but they don't have a hivemind and they don't all share cross-generational collective guilt.
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Caroline Gocklefatch - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 20:57:45 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170130 Report Quick Reply
>>170129

Neither are the people who were running the Nazi party back then, but the ideology and political aspirations still exist. Putin and the Kremlin seek to weaken the US to make them ineffective at maintaining the deterrent to Russian goals of re-acquiring their former states who are now independent countries.

Again, answer my question instead of deflecting.
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Doris Padgeworth - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:07:20 EST ID:5qzuynbs No.170131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170042
Tankies don't like Putin, dipshit.
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Polly Drocklewater - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:26:48 EST ID:lQnk38VS No.170134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170130
>Neither are the people who were running the Nazi party back then, but the ideology and political aspirations still exist
...are you seriously implying that Angela Merkel subscribes to the ideology of the Third Reich?

Do you just think all foreigners are evil or something?
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Caroline Gocklefatch - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:37:15 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170135 Report Quick Reply
>>170134

Again, you're deflecting from the question I asked. I've humored you enough. It's clear you're not attempting to debate in good faith.
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Walter Naddlestock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:56:47 EST ID:aw16uck8 No.170136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170124
>>170123
>>170118

I love all these agents of Putin's information warfare campaign. Nevermind that Trump is enacting policies that are destructive to the U.S., but a wet dream to Putin, nevermind that even though Trump is being investigated for collusion he continues to act suspicious, nevermind him staying up all night screeching witchhunt and fake news, nevermind Don Jr. meeting with Kremlin agents at Trump tower, nevermind 16 indictments and 5 guilty pleas, nevermind the Intelligence Communities unaminous agreement that Putin interfered in the election, nevermind Trump's whimpering admittances because he literally has to, nevermind even the Republicans who set out to prove that there was no bias towards Republicans have to admit it, nevermind the crazy shit with Julain Assange/Roger Stone/Rudy Giuliani/Michael Flynn/Carter Page... No just memoryhole that shit and keep repeating the same bullshit like..
"You're just mad about Hillary"
"You just are like McCarthy"
"Fake News"

Screw your information warfare. Trump already won 2020, and Republicans will take house in 2018. I don't care about your petty political ideologies. I just want to see the whole U.S. rear back and devour Putin's agenda like a lion. Neocons come to power? Screw it cut taxes! Just do something about Putin.. I'm one of you! Democrats? Sweet free college! Double win! Just do something about Putin. You wanna know why I feel that way?

Because little information warfare actors/victims like you. You're apologism for an obvious capitalist authoritarian with no good agenda for America makes me want to see Putin destroyed more than anything. So go on with your little astroturf campaigns.. don't you got to be on twitter saying Walkaway or something? We all know these splintered factions that hate each other like socialists and liberals and moderate conservatives are going to play themselves. One thing will persevere, and that's making sure Putin pays for me having to deal with all the brainlets who memoryhole every inconvenient truth, sugarcoat the rest and call me a Hillary avenger for being wise enough to Putin's little information warfare campaigns.
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Polly Drocklewater - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:10:26 EST ID:lQnk38VS No.170137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170136
>adopting a hawkish, paranoid, xenophobic foreign policy position because someone on 420chan said something you didn't like
That's definitely regular, normal behavior and not at all a symptom of having bugs in your brain.
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Walter Naddlestock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:47:56 EST ID:aw16uck8 No.170138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170137
PLEASE PLEASE KEEP IT UP
You give me the rage I need to be absolutely convicted. You and your petty ideologies. I love neoconservatives! I hope they build a million bases around Russia. I hope they tag team with Britain and the rising remnants of the E.U. Your subjective (hands off Russia) ideology makes me want to puke. Republican wins?! AWESOME! I hope so! I really do! Because, I'm 100% positive they can be swung into anti-Russia hysteria. Democrats?! They're already there bud. Take your whiny anti-imperialism anti-EU anti-neoliberal anti-neoconservative alt-right/communist ideology to stormfront.. You're literally a dime a dozen there in your echo chamber. Call me a Hillary supporter or a George W Bush supporter with TDS.. Please do! You only make me more determined to see the Allies rise from the ashes and crush Putin for his little mind games and installing that orange clown. Call me an autist? MY AUTISM LEVEL IS AT 90000000000000000!!!!!! This is vendetta for having to deal with constant """"new right"""" and Russian information war campaigns. And all the groveling from new right and non interventionalists who treat Putin like they got serious daddy issues and need an authoritarian to fill that gap in their lives.
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Cyril Honnerlock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:54:47 EST ID:o4BwxZhq No.170139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170138
>and need an authoritarian to fill that gap in their lives.
>and need an authoritarian to fill that gap in their assholes.

Fix'd
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Walter Naddlestock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:06:56 EST ID:aw16uck8 No.170140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170138
Honestly. I'm glad red wave might happen. Republicans are waaaaaay more likely to pull some triggers against Russia. It'll be like nothing to get them on the anti-Russia imperium train. Hopefully they build 5 million military bases around Russia. I'm so sick of this communist/alt-right meekish noninterventionism mccarythism shtick to deny Russian interference in U.S. elections. As my Republican brothers say "We're America Bitch!" I intend to hold them to their word. This orange clown has only a matter of time before he's pushed into a direct head-to-head with Russia, blackmailed by neoconservatives or pushed out of office. All the right people will be in power at that point. You better believe none of us will forget these little new-right/Russian accelerationist/MAGA campaigns then. As if the 12 year old ex-alt-rights and their social media socks actually vote in the first place. It's going to be everyone against this denial and bullshit subjectivity in those voting booths. Maybe even a couple of defense operators that Trump put's in place to win Republican elections. Either way, I'm glad.
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Thomas Nicklestock - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:29:21 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What in the fuck is going on in this thread!?
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Barnaby Greenwill - Fri, 06 Jul 2018 23:45:14 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.170143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170140
>communist[...] meekish noninterventionism mccarythism shtick to deny Russian interference
lol.
The left criticizes the democrat party's mouth-pieces using Russia to deflect real criticism of sabotaging their own primary and running a shitty campaign and tend to be against imperialism and distract from the purging and reformation the party needs.

Sadly the party seems to believe their own deflections as they're preparing to do the same exact shit that has gotten them into the weakest position since the 1920s, arguing that if they go right and keep promoting "civility" over populism, they'll pick up two "moderate, suburban women" who is turned off universal healthcare, free college, abolishing ICE, reforming campaign finance, reforming the justice system, reimplementing financial regulation, and other policies that are popular with nearly everyone except the superPACs for every leftist who's going to stay home when those things aren't at the top of the platform.

The left has less than no love for hyper-capitalist Russia, a state which has caused the greatest drop in life natural expectancy in modern times and oppose Russia fucking with our elections as much as Israel or any corporation, but also is opposed to unnecessary wars at the behest of the military industrial complex.
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Edwin Crimmerham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:05:13 EST ID:l/wlK5YE No.170145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's absolutely no evidence that the holodomor was anything other than a nature induced famine. The holodomor is nothing more than a propaganda tool used by anti-communists
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Thomas Nicklestock - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:07:53 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170145
Tankie go home.
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Barnaby Greenwill - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:26:10 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.170147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170145
There is absolutely no evidence that the Irish potato famine, the Persian famine, Bengal famine and half a dozen other Indian famines was anything other than nature induced famines.
The issue isn't that there was a bad harvest in a large region, but economic and political systems causing millions to die of hunger and hunger-related illnesses by not allocating food to that region.
It probably wouldn't have happened if the USSR hadn't made a hard right turn towards nationalism with Stalin's "socialism in one country", justifying fucking over workers elsewhere if it helped Russian national interests.

Of course there's like a 98% chance any capitalist who cries "holodomor" isn't going to credit capitalism for the many famines caused by exporting food from regions experiencing poor harvests to sell on the international market.
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Walter Naddlestock - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:38:27 EST ID:aw16uck8 No.170148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170143
I don't care about your ideologies man! I've been hearing nothing but Republicans and Democrats are both the same from political canvassers JUST LIKE YOU for the longest time. And, year after year it's only helped the fringe right caring about those things or even engaging in conversations about it. Furthermore, I have no allusions that anyone else besides Trump, Democrats or Republicans will be in power in the U.S... It's just not heuristic, pragmatic or objectively reasonable to hedge on that. So I accept that, and am at peace with it. I love both the Republican and Democrat parties equal. They got BALLS. I'm le true rationale centrist see! Furthermore, they like me are licking their chops waiting for the moment they are able to put the hurting on Putin. Well that works out nicely, because of all this purity bullshit, Putin is now my number one issue. Because, I am so sick of the mind games, nit-picking, meekish non-interventionalism, denial, obfuscation, memory-holes, astroturf campaigns and am especially sick of the hypocritical orange clown in office. I 100% acquiesce to either one of their crappy economic policies. I can't control which party comes to power or who will vote, and someone like you will come around and say neo-"LIBERAL" this or neo-"CONSERVATIVE" that driving further wedges between constructive dialogue anyways. Caring one iota about leftist purity or liberalism only strengthens Trump and his Proud boys. So screw it. They can decimate the left all they want with infighting, tribalism, purity issues, sabotage... I figure I'll just hop on to the Republican train or Democrat train or whatever hegemony comes to power after 2018. So people vote for some issue that interferes with exacting revenge on Putin? NO PROBLEM! We can still work with that. The more ignorant the issue the better for my number one cause, and the more boomer-esque neoconservative the candidates the more likely they are to be ready to act against Russia in the end. I no longer care about idpol, abortion rights, taxes, leftist purity, rightest purity, scandals, ferguson rallies or anything they plan on using to insert division. Because, none of that will ever get solved by letting Putin get away with his assassinations and information warfare campaigns. No what I care about is making him pay for his various schemes across the globe FOR US HAVING TO DEAL WITH ALEX JONES TYPE INSANITY ELEVATED TO SUCH HIGH LEVELS OF POWER. I very much want interventionalism when it comes to this new Russian propaganda hegemony. I don't care if the E.U. is destroyed and Britain exits or whatever.. We can work with the remnants OR maybe they do stay together and we just work with the whole thing. Hell it might be better for them to be destroyed so it's easier for France, Germany and Britain to unite in this effort against Russia. I just want Russia's political landscape to explode with the same horribleness so many of us have felt... I want to see all their hopes and dreams in the global hegemony absolutely demolished... I want them to pay the piper. After I see real productivity in that front. I'll worry about leftist purity. We're America Bitch! We can set down the puritanism ideologies in a pinch against a nasty foe.
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Hannah Gondlebet - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 00:41:27 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.170150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170136
Just FYI, my response about Time Lords was a response against people completely in denial of any Putin wrongdoing. The same guy brings up this argument that Putin has to be some brilliant mastermind to do what he's doing. The simple truth is that everyone knows; It's painfully obvious as this is from their playbook.

I got tired talking to people in complete denial of it and using those same tired retorts you mentioned in your reply. And I find those comments funny because I'm as progressive as they come and get accused of being for McCarthyism or imperialism. It's really stupid so I don't bother anymore.

I am worried about not only the US but global democracies. Nationalism is on the rise worldwide while Russia helps nudge that along. Citizens with a decent grip on the situation have a lot on their plates. Between dealing with uninformed people to having to worry about our future elections and to concerning ourselves with social justice.

With that said, I do think there are more level-headed people than not and that we won't lose. We'll get enough Dems in office to help obstruct this puppet regime.
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Edwin Crimmerham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 01:26:36 EST ID:l/wlK5YE No.170151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170147
The other famines I know nothing about but there is clear documented evidence that the irish famine, or at least it's impact was an intentional act of genocide by the British government. There are plenty of records showing the British exporting massive amounts of food from Ireland during the height of the famine.

The Holodomor was just a famine. The entire region of the Volga all the way into parts of the Caucasus were experiencing famine at the exact same time. Khazakhstan was less populated than Ukraine in the first place but lost roughly the same amount of people to the famine. The Soviets couldn't send food because there was no food to send in the first place.
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Edward Pecklegold - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 07:34:11 EST ID:lYcdKmDZ No.170152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170145
And there he is folks, the stupidest person on the board.

>170147
>but economic and political systems causing millions to die of hunger and hunger-related illnesses by not allocating food to that region
It went much deeper than even that, they sent troops to round up all of the food, even food from people's homes. It was very intentional and targeted.
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Caroline Gocklefatch - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 08:01:47 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170153 Report Quick Reply
>>170151

There we go, folks. The tankie. "Russia did no wrong" to today's "Russia is doing no wrong"
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Edwin Crimmerham - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 11:31:55 EST ID:l/wlK5YE No.170156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170153
Oh really? Because I wrote that post and I'm also the one who made this thread in the first place.

It has nothing to do with being a "tankie", it's merely a matter of understanding facts.
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Martin Dockletock - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 15:20:33 EST ID:fD7QbJY8 No.170158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol. i havent seen a single post in this thread where anyone is willing to have a discussion. how about you all calm the fuck down jesus
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Molly Hettingsack - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:36:40 EST ID:W7K0QsDC No.170162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170158
shut the fuck up tankie reeeeeeeeeee

nb
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William Fupperstock - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 04:58:41 EST ID:52XufQJv No.170167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170158
the /pool/'s closed.. remember
nb
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Fucking Famblehall - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 20:25:19 EST ID:VYjx8rS/ No.170193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170167
>Blaming /pol/ for your right wingers
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Nicholas Crurringspear - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:38:39 EST ID:Ra4xIaBC No.170234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170120
About the same as millions of Irish starving under the iron fist of Westminster. What's your point, that people who get to power are evil?
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Graham Publingheg - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 09:40:07 EST ID:Px2pJKWp No.170311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170036

Ah yes PUTIN DID IT RIGHT? Just like when some american does something horrible, THEN ITS ACTUALLY THE PRESIDENT DOING IT RIGHT??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Im so fucking tired of people thinking that when ANYTHING happens in russia, then Putin has had his hand in it...... EVERY FUCKING THING

There are 180 million russians, dont you THINK that all sorts of complex shit is going on there? You know....... LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING COUNTRY
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Nicholas Sollychidging - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 10:41:44 EST ID:C/aNk73h No.170313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170311
This isn't something private citizens are savvy enough to produce. The Russian government was involved.
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James Brookstone - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:06:54 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.170315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ANGRY WORDS USING CAPS!?! surrounded by no angry words and no caps, and followed by tons of dots....... I FUCKING LOVE DOTS!?!?!?!
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Nathaniel Pungerdork - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 01:22:32 EST ID:Jb7tX+Ic No.170374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170036
The two people Novichok'd this time were by mistake, they just picked up some random bottle filled with military grade bioagents is the story cops are peddling
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44827666

Russia wants to flex muscle on their UK cold war enemy by reminding them they can deploy bioagents at will, but said agents just leaving bioweapons laying around doesn't seem right. You'd have to be the worst spy ever as I'm sure there was some kind of protocol that didn't include 'just toss nerve agents willy nilly into the trash' meaning you would surely be executed for fucking up this huge.
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John Paffingbanks - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 02:29:55 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.170377 Report Quick Reply
>>170374

Seems to me they might have been in on it.
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Henry Wozzleway - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:39:45 EST ID:X3dLbo1L No.170388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170311
A leader like Putin decides who leads what and they decide who leads what and so on. The head of any organisation bears responsibility for the actions of their subordinates because they either act under their authority or under the authority of someone who has been willfully delegated that authority by the leader. If you pick people who aren't going to keep an eye out for canons loose enough to fire internal incident grade shots off willy nilly then this reflects extremely poorly on you. Perhaps Putin isn't responsible for the nerve agents but he's responsible for being okay with people who'd happily promote people who'd want to authorise their deployment.

He would at least know this was a risk and thus did not sufficiently mitigate it. Maybe because he didn't care enough or maybe because he's incompetent. Take your pick.
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Fanny Dacklestadging - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:47:38 EST ID:DSZLRXa8 No.170389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's very important that everyone in this thread realises something.

You don't know what the hell is going on outside of your own lives. You think you know, you're a fucking civilian you can speculate sure - but its pretty clear some of you need to be reminded of the limits of your own knowledge before you start looking like fools

I'm not saying Russia did or didn't do it. Would they have a reason? they would have every reason to kill them and you'd be insane to think otherwise. You do not betray your own country when you join the service- and it's very effective to make an example; this is what happens when you stab us in the back, you will never be safe - we will find you even if you switch sides etc.
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Fucking Bluvingstud - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:20:17 EST ID:w5rE6zzX No.170390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170389

>You do not betray your own country when you join the service- and it's very effective to make an example; this is what happens when you stab us in the back, you will never be safe

That's pretty much what Putin said on Russian TV shortly after the incident in march.


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