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Trump Kept Insisting on Invading Venezuela, Freaking Out Advisors and Allies by Esther Blackford - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 10:48:29 EST ID:Muzf4+pP No.170196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>As a meeting last August in the Oval Office to discuss sanctions on Venezuela was concluding, President Donald Trump turned to his top aides and asked an unsettling question: With a fast unraveling Venezuela threatening regional security, why can't the U.S. just simply invade the troubled country?

>In an exchange that lasted around five minutes, McMaster and others took turns explaining to Trump how military action could backfire and risk losing hard-won support among Latin American governments to punish President Nicolas Maduro for taking Venezuela down the path of dictatorship, according to the official. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the discussions.

>The next day, Aug. 11, Trump alarmed friends and foes alike with talk of a "military option" to remove Maduro from power. The public remarks were initially dismissed in U.S. policy circles as the sort of martial bluster people have come to expect from the reality TV star turned commander in chief.

>But shortly afterward, he raised the issue with Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos, according to the U.S. official. Two high-ranking Colombian officials who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid antagonizing Trump confirmed the report.

>Then in September, on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly, Trump discussed it again, this time at greater length, in a private dinner with leaders from four Latin American allies that included Santos, the same three people said and Politico reported in February.

>The U.S. official said Trump was specifically briefed not to raise the issue and told it wouldn't play well, but the first thing the president said at the dinner was, "My staff told me not to say this." Trump then went around asking each leader if they were sure they didn't want a military solution, according to the official, who added that each leader told Trump in clear terms they were sure.
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Martin Naffinglod - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:23:06 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Totally the Non-interventionist Dove candidate guys!
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Molly Droshpug - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:37:32 EST ID:i+nWpQEQ No.170200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170198
>Non-interventionist Dove candidate
Just a reminder that the only reason people thought that was plausible is because the Democrats rigged their own primary to force the Butcher of Libya as the only other choice.

Compared to the Always-Interventionist Hawk candidate, fucking anyone can come across as more reasonable than they actually are.
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Frederick Gerrywell - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 11:51:48 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.170201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One authoritarian capitalist state versus another authoritarian capitalist state.
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Martin Naffinglod - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 12:10:54 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170200
I have a bad feeling Trump is going to put Hillary to shame, especially if the GOP gets slaughtered at the Midterms.
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William Clozzlewell - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 12:20:41 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.170203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170202
And to the surprise of no one (with at least no one with two brain cells to rub together).
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Frederick Gerrywell - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 17:28:16 EST ID:O7R8jdys No.170231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170202
He barely won as it were. He squeaked through a win with 70k votes via electoral college.
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Jenny Churringnon - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 20:55:09 EST ID:TC9iDd2r No.170236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170200
Gaddafi deserved to die. We can laugh at that, just like we will laugh when Trump dies.
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Lydia Billinglock - Mon, 09 Jul 2018 22:18:07 EST ID:ZaT3LGkF No.170240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170236
And all those civilians who were murdered when ISIS filled the power vacuum, all those blacks forced into slavery, all those girls forced to marry jihadists at gunpoint, all those people who lost their lives trying to escape the chaos, did they all deserve it too?

Did they deserve it just to satisfy your petty grudge against one man?
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Jenny Churringnon - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 04:21:06 EST ID:TC9iDd2r No.170244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170240

I did not say that, I just said Gaddafi deserved what happened to him.
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Walter Bannerlock - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:30:11 EST ID:/HpYV+GX No.170249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170244
Yes, Gadaffi didn't have nearly enough open-air sex slave markets for western tastes, and he committed the horrible crime of fully cooperating with the west to get rid of his weapons program, the monster. Plus Sarkozy owed him money, and we all know that Africans lose their right to live the moment they get uppity enough to expect a European to hold up his end of a deal.

But worst of all, he presided over a stable and prosperous country in Africa, which for some totally unknown reason fills white supremacists with a totally mysterious bloodlust.

But yeah, he totally deserved to die and not bloodthirsty imperialists like you.
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Lydia Shittingson - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:51:32 EST ID:VSVhmeEE No.170252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170249
He's an Israeli, jingoistic spook, or rival dune coon. Attitudes like this make Trump being friendly to even confessed serial murders like Duterte appear reasoned. He was actual Islamic gommunism and that was not desired.
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Alice Werringhall - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:41:42 EST ID:1KcWuZvS No.170259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170252
>He was actual Islamic gommunism and that was not desired
Why? Because your country is a Christian capitalism and somehow that matters at all to the average Libyan?
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Esther Ginningfuck - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 10:46:31 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alright, the intervention was a mistake, and he likely would have been better then whats happening in Libya now, but lets not act like he wasn't the typical African Kleptocrat dictator.
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Martin Serringtodge - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:22:55 EST ID:T4JbmD3p No.170282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170260
>Alright, the intervention was a mistake
Can you not read, or are you really this naïve?

It's pretty clear that turning Libya into a charnel house was anything but a mistake. It was deliberate, premeditated murder done for cynical aims.

Post-Gaddafi, Libya now serves as a corridor to smuggle weapons from Africa to anti-regime rebels in Syria, the current focus of our Middle East regime-change campaign. Do you really think that was a mistake?
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Esther Ginningfuck - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:27:42 EST ID:cs064rD0 No.170283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170282
I'm so sorry I didn't use your approved phrasing buddy.
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Barnaby Soshhood - Wed, 11 Jul 2018 05:42:49 EST ID:ZqNU3ikO No.170305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>170252
>He was actual Islamic gommunism and that was not desired.
...Why exactly?
Islamic Gommunists liberating Raqqa from Islamic Antigommunists somewhat related.
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Charlotte Dinkinchotch - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:18:19 EST ID:iIrBkpiC No.170480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>170196
Christ just imagine the kind of region-wide chaos that we see in the Middle East today, but right on our own doorstep in our own hemisphere.

Addiction to regime change will be the death of the empire.


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