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brexit by Oliver Dundleshaw - Fri, 21 Dec 2018 17:02:35 EST ID:B/tlA/58 No.173201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh man every day this is more and more looking like a complete fucking disaster
https//:www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/21/michael-gove-recruit-military-planner-amid-food-shortage-fears/amp/
The funniest thing is how UKIP touted this as some kind of keep bri'un white scheme and no euros and blah blah after fucking Ireland into it, and in reality all it's going to end up doing is sending home all the Eastern European labor and keeping all the Pakistanis. It's just funny to me how racists logic works out. Meanwhile not only is it going to cost a fuckload of money and probably devalue the pound really would've been nice if you guys could've pulled this stunt back when MXE and everything was coming through British RC vendors but now they're starting to take military preparations in case of riots and chaos. Notice you don't see this asshole anymore either.

I mean in terms of labor I have mixed feelings about it because on one hand yeah it fucks opportunity for say Polish and Baltic workers, but on the other free trade and free movement always was a Capitalist scheme which as you all know really just translates to maximizing profits for the owning class. Like they keep talking about labor shortages and I'm just thinking, dude I wish we had labor shortages here. It's simple supply and demand. When you flood the job market you decrease the value of labor and when you can't do that you outsource to India and China. No matter what it's a scheme to pay your workers less while making more money. If it floors the cost of labor maybe you should pay your employees more to attract them? I like how retarded ancaps never address the labor side of free markets in their theories, or talk about labor as commodity with manipulations in supply and demand by their oligarch faggots.

Anyway one thing I hope from all this is Corbyn gaining power and one Ireland.
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Oliver Dundleshaw - Fri, 21 Dec 2018 17:05:11 EST ID:B/tlA/58 No.173202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah shit I type all that out and forget the link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/21/michael-gove-recruit-military-planner-amid-food-shortage-fears/amp
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Ian Bubblewat - Sat, 22 Dec 2018 10:25:35 EST ID:i87OFMAA No.173218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173201
America will come to its "rescue" in a bilateral trade agreement where we have all the leverage.
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Albert Sugglenag - Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:03:33 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.173225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nigel actually recently left the UKIP because they're buddying up with far-right and neonazi figures, and because they're ignoring Brexit and the EU in favour for islamaphobia. Nigel wanted UKIP to stay eurosceptical and just that.
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Molly Duckhood - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 01:05:16 EST ID:e77dcCI0 No.173256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173225
It probably has less to do with the far right and more to do with him personally not want to look like an idiot who gets blamed for brexit
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Hannah Dinningtedge - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 05:25:47 EST ID:1fIHantD No.173257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173256

You should check out the personalities the party has now. More than Nigel has left because of this.
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Shit Sebblebury - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 07:17:10 EST ID:XWZ03IKh No.173258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173225

Also he moved his money to Ireland right after the Brexit referendum. Such a patriot.
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Esther Crombleville - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 17:05:52 EST ID:KMrlwqCD No.173262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As an American, I don't give a shit about the rest of the world naturally. But I'll suspend that for a moment; bottom line: Is this going to cause some martial law doomsday shit or will it just turn Britain into a less than stellar "modern" country like Serbia?
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Angus Blackridge - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 18:39:12 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.173264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173262
The UK military is stockpiling food, meds, and ammo, and planing on where to deploy to stop food riots in a no-deal brexit


You tell me.
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Rebecca Hinningfield - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 21:34:20 EST ID:9CVpkM+8 No.173265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brexit is playing out just as its funders want. Destabilize the West through out and out lies...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum
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Hedda Bunkintare - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 22:06:06 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.173266 Report Quick Reply
>>173265

Yeah, they have been meddling everywhere. France, Germany, Turkey (who can go fuck themselves), any country that has ties to the US is a country that has been targeted not only with propaganda stemming from twitter farms and the like, but also outright assassination attempts by the Kremlin like what happened in Britain.

At what point does this trip into the territory of active aggression tantamount to a declaration of war?
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Hugh Bushwill - Thu, 27 Dec 2018 23:39:04 EST ID:q0k7k7Oy No.173270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173266
When its backed by actual evidence not just theories.
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Hedda Bunkintare - Fri, 28 Dec 2018 01:46:39 EST ID:M/Ws53KS No.173271 Report Quick Reply
>>173270

There is plenty of evidence, some people just choose to believe differently. They imagine Russia is some saintly goodboi who can do no wrong.
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Charles Seddlekod - Fri, 28 Dec 2018 02:40:05 EST ID:lYJ7tgDw No.173272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173266
>>173271

If meddling in international politics was worthy of a declaration of war every country would be at war with every other country. I'm not saying it's okay but it's a part of politics.
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Caroline Dartridge - Fri, 28 Dec 2018 04:30:59 EST ID:O7x9gOaD No.173273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173271
Russia and china aint no good boys but Britain and the US are the devil so im more inclined to believe those who haven't been lying for their entire existence.
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Edwin Tootfoot - Fri, 28 Dec 2018 07:42:50 EST ID:XjrLTKB0 No.173274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173273
>inclined to believe those who haven't been lying for their entire existence.
All modern governments are corrupt, but you're an idiot if you think the Chinese or Russian governments are in any way better than the British or American governments or that they haven't been lying propaganda manufacturers for the entire existence of their current incarnations. The Soviet Union only even existed because of the meddling and outright strong-arming of other nations, and that still goes on to this day. At least until recently China had kept it's activities within it's borders to keep it's own people enslaved and ignorant.
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Sophie Simblemen - Fri, 28 Dec 2018 12:50:37 EST ID:LvrcTt6W No.173275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173266
>At what point does this trip into the territory of active aggression tantamount to a declaration of war?
Lord forgive him, Spunky's back on his "wishing for a catastrophic civilization-ending World War that poor people would fight on his behalf" bullshit.
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Shitting Tillingfuck - Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:18:08 EST ID:F60X9Lsd No.173293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173275
That image is cool, dolphins are probably pretty intelligent and possibly have pretty complex conversations, so do whales.

Imagine humans blowing each other up completely, all cities nuked, all fields gassed every house burned down. And so they would watch, watch these weird land mammals doing weird shit and blowing each other up. At least they'll stop stealing all the fish. They would tell stories about small boats looking at them while they are surfacing, showing interest and enthusiasm. Attempts to communicate were possibly made, but so was destroying entire families and stealing the small ones, so was obscuring their world with sonar.

And then they're gone, strange clouds rising from the ground for a few years, and then they're gone, smouldered earth, toxic wastes but the sea is big and will improve faster.
And thus the human race will fade in obscurity, only to live on for a while in the tales of the whales and the dolphins.

Nb i'm high
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Augustus Smallhood - Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:19:03 EST ID:a/P5Yqqh No.173294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been asbergering on this issue since it started. It is as hilarious and nuts as the Trump show but like most British originals it's way more highbrow.

Essentially Westminster decided to pander to the crowd and play domestic politics on the global stage which is always a bad idea. Before they could stop arguing enough to look into what they were actually doing (most still haven't it seems) all factions seem to have painted themselves into one hell of a political corner. No one had a plan from the beginning and seemingly they still don't. The sheer magnitude of what they are doing still hasn't really sunk in either.

Brussels has run rings around London largely by standing still. The EU literally suspected apparent UK incompetence to be a ploy initially. It has since become a believer some diplomats even remarking that Trump is easier to deal with (he at least knows what he wants even though it makes no sense while the UK doesn't and it still makes no sense).

The UK is on track to hit the reset button on most of its international social life in 90 days or so. Their only other remaining options is to call the whole thing off or accept the deal Michel Barnier (the EU negotiator) managed to psychoanalyze out of the British schizophrenic position. That these are the only 3 options left is going to come as a shock to them in some time. Everyone else knows.

HMG (Her Majesty's Government) has been (and seems doomed to be) continually ambushed by things everyone else assumed they knew. Obviously the global legal web can be hard even for pros. The UK was however outraged to find out that the rules it supported to ban non-EU members from Galileo's (EU satellite project) secure infrastructure means they no longer qualify. Likewise the very process by which they are leaving the EU was proposed by the UK, written by a Brit (Lord Kerr) and ratified by the UK parliament (as well as everyone else). Not that the UK media or even the BBC have taken up the challenge of looking into how shit actually works. Not that it isn't on google or even Wikipedia though.
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Augustus Smallhood - Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:35:05 EST ID:a/P5Yqqh No.173295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I could go on and on. Flood you with links if you want (feel free to ask anything - I have <i>really</i> spent too much time on this).

In general EUreferendum.com is one of the better sources (run by a Brexiteer no less) and 3blokes on youtube (while not exactly 100% accurate) is a good way to get a feel for what is at stake. E.g. here https://youtu.be/Cmak3oglm_w?t=1332

Btw, obviously a large section of the UK are freaking the fuck out because they know how badly fucked they are. Unlike the USA under Trump the UK is simply not powerful enough anymore that it can take a blast of it's own incompetence that well.
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Doris Fundleshit - Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:02:34 EST ID:n/qNRfZx No.173301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173201
I remember when this charlatan's dumb face and UKIP was memed to hell and back on here years ago as the new fresh thing. Funny to see that everything has turned out exactly how everyone not in it for the memes expected it to.

I'm curious if this slew of morons and charlatans being put in charge of serious and important government and diplomatic endeavors is like some weird anarchistic phase of the world that people will come out on the hangover realizing "Wow, we should never do that shit again" or if society has peaked and it's all downhill from here with just dumber and shittier people taking over for the dumb and shitty people before them.
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Ernest Cucklewill - Sun, 30 Dec 2018 06:19:13 EST ID:k6R2Zue+ No.173302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173301
The ancient bullshit meme is that conservatism is sensible and liberalism is an emotional response and that's why. Conservatives can propose disastrous policies, they do, everyone says "isn't that sensible?" people vote for it because it's tough times and shit gets worse because conservatives are frothing idealists with no practicality. Austerity, nationalising natural monopolies, doing the exact opposite of what everyone wants, the media has fed the nation, playing up the bullshit, giving extremists of the right coverage and ignoring anyone the sensible and/or left wing and especially both. People have been bombarded by so much bullshit and gotten such awful results they don't know a fuckwit or charlatan from a good leader any more. Trump and Brexit were inevitable. Macro got in because he was slightly less awful than the nazi and the media continued to repeat the same mistakes "hooray, great wonderful Macron is going to bring a new age of new thinking" no he fucking isn't, he's a neo lib/con "centrist".
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Sophie Sandernere - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 03:33:01 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.173312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.itv.com/news/2018-12-30/brexit-ferry-contract-awarded-to-company-with-no-ships/


STRONG

AND

STABLE
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Graham Hablinghall - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 08:22:13 EST ID:1fIHantD No.173313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173294

What amazes me is the inability of GB's 'leaders' to get together and pull together. Infighting right now is the last thing they need, but that's exactly what they're dead set on doing.

I know UK politics are a lot more contentious than here in Northern Europe, but daaamn. When it comes to large national-shaping decisions you need a grand compromise which respects all parties and provide stability and certainty for the future. What is going on here though is irresponsibility.

I'd call it a joke, but this shit isn't funny to watch. It's concerning and depressive.
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Jenny Dranningkuck - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 09:58:50 EST ID:6GbWe7dH No.173314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173313
No. You shouldn't compromise with idiots trying to actively hurt your country, which is what leave represents.
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Rebecca Nudgestidging - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 14:43:38 EST ID:VV+uwnSB No.173318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173312
That’s something I would expect here in America. For some reason I think the brits have shit figured out better than we but thanks for proving me wrong.
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Graham Worthingwater - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:06:57 EST ID:ueaVGngV No.173319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173318
American voters are not especially incompetent. American politicians are not especially willing to sell out their country for personal gain. The world just watches them most closely.
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Graham Hablinghall - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 16:36:59 EST ID:1fIHantD No.173320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173314

Leave has a referendum backing them up. I agree the ref and Leave is dumb, but from here it's all about damage control, not positioning and scheming.
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Nicholas Sonninghall - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 20:43:59 EST ID:g+vb2gyp No.173322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173314
Three quarters of leave.
There's also a chunk of the left who, while supporting free movement of labor and goods (the bit that the leaver's oppose), see the undemocratic, liberal interests that control the EU and cannot be reformed from within would punish any real anti-capitalist or even reformist measures.

After the french monarchy was restored following Napoleon, socialists seeking democracy and social justice and bonapartists looking to restore the dictatorship aligned against the monarchy.
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Martha Derringforth - Mon, 31 Dec 2018 21:51:58 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.173323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173322
>see the undemocratic, liberal interests that control the EU and cannot be reformed from within would punish any real anti-capitalist or even reformist measures.


Yah, so selling out to the US is clearly the correct thing to do.
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Nathaniel Bungold - Tue, 01 Jan 2019 20:27:03 EST ID:a/P5Yqqh No.173326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173322
That would be a lot more credible if it weren't for the fact that the UK has consistently been fighting on the side of the very forces you speak of. Losing the UK will likely move the EU in a social-democratic direction as a result. There are leftist supporters of Brexit on the continent for that reason.

Europeans outside the UK aren't exactly convinced that the UK's union is more democratic than theirs. Rather the opposite in fact.



For the record (and I'm saying this as a Scandinavian whom has never been to Ireland) Irish news (RoI) has imho been by far the best English-language source for understanding Brexit. Probably best period. Fintan O'Toole is an excellent example.
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Matilda Nimblehut - Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:32:32 EST ID:n/qNRfZx No.173327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173322
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Phineas Blankinworth - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 03:34:14 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.173371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://news.sky.com/story/no-deal-brexit-ferry-contractors-copy-conditions-from-takeaway-website-11597798

STRONG


AND


STABLE
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Clara Croshhudge - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 13:42:10 EST ID:9A7aZnFi No.173372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173320
If the entire leave campaign wasn't built on lies from the start, you might have had a point here.
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Shit Sobberham - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:15:52 EST ID:37nD/Zrr No.173373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173372
when, precisely, have "lies" invalidated the result of /any/ other election?
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Alice Clungersteg - Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:47:19 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.173375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173373
A referendum is not an election. Nor is it legally binding...
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Ian Tillingstone - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 18:31:01 EST ID:5eT0woC/ No.173405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>173295
Quick question: is there any way for an average American or other 420channer to exploit the situation financially? Preferably by exploiting Britain.
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Hedda Pattingson - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 19:21:50 EST ID:1KcWuZvS No.173407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173405
Wait for their currency, homes and business assets to plummet in price once the no deal reality sets in, then buy it all up
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Isabella Dillershit - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 19:29:36 EST ID:5eT0woC/ No.173408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173319
>American voters are not especially incompetent. American politicians are not especially willing to sell out their country for personal gain.
Both of these are ridiculously false.
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Charlotte Grandman - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 20:19:07 EST ID:O8WXy4i+ No.173411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173408
Lol keep telling yourself that while Western democracies keep electing further and further right wing politicians beholden to foreign donors.

It doesn't matter if you're in the us, England, Germany, Poland, Italy, etc.
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Isabella Dillershit - Sun, 06 Jan 2019 20:30:49 EST ID:5eT0woC/ No.173413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173411
My point being Americans are by far the worst in these things. I think the only people who are actively more shit in these categories are Russians. American voters are especially incompetent and ill informed and our politicians are particularly prone to being treasonous whores. Case in point the Israel boycott thread, or anything having to do with Saudis. I will never forgive that moment when our (or rather Republican) Congressman were publicly kissing the ass of a foreign national who was British CEO of BP because the questioners were "too mean" to him after fucking up our entire seaboard while stealing our oil. We should nationalize our oil supplies and kick the fuckers out especially the British ESPECIALLY Piers Morgan and tell all the Zionists and Salafists to go fuck themselves.
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Beatrice Greenbury - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 09:30:11 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.173419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173413
>anything having to do with Saudi
Americans aren't unique in this. Everyone wants to be buddies with the Saudis.
Https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/mar/09/national-disgrace-fury-over-100m-aid-deal-between-uk-and-saudi-arabia

>Case in point the Israel boycott thread
France has had strong law around this for years. A national law.
https://m.jpost.com/Diaspora/Exclusive-PayPal-shuts-account-of-French-BDS-organization-539922

Please do yourself a favor and look into this. You don't need to be so self loathing, lol.
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Graham Smallgold - Mon, 07 Jan 2019 19:27:25 EST ID:pQ/k/1Tw No.173448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>173419
It isn't self loathing. It is disgust and contempt for what the fat slobs of modern America turned the place into. I have disgust and contempt for the modern anti-American who is perversely usually the biggest jingoist asshole. Modern america has nothing to do with America is the biggest problem. It is now basically just one large open air prison/strip mall from sea to sea.
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Esther Fonkinstock - Tue, 15 Jan 2019 03:56:24 EST ID:jmTpmpZP No.173618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Britain should end the Brexit by a tank duel with the EU. *glove slap*
>Challenger Two, the best, ya betta blooming well believe dat
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Henry Worthingville - Wed, 16 Jan 2019 03:53:52 EST ID:gc82Q47U No.173655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Theresa May is now a dead duck UK PM ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643
Strewth!


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