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Dietary Strategies by Geoffrey Zakarian - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:20:58 EST ID:RmoUZmWO No.154321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hello /nom/,

In this day and age we have more information available to us regarding nutrition, food quality/safety, and so forth. And we are all doing what we can to try to have a healthy diet, with other life-factors considered of course. I am curious what are some dietary strategies you guys employ, and maybe discuss the motivations for them.

I have a few things I am playing around with to see how it works for me or doesn't:

>no soda
>no red meat (except special/rare occasions, like a friend makes a special dish or you get a chance to eat elk or something)
>every time you eat food, consider the time/effort it would take to harvest/prepare that food. for each day/meal, do not exceed what you yourself would reasonably be able to harvest/prepare

so far these focus areas have helped me to lose some weight and start eating more nutritious meals. what do you guys do?
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Chen Kenmin - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 02:20:59 EST ID:Ico4XXhV No.154322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
out of everything I've tried intermittent fasting and limiting sugar/corn syrup has allowed me to maintain a body weight that I am satisfied with
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 09:53:00 EST ID:S9o6ie67 No.154324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For the last two or three weeks I've been vodka+orange juice every day and then eating split red lentils (I think they're called that) every second or third day when I get really hungry and I'm losing weight.
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Marco Pierre White - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:43:16 EST ID:ucYLGzQP No.154326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>154322
that's what i've been doing (i think), but i'm also making sure I watch what I am eating, calorie amount as well, like say if I eat a whole bag of crisps thats 800 calories in total, i usually try to skip out dinner or eat something light like have some fruit or veggies. I used to be 250-255lbs, my heaviest after almost a decade of depression overcoming me; but I have been slowly climbing out of it but currently around 239 and my motivation is basically I'm tired of being fat. I used to be fit, and probably more attractive, and I'm lonely as fuck so I decided to do something about it.
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Beau MacMillian - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 18:08:09 EST ID:sT4Lm5zZ No.154327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154324
This has been working for me too with regards to weight loss, minus the split red lentils though.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 18:59:11 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154326
I calorie counted but I found that combining elements of other diets made it easier to do. The reason those are said to work is that if nothing else changes they usually do, however I locked that shit down.

Skipping processed carbs and eating more veg for example, eating in a narrower window made it easier to avoid snacking. Not stocking food I don't plan on eating. When you've got 1600 calories in a day, a 200g bag of crisps that will not help your vitamin or mineral or protein or fibre intake and will be gone from your stomach in 45 minutes just sucks.

I make sure I've got enough protein, fibre, vitamins and stuff and I don't go too far under my goal. As my weight fell I exercised more. Get fit. You can sustain the same weight loss longer and it'll make you look better when you're done. I think I shot for a bit below my basal metabolic rate at my target weight so even if I was ill I was running a deificit but then I hit the gym, walked, didn't just sleep in bed all day and BAM you're losing 2 pounds a week.

Now I'm at my target I am not afraid to treat myself a bit, but I do make sure I've got time to catch up after, or sometimes I can afford to lose a pound or two in advance in the case of sustained extra food/booze. It's a bit crazy to be honest but I like the health benefits and not hating my image in the mirror too much.
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Masaharu Morimoto - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 02:59:18 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154324
so you stopped eating food and are just drinking liquor instead of eating

fucking a dude welcome to /hooch/
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Rashma Beharry - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:03:07 EST ID:Lvlq2m3I No.154332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154324
stop eating start drinking. now this is a diet strategy i can get the fuck behind.
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John Besh - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:25:46 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154332
Is that so you die or so goblin boy dies?
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Masaharu Morimoto - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 16:17:01 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm to skinny because my stomach is fucked up from years of alcohol and drug abuse

I literally never get hungry unless I'm 8/10 wasted, so I often forget to eat for a day or two then get really confused as to why I have no energy
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Michel Roux - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:21:29 EST ID:Fe0+n5iZ No.154341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154324
>Vodka+orange

Fucking noob, vodka is better with cranberry. Then I again I just straight drink that shit now a days.
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Sidoine Benoît - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 04:43:25 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154341
>vodka cran

what are you some kind of girl?

the only acceptable booze juice combo is Gin+Grapefruit juice

but realistically booze should only be drank with water on the side
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Alain Ducasse - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:41:15 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154346
You are literally dying from booze and you're worried that if someone drinks something sweet their masculinity is in question. Get your shit together.
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Sidoine Benoît - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:20:43 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154347
when the fuck was I dieing from booze?

are you my doctor because I don't have health insurance and CANNOT pay for this visit
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Andrew Zimmern - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:14:06 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154351
I come from a civilised country. Healthcare is a right for now (our leaders are currently selling us to you septic savages though) and I would warn you before taking money.

You made it clear you're incapable of taking care of yourself in an earlier post. You also get fucking annihilated every couple of days.

>I'm too skinny because my stomach is fucked up from years of alcohol and drug abuse

>I literally never get hungry unless I'm 8/10 wasted, so I often forget to eat for a day or two then get really confused as to why I have no energy

If you stopped drinking you'd need to learn to eat and then taper to avoid lethal delirium tremens at this point I expect. It just seems a bit rich you'd judge someone else's drinking habits.

Don't get me wrong, salty dogs are the tits though.
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Vincent la Chapelle - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:00:19 EST ID:PgNpeO4J No.154356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154346
My man, gin + grapefruit is my jam and I have literally never heard of anyone else who makes it

internet fistbump
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Andrew Zimmern - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:13:50 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154356
Oh your people are out there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salty_dog_(cocktail)
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Andrew Zimmern - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 13:14:48 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154359
Oops, also this, it's right up your street. Gin loves sour things if you ask me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_(cocktail)
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Guy Fieri - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 03:28:50 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154353
Well shit nig, you ID stalking me now as well as trying to provide your damned commie healthcare

in all seriousness I'm doing pretty well these days in regards to the drinking but the damage on my body is noticeable especially where appetite is concerned

I do appreciate the concern though maynge

love to ya
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François Vatel - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 04:57:46 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154365
The holiday year ends at the start of April and I had over a week left this commie shit is awesome. I'm not going anywhere, just spending a week doing little things like sorting my phone and bank accounts, clearing rubbish out to make space, arranging shit with friends and stuff but I'm also spending a LOT of time sitting around on these boards in between that. Reading a few posts up in the thread is easy.

Reminder to everyone: It is pancake day today. You especially. Make some savoury topped ones so you can get some good nutrition in.
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Guy Fieri - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:54:38 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154366
You know I was gonna take your advice and make some dank savory topped pancakes but apparently since I deposited my check after 3pm yesterday my bank is withholding my funds until tomorrow morning, so I can't afford to eat today. Man I'm glad I live in America where the system does so much to help me out.
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Troisgros family - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 20:10:20 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154376
do it a day late as a valentines day present. Love yourself even if your RNG is Gay "I'm a fucking piece of shit who fucked up scrambled eggs" Fiery.
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Jamie Oliver - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 06:22:28 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154378
Ain't nothing wrong with a little trip to flavor town

but yeah I work at an Italian restaurant and put in a 12 hour kitchen shift today so I ate plenty of food while working
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Adolphe Gérard - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:04:19 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154401
The problem is when you need to be at EAT 24 EGGS and you get taken to Flavourtown everyone loses. The eggs don't get eaten because you bulked them up with peppers and chilli and your stupid pop star washup can't handle it.
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Antoine Beauvilliers - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 03:03:38 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154402
alright nig we were having a civilized conversation about my poor life choices until now where are you getting this I can't handle peppers and chilis bullshit?

also wtf who needs to eat 24 eggs?

man you lost me
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Alton Brown - Fri, 16 Feb 2018 05:45:37 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154406
Smash Mouth needed to eat 24 eggs to save the children. This is not even old internet. He got Guy Fieri to prepare the eggs but he added so much shit that even with a fat ringer that about 13 or 14 eggs got eaten.

TLR fucking goons did it.
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Pierre de Lune - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:47:46 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.154420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've encountered so many people that way overthink diet strategies. So many people fall for these fad diets and think there's some secret formula to losing weight.

It's simple!! Put out more than you take it. For most people that need to lose weight it's extremely simple. Limit your portion sizes (after building this discipline up, it's really easy), watch sugar and watch carbs. The last part isn't that important unless you're eating tons of garlic bread or something. Some carbs are good. But sugar has gotta go. Like op said, no soda. That shit is just going straight to your gut and is bad for your body in many ways.

You don't need to do some ridiculous boot camp, you don't even need to start exercising more (though it would help you get in better shape) you just have to eat with better discipline and restraint.

Tbh though, I'd say work on eating first, then work on getting in shape after you've lost some weight. Suddenly starting to exercise more makes you a lot more hungry and you can easily negate that workout in a post workout snack. Just focus on a calorie deficit.
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Rashma Beharry - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 01:48:12 EST ID:rRveWixC No.154426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154407

what the fuck are you rambling about
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Marco Pierre White - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:29:06 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154426
Smash Mouth didn't eat 24 eggs. It's not rocket science. Guy Fieri is to blame. If you can't be arsed to put "24 eggs smashmouth" into google and see all the relevant links on the entirety of the front page including videos then why should I bother explaining in more detail than this? It doesn't matter.
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Maestro Martino - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:46:02 EST ID:GcOHz4Pl No.154428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154420
God this is so wrong. Calorie counting is the basis of dietary propaganda. My best friend is a dietician. He'd tell you to eat less processed food, less meat and dairy. Drink more water too, and less alcohol.
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Elijah Joy - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 20:58:10 EST ID:rRveWixC No.154429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154428

>The energy required to heat one cubic centimeter of water one degree Celsius is propaganda

>My hippie friend thinks so too
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Antoine Parmentier - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 00:42:28 EST ID:yU/V4d0T No.154432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154427
but you seem really upset about a guy not eating eggs
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:52:43 EST ID:jTIRmWiQ No.154433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>154331
don't you mean /drank/
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Elijah Joy - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:46:37 EST ID:e/xOWTlt No.154434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154432
I am both simulteaneously upset and elated. It was an awful disappointing end to the saga but it befits a worthless washup. However actually explaining directly is wasted effort on an uncaring board. On the other hand you're finding my exasperation of interest so I'm happy to express that Guy Fieri has awful hair and is to blame.
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Pierre Gagnaire - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:24:13 EST ID:VglTymMP No.154435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154433

>the pedo food goblin is also a frogposter

Of fucking course.
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Antoine Parmentier - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:25:36 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.154436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154428
You and your best friend are retards if you think that taking in less than you put out is propaganda. That is literally simply how the body and weight loss works.
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Elijah Joy - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:52:20 EST ID:rRveWixC No.154437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154433

pedofatfrog might have just actually surpassed stimlion in terms of shitpost faggotry
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Michel Bras - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:32:24 EST ID:hKKhZQH8 No.154441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154433
Why, dude why.. now we have to make a new name for you. Pedo food goblin frog posting fagit.
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Michel Guérard - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 12:31:33 EST ID:bnDwnI8O No.154442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154441
Food froblin?
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Alexandre Étienne Choron - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:19:51 EST ID:gwccFEMl No.154443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>154428
>Calorie counting is the basis of dietary propaganda
lol what. calorie counting isn't the be all end all of dietary considerations,but it certainly has it's place, especially if your goal is weight loss (which is what the guy you're replying to is talking about). i lost 50 lbs myself and have kept it off for 13 years now, mostly because of counting calories. i still eat junk/fast food and stuff, but i watch how much. i probably don't have the healthiest arteries or kidneys (i smoke and drink a lot too), but despite having a non-ideal metabolism i manage to maintain a normal weight because of calorie counting.

tl;dr - if your goal is simply to lose weight, calorie counting absolutely matters.


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