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Isreal In the Context of US Geopolitcal Strategy by Walter Semmerlock - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:53:37 EST ID:DrVKG+XY No.41006 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I heard the US Defense secretary say that Israel is the cornerstone of US security policy in the Middle East. This got me thinking about changinf this, hypothetically of course.

>The US gives $3.8 billlion in military aid a year.
>Israel did not assist in the Afghanistan campaign.
>Conapiritards postulate that Israel indermines US security interests constantly
>inb4 the US is controlled by Jews and ZOG.

I thought why not give $3.8 billion to Greece instead of Israel we can actually base operations from there. We know they wont undermind us and they could use the money to keep up their military. I know the Hellenic AF is nowhere near as good as the IDF but with US advisors they could quickly pick up the slack. Especially with Russia and Ukraine feuding.

>its just an idea
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Rebecca Sebberlit - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:19:14 EST ID:Yqo5vGzQ No.41036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>41035

Really the best solution I see for something long term is the US giving full aid to a Kurdish state and raising it from the ground up. If you want longterm results give a longterm effort. I've been saying the US should be focusing on building Kurdistan as a recognized nation since before it was cool /hipster off because basically you have Iran who hate the US because we've been strangling their economy for the last decade and assassinating their not-retarded leaders, Turkey are backstabbers who we trust too much and Iraq is currently a barrel of monkeys.

The Kurds despite having no internationally recognized and stable State have a long history as a culture in the region and extensive small scale military experience. They may be operating that on a shoestring budget but with training and arms that could change quickly. The only problem would be them doing something like deciding to invade Turkish airspace with new aircraft and dropping bombs on Istanbul which would probably be tempting for some Kurds. That would be sticky diplomatically but AT LEAST IT WOULDNT BE AS BAD AS A CERTAIN GREATEST ALLY CARPET BOMBING FIVE COUNTRIES OVER THE SPAN OF SIX DAYS ~PREEMPTIVELY~ AND CALLING IT A VICTORY INSTEAD OF UNPROVOKED TERRORISM
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Emma Pickdock - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:48:41 EST ID:M/mxHLOm No.41038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>41035
>Also I think US foreign policy strategists are genuinely worried that Israel will throw a massive tantrum and do something incredibly stupid in retaliation if we stop spoonfeeding them. Like that overworked stressed out couple with the single kid who is a spoiled autistic nutcase capable of truly psychotic behavior, but that's your legacy.

Someone needs to take a risk, I know they will commit acts of terrorism if we cut off aid to them. Theyll use those suitcase Nukes they smuggled out of Russia in NATO countries and blame whomever, they see fit. Israel is there but we dont need to continue to fund them. Choosing between the Muslilms and Jews is like choosing between Syphillis and Gonorrhea.

>>41036
>The Kurds despite having no internationally recognized and stable State have a long history as a culture in the region and extensive small scale military experience. They may be operating that on a shoestring budget but with training and arms that could change quickly. The only problem would be them doing something like deciding to invade Turkish airspace with new aircraft and dropping bombs on Istanbul which would probably be tempting for some Kurds. That would be sticky diplomatically but AT LEAST IT WOULDNT BE AS BAD AS A CERTAIN GREATEST ALLY CARPET BOMBING FIVE COUNTRIES OVER THE SPAN OF SIX DAYS ~PREEMPTIVELY~ AND CALLING IT A VICTORY INSTEAD OF UNPROVOKED TERRORISM

The US needs to get out of the region all together, beween Canada and the US we have plenty of oil. No aid for anybody over there, we can send USSOCOM to fight the cartels with the Mexican Army. Between Saudi Arabia,Turkey, and Iran there is a balance of power in the Middle East. Israel has nukes and its rumored the Saudis do as well so there can be a detente in that region.
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Rebecca Sebberlit - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:48:20 EST ID:Yqo5vGzQ No.41041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>41038

>Someone needs to take a risk, I know they will commit acts of terrorism if we cut off aid to them. Theyll use those suitcase Nukes they smuggled out of Russia in NATO countries and blame whomever, they see fit. Israel is there but we dont need to continue to fund them. Choosing between the Muslilms and Jews is like choosing between Syphillis and Gonorrhea.

>The US needs to get out of the region all together, beween Canada and the US we have plenty of oil. No aid for anybody over there, we can send USSOCOM to fight the cartels with the Mexican Army. Between Saudi Arabia,Turkey, and Iran there is a balance of power in the Middle East. Israel has nukes and its rumored the Saudis do as well so there can be a detente in that region.

Optimally neutrality is best but getting out of the Middle East once you're in is such an imbroglio it is kind of like trying to escape a Jigsaw trap. You'll probably lose a limb or eyeball or something and might not make it. It's not called the Graveyard of Empires for nothing.

Also tasty tasty resources. There's more than just oil in the region. The largest lithium deposit in the world, massive gold deposits, literally priceless archaeological finds that have yet to be discovered which may alter everything we currently assume to be true about human history, thus the finding of them is of vital importance because the finder largely decides what gets to be said about the finding. Where'd the capstone to the Pyramid of Giza go for example? Probably sitting in some Saudi underground vault since the rise of the first Caliphate. The completely empty 'tomb'? Rumor has it that was actually a slot for the Ark of the Covenant, which was not a magical mystery box that let you talk to God but essentially just a giant battery to... whatever the Pyramid was.

The Saudis definitely have nukes, the problem is they just buy their way through everything. Certain things can't be bought, at least reliably. Look at their army. It's shit, but at least their gear is top of the line. Anyway, relevance, yes there is a balance of power, Turkey and Iran are both militarily capable and the Saudis are an economic powerhouse. Israel wants to …
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Ernest Brendlewell - Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:53:58 EST ID:MCmtWAYq No.41047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>41041

>Also tasty tasty resources. There's more than just oil in the region. The largest lithium deposit in the world, massive gold deposits,

You can trade for those we dont need to have forces on the ground toncontrol those resources.

>literally priceless archaeological finds that have yet to be discovered which may alter everything we currently assume to be true about human history, thus the finding of them is of vital importance because the finder largely decides what gets to be said about the finding. Where'd the capstone to the Pyramid of Giza go for example? Probably sitting in some Saudi underground vault since the rise of the first Caliphate. The completely empty 'tomb'? Rumor has it that was actually a slot for the Ark of the Covenant, which was not a magical mystery box that let you talk to God but essentially just a giant battery to... whatever the Pyramid was.

I know the military found alot of artifacts in Iraq and Afghanistan however the best way to find those things is not by launching an invasion bit by sending archaelogists
even the Nazis knew better than to invade Nepal and other areas where they sent their archaeologists and scientists.

You can conduct military operations under the guise of civilian activities.

>The Saudis definitely have nukes, the problem is they just buy their way through everything. Certain things can't be bought, at least reliably. Look at their army. It's shit, but at least their gear is top of the line. Anyway, relevance, yes there is a balance of power, Turkey and Iran are both militarily capable and the Saudis are an economic powerhouse. Israel wants to attack all of them though and all of them want to attack Israel.
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Martha Hogglechetch - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 01:49:05 EST ID:Yqo5vGzQ No.41051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>41047

>You can trade for those we dont need to have forces on the ground toncontrol those resources.

Seriously? Ok this is economics 101 but if you control a resource directly, it's yours. You don't have to pay taxes on it, trade for it, buy it or whatever. Just defend it. If you don't have direct control over it then you have to acquire it either by force, trade, money, theft or some method and THEN defend it. Control of a resource is ownership of it.


>literally priceless archaeological finds that have yet to be discovered which may alter everything we currently assume to be true about human history, thus the finding of them is of vital importance because the finder largely decides what gets to be said about the finding. Where'd the capstone to the Pyramid of Giza go for example? Probably sitting in some Saudi underground vault since the rise of the first Caliphate. The completely empty 'tomb'? Rumor has it that was actually a slot for the Ark of the Covenant, which was not a magical mystery box that let you talk to God but essentially just a giant battery to... whatever the Pyramid was.

>I know the military found alot of artifacts in Iraq and Afghanistan however the best way to find those things is not by launching an invasion bit by sending archaelogists

Invasions, military operations, are more likely to destroy artifacts yes but expeditions under the auspices of science can be hijacked by the regional government for their own benefit. Military control of a region needs to be established first before archaeological benefits can go to military interests.

>even the Nazis knew better than to invade Nepal and other areas where they sent their archaeologists and scientists.
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ragnar benson by Charles Honningway - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:47:12 EST ID:NPRV0Zlk No.40999 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you guys think of the guy's bibliogaphry, my obvious questions are:

>Are the guy's advices accurate

>Will buying his stuff make you look too suspicious to be worth it.

>Is this legal in the UK? (Know it is in the US, but we don't have a first amendment here)
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Rebecca Sebberlit - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:30:20 EST ID:Yqo5vGzQ No.41034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40999


>Will buying his stuff make you look too suspicious to be worth it.

Depends on where you're buying from.

>Is this legal in the UK?

Ahahahahahahahahhahaha

i2p and archives are your friend.


Fuck this country by Emma Fevingdock - Sat, 24 May 2014 11:47:49 EST ID:aKFg31Io No.38179 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Where can I locate anti-government militias online for recruitment?
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Caroline Lighthood - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:11:59 EST ID:baMwPxcx No.39714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>39713

To a country where the people actually use their guns to resist the government
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Phyllis Breddlepuck - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:06:44 EST ID:BTceH415 No.40982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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"Where can I locate anti-government militias online for recruitment? " you say ?

>online

online is the domain of the US government, notably the NSA/DHS, weather or not their ip tracing, spoofing and other spy-gasm methods that are used, is/are legal is a moot point; they have the tech, they have the sanctioned authority, therefore, just as water flows downhill, and day and night chase each other, so too does government gather information using any and all methods it has available to it.

>anti-government militias

anti government militias, be they american, or of other nationalities, typically tend to default to 'low/no tech is best tech', as a way to swiftly get off-grid.


.....Therefore, looking for anti-government militias, online, is like looking through endless amounts of forest and ocean, hoping to find a previously unknown space elevator to the moon.

you want to find a militia, your best bet is to hit the streets, talking to people who have friends of friends of friends..... even so, expect a cold welcome and much suspicions of you being an undercover cop, a psycho cowboy, a goofy snitch, or all of the above.
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Molly Semblechug - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 19:48:36 EST ID:KxwWQaPP No.40984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can move to that commune that's built around a weapons factory where carrying an AR-15 is required by 'law'.

There's still tons of anti gov militias around, mainly Michigan, Idaho and plenty in Oregon. In fact every state prob has one. I was eating in an Oregon cafe once and these rednecks covered in duck dynasty head to toe camo stood up and said 'ITS ILLEGAL TO BURN THIS SYMBOL OF FASCISM' and literally lit their money on fire in the restaurant. (apparently it's not illegal to burn currency, they're just crazy hillbillies).

But yeah, they're all Jeebus based now, or some other crazy cult.
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Thomas Guvingtidge - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:08:47 EST ID:3Jl5hHy/ No.40986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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inb4 Special Agent pencil neck gathers enough evidence on OP to put him away for 20 years.

>it maybe the FBI it maybe the ATF who knows when they finally kick in OPs door.
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Nigger Widgenure - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 19:35:23 EST ID:TokWVMnB No.40997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40986

The FBI look like a bunch of thugs themselves.


My First Moist-Nugget by Fanny Fummerdure - Mon, 13 Jul 2015 01:40:43 EST ID:6HUtI7di No.40941 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well folks, finally got my first Moist Nugget. 1928, Izhevsk factory, matching serial number on the bayonet, and about 100+ rounds of WWII-era .308 ammo. Supposedly found in an arsenal in Ukraine in the mid-90's but that's sheer hearsay. Anyway, great stuff all around for such a cheap and common little bolt action.

My only questions:
1) Best butt cushion so I don't get my shoulder bruised or dislocated?

2) Could such a weapon be used for home defense? I mean surely a .308 will kill an intruder, but something tells me it''ll blow away the bad guy, the wall behind him, the wall of my neighbor's apartment, and possibly my neighbor. Something tells me it'd be a terrible method of self-defense.

3) Is it true it's still being used in combat, and if so, why considering modern warfare now mainly consists of assault rifles and submachine guns? I mean don't get me wrong it's a nice guy but it still seems oddly out-of-place (but, then again, the AK-47 was built in the 1940's and is still everywhere).... Supposedly in the past 15 years it's been found in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Libya, and Chechnya.

4) Any nice cheap upgrades (scopes and whatnot) that anyone would recommend? Best products with which to clean it?

Gotta admit this is my first non-handgun (and I've only fired a shotgun once) so this is absolutely new to me.
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Frederick Debblekat - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:03:38 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>40963
>>40962
>>40964
>>40967

Ok guys since I keep repeating "learn to cradle the rifle and you'll be fine" let me explain.

Bruises like this shouldn't happen even with a Mosin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weBuYmnpg38

Here's a decent vid on finding natural point of aim, an important concept in shooting a rifle.

This one is mostly for shooting prone, the best way to make accurate shots at long range, with a Mosin you don't have a bipod so a sandbag, dirt heap, backpack (train with that if you like) or other elevated surface can substitute.
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Frederick Debblekat - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:27:17 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40969

If you're still getting bruises with good form AND a buttpad do see a doctor about a potential health problem. You may be bruising too easily due to a nutrient deficiency. You might also have almost no muscle mass, the muscles in your chest, arm and shoulder should be able to repeatedly absorb the force of recoil.

You will know you've got form right when the recoil isn't a problem.

>pic related, your sling's most important job
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Frederick Debblekat - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:29:18 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>40970

dun goofed
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Cornelius Gebblelock - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:50:29 EST ID:7Hwk0nrL No.40980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40969

I'm a us army veteran, I know how to fire a rifle properly.
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Frederick Debblekat - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:10:35 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40980

HA, but you got bruised Army boy. Never too experienced to learn.

Tell me how to shoot a rifle.


A subject is required when mmmm...fuck by cool 420chan poster - ah man i love those weed drugs yes - Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:31:19 EST ID:BRooAHZW No.40372 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is YOUR favorite weapon and why ISN'T it the nunchuks?

no really, wtf is wrong with you. supreme weapon here
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cool 420chan poster - ah man i love those weed drugs yes - Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:25:23 EST ID:BRooAHZW No.40376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40374
No you're objectively wrong.
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James Gamblechock - Tue, 24 Mar 2015 01:22:16 EST ID:ZfiCQAHw No.40379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the sjambok
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Faggy Diffingfuck - Tue, 24 Mar 2015 02:00:53 EST ID:T1Em3iEx No.40381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go ahead and delete this thread. OP has had his fun and hopefully is in bed by now.
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cool 420chan poster - ah man i love those weed drugs yes - Tue, 24 Mar 2015 07:14:15 EST ID:BRooAHZW No.40390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40381
Prove me wrong. Go ahead. I'll wait.
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Phyllis Breddlepuck - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:16:24 EST ID:BTceH415 No.40976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Gun>sword> nunchucks

nunchucks are inferior to swords because they require dynamic object rebound (ie, the offensive/ in-flight stick of the nunchucks, connected to a bendy rope or chain) to be taken into account during use. The sword, conversely, does not have any real bendy-ness like a chain-based weapon does.

likewise, guns are superior to swords (and nunchucks) because they are a projectile weapon, firing a small projectile which is typically moving magnitudes faster than human reaction times are capable of.


Battle Rifle by Molly Shakedale - Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:56:48 EST ID:kE0w0Tob No.36284 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to purchase a full size semiauto battle rifle but I have no idea what to get. I want to keep my budget under $1,000, I want it to be rugged and fire a full powered round (7mm and up) but be accurate. I live in a state where I can still buy pretty much any semiautomatic and I don't have any problem field stripping a semiauto.

What would you get /nra/?
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Nicholas Billingwater - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:54:54 EST ID:MmexbReH No.40901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40889

Why
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Charlotte Ferryhood - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 21:13:55 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40901

The fact that you're asking makes you such a jolly african-american I can't even tell you.
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Charlotte Ferryhood - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 23:14:28 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40903

I wish this board was more active.
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Hedda Dommlefat - Sun, 12 Jul 2015 09:46:37 EST ID:vyrdAcmC No.40933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>40904
people like you scare off anyone with half a brain
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Basil Turveyforth - Mon, 13 Jul 2015 01:03:57 EST ID:LdxiU1ob No.40940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>40933

U probab. right mang

Woe to my fruitless brainstem.


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